NR2003 Framerate question

I am having some sort of brain-fart here with the graphics settings in NR2003. My system consists of a P4 [email hidden] and Albatron ti4200 turbo 128mb. No matter what resolution I choose (have tried 1024x768, 1280x960, as-well-as 800x600), and no matter what graphics options I turn on or off (I have had EVERYTHING turned off or at the low setting) and I still get about 15fps on the back stretch at Talladega during a practice session. I have vsync off and AA at 2x. It just blows my mind that I can have everything turned off, or on the low setting (still always with 42 cars showing in the front though) and my framerate is always at around 15-20fps at Tally. (I have tried other tracks, but since Talladega was this past weekend, this is where I was testing stuff.) What am I missing?

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> > It just blows my mind that I can have everything turned off, or on the > low setting (still always with 42 cars showing in the front though) > and my framerate is always at around 15-20fps at Tally. (I have tried > other tracks, but since Talladega was this past weekend, this is where > I was testing stuff.) > > What am I missing? > >

OpenGL or d3d? Turn off the fsaa. What is the ingame ansio setting? dave henrie

don't feel bad, i have the same problem using either the Geforce Ti4600 or the FX Ulra or now even with the 9800 Pro. I have tried everything to get the FPS up in the game. I do manage to get like 80fps sitting on pit road by myself, but if I start a race at the back with only 20 cars ahead and 5 behind its down to 28 and coming through a tri-oval in the back 24 to 25fps which just sucks. I even reinstalled a new copy of Windows XP professinoal. See all my previous post about 9800 Pro problems. I do run @ 1600x1200x32 but only cause it runs the same @ all the lower resolutions as well. The Ti4600 card ran it better than this 9800 pro. and the FX card was much better in Opengl, I use D3D for the 9800, and the Ti4600.. and I use 8 on the ansio in the .ini file, none on the card and 2x on the AA,.. and none of the bottom 3 shadow options and no solar or track options. P4 2.53 1gig PC800 ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 3.2 Audigy Platinum2 latest drivers. win xp pro. "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> "doubleu" <[email hidden]> wrote in > > > > > It just blows my mind that I can have everything turned off, or on the > > low setting (still always with 42 cars showing in the front though) > > and my framerate is always at around 15-20fps at Tally. (I have tried > > other tracks, but since Talladega was this past weekend, this is where > > I was testing stuff.) > > > > What am I missing? > > > > > OpenGL or d3d? Turn off the fsaa. What is the ingame ansio setting? > dave henrie > >

Maybe try turning off "Track specular highlights" that will gain you 10-15 fps and you wont get the flicker effect :) What monitor? If you run 16x12 you likely are at 85hz refresh. Maybe go to 12x8 and a higher refresh. Turn off fast writes. Sounds like your close. Maybe try omegas driver. "mjones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > don't feel bad, i have the same problem using either > the Geforce Ti4600 or the FX Ulra or now even > with the 9800 Pro. I have tried everything to get the FPS up in the game.I > do manage to get like 80fps sitting on pit road by myself, but if I starta > race at the back with only 20 cars ahead and 5 behind its down to 28 and > coming through a tri-oval in the back 24 to 25fps which just sucks. I even > reinstalled a new copy of Windows XP professinoal. See all my previouspost

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> about 9800 Pro > problems. I do run @ 1600x1200x32 but only cause it > runs the same @ all the lower resolutions as well. > The Ti4600 card ran it better than this 9800 pro. > and the FX card was much better in Opengl, > I use D3D for the 9800, and the Ti4600.. > and I use 8 on the ansio in the .ini file, none on the card > and 2x on the AA,.. and none of the bottom 3 shadow > options and no solar or track options. > > P4 2.53 > 1gig PC800 > ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 3.2 > Audigy Platinum2 latest drivers. > win xp pro. > > "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > "doubleu" <[email hidden]> wrote in > > > > > > > > It just blows my mind that I can have everything turned off, or on the > > > low setting (still always with 42 cars showing in the front though) > > > and my framerate is always at around 15-20fps at Tally. (I have tried > > > other tracks, but since Talladega was this past weekend, this is where > > > I was testing stuff.) > > > > > > What am I missing? > > > > > > > > OpenGL or d3d? Turn off the fsaa. What is the ingame ansio setting? > > dave henrie > > > > > >

21" Trinitron I do have Track specular off. Thanks, "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:iJIka.1072$[email hidden]... > Maybe try turning off "Track specular highlights" that will gain you 10-15 > fps and you wont get the flicker effect :) What monitor? If you run16x12

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> you likely are at 85hz refresh. Maybe go to 12x8 and a higher refresh. > Turn off fast writes. Sounds like your close. > > Maybe try omegas driver. > > > "mjones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > don't feel bad, i have the same problem using either > > the Geforce Ti4600 or the FX Ulra or now even > > with the 9800 Pro. I have tried everything to get the FPS up in the

game. > I > > do manage to get like 80fps sitting on pit road by myself, but if Istart > a > > race at the back with only 20 cars ahead and 5 behind its down to 28 and > > coming through a tri-oval in the back 24 to 25fps which just sucks. Ieven

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> > reinstalled a new copy of Windows XP professinoal. See all my previous > post > > about 9800 Pro > > problems. I do run @ 1600x1200x32 but only cause it > > runs the same @ all the lower resolutions as well. > > The Ti4600 card ran it better than this 9800 pro. > > and the FX card was much better in Opengl, > > I use D3D for the 9800, and the Ti4600.. > > and I use 8 on the ansio in the .ini file, none on the card > > and 2x on the AA,.. and none of the bottom 3 shadow > > options and no solar or track options. > > > > P4 2.53 > > 1gig PC800 > > ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 3.2 > > Audigy Platinum2 latest drivers. > > win xp pro. > > > > "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > "doubleu" <[email hidden]> wrote in > > > > > > > > > > > It just blows my mind that I can have everything turned off, or on

the > > > > low setting (still always with 42 cars showing in the front though) > > > > and my framerate is always at around 15-20fps at Tally. (I havetried > > > > other tracks, but since Talladega was this past weekend, this iswhere > > > > I was testing stuff.) > > > > > > > > What am I missing? > > > > > > > > > > > OpenGL or d3d? Turn off the fsaa. What is the ingame ansiosetting?

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> > > dave henrie > > > > > > > > > > > >

holy cow, I just tried all the aforementioned settings, with little or no improvement; then went into the 'sound' options, checked 3D audio, and lowered the total sounds to '8', and now get 40-50 fps with all graphic settings on the left side set to 'high' or 'all', and everything checked on the right side except for 'steering wheel', 'solar effects' and all the 'shadows on cars: checkboxes (the last 3); 1600x1200x32 bit opengl; no FSAA settings, and that one setting on '8' in the .ini file. very strange.......... "mjones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> 21" Trinitron > I do have Track specular off. > > Thanks, > "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:iJIka.1072$[email hidden]... > > Maybe try turning off "Track specular highlights" that will gain you

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> > fps and you wont get the flicker effect :) What monitor? If you run > 16x12 > > you likely are at 85hz refresh. Maybe go to 12x8 and a higher refresh. > > Turn off fast writes. Sounds like your close. > > > > Maybe try omegas driver. > > > > > > "mjones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > don't feel bad, i have the same problem using either > > > the Geforce Ti4600 or the FX Ulra or now even > > > with the 9800 Pro. I have tried everything to get the FPS up in the > game. > > I > > > do manage to get like 80fps sitting on pit road by myself, but if I > start > > a > > > race at the back with only 20 cars ahead and 5 behind its down to 28

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> > > coming through a tri-oval in the back 24 to 25fps which just sucks. I > even > > > reinstalled a new copy of Windows XP professinoal. See all my previous > > post > > > about 9800 Pro > > > problems. I do run @ 1600x1200x32 but only cause it > > > runs the same @ all the lower resolutions as well. > > > The Ti4600 card ran it better than this 9800 pro. > > > and the FX card was much better in Opengl, > > > I use D3D for the 9800, and the Ti4600.. > > > and I use 8 on the ansio in the .ini file, none on the card > > > and 2x on the AA,.. and none of the bottom 3 shadow > > > options and no solar or track options. > > > > > > P4 2.53 > > > 1gig PC800 > > > ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 3.2 > > > Audigy Platinum2 latest drivers. > > > win xp pro. > > > > > > "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > "doubleu" <[email hidden]> wrote in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It just blows my mind that I can have everything turned off, or on > the > > > > > low setting (still always with 42 cars showing in the front

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> > > > > and my framerate is always at around 15-20fps at Tally. (I have > tried > > > > > other tracks, but since Talladega was this past weekend, this is > where > > > > > I was testing stuff.) > > > > > > > > > > What am I missing? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OpenGL or d3d? Turn off the fsaa. What is the ingame ansio > setting? > > > > dave henrie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

"mjones" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:[email hidden]: >> > >> >> > > Criminey Jones! If you find you have more vidcards than you can use, I'll take whichever one you have to throw away. All three of those stuff my GF3. :) dave henrie

What sound card are you using? Marc "doubleu" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:20030408201918.966$[email hidden]... > holy cow, I just tried all the aforementioned settings, with little or no > improvement; then went into the 'sound' options, checked 3D audio, and > lowered the total sounds to '8', and now get 40-50 fps with all graphic > settings on the left side set to 'high' or 'all', and everything checkedon > the right side except for 'steering wheel', 'solar effects' and all the > 'shadows on cars: checkboxes (the last 3); 1600x1200x32 bit opengl; noFSAA

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> settings, and that one setting on '8' in the .ini file. > > very strange.......... > > > > "mjones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > 21" Trinitron > > I do have Track specular off. > > > > Thanks, > > "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:iJIka.1072$[email hidden]... > > > Maybe try turning off "Track specular highlights" that will gain you > 10-15 > > > fps and you wont get the flicker effect :) What monitor? If you run > > 16x12 > > > you likely are at 85hz refresh. Maybe go to 12x8 and a higher

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> > > Turn off fast writes. Sounds like your close. > > > > > > Maybe try omegas driver. > > > > > > > > > "mjones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > don't feel bad, i have the same problem using either > > > > the Geforce Ti4600 or the FX Ulra or now even > > > > with the 9800 Pro. I have tried everything to get the FPS up in the > > game. > > > I > > > > do manage to get like 80fps sitting on pit road by myself, but if I > > start > > > a > > > > race at the back with only 20 cars ahead and 5 behind its down to 28 > and > > > > coming through a tri-oval in the back 24 to 25fps which just sucks.

I > > even > > > > reinstalled a new copy of Windows XP professinoal. See all myprevious

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> > > post > > > > about 9800 Pro > > > > problems. I do run @ 1600x1200x32 but only cause it > > > > runs the same @ all the lower resolutions as well. > > > > The Ti4600 card ran it better than this 9800 pro. > > > > and the FX card was much better in Opengl, > > > > I use D3D for the 9800, and the Ti4600.. > > > > and I use 8 on the ansio in the .ini file, none on the card > > > > and 2x on the AA,.. and none of the bottom 3 shadow > > > > options and no solar or track options. > > > > > > > > P4 2.53 > > > > 1gig PC800 > > > > ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 3.2 > > > > Audigy Platinum2 latest drivers. > > > > win xp pro. > > > > > > > > "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > "doubleu" <[email hidden]> wrote in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It just blows my mind that I can have everything turned off, or

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> > the > > > > > > low setting (still always with 42 cars showing in the front > though) > > > > > > and my framerate is always at around 15-20fps at Tally. (I have > > tried > > > > > > other tracks, but since Talladega was this past weekend, this is > > where > > > > > > I was testing stuff.) > > > > > > > > > > > > What am I missing? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OpenGL or d3d? Turn off the fsaa. What is the ingame ansio > > setting? > > > > > dave henrie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

I know you guys are all looking for the smoothest performance in the game, but I have not had any problem with close in racing/passing with a mid-20's fps. I am using a duron 750 processor with an Nvidea 64mb card and a crappy old wheel. Of course I am also very new to this and still pretty much suck :) -- McWhom ----------------------------------------------------------------- "mjones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... : don't feel bad, i have the same problem using either : the Geforce Ti4600 or the FX Ulra or now even : with the 9800 Pro. I have tried everything to get the FPS up in the game. I : do manage to get like 80fps sitting on pit road by myself, but if I start a : race at the back with only 20 cars ahead and 5 behind its down to 28 and : coming through a tri-oval in the back 24 to 25fps which just sucks. I even : reinstalled a new copy of Windows XP professinoal. See all my previous post : about 9800 Pro : problems. I do run @ 1600x1200x32 but only cause it : runs the same @ all the lower resolutions as well. : The Ti4600 card ran it better than this 9800 pro. : and the FX card was much better in Opengl, : I use D3D for the 9800, and the Ti4600.. : and I use 8 on the ansio in the .ini file, none on the card : and 2x on the AA,.. and none of the bottom 3 shadow : options and no solar or track options. : : P4 2.53 : 1gig PC800 : ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 3.2 : Audigy Platinum2 latest drivers. : win xp pro. : : "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message : news:[email hidden]... : > "doubleu" <[email hidden]> wrote in : > : > > : > > It just blows my mind that I can have everything turned off, or on the : > > low setting (still always with 42 cars showing in the front though) : > > and my framerate is always at around 15-20fps at Tally. (I have tried : > > other tracks, but since Talladega was this past weekend, this is where : > > I was testing stuff.) : > > : > > What am I missing? : > > : > > : > OpenGL or d3d? Turn off the fsaa. What is the ingame ansio setting? : > dave henrie : > : > : :

I'm using the onboard sound on an Abit IT7-MAX2 (non 2.0). (I'm using this for its optical out if you're wondering why.) After more testing, my frame rate drops to the low 20's when setting to 10 or 12 sounds. So, even though I have no more spotter, I'm leaving it at 8 for the time being. I need to see if I can wrestle my Santa Cruz back from my little brother to do more testing...... "Marc Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:eJVka.4257$[email hidden]...

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> What sound card are you using? > > Marc > > "doubleu" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:20030408201918.966$[email hidden]... > > holy cow, I just tried all the aforementioned settings, with little or

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> > improvement; then went into the 'sound' options, checked 3D audio, and > > lowered the total sounds to '8', and now get 40-50 fps with all graphic > > settings on the left side set to 'high' or 'all', and everything checked > on > > the right side except for 'steering wheel', 'solar effects' and all the > > 'shadows on cars: checkboxes (the last 3); 1600x1200x32 bit opengl; no > FSAA > > settings, and that one setting on '8' in the .ini file. > > > > very strange.......... > > > > > > > > "mjones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > 21" Trinitron > > > I do have Track specular off. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:iJIka.1072$[email hidden]... > > > > Maybe try turning off "Track specular highlights" that will gain you > > 10-15 > > > > fps and you wont get the flicker effect :) What monitor? If you

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> > > 16x12 > > > > you likely are at 85hz refresh. Maybe go to 12x8 and a higher > refresh. > > > > Turn off fast writes. Sounds like your close. > > > > > > > > Maybe try omegas driver. > > > > > > > > > > > > "mjones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > don't feel bad, i have the same problem using either > > > > > the Geforce Ti4600 or the FX Ulra or now even > > > > > with the 9800 Pro. I have tried everything to get the FPS up in

the > > > game. > > > > I > > > > > do manage to get like 80fps sitting on pit road by myself, but ifI > > > start > > > > a > > > > > race at the back with only 20 cars ahead and 5 behind its down to28 > > and > > > > > coming through a tri-oval in the back 24 to 25fps which justsucks.

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> I > > > even > > > > > reinstalled a new copy of Windows XP professinoal. See all my > previous > > > > post > > > > > about 9800 Pro > > > > > problems. I do run @ 1600x1200x32 but only cause it > > > > > runs the same @ all the lower resolutions as well. > > > > > The Ti4600 card ran it better than this 9800 pro. > > > > > and the FX card was much better in Opengl, > > > > > I use D3D for the 9800, and the Ti4600.. > > > > > and I use 8 on the ansio in the .ini file, none on the card > > > > > and 2x on the AA,.. and none of the bottom 3 shadow > > > > > options and no solar or track options. > > > > > > > > > > P4 2.53 > > > > > 1gig PC800 > > > > > ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 3.2 > > > > > Audigy Platinum2 latest drivers. > > > > > win xp pro. > > > > > > > > > > "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > "doubleu" <[email hidden]> wrote in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It just blows my mind that I can have everything turned off,

or > on > > > the > > > > > > > low setting (still always with 42 cars showing in the front > > though) > > > > > > > and my framerate is always at around 15-20fps at Tally. (Ihave > > > tried > > > > > > > other tracks, but since Talladega was this past weekend, thisis

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> > > where > > > > > > > I was testing stuff.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What am I missing? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OpenGL or d3d? Turn off the fsaa. What is the ingame ansio > > > setting? > > > > > > dave henrie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >