Removing DX 9.0 From Your Computer - Easy Steps!

I don't know if this has been posted here before, but I have just used this "routine" to remove DirectX 9.0 from my computer and reinstalled DirectX 8.1a. This is easy to do, and it works like a champ. Those of you who may be like me, and don't like the way many things operate on your system after (thinking you had to) installing DX 9.0 (maybe during the NR2003 installation)......can now rejoice in easily returning your system to DX 8.1 (or any version you want). I am still running Win98SE....and my system was unstable and had lots of hangs and BSOD's with DX 9.0 installed. Save these instructions, they are universal for removing any version of DX and installing any version of DX! Removing DirX from your Computer: 1. Download the version of DirX you want to install from MS or any other suitable source (or copy from a game CD if you have one). 2. Clear your c:\Windows\temp directory and copy the .exe DirX installer you've just downloaded to that directory. Leave it there for now.....go to step #3. 3. Go to Start/Run and clear the window, type in: "regedit" (omitting the quotes), hit the "enter key" on your keyboard. You will now be in the WindowsXX (any version) Registry using a "registry editor" called, "regedit." This is a little utility that automatically installs with all versions of Windows...its just fine to use it. 4. Go to "HKEY_Local_Machine/Software/Microsoft/DirectX" - this folder contains the DX version entry that DirectX uses to make sure that a current installation is an earlier DX version than the one being installed (or it won't do the installation). I don't like to "delete" any registry entry until I'm sure that it doesn't screw up my computer, so I like to "rename" things. So, right click - rename the "DirectX" folder to something like "xDirectX" and close the regedit program. ***DO NOT REBOOT YOUR COMPUTER at this time! 5. Now, go to "Start/Run" and browse to the c:\Windows\temp folder, select your Dx installer executable file and run the Dx installation routine. Now...you can reboot your computer when so prompted. 6. Back at your desktop? Confirm that the DX version you are now running is the correct one. The are several ways to do this, the easiest is to run DXDiag (from the C:\Programs\DirectX\Setup tab)....look at the version number of DX on the first tab/page. 7. If this is correct (it should show DX 8.1 if that's what you installed after removing DX 9.0 - for example), then it would be wise to return to the registry editor and remove/delete the "xDirectX" folder you created earlier completely.....but its not totally necessary (but it is a good idea). That's it, you are now back to the version DX you wanted. Hope this is helpful....... Regards, Tom Pabst

"Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:vRXla.429629$3D1.230127@sccrnsc01... > I don't know if this has been posted here before, but I have just usedthis > "routine" to remove DirectX 9.0 from my computer and reinstalled DirectX > 8.1a. This is easy to do, and it works like a champ. Those of you whomay > be like me, and don't like the way many things operate on your systemafter > (thinking you had to) installing DX 9.0 (maybe during the NR2003 > installation)......can now rejoice in easily returning your system to DX8.1 > (or any version you want). I am still running Win98SE....and my systemwas

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> unstable and had lots of hangs and BSOD's with DX 9.0 installed. > > Save these instructions, they are universal for removing any version of DX > and installing any version of DX! > > Removing DirX from your Computer: > > 1. Download the version of DirX you want to install from MS or any other > suitable source (or copy from a game CD if you have one). > > 2. Clear your c:\Windows\temp directory and copy the .exe DirX installer > you've just downloaded to that directory. Leave it there for now.....go

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> step #3. > > 3. Go to Start/Run and clear the window, type in: "regedit" (omitting the > quotes), hit the "enter key" on your keyboard. You will now be in the > WindowsXX (any version) Registry using a "registry editor" called, > "regedit." This is a little utility that automatically installs with all > versions of Windows...its just fine to use it. > > 4. Go to "HKEY_Local_Machine/Software/Microsoft/DirectX" - this folder > contains the DX version entry that DirectX uses to make sure that a

current > installation is an earlier DX version than the one being installed (or it > won't do the installation). I don't like to "delete" any registry entry > until I'm sure that it doesn't screw up my computer, so I like to "rename" > things. So, right click - rename the "DirectX" folder to something like > "xDirectX" and close the regedit program. ***DO NOT REBOOT YOUR COMPUTERat > this time! > > 5. Now, go to "Start/Run" and browse to the c:\Windows\temp folder,select > your Dx installer executable file and run the Dx installation routine. > Now...you can reboot your computer when so prompted. > > 6. Back at your desktop? Confirm that the DX version you are now running > is the correct one. The are several ways to do this, the easiest is torun > DXDiag (from the C:\Programs\DirectX\Setup tab)....look at the version > number of DX on the first tab/page. > > 7. If this is correct (it should show DX 8.1 if that's what you installed > after removing DX 9.0 - for example), then it would be wise to return tothe > registry editor and remove/delete the "xDirectX" folder you createdearlier > completely.....but its not totally necessary (but it is a good idea). > > That's it, you are now back to the version DX you wanted. > > Hope this is helpful....... > No ;) Surprisingly, it is. Cheers

Tom, You're a life saver. Ever since I installed DirectX 9.0, I was experiencing lockups just trying to double click almost any icon on my desktop. Joel Willstein -- "If you can leave black marks on a straight from the time you exit a corner till the time you brake for the next turn , then you have enough horsepower." Mark Donohue "Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:vRXla.429629$3D1.230127@sccrnsc01... > I don't know if this has been posted here before, but I have just used this > "routine" to remove DirectX 9.0 from my computer and reinstalled DirectX > 8.1a. This is easy to do, and it works like a champ. Those of you who may > be like me, and don't like the way many things operate on your system after > (thinking you had to) installing DX 9.0 (maybe during the NR2003 > installation)......can now rejoice in easily returning your system to DX 8.1 > (or any version you want). I am still running Win98SE....and my system was > unstable and had lots of hangs and BSOD's with DX 9.0 installed. > > Save these instructions, they are universal for removing any version of DX > and installing any version of DX! > > Removing DirX from your Computer: > > 1. Download the version of DirX you want to install from MS or any other > suitable source (or copy from a game CD if you have one). > > 2. Clear your c:\Windows\temp directory and copy the .exe DirX installer > you've just downloaded to that directory. Leave it there for now.....go to > step #3. > > 3. Go to Start/Run and clear the window, type in: "regedit" (omitting the > quotes), hit the "enter key" on your keyboard. You will now be in the > WindowsXX (any version) Registry using a "registry editor" called, > "regedit." This is a little utility that automatically installs with all > versions of Windows...its just fine to use it. > > 4. Go to "HKEY_Local_Machine/Software/Microsoft/DirectX" - this folder > contains the DX version entry that DirectX uses to make sure that a current > installation is an earlier DX version than the one being installed (or it > won't do the installation). I don't like to "delete" any registry entry > until I'm sure that it doesn't screw up my computer, so I like to "rename" > things. So, right click - rename the "DirectX" folder to something like > "xDirectX" and close the regedit program. ***DO NOT REBOOT YOUR COMPUTER at > this time! > > 5. Now, go to "Start/Run" and browse to the c:\Windows\temp folder, select > your Dx installer executable file and run the Dx installation routine. > Now...you can reboot your computer when so prompted. > > 6. Back at your desktop? Confirm that the DX version you are now running > is the correct one. The are several ways to do this, the easiest is to run > DXDiag (from the C:\Programs\DirectX\Setup tab)....look at the version > number of DX on the first tab/page. > > 7. If this is correct (it should show DX 8.1 if that's what you installed > after removing DX 9.0 - for example), then it would be wise to return to the > registry editor and remove/delete the "xDirectX" folder you created earlier > completely.....but its not totally necessary (but it is a good idea). > > That's it, you are now back to the version DX you wanted. > > Hope this is helpful....... > > Regards, > > Tom Pabst > >

All very well, but you won't be able to play most current games as they install (and need) DX9, e.g. Splinter Cell. Personally, I have had no problems at all with DX9. Iain "Joel A. Willstein" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Xf_la.50623$[email hidden]...

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> Tom, > > You're a life saver. Ever since I installed DirectX 9.0, I was > experiencing lockups just trying to double click almost any icon on my > desktop. > > Joel Willstein > > -- > > > "If you can leave black marks on a straight from the time you exit a

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> till the time you brake for the next turn > , then you have enough horsepower." > Mark Donohue > > > "Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:vRXla.429629$3D1.230127@sccrnsc01... > > I don't know if this has been posted here before, but I have just used > this > > "routine" to remove DirectX 9.0 from my computer and reinstalled DirectX > > 8.1a. This is easy to do, and it works like a champ. Those of you who > may > > be like me, and don't like the way many things operate on your system > after > > (thinking you had to) installing DX 9.0 (maybe during the NR2003 > > installation)......can now rejoice in easily returning your system to DX > 8.1 > > (or any version you want). I am still running Win98SE....and my system > was > > unstable and had lots of hangs and BSOD's with DX 9.0 installed. > > > > Save these instructions, they are universal for removing any version of

DX > > and installing any version of DX! > > > > Removing DirX from your Computer: > > > > 1. Download the version of DirX you want to install from MS or anyother > > suitable source (or copy from a game CD if you have one). > > > > 2. Clear your c:\Windows\temp directory and copy the .exe DirXinstaller > > you've just downloaded to that directory. Leave it there for now.....go > to > > step #3. > > > > 3. Go to Start/Run and clear the window, type in: "regedit" (omittingthe > > quotes), hit the "enter key" on your keyboard. You will now be in the > > WindowsXX (any version) Registry using a "registry editor" called, > > "regedit." This is a little utility that automatically installs withall > > versions of Windows...its just fine to use it. > > > > 4. Go to "HKEY_Local_Machine/Software/Microsoft/DirectX" - this folder > > contains the DX version entry that DirectX uses to make sure that a > current > > installation is an earlier DX version than the one being installed (orit > > won't do the installation). I don't like to "delete" any registry entry > > until I'm sure that it doesn't screw up my computer, so I like to"rename" > > things. So, right click - rename the "DirectX" folder to something like > > "xDirectX" and close the regedit program. ***DO NOT REBOOT YOURCOMPUTER

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> at > > this time! > > > > 5. Now, go to "Start/Run" and browse to the c:\Windows\temp folder, > select > > your Dx installer executable file and run the Dx installation routine. > > Now...you can reboot your computer when so prompted. > > > > 6. Back at your desktop? Confirm that the DX version you are now

running > > is the correct one. The are several ways to do this, the easiest is to > run > > DXDiag (from the C:\Programs\DirectX\Setup tab)....look at the version > > number of DX on the first tab/page. > > > > 7. If this is correct (it should show DX 8.1 if that's what youinstalled

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> > after removing DX 9.0 - for example), then it would be wise to return to > the > > registry editor and remove/delete the "xDirectX" folder you created > earlier > > completely.....but its not totally necessary (but it is a good idea). > > > > That's it, you are now back to the version DX you wanted. > > > > Hope this is helpful....... > > > > Regards, > > > > Tom Pabst > > > > > >

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Have you tried 9.0a. Maybe that would help. Todd "Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:vRXla.429629$3D1.230127@sccrnsc01... > I don't know if this has been posted here before, but I have just usedthis > "routine" to remove DirectX 9.0 from my computer and reinstalled DirectX > 8.1a. This is easy to do, and it works like a champ. Those of you whomay > be like me, and don't like the way many things operate on your systemafter > (thinking you had to) installing DX 9.0 (maybe during the NR2003 > installation)......can now rejoice in easily returning your system to DX8.1 > (or any version you want). I am still running Win98SE....and my systemwas

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> unstable and had lots of hangs and BSOD's with DX 9.0 installed. > > Save these instructions, they are universal for removing any version of DX > and installing any version of DX! > > Removing DirX from your Computer: > > 1. Download the version of DirX you want to install from MS or any other > suitable source (or copy from a game CD if you have one). > > 2. Clear your c:\Windows\temp directory and copy the .exe DirX installer > you've just downloaded to that directory. Leave it there for now.....go

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> step #3. > > 3. Go to Start/Run and clear the window, type in: "regedit" (omitting the > quotes), hit the "enter key" on your keyboard. You will now be in the > WindowsXX (any version) Registry using a "registry editor" called, > "regedit." This is a little utility that automatically installs with all > versions of Windows...its just fine to use it. > > 4. Go to "HKEY_Local_Machine/Software/Microsoft/DirectX" - this folder > contains the DX version entry that DirectX uses to make sure that a

current > installation is an earlier DX version than the one being installed (or it > won't do the installation). I don't like to "delete" any registry entry > until I'm sure that it doesn't screw up my computer, so I like to "rename" > things. So, right click - rename the "DirectX" folder to something like > "xDirectX" and close the regedit program. ***DO NOT REBOOT YOUR COMPUTERat > this time! > > 5. Now, go to "Start/Run" and browse to the c:\Windows\temp folder,select > your Dx installer executable file and run the Dx installation routine. > Now...you can reboot your computer when so prompted. > > 6. Back at your desktop? Confirm that the DX version you are now running > is the correct one. The are several ways to do this, the easiest is torun > DXDiag (from the C:\Programs\DirectX\Setup tab)....look at the version > number of DX on the first tab/page. > > 7. If this is correct (it should show DX 8.1 if that's what you installed > after removing DX 9.0 - for example), then it would be wise to return tothe > registry editor and remove/delete the "xDirectX" folder you createdearlier

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> completely.....but its not totally necessary (but it is a good idea). > > That's it, you are now back to the version DX you wanted. > > Hope this is helpful....... > > Regards, > > Tom Pabst > >

In article <vRXla.429629$3D1.230127@sccrnsc01>, "Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> writes: >Save these instructions, they are universal for removing any version of DX >and installing any version of DX! > >Removing DirX from your Computer: Saved - thanks! How do you have time to figure this stuff out??? Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank:-1.680 MonsterRank: +334.169 N2002 Rank:+17.59 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <[email hidden]>, "Iain Mackenzie" <[email hidden]> writes: >All very well, but you won't be able to play most current games as they >install (and need) DX9, e.g. Splinter Cell. Personally, I have had no >problems at all with DX9. >Iain Must just be a certain subset of games, or I don't have enough current ones. I'm still running 8.1, and don't see a need to change yet. Of course, the newest game I have is N2003... Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank:-1.680 MonsterRank: +334.169 N2002 Rank:+17.59 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

"Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:vRXla.429629$3D1.230127@sccrnsc01:

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> Hope this is helpful....... > > Regards, > > Tom Pabst > >

Sounds like you have found a real way to acheive a difficult solution. But rather than go back...I would tend to try and find out why the new DX was causing problems and work to correct those problems on my system. After all, there were tons of users with problems when we upgraded to dx3. Then dx5 then dx6 7 8 and 9. If we fall back to a lesser codec...we are just putting off future problems... Besides it's daylight savings time, shouldn't we be springing ahead? :) dave(oh btw, I've already printed and archived this!)henrie

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> Sounds like you have found a real way to acheive a difficult solution. > But rather than go back...I would tend to try and find out why the new DX > was causing problems and work to correct those problems on my system. > After all, there were tons of users with problems when we upgraded to > dx3. Then dx5 then dx6 7 8 and 9. If we fall back to a lesser codec...we > are just putting off future problems... > Besides it's daylight savings time, shouldn't we be springing ahead? > > :) > > dave(oh btw, I've already printed and archived this!)henrie >

Says he who is still running 98se! MRSisson (I know - do as you say, not as you do, right?? ;) ) -- LOAD "GPL",8,1 RUN

Or you could use this: http://www.dxbuster.de/index_e.html later, jeff "Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:vRXla.429629$3D1.230127@sccrnsc01:

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> I don't know if this has been posted here before, but I have just used > this "routine" to remove DirectX 9.0 from my computer and reinstalled > DirectX 8.1a. This is easy to do, and it works like a champ. Those of > you who may be like me, and don't like the way many things operate on > your system after (thinking you had to) installing DX 9.0 (maybe during > the NR2003 installation)......can now rejoice in easily returning your > system to DX 8.1 (or any version you want). I am still running > Win98SE....and my system was unstable and had lots of hangs and BSOD's > with DX 9.0 installed. > > Save these instructions, they are universal for removing any version of > DX and installing any version of DX! > > Removing DirX from your Computer: > > 1. Download the version of DirX you want to install from MS or any > other suitable source (or copy from a game CD if you have one). > > 2. Clear your c:\Windows\temp directory and copy the .exe DirX > installer you've just downloaded to that directory. Leave it there for > now.....go to step #3. > > 3. Go to Start/Run and clear the window, type in: "regedit" (omitting > the quotes), hit the "enter key" on your keyboard. You will now be in > the WindowsXX (any version) Registry using a "registry editor" called, > "regedit." This is a little utility that automatically installs with > all versions of Windows...its just fine to use it. > > 4. Go to "HKEY_Local_Machine/Software/Microsoft/DirectX" - this folder > contains the DX version entry that DirectX uses to make sure that a > current installation is an earlier DX version than the one being > installed (or it won't do the installation). I don't like to "delete" > any registry entry until I'm sure that it doesn't screw up my computer, > so I like to "rename" things. So, right click - rename the "DirectX" > folder to something like "xDirectX" and close the regedit program. > ***DO NOT REBOOT YOUR COMPUTER at this time! > > 5. Now, go to "Start/Run" and browse to the c:\Windows\temp folder, > select your Dx installer executable file and run the Dx installation > routine. Now...you can reboot your computer when so prompted. > > 6. Back at your desktop? Confirm that the DX version you are now > running is the correct one. The are several ways to do this, the > easiest is to run DXDiag (from the C:\Programs\DirectX\Setup > tab)....look at the version number of DX on the first tab/page. > > 7. If this is correct (it should show DX 8.1 if that's what you > installed after removing DX 9.0 - for example), then it would be wise to > return to the registry editor and remove/delete the "xDirectX" folder > you created earlier completely.....but its not totally necessary (but it > is a good idea). > > That's it, you are now back to the version DX you wanted. > > Hope this is helpful....... > > Regards, > > Tom Pabst > >

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In article <b79hs6$c9i1g$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > No > > ;) > > Surprisingly, it is. Cheers > You quoted his entire post to add 5 words and a smiley? Come on... -- __________________________ Todd Walker http://twalker.d2g.com __________________________

In article <MPG.19027de98fb5144e989686@nntp>, Michael R Sisson <[email hidden]> writes: >> dave(oh btw, I've already printed and archived this!)henrie >> > >Says he who is still running 98se! Hey, I'm still running 98se as well...<g> Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank:-1.680 MonsterRank: +334.169 N2002 Rank:+17.59 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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> In article <b79hs6$c9i1g$[email hidden]>, > [email hidden] says... > > No > > > > ;) > > > > Surprisingly, it is. Cheers > > > > You quoted his entire post to add 5 words and a smiley? Come on... >

That was the point. I thought it was just another long winded Tom Pabst self appreciation post. I'll do better next time. Honest.

Thanks to Tom & Jeff :) Saved & archived until the day Dx9 start doing silly jumps.. /matt

Pretty small deal in the scheme of life. "Todd Walker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> In article <b79hs6$c9i1g$[email hidden]>, > [email hidden] says... > > No > > > > ;) > > > > Surprisingly, it is. Cheers > > > > You quoted his entire post to add 5 words and a smiley? Come on... > > -- > __________________________ > Todd Walker > http://twalker.d2g.com > __________________________

Gosh RT..... Sorry to disappoint you about not "spouting off my greatness" this time. I'll try to fix that in my next post. -:) TP PS: "Thinking........Once falsely tagged with some less-than-enduring reputation, does it ever go away?" Not in the minds of some people, apparently. "redTed" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:b79hs6$c9i1g$[email hidden]...

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> > "Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:vRXla.429629$3D1.230127@sccrnsc01... > > I don't know if this has been posted here before, but I have just used > this > > "routine" to remove DirectX 9.0 from my computer and reinstalled DirectX > > 8.1a. This is easy to do, and it works like a champ. Those of you who > may > > be like me, and don't like the way many things operate on your system > after > > (thinking you had to) installing DX 9.0 (maybe during the NR2003 > > installation)......can now rejoice in easily returning your system to DX > 8.1 > > (or any version you want). I am still running Win98SE....and my system > was > > unstable and had lots of hangs and BSOD's with DX 9.0 installed. > > > > Save these instructions, they are universal for removing any version of

DX > > and installing any version of DX! > > > > Removing DirX from your Computer: > > > > 1. Download the version of DirX you want to install from MS or anyother > > suitable source (or copy from a game CD if you have one). > > > > 2. Clear your c:\Windows\temp directory and copy the .exe DirXinstaller > > you've just downloaded to that directory. Leave it there for now.....go > to > > step #3. > > > > 3. Go to Start/Run and clear the window, type in: "regedit" (omittingthe > > quotes), hit the "enter key" on your keyboard. You will now be in the > > WindowsXX (any version) Registry using a "registry editor" called, > > "regedit." This is a little utility that automatically installs withall > > versions of Windows...its just fine to use it. > > > > 4. Go to "HKEY_Local_Machine/Software/Microsoft/DirectX" - this folder > > contains the DX version entry that DirectX uses to make sure that a > current > > installation is an earlier DX version than the one being installed (orit > > won't do the installation). I don't like to "delete" any registry entry > > until I'm sure that it doesn't screw up my computer, so I like to"rename" > > things. So, right click - rename the "DirectX" folder to something like > > "xDirectX" and close the regedit program. ***DO NOT REBOOT YOURCOMPUTER

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> at > > this time! > > > > 5. Now, go to "Start/Run" and browse to the c:\Windows\temp folder, > select > > your Dx installer executable file and run the Dx installation routine. > > Now...you can reboot your computer when so prompted. > > > > 6. Back at your desktop? Confirm that the DX version you are now

running > > is the correct one. The are several ways to do this, the easiest is to > run > > DXDiag (from the C:\Programs\DirectX\Setup tab)....look at the version > > number of DX on the first tab/page. > > > > 7. If this is correct (it should show DX 8.1 if that's what youinstalled

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> > after removing DX 9.0 - for example), then it would be wise to return to > the > > registry editor and remove/delete the "xDirectX" folder you created > earlier > > completely.....but its not totally necessary (but it is a good idea). > > > > That's it, you are now back to the version DX you wanted. > > > > Hope this is helpful....... > > > > No > > ;) > > Surprisingly, it is. Cheers > >

Tom Pabst wrote: > > PS: "Thinking........Once falsely tagged with some less-than-enduring > reputation, does it ever go away?" Not in the minds of some people, > apparently. As my fav Norwegian songwriter Henning Kvitnes once wrote, the only thing you'll own forever is a bad reputation, but falsely Tom .....? :-) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

Glad it helped you out, Joel. I didn't have it that bad, I just wanted to return to DX8.1a so I could continue to use 3DMark2001SE benchmarking (it wouldn't run with DX9.0a installed). I think if I either had WindowsXP installed, or an ATI video card (which uses some DX9.0 components) I would have stayed with it. But, the fact that 3DMark2001SE wouldn't run.....and I am using a GF4ti4600 which doesn't use any DX9.0 components.....I opted to go back to DX8.1a for a while (still running Win98SE....best gaming ops-sys, IMHO....so far). Also, DX9.0 whacked about 10% off my sim frame rates (as measured with FRAPS in F1-2002 and NR2003). Not a big deal, granted....but hey, those precious little FPS points came at considerable expense and effort (at tweak-city). By the way Joel.....you don't say what video card, operating system, etc., but I understand if you use an Nvidia card, and do not have a DX9.0 certified driver (which is the 41.xx's and higher I believe), some people are reporting similar problems as you said you had......just thought I'd mention that in case there was some reason you really needed DX9.0 to be installed. Take care.... Tom "Joel A. Willstein" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Xf_la.50623$[email hidden]...

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> Tom, > > You're a life saver. Ever since I installed DirectX 9.0, I was > experiencing lockups just trying to double click almost any icon on my > desktop. > > Joel Willstein > > -- > > > "If you can leave black marks on a straight from the time you exit a

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> till the time you brake for the next turn > , then you have enough horsepower." > Mark Donohue > > > "Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:vRXla.429629$3D1.230127@sccrnsc01... > > I don't know if this has been posted here before, but I have just used > this > > "routine" to remove DirectX 9.0 from my computer and reinstalled DirectX > > 8.1a. This is easy to do, and it works like a champ. Those of you who > may > > be like me, and don't like the way many things operate on your system > after > > (thinking you had to) installing DX 9.0 (maybe during the NR2003 > > installation)......can now rejoice in easily returning your system to DX > 8.1 > > (or any version you want). I am still running Win98SE....and my system > was > > unstable and had lots of hangs and BSOD's with DX 9.0 installed. > > > > Save these instructions, they are universal for removing any version of

DX > > and installing any version of DX! > > > > Removing DirX from your Computer: > > > > 1. Download the version of DirX you want to install from MS or anyother > > suitable source (or copy from a game CD if you have one). > > > > 2. Clear your c:\Windows\temp directory and copy the .exe DirXinstaller > > you've just downloaded to that directory. Leave it there for now.....go > to > > step #3. > > > > 3. Go to Start/Run and clear the window, type in: "regedit" (omittingthe > > quotes), hit the "enter key" on your keyboard. You will now be in the > > WindowsXX (any version) Registry using a "registry editor" called, > > "regedit." This is a little utility that automatically installs withall > > versions of Windows...its just fine to use it. > > > > 4. Go to "HKEY_Local_Machine/Software/Microsoft/DirectX" - this folder > > contains the DX version entry that DirectX uses to make sure that a > current > > installation is an earlier DX version than the one being installed (orit > > won't do the installation). I don't like to "delete" any registry entry > > until I'm sure that it doesn't screw up my computer, so I like to"rename" > > things. So, right click - rename the "DirectX" folder to something like > > "xDirectX" and close the regedit program. ***DO NOT REBOOT YOURCOMPUTER

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> at > > this time! > > > > 5. Now, go to "Start/Run" and browse to the c:\Windows\temp folder, > select > > your Dx installer executable file and run the Dx installation routine. > > Now...you can reboot your computer when so prompted. > > > > 6. Back at your desktop? Confirm that the DX version you are now

running > > is the correct one. The are several ways to do this, the easiest is to > run > > DXDiag (from the C:\Programs\DirectX\Setup tab)....look at the version > > number of DX on the first tab/page. > > > > 7. If this is correct (it should show DX 8.1 if that's what youinstalled

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> > after removing DX 9.0 - for example), then it would be wise to return to > the > > registry editor and remove/delete the "xDirectX" folder you created > earlier > > completely.....but its not totally necessary (but it is a good idea). > > > > That's it, you are now back to the version DX you wanted. > > > > Hope this is helpful....... > > > > Regards, > > > > Tom Pabst > > > > > >

Ian... Not meaning to dispute you, but I don't know of any "games" that will run in Win98SE (which is all of the ones currently on the market) that will not run with DX8.1a installed. Perhaps you are speaking from experience.....and not rumor. If that is the case, I suspect something else is keeping your game from running......it shouldn't be required to have DX9.0 installed (except to take advantage of some graphics software in the game, but that only is applicable to the ATI cards, since no Nvidia card uses DX9.0 functions). I could be wrong about this....but I just have not heard of any games that won't run........from checking all the graphics card/game forums lately. TP "Iain Mackenzie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> All very well, but you won't be able to play most current games as they > install (and need) DX9, e.g. Splinter Cell. Personally, I have had no > problems at all with DX9. > Iain > > "Joel A. Willstein" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Xf_la.50623$[email hidden]... > > Tom, > > > > You're a life saver. Ever since I installed DirectX 9.0, I was > > experiencing lockups just trying to double click almost any icon on my > > desktop. > > > > Joel Willstein > > > > -- > > > > > > "If you can leave black marks on a straight from the time you exit a > corner > > till the time you brake for the next turn > > , then you have enough horsepower." > > Mark Donohue > > > > > > "Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:vRXla.429629$3D1.230127@sccrnsc01... > > > I don't know if this has been posted here before, but I have just used > > this > > > "routine" to remove DirectX 9.0 from my computer and reinstalled

DirectX > > > 8.1a. This is easy to do, and it works like a champ. Those of youwho > > may > > > be like me, and don't like the way many things operate on your system > > after > > > (thinking you had to) installing DX 9.0 (maybe during the NR2003 > > > installation)......can now rejoice in easily returning your system toDX > > 8.1 > > > (or any version you want). I am still running Win98SE....and mysystem > > was > > > unstable and had lots of hangs and BSOD's with DX 9.0 installed. > > > > > > Save these instructions, they are universal for removing any versionof

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> DX > > > and installing any version of DX! > > > > > > Removing DirX from your Computer: > > > > > > 1. Download the version of DirX you want to install from MS or any > other > > > suitable source (or copy from a game CD if you have one). > > > > > > 2. Clear your c:\Windows\temp directory and copy the .exe DirX > installer > > > you've just downloaded to that directory. Leave it there for

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> > to > > > step #3. > > > > > > 3. Go to Start/Run and clear the window, type in: "regedit" (omitting > the > > > quotes), hit the "enter key" on your keyboard. You will now be in the > > > WindowsXX (any version) Registry using a "registry editor" called, > > > "regedit." This is a little utility that automatically installs with > all > > > versions of Windows...its just fine to use it. > > > > > > 4. Go to "HKEY_Local_Machine/Software/Microsoft/DirectX" - this

folder > > > contains the DX version entry that DirectX uses to make sure that a > > current > > > installation is an earlier DX version than the one being installed (or > it > > > won't do the installation). I don't like to "delete" any registryentry > > > until I'm sure that it doesn't screw up my computer, so I like to > "rename" > > > things. So, right click - rename the "DirectX" folder to somethinglike

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> > > "xDirectX" and close the regedit program. ***DO NOT REBOOT YOUR > COMPUTER > > at > > > this time! > > > > > > 5. Now, go to "Start/Run" and browse to the c:\Windows\temp folder, > > select > > > your Dx installer executable file and run the Dx installation routine. > > > Now...you can reboot your computer when so prompted. > > > > > > 6. Back at your desktop? Confirm that the DX version you are now > running > > > is the correct one. The are several ways to do this, the easiest is

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> > run > > > DXDiag (from the C:\Programs\DirectX\Setup tab)....look at the version > > > number of DX on the first tab/page. > > > > > > 7. If this is correct (it should show DX 8.1 if that's what you > installed > > > after removing DX 9.0 - for example), then it would be wise to return

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> > the > > > registry editor and remove/delete the "xDirectX" folder you created > > earlier > > > completely.....but its not totally necessary (but it is a good idea). > > > > > > That's it, you are now back to the version DX you wanted. > > > > > > Hope this is helpful....... > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Tom Pabst > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- > http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! > -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =-----

LOL....Eldred.... I didn't figure it out! I was chatting with a guy in a graphics card tech Forum......and we were screwing around with one of those DOS based "DX Uninstall programs"......which neither of us could manage to get to work right.....and we came up with this "stupid but it works" thing! It was really his idea.....I was just a willing "guinea pig" to try it! I do think if you could manage to tap into the beta group for DX.......you'd find all kinds of things that can be done with it......that don't get made public by MS. One I know you can do (but don't know how to do it....yet)....is to "mix" versions of DX so you can discard the .dll's that don't work for you, and keep the ones that do! In other words, you can sort of "cook up your own recipe" of DX version on your computer! That would be cool! But, thanks for thinking I would be smart enough to come up with this thing on my own accord! I'm not, however.......LOL.... Regards, Tom "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <vRXla.429629$3D1.230127@sccrnsc01>, "Tom Pabst"<[email hidden]> > writes: > > >Save these instructions, they are universal for removing any version ofDX

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> >and installing any version of DX! > > > >Removing DirX from your Computer: > > Saved - thanks! How do you have time to figure this stuff out??? > > Eldred > -- > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPLRank:-1.680 > MonsterRank: +334.169 > N2002 Rank:+17.59 > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats

you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Well, I'll do that Dave when I'm forced to run DX9.0 (for some reason). But right now, that's not the case and my system ran better on DX8.1a (so did the sims I run). Aren't you still using Win98SE? Is this "the kettle calling the pot black?" LOL...... TP "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> "Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote in > news:vRXla.429629$3D1.230127@sccrnsc01: > > > > Hope this is helpful....... > > > > Regards, > > > > Tom Pabst > > > > > > Sounds like you have found a real way to acheive a difficult solution. > But rather than go back...I would tend to try and find out why the new DX > was causing problems and work to correct those problems on my system. > After all, there were tons of users with problems when we upgraded to > dx3. Then dx5 then dx6 7 8 and 9. If we fall back to a lesser codec...we > are just putting off future problems... > Besides it's daylight savings time, shouldn't we be springing ahead? > > :) > > dave(oh btw, I've already printed and archived this!)henrie

Tom, I'm also running Win98se on my system, while the computer I just built for my son runs XP professional. Here's my systems specs: Asus A7V 333 Mother Board, board flashed to lastest Bios and latest VIA 4in1 drivers AMD XP 2000+ X-Tacy Ti4 4400 drivers: 43.45 512 MB of DDR SDRAM pc2700 Win98se Joel I just can't convience myself or my wife that I need to spend another $150 for XP again. Too bad once you buy it, you can't use it on all your computers like you could with 98.That's the main reason why I'm still running Win98se. -- "If you can leave black marks on a straight from the time you exit a corner till the time you brake for the next turn , then you have enough horsepower." Mark Donohue "Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:oTZma.492496$S_4.544064@rwcrnsc53... > Glad it helped you out, Joel. > > I didn't have it that bad, I just wanted to return to DX8.1a so I could > continue to use 3DMark2001SE benchmarking (it wouldn't run with DX9.0a > installed). I think if I either had WindowsXP installed, or an ATI video > card (which uses some DX9.0 components) I would have stayed with it. But, > the fact that 3DMark2001SE wouldn't run.....and I am using a GF4ti4600 which > doesn't use any DX9.0 components.....I opted to go back to DX8.1a for a > while (still running Win98SE....best gaming ops-sys, IMHO....so far). Also, > DX9.0 whacked about 10% off my sim frame rates (as measured with FRAPS in > F1-2002 and NR2003). Not a big deal, granted....but hey, those precious > little FPS points came at considerable expense and effort (at tweak-city). > > By the way Joel.....you don't say what video card, operating system, etc., > but I understand if you use an Nvidia card, and do not have a DX9.0 > certified driver (which is the 41.xx's and higher I believe), some people > are reporting similar problems as you said you had......just thought I'd > mention that in case there was some reason you really needed DX9.0 to be > installed. > > Take care.... > > Tom > > > > "Joel A. Willstein" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Xf_la.50623$[email hidden]... > > Tom, > > > > You're a life saver. Ever since I installed DirectX 9.0, I was > > experiencing lockups just trying to double click almost any icon on my > > desktop. > > > > Joel Willstein > > > > -- > > > > > > "If you can leave black marks on a straight from the time you exit a > corner > > till the time you brake for the next turn > > , then you have enough horsepower." > > Mark Donohue > > > > > > "Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:vRXla.429629$3D1.230127@sccrnsc01... > > > I don't know if this has been posted here before, but I have just used > > this > > > "routine" to remove DirectX 9.0 from my computer and reinstalled DirectX > > > 8.1a. This is easy to do, and it works like a champ. Those of you who > > may > > > be like me, and don't like the way many things operate on your system > > after > > > (thinking you had to) installing DX 9.0 (maybe during the NR2003 > > > installation)......can now rejoice in easily returning your system to DX > > 8.1 > > > (or any version you want). I am still running Win98SE....and my system > > was > > > unstable and had lots of hangs and BSOD's with DX 9.0 installed. > > > > > > Save these instructions, they are universal for removing any version of > DX > > > and installing any version of DX! > > > > > > Removing DirX from your Computer: > > > > > > 1. Download the version of DirX you want to install from MS or any > other > > > suitable source (or copy from a game CD if you have one). > > > > > > 2. Clear your c:\Windows\temp directory and copy the .exe DirX > installer > > > you've just downloaded to that directory. Leave it there for now.....go > > to > > > step #3. > > > > > > 3. Go to Start/Run and clear the window, type in: "regedit" (omitting > the > > > quotes), hit the "enter key" on your keyboard. You will now be in the > > > WindowsXX (any version) Registry using a "registry editor" called, > > > "regedit." This is a little utility that automatically installs with > all > > > versions of Windows...its just fine to use it. > > > > > > 4. Go to "HKEY_Local_Machine/Software/Microsoft/DirectX" - this folder > > > contains the DX version entry that DirectX uses to make sure that a > > current > > > installation is an earlier DX version than the one being installed (or > it > > > won't do the installation). I don't like to "delete" any registry entry > > > until I'm sure that it doesn't screw up my computer, so I like to > "rename" > > > things. So, right click - rename the "DirectX" folder to something like > > > "xDirectX" and close the regedit program. ***DO NOT REBOOT YOUR > COMPUTER > > at > > > this time! > > > > > > 5. Now, go to "Start/Run" and browse to the c:\Windows\temp folder, > > select > > > your Dx installer executable file and run the Dx installation routine. > > > Now...you can reboot your computer when so prompted. > > > > > > 6. Back at your desktop? Confirm that the DX version you are now > running > > > is the correct one. The are several ways to do this, the easiest is to > > run > > > DXDiag (from the C:\Programs\DirectX\Setup tab)....look at the version > > > number of DX on the first tab/page. > > > > > > 7. If this is correct (it should show DX 8.1 if that's what you > installed > > > after removing DX 9.0 - for example), then it would be wise to return to > > the > > > registry editor and remove/delete the "xDirectX" folder you created > > earlier > > > completely.....but its not totally necessary (but it is a good idea). > > > > > > That's it, you are now back to the version DX you wanted. > > > > > > Hope this is helpful....... > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Tom Pabst > > > > > > > > > > > >

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> > Aren't you still using Win98SE? Is this "the kettle calling the pot > black?" LOL...... > > TP >

yup! SE not some old fashioned out of date OS like Win98!!! dave henrie

"Tom Pabst" yup! SE not some old fashioned out of date OS like Win98!!! dave henrie

Strange, My system is screaming with dx9a , and runs 3dmark 2001se just fine. Athlon XP2400+ ( overclocked to 2600+) ATI 9700 Pro Very pleased with the peformance. Don Burnette Tom Pabst wrote:

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> Glad it helped you out, Joel. > > I didn't have it that bad, I just wanted to return to DX8.1a so I > could continue to use 3DMark2001SE benchmarking (it wouldn't run with > DX9.0a installed). I think if I either had WindowsXP installed, or > an ATI video card (which uses some DX9.0 components) I would have > stayed with it. But, the fact that 3DMark2001SE wouldn't run.....and > I am using a GF4ti4600 which doesn't use any DX9.0 components.....I > opted to go back to DX8.1a for a while (still running Win98SE....best > gaming ops-sys, IMHO....so far). Also, DX9.0 whacked about 10% off > my sim frame rates (as measured with FRAPS in F1-2002 and NR2003). > Not a big deal, granted....but hey, those precious little FPS points > came at considerable expense and effort (at tweak-city). > > By the way Joel.....you don't say what video card, operating system, > etc., but I understand if you use an Nvidia card, and do not have a > DX9.0 certified driver (which is the 41.xx's and higher I believe), > some people are reporting similar problems as you said you > had......just thought I'd mention that in case there was some reason > you really needed DX9.0 to be installed. > > Take care.... > > Tom > > > > "Joel A. Willstein" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Xf_la.50623$[email hidden]... >> Tom, >> >> You're a life saver. Ever since I installed DirectX 9.0, I was >> experiencing lockups just trying to double click almost any icon on >> my desktop. >> >> Joel Willstein >> >> -- >> >> >> "If you can leave black marks on a straight from the time you exit a >> corner till the time you brake for the next turn >> , then you have enough horsepower." >> Mark Donohue >> >> >> "Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:vRXla.429629$3D1.230127@sccrnsc01... >>> I don't know if this has been posted here before, but I have just >>> used this "routine" to remove DirectX 9.0 from my computer and >>> reinstalled DirectX >>> 8.1a. This is easy to do, and it works like a champ. Those of you >>> who may be like me, and don't like the way many things operate on >>> your system after (thinking you had to) installing DX 9.0 (maybe >>> during the NR2003 installation)......can now rejoice in easily >>> returning your system to DX 8.1 (or any version you want). I am >>> still running Win98SE....and my system was unstable and had lots of >>> hangs and BSOD's with DX 9.0 installed. >>> >>> Save these instructions, they are universal for removing any >>> version of DX and installing any version of DX! >>> >>> Removing DirX from your Computer: >>> >>> 1. Download the version of DirX you want to install from MS or any >>> other suitable source (or copy from a game CD if you have one). >>> >>> 2. Clear your c:\Windows\temp directory and copy the .exe DirX >>> installer you've just downloaded to that directory. Leave it there >>> for now.....go to step #3. >>> >>> 3. Go to Start/Run and clear the window, type in: "regedit" >>> (omitting the quotes), hit the "enter key" on your keyboard. You >>> will now be in the WindowsXX (any version) Registry using a >>> "registry editor" called, "regedit." This is a little utility that >>> automatically installs with all versions of Windows...its just fine >>> to use it. >>> >>> 4. Go to "HKEY_Local_Machine/Software/Microsoft/DirectX" - this >>> folder contains the DX version entry that DirectX uses to make sure >>> that a current installation is an earlier DX version than the one >>> being installed (or it won't do the installation). I don't like to >>> "delete" any registry entry until I'm sure that it doesn't screw up >>> my computer, so I like to "rename" things. So, right click - >>> rename the "DirectX" folder to something like "xDirectX" and close >>> the regedit program. ***DO NOT REBOOT YOUR COMPUTER at this time! >>> >>> 5. Now, go to "Start/Run" and browse to the c:\Windows\temp >>> folder, select your Dx installer executable file and run the Dx >>> installation routine. Now...you can reboot your computer when so >>> prompted. >>> >>> 6. Back at your desktop? Confirm that the DX version you are now >>> running is the correct one. The are several ways to do this, the >>> easiest is to run DXDiag (from the C:\Programs\DirectX\Setup >>> tab)....look at the version number of DX on the first tab/page. >>> >>> 7. If this is correct (it should show DX 8.1 if that's what you >>> installed after removing DX 9.0 - for example), then it would be >>> wise to return to the registry editor and remove/delete the >>> "xDirectX" folder you created earlier completely.....but its not >>> totally necessary (but it is a good idea). >>> >>> That's it, you are now back to the version DX you wanted. >>> >>> Hope this is helpful....... >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Tom Pabst

> I'm also running Win98se on my system, while the computer I just built >for my son runs XP professional. Here's my systems specs: >Asus A7V 333 Mother Board, board flashed to lastest Bios and latest VIA 4in1 >drivers Where did you get your BIOs flash from? Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank:-1.680 MonsterRank: +334.169 N2002 Rank:+17.59 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Eldred, From the Asus site. Joel Willstein -- "If you can leave black marks on a straight from the time you exit a corner till the time you brake for the next turn , then you have enough horsepower." Mark Donohue "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > I'm also running Win98se on my system, while the computer I just built > >for my son runs XP professional. Here's my systems specs: > >Asus A7V 333 Mother Board, board flashed to lastest Bios and latest VIA 4in1 > >drivers > > Where did you get your BIOs flash from? > > Eldred > -- > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPLRank:-1.680 > MonsterRank: +334.169 > N2002 Rank:+17.59 > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

"Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:YLZma.492439$S_4.543771@rwcrnsc53...

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> Gosh RT..... > > Sorry to disappoint you about not "spouting off my greatness" this time. > I'll try to fix that in my next post. > > -:) > > TP > > PS: "Thinking........Once falsely tagged with some less-than-enduring > reputation, does it ever go away?" Not in the minds of some people, > apparently. >

Not disappointed at all, TB. Surprised and delighted. So much so, that I think I may alter my whole approach to this newsgroup and some of the regs who I have had "disagreements" with in the past. I might even send a personal message of apology to JS and DE in the hope that one day I will be accepted and loved by everyone here ;) Seriously, that DX removal info was very helpful.

oooops. Should have been TP, not TB.. Soz