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OT: Kato's death, related to his manipulation?

9 posts by 8 people · 22 Apr 2003 12:57 UTC - 23 Apr 2003 12:55 UTC

Luke Phillips 22 Apr 2003 12:57 UTC#70093
I was just reading on the motogp site that Kato died from a "brain stem infraction". Me not being a medical expert, are wondering if this could have been caused by the horrifying way he was moved off the track?
"Luke Phillips" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:K_apa.6964$[email hidden]... > I was just reading on the motogp site that Kato died from a "brain stem > infraction". Me not being a medical expert, are wondering if this couldhave > been caused by the horrifying way he was moved off the track? > It sure didn't help. Those guys could give lessons on how not to handle a motorcycle accident. Kato had a slim chance at best with the damage he had to his upper cervical spine. Even if he survived, chances are he would be on a respirator for life and paralyzed from the neck down.
"Stephen F." <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3ea54608$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (11 lines)> > "Luke Phillips" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:K_apa.6964$[email hidden]... > > I was just reading on the motogp site that Kato died from a "brain stem > > infraction". Me not being a medical expert, are wondering if this could > have > > been caused by the horrifying way he was moved off the track? > > > > It sure didn't help. Those guys could give lessons on how not to handle a > motorcycle accident. Kato had a slim chance at best with the damage he
had > to his upper cervical spine. Even if he survived, chances are he would beon > a respirator for life and paralyzed from the neck down. I didnt see the incident - but common sense would suggest you dont MOVE the guy until a doctor is present - and then only under his strick guidence! Doug
"Doug Ellison" wrote: > I didnt see the incident - but common sense would suggest you dont MOVEthe > guy until a doctor is present - and then only under his strick guidence! Typically we don't give praise where it is due, like at Brazil after Alonso's accident. To the casual watcher he had hurt his leg - which proved to be the case. Yet they took the necessary precautions and immobilised him so he could be thoroughly checked out. Brazil gets some stick for its GP organisation at times but this was very professional IMHO. Cheers Tony
Not trying to be "sick" but, anyone care to give a general description of just how the track personnel handled the incident? I, for one, didn't see it. db "Luke Phillips" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:K_apa.6964$[email hidden]... > I was just reading on the motogp site that Kato died from a "brain stem > infraction". Me not being a medical expert, are wondering if this couldhave > been caused by the horrifying way he was moved off the track? > >
Milhouse 22 Apr 2003 22:39 UTC↳ reply to D.B.#70118
Seconded...I didn't even hear of it until he'd already passed on (no Speed channel in the dorms) and had no idea it'd been handled poorly until reading this thread. Milhouse "db" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (18 lines)> Not trying to be "sick" but, anyone care to give a general description of > just how the track personnel handled the incident? I, for one, didn't see > it. > > > db > > > "Luke Phillips" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:K_apa.6964$[email hidden]... > > I was just reading on the motogp site that Kato died from a "brain stem > > infraction". Me not being a medical expert, are wondering if this could > have > > been caused by the horrifying way he was moved off the track? > > > > > >
They basically just grabbed him off the track, tossed him onto a stretcher and hauled ass out of the way, trying to clear the track as quickly as possible. Having had personal experience of being manhandled by track safety workers when I was busted up, it was painful to watch, and obviously done without any concern for spinal cord injury. SB "Milhouse" <iowncalculus*removepants*@cox*toreply*.net> wrote in message news:b84gap$76s$[email hidden]... > Seconded...I didn't even hear of it until he'd already passed on (no Speed > channel in the dorms) and had no idea it'd been handled poorly untilreading
Quoted text (7 lines)> this thread. > > Milhouse > > "db" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Not trying to be "sick" but, anyone care to give a general description
of > > just how the track personnel handled the incident? I, for one, didn'tsee
Quoted text (9 lines)> > it. > > > > > > db > > > > > > "Luke Phillips" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:K_apa.6964$[email hidden]... > > > I was just reading on the motogp site that Kato died from a "brain
stem > > > infraction". Me not being a medical expert, are wondering if thiscould
Quoted text (8 lines)> > have > > > been caused by the horrifying way he was moved off the track? > > > > > > > > > > > >
I just cringed upon hearing it. I doubt they were the outright cause, but that is NOT the way to handle that. If you have an injured driver...continuing the race is SECONDARY. The other guys will gladly slow down, if only because they've either been there or know they might be there eventually... What track was this at? Remind me never to race there (like it'll ever be a problem but I can dream, heh) Milhouse "Steve Blankenship" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > They basically just grabbed him off the track, tossed him onto a stretcher > and hauled ass out of the way, trying to clear the track as quickly as > possible. Having had personal experience of being manhandled by track > safety workers when I was busted up, it was painful to watch, andobviously
Quoted text (7 lines)> done without any concern for spinal cord injury. > > SB > > "Milhouse" <iowncalculus*removepants*@cox*toreply*.net> wrote in message > news:b84gap$76s$[email hidden]... > > Seconded...I didn't even hear of it until he'd already passed on (no
Speed
Quoted text (34 lines)> > channel in the dorms) and had no idea it'd been handled poorly until > reading > > this thread. > > > > Milhouse > > > > "db" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Not trying to be "sick" but, anyone care to give a general description > of > > > just how the track personnel handled the incident? I, for one, didn't > see > > > it. > > > > > > > > > db > > > > > > > > > "Luke Phillips" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:K_apa.6964$[email hidden]... > > > > I was just reading on the motogp site that Kato died from a "brain > stem > > > > infraction". Me not being a medical expert, are wondering if this > could > > > have > > > > been caused by the horrifying way he was moved off the track? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
A.M.Tronic 23 Apr 2003 12:55 UTC↳ reply to D.B.#70138
They basically picked him up and tossed him onto a stretcher like a sack of potatoes. He bounced when his body hit the stretcher. I found it amazing that even an untrained cornerworker would do that much less the 2 or 3 that were working the accident. It really scared me to watch how they were handling him, for a moment I thought that it was KR JR as he was not shown on the leaderboard in his previous position. On Tue, 22 Apr 2003 15:05:46 -0500, "db" <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (17 lines)>Not trying to be "sick" but, anyone care to give a general description of >just how the track personnel handled the incident? I, for one, didn't see >it. > > >db > > >"Luke Phillips" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:K_apa.6964$[email hidden]... >> I was just reading on the motogp site that Kato died from a "brain stem >> infraction". Me not being a medical expert, are wondering if this could >have >> been caused by the horrifying way he was moved off the track? >> >> >

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