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GPL/Audigy 2 upgrade problems

11 posts by 7 people · 01 May 2003 17:15 UTC - 04 May 2003 21:05 UTC

ChrisG27 01 May 2003 17:15 UTC#69475
Just installed a new Audigy 2. Now when I play GPL I get lots of stuttering and freeze frames. This happens a lot when there are lots of cars on the track. Upgraded from SB live which worked fine (then why the F**K did you upgrade). Any ideas on getting this running? Chris ps. I'm running 98se
Did you reinstall the SBA2 in the same slot as yer previous card? It sounds like an IRQ conflict, but before you start manually re-assigning IRQs, you might try moving the card to another slot. Not the one next to the AGP slot, but try the one below that. "ChrisG27 >" <<[email hidden]> wrote in message news:bDcsa.59407$[email hidden]... > Just installed a new Audigy 2. Now when I play GPL I get lots ofstuttering
Quoted text (10 lines)> and freeze frames. This happens a lot when there are lots of cars on the > track. Upgraded from SB live which worked fine (then why the F**K did you > upgrade). Any ideas on getting this running? > > Chris > > ps. I'm running 98se > > >
Achim 02 May 2003 10:54 UTC↳ reply to ChrisG27#69322
On Thu, 01 May 2003 17:15:51 +0000 wrote: > Just installed a new Audigy 2. Now when I play GPL I get lots of stuttering > and freeze frames. This happens a lot when there are lots of cars on the > track. Upgraded from SB live which worked fine (then why the F**K did you > upgrade). Any ideas on getting this running? Have you checked for interrupt or other ressource conflicts? The A2 worked fine with GPL here under WinME - just to tell you there's not an inherent problem between the two. -- Achim ** Mail sent to this address is automatically deleted **
"Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:q0ssa.77911$[email hidden]: > Did you reinstall the SBA2 in the same slot as yer previous card? It > sounds like an IRQ conflict, but before you start manually > re-assigning IRQs, you might try moving the card to another slot. Not > the one next to the AGP slot, but try the one below that. Back in the good ol days of DOS, somebody told me to put the sound card and video card as far apart as possible. I've pretty much stuck to that ever since. As Steve said, you don't want the two biggest hogs of your PCI bus fighting each other for access. dh
Achim: Yes me too. Both work fine together here. Dave: Usually the "higher" (closer to the AGP slot) the slot, the lower the IRQ, which is good. Back in the day, adjacent slots shared an IRQ. Nowadays, tho, the shared IRQs may be several slots apart. Your mobo docu will usually show you which. If you've lost the docu, you can do it empirically, by moving the card around and doing a partial boot (up to--but not including--the dreaded msg. "Starting Windows"). One of the boot screens (it helps to disable the Windoze logo in msdos.sys) will show a list of PCI devices and which IRQs they're using. Worst case: into the BIOS and manually assign IRQs (not for the faint of heart). "Achim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Thu, 01 May 2003 17:15:51 +0000 wrote: > > > Just installed a new Audigy 2. Now when I play GPL I get lots ofstuttering > > and freeze frames. This happens a lot when there are lots of cars on the > > track. Upgraded from SB live which worked fine (then why the F**K didyou
Quoted text (11 lines)> > upgrade). Any ideas on getting this running? > > Have you checked for interrupt or other ressource conflicts? The A2 worked > fine with GPL here under WinME - just to tell you there's not an inherent > problem between the two. > > -- > Achim > > ** Mail sent to this address is automatically deleted ** >
I had exactly the same problem under 98se, and the only way I found to fix it was to reduce hardware acceleration in advanced audio properties to basic. Karl "ChrisG27 >" <<[email hidden]> wrote in message news:bDcsa.59407$[email hidden]... > Just installed a new Audigy 2. Now when I play GPL I get lots ofstuttering
Quoted text (10 lines)> and freeze frames. This happens a lot when there are lots of cars on the > track. Upgraded from SB live which worked fine (then why the F**K did you > upgrade). Any ideas on getting this running? > > Chris > > ps. I'm running 98se > > >
The A2, with WDM drivers (these are WinXP drivers) instead of VXD drivers (these are Win98SE drivers) will not work well, if at all.....in Win98SE. It also won't work very well in NASCAR 2003. As of this date, Creative does not intend to further support Win98SE......and their updated drivers on their website are WDM drivers only. If you are going to continue to run Win98SE.....go back to your SB Live card. In fact, in racing sims, the A2 card offers no improvement...maybe even less quality sound (considering all the driver problems in Win98SE). If you are an audiophile, do lot of music recording and so forth, then the A2 makes sense. If not, stick with the SB Live (or SB 5.1 X-gamer) versions or go to another sound card company with similar products. Creative is essentially abandoning the Win98SE platform. By the way, Achim's A2 works in WinMe, because WinMe can (but no guarantee) work with the WDM drivers - maybe. But, it still works best with the VXD drivers...he's just lucky his sound card is working....and I doubt he's installed the updated patch from Creative...because there are no reports of the A2 working in WinMe with those drivers installed! Beware, dump Win98SE....or dump Creative....there are no other choices in the matter. Tom "ChrisG27 >" <<[email hidden]> wrote in message news:bDcsa.59407$[email hidden]... > Just installed a new Audigy 2. Now when I play GPL I get lots ofstuttering
Quoted text (10 lines)> and freeze frames. This happens a lot when there are lots of cars on the > track. Upgraded from SB live which worked fine (then why the F**K did you > upgrade). Any ideas on getting this running? > > Chris > > ps. I'm running 98se > > >
"Tom Pabst" > Beware, dump Win98SE....or dump Creative....there are no other choices > in the matter. > > Tom > > hmmm dump a company that has no respect for resource sharing or dump a company that has no respect for sharing. Tough choice. dave henrie
Achim 04 May 2003 09:59 UTC↳ reply to Tom Pabst#69077
On Sat, 03 May 2003 18:29:36 +0000 Tom Pabst wrote: ... > By the way, Achim's A2 works in WinMe, because WinMe can (but no guarantee) > work with the WDM drivers - maybe. But, it still works best with the VXD > drivers...he's just lucky his sound card is working....and I doubt he's > installed the updated patch from Creative...because there are no reports of > the A2 working in WinMe with those drivers installed! Hi Tom, two minor correction: - it worked with the VxD drivers off the A2's install CD as well, with one little glitch in that when shifting, sometimes the screen seemed to stop for a millisecond, as the shift sound was loaded or played. The effect only occurred during upshifts, and luckily was sufficiently minor to not affect the driving. - and, right now I'm using the auto-updated drivers from Creative, which are WDM, and that little glitch has gone away. I.e., the WDM drivers actually work better for me. IMHO, btw, the A2 sounds better than the SB's, but only is interesting for racing sims if these use the A2's advanced effects. GPL does not. N2003 under WinME works well with the A2, and even moderately uses some of the A2's advanced effects. But I can't compare the A2 to an SB in N2003, so I don't know how big the difference is. -- Achim ** Mail sent to this address is automatically deleted **
Right on, Sir! "Achim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Sat, 03 May 2003 18:29:36 +0000 Tom Pabst wrote: > ... > > By the way, Achim's A2 works in WinMe, because WinMe can (but noguarantee) > > work with the WDM drivers - maybe. But, it still works best with theVXD > > drivers...he's just lucky his sound card is working....and I doubt he's > > installed the updated patch from Creative...because there are no reportsof
Quoted text (28 lines)> > the A2 working in WinMe with those drivers installed! > > Hi Tom, > > two minor correction: > > - it worked with the VxD drivers off the A2's install CD as well, with one > little glitch in that when shifting, sometimes the screen seemed to stop > for a millisecond, as the shift sound was loaded or played. The effect > only occurred during upshifts, and luckily was sufficiently minor to not > affect the driving. > > - and, right now I'm using the auto-updated drivers from Creative, which > are WDM, and that little glitch has gone away. I.e., the WDM drivers > actually work better for me. > > IMHO, btw, the A2 sounds better than the SB's, but only is interesting for > racing sims if these use the A2's advanced effects. GPL does not. > > N2003 under WinME works well with the A2, and even moderately uses some of > the A2's advanced effects. But I can't compare the A2 to an SB in N2003, > so I don't know how big the difference is. > > -- > Achim > > ** Mail sent to this address is automatically deleted ** >

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