Attn Dave Henrie ATI 9500 Pro

Well, I just installed the third 9500 Pro, and it still fails to boot my machine. They say the card is OK. I'm beginning to believe them. Must be incompatible with my motherboard, or something. I'm about ready to buy an off-the-shelf gaming computer. Any ideas? Case of coke still available. OT: I was in Germany this week and visited Hockenheim. Interesting, but the shortened course takes a lot out of it. Some BMW drivers were doing 2:52 laps. Cheers, Sam

Samuel Senior <[email hidden]> wrote in news:[email hidden]:

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> Well, I just installed the third 9500 Pro, and it still fails to boot > my machine. They say the card is OK. I'm beginning to believe them. > Must be incompatible with my motherboard, or something. I'm about > ready to buy an off-the-shelf gaming computer. Any ideas? Case of coke > still available. OT: I was in Germany this week and visited > Hockenheim. Interesting, but the shortened course takes a lot out of > it. Some BMW drivers were doing 2:52 laps. Cheers, > Sam >

That REALLY must be frustrating. I never liked the old circuit cuz the chicanes were usually problematic for me. I'm not a big fan of chicanes in the first place so that track was like a poster child for bad racing. The new track trades rinky dink chicanes for a double infield. I would have like to have seen the 2nd straight after the pit/straight extended and another hairpin added. That would have doubled the decent passing areas. Oh well. As far as your motherboard, could it be power? Most of the newer cards need a line from the power brick to fully function. But it should still boot. I wonder if you just have too many devices draining too much power. Try a barebones boot where all you have is a harddrive connected. Pull the power plugs from the cdrom/dvd's, slave hard drives, floppies, anything that can drain power. Disconnect all USB devices, just keyboard, mouse and harddrive and see it that gets it running. IF so you'll need a beefier power supply. dave henrie

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> Well, I just installed the third 9500 Pro, and it still fails to boot > my machine. They say the card is OK. I'm beginning to believe them. > Must be incompatible with my motherboard, or something. I'm about > ready to buy an off-the-shelf gaming computer. Any ideas? Case of coke > still available. OT: I was in Germany this week and visited > Hockenheim. Interesting, but the shortened course takes a lot out of > it. Some BMW drivers were doing 2:52 laps. Cheers, > Sam

What motherboard, there have been problems with some (abit i think) motherboards. This *may* be solved by updating your bios (with another card in!) All the best, Ash http://www.siroccoracing.com

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> Samuel Senior <[email hidden]> wrote in > news:[email hidden]: > > > Well, I just installed the third 9500 Pro, and it still fails to boot > > my machine. They say the card is OK. I'm beginning to believe them. > > Must be incompatible with my motherboard, or something. I'm about > > ready to buy an off-the-shelf gaming computer. Any ideas? Case of coke > > still available. OT: I was in Germany this week and visited > > Hockenheim. Interesting, but the shortened course takes a lot out of > > it. Some BMW drivers were doing 2:52 laps. Cheers, > > Sam > >

I remember a similar problem I had trying to install a GF2 GTS on a Abit KT7A mobo. The fix was a setting in the BIOS to delay starting the boot sequence for about 4 seconds to give the card enough time to draw sufficient power or some such thing. Sorry I can't be more specific but it worked for me, indeed I just installed a 9700np card on the same mob last night and so far all seems to be working fine :-) Stewart

On Tue, 13 May 2003 13:08:05 GMT, Dave Henrie <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Samuel Senior <[email hidden]> wrote in >news:[email hidden]: > >> Well, I just installed the third 9500 Pro, and it still fails to boot >> my machine. They say the card is OK. I'm beginning to believe them. >> Must be incompatible with my motherboard, or something. I'm about >> ready to buy an off-the-shelf gaming computer. Any ideas? Case of coke >> still available. OT: I was in Germany this week and visited >> Hockenheim. Interesting, but the shortened course takes a lot out of >> it. Some BMW drivers were doing 2:52 laps. Cheers, >> Sam

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> As far as your motherboard, could it be power? Most of the newer cards >need a line from the power brick to fully function. But it should still >boot. I wonder if you just have too many devices draining too much power. >Try a barebones boot where all you have is a harddrive connected. Pull the >power plugs from the cdrom/dvd's, slave hard drives, floppies, anything >that can drain power. Disconnect all USB devices, just keyboard, mouse and >harddrive and see it that gets it running. > IF so you'll need a beefier power supply. >dave henrie

Yeh, I tried disconnecting everything. Then I put in a 420 watt power supply, which should be enough to crank a Harley. Also a new motherboard. Updated bios, but haven't tried that trick of delaying the boot. Not sure how to do that. System description: Product name Genuine Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 processor based Board model Genuine Intel(R) D845GBV system board OS version Windows* 2000 version 5.0 Service Pack 2 build 2195 OS memory 252,720 KB RAM Processor Genuine Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 processor Processor speed 2.27 GHz Bus speed 533 MHz L1 cache Data Cache 8KB, Execution Trace Cache 12K Micro-ops L2 cache Advanced Transfer Cache 512 KB Form factor Unknown Stepping 4 Physical memory 256 MB RAM Memory speed 266 MHz Memory type SDRAM, Synchronous Form factor DIMM BIOS date 04/12/2002 BIOS size 512 KB BIOS version P01 (RG84510A.86A.0006.P01.0204121445) Cheers, and MORE cheers if I ever get this fixed! Sam

Samuel Senior <[email hidden]> wrote in news:[email hidden]: > Cheers, and MORE cheers if I ever get this fixed! > Sam > > Is your current motherboard one that has built in video as an option? Like the Nforce2 Nvidia boards? Dig through the bios to make sure that option is turned off. Then the desperation stuff, put in a working video card, and choose the plain vga/agp video setting. Get that working and remove the card from the device manager and then physically remove it. Have you tried booting in safe mode? dave henrie

On Tue, 13 May 2003 07:32:42 GMT, Samuel Senior <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Well, I just installed the third 9500 Pro, and it still fails to boot >my machine. They say the card is OK. I'm beginning to believe them. >Must be incompatible with my motherboard, or something. I'm about >ready to buy an off-the-shelf gaming computer. Any ideas? Case of coke >still available. OT: I was in Germany this week and visited >Hockenheim. Interesting, but the shortened course takes a lot out of >it. Some BMW drivers were doing 2:52 laps. Cheers, >Sam

Whoopieeee! Finally, after a six month battle, the card will boot and operate! Thanx for all the suggestions. We looked at the latest bios update, and it said something about a fix for failure to boot on another card. We tried it anyway, and it booted!!! So it appears it was a bios problem. GPL is much smoother now, and GTR runs fine. My blood pressure has returned to par. Cheers, Happysam

Samuel Senior GPL is much smoother now, and GTR runs fine. > My blood pressure has returned to par. Cheers, Happysam > great news...that is disturbing tho that a bios problem would keep the cards from even booting. Have fun...check out the BPR mod and shortly the Ferrari challenge for GTR. And hopefully by the time LeMans runs the 2k2 version should be out as well. dave henrie