Turismo 4 Video..

Hey all.. I thought some would enjoy this turismo 4 video. I don't think I can link to it directly, but if you go to ps2.ign.com right now, the main feature is "E3 2003: gran turismo 4 movie: direct-feed footage.must-see!". It's a video of the Subaru WRC car offroad in a desert-type area. The environment looks amazing, and so does the lighting... The car looks actually realistic taking those corners too, like it was driven with a wheel and someone who knows what they are doing. (as apposed to all the CMR3 videos i've seen that are clearly digital joypad.. straight into trees :) Mike http://mikebeauchamp.com E3 2003: Gran Turismo 4 Movie

Mike Beauchamp wrote:

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> Hey all.. I thought some would enjoy this turismo 4 video. I don't think I > can link to it directly, but if you go to ps2.ign.com right now, the main > feature is "E3 2003: gran turismo 4 movie: direct-feed footage.must-see!". > > It's a video of the Subaru WRC car offroad in a desert-type area. The > environment looks amazing, and so does the lighting... The car looks > actually realistic taking those corners too, like it was driven with a wheel > and someone who knows what they are doing. (as apposed to all the CMR3 > videos i've seen that are clearly digital joypad.. straight into trees :) > > Mike > http://mikebeauchamp.com > > E3 2003: Gran Turismo 4 Movie

The problem with this game has always been one of multiple cars. One car on the track... it's an amazing work of art. Throw in 6 opponents and it's an exercise in futility. During the Sony E3 press conference the lead designer (forget his name) stated that for the first time in the GT series, there will be AI improvements made. That's odd considering I remember hearing the same statement during the GT3 speech. Watching a few of the GT4 movies there were several shots of the cars banging into each other. Sure it's early, but I don't think Japanese developers understand AI. There idea of AI is to have close, competitive races. European and North American developers understand that not only should the races be competitive, but the computer controlled cars should respect your car and your racing line. I may be wrong. The only good thing I can say about Japanese developers and racing games is that they tend to leave out their fascination with 'boss' levels. Another tired and stale gaming cliche perfected by Japanese developers.

Mike Beauchamp wrote:

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> Hey all.. I thought some would enjoy this turismo 4 video. I don't think I > can link to it directly, but if you go to ps2.ign.com right now, the main > feature is "E3 2003: gran turismo 4 movie: direct-feed footage.must-see!". > > It's a video of the Subaru WRC car offroad in a desert-type area. The > environment looks amazing, and so does the lighting... The car looks > actually realistic taking those corners too, like it was driven with a wheel > and someone who knows what they are doing. (as apposed to all the CMR3 > videos i've seen that are clearly digital joypad.. straight into trees :) > > Mike > http://mikebeauchamp.com > > E3 2003: Gran Turismo 4 Movie

Here's the best write up I've seen concerning GT4 http://www.gamers.com/game/1351024/ The paragraph about the AI still has me worried.

Sony's area of expertise is marketing and making money. They realise that the average moron that buys Gran Turismo games barely knows what AI is let alone whether it's any good or not. It's gotta sell to the masses, and rolling demos and screenshots are No1 priority.

I agree totally.. The AI in Turismo STINKS. Mike http://mikebeauchamp.com "Damien Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:b9v1sc$n41ps$[email hidden]...

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> Sony's area of expertise is marketing and making money. They realise that > the average moron that buys Gran Turismo games barely knows what AI is let > alone whether it's any good or not. It's gotta sell to the masses, and > rolling demos and screenshots are No1 priority. > > >

Internet User wrote: > Here's the best write up I've seen concerning GT4 > > http://www.gamers.com/game/1351024/ > > The paragraph about the AI still has me worried. As always, but it might get more fun if the AI is replaced with humans. :) I also like the part about the new driving wheel from Logitech with 900 degrees rotation... Finally, this could be a replacement to going to the gym... :) -- /S

I had the most fun with GT3 when both friends who owned PS2's linked them up and we had two TV's. It's just a fun game to be kickin' around with friends playing.. That 900 degree rotation wheel seems to make sense.. I mean, we're trying to simulate cars with these wheels that only rotate like what 200 degrees? Granted, that's perfectly fine for an F1 car.. but I'm sure cars like the GTi in LFS would have to turn more than that... It will be interesting to see it's implementation.. meaning, when you drive the F1 car, will it's lock-to-lock only be 200 degrees or whatever, but when you drive a completely stock regular road car, will it use it's full 900 degrees.. etc. I also wonder if that's actually measured and part of the game.. that would be a very interesting and innovative thing if during the making of the game, each car's steering range was measured and then programmed it's limits and everything for use with that one wheel. I guess thats' the bonus have having proprietary hardware like that 900 degree wheel. Mike http://mikebeauchamp.com "Stefan Larsson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:b9vdkq$sst$[email hidden]...

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> Internet User wrote: > > > Here's the best write up I've seen concerning GT4 > > > > http://www.gamers.com/game/1351024/ > > > > The paragraph about the AI still has me worried. > > As always, but it might get more fun if the AI is replaced > with humans. :) > > I also like the part about the new driving wheel from Logitech > with 900 degrees rotation... Finally, this could be a replacement > to going to the gym... :) > > -- > /S >

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> Internet User wrote: > >> Here's the best write up I've seen concerning GT4 >> >> http://www.gamers.com/game/1351024/ >> >> The paragraph about the AI still has me worried. > > > As always, but it might get more fun if the AI is replaced > with humans. :) >

From an article on ps2.ign.com... "Polyphony plans to up the level of artificial intelligence. Players will notice the AI behaving in more considerate ways -- not smashing or bumping into you, for instance --; they will make fewer mistakes, and there are more likely to catch up near the end of a game. For those who have spent significant time with GT, so often you'll win a race far ahead of other cars. Now, losing cars will never be that far behind." This is the 2nd time I've seen mention of the other cars making it a close race. That's not AI folks! Let's hope they're putting just as much effort into the "considerate ways" as they are as their new rubber banding of the computer cars.