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Blackhawk Farms?

9 posts by 4 people · 08 Mar 2007 17:51 UTC - 14 Mar 2007 10:11 UTC

Pat Dotson 08 Mar 2007 17:51 UTC#6803
Does anyone have Blackhawk Farms for rFactor? I've searched for it for quite a while and can't find it. Please let me know and email the file or link to me! Thanks, Pat Dotson
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Quoted text (7 lines)> Does anyone have Blackhawk Farms for rFactor? I've searched for it > for quite a while and can't find it. Please let me know and email the > file or link to me! > > Thanks, > Pat Dotson >
I haven't seen it Pat. Is that the Blackhawk in ILL? There used to be a Blackhawk RC there (going to age myself) that we used to race in the mid-60s...:-). IIRC, it was not far from the WI state line. I don't remember it being named Blackhawk Farms though.....although it could have been. Ed
That's the one Ed. I got a couple of links to the track, so I have it now. Talk about boring! :) Here is the Blackhawk Farms web site: http://www.blackhawkfarms.com/ Pat Dotson On Mar 11, 10:31 am, "Ed Medlin" <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (9 lines)> <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>anyone have Blackhawk Farms for rFactor? I've searched for it > > I haven't seen it Pat. Is that the Blackhawk in ILL? There used to be a > Blackhawk RC there (going to age myself) that we used to race in the > mid-60s...:-). IIRC, it was not far from the WI state line. I don't remember > it being named Blackhawk Farms though.....although it could have been. > > Ed
rqk 11 Mar 2007 17:59 UTC↳ reply to Pat Dotson#6816
The Midwestern Council http://autocross.mcscc.org/ runs some of their events there (both high speed autocross and wheel to wheel racing) and in real life it's a lot of fun. [email hidden] wrote:
Quoted text (21 lines)> That's the one Ed. I got a couple of links to the track, so I have it > now. Talk about boring! :) > > Here is the Blackhawk Farms web site: > > http://www.blackhawkfarms.com/ > > Pat Dotson > > > On Mar 11, 10:31 am, "Ed Medlin" <[email hidden]> wrote: >> <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>> anyone have Blackhawk Farms for rFactor? I've searched for it >> I haven't seen it Pat. Is that the Blackhawk in ILL? There used to be a >> Blackhawk RC there (going to age myself) that we used to race in the >> mid-60s...:-). IIRC, it was not far from the WI state line. I don't remember >> it being named Blackhawk Farms though.....although it could have been. >> >> Ed > >
Pat Dotson 12 Mar 2007 00:37 UTC↳ reply to rqk#6821
On Mar 11, 12:59 pm, rqk <[email hidden]> wrote: > The Midwestern Councilhttp://autocross.mcscc.org/runs some of their > events there (both high speed autocross and wheel to wheel racing) and > in real life it's a lot of fun. I bet it is! My comment was only directed at the sim version, which I understand isn't very good anyway. For a sim-track, it's boring. No elevation changes, not much scenery. In real life I'd kill to drive on it :) Pat Dotson
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Quoted text (12 lines)> On Mar 11, 12:59 pm, rqk <[email hidden]> wrote: >> The Midwestern Councilhttp://autocross.mcscc.org/runs some of their >> events there (both high speed autocross and wheel to wheel racing) and >> in real life it's a lot of fun. > > I bet it is! My comment was only directed at the sim version, which I > understand isn't very good anyway. For a sim-track, it's boring. No > elevation changes, not much scenery. In real life I'd kill to drive > on it :) > > Pat Dotson >
I am not sure if they have changed the circuit much, but I remember it being VERY narrow and hard to pass on. The sim track must not be accurate in the elevation change area. It has some elevation changes but I will concede that it is more subtle than many others. One other thing I remember is that is seems that almost every turn seemed to run away from you (almost like reverse banking). I belonged to an SCCA sanctioned club and ran a TR3 (aging myself more) in what was then 'H' street class. We even ran a road course at the Milwaukee Mile that doesn't exist anymore AFAIK. We were home based at Road America where I did my SCCA school in '65-66 getting rid of my rookie stripe. I remember the back part of Blackhawk being very technical and even in a TR3 staying in 2nd gear a lot. Those were the true amature days when you could go racing for $2,000-$2,500 including the car.....:-). If you belonged to a club, you could be very competive in your class for very little money. A 5-6yr old TR3 in 1965 would only cost you about $700-$900 and bringing it up to competitive racing standards (driving suit and helmet included) less than $1,000 more if you belonged to a good club. Thanks for bringing that track up Pat. If you could post a link to it I would be very pleased. It brings back some good old memories. Ed
On Mar 13, 8:32 am, "Ed Medlin" <[email hidden]> wrote: >If you could post a link to it I would be very > pleased. It brings back some good old memories. Try this: http://files.filefront.com/BlackHawkrar/;5066843;;/fileinfo.html Not sure if that link is still valid or not. BTW, my reason for wanting the track is that I had a former F2000 driver coming over to drive my simulator. He raced back in the early 90's with guys like Paul Tracy and Jimmy Vasser. He's ran all over at places like Mosport, Mid-Ohio, etc. He said Blackhawk was one of his favorites. He came over today, but we spent the whole time at his most favorite track; Road America. He was real impressed with the whole experience. One of the things I like to do is start somone out in a lower powered car, then after they get used to it put them in an F1 car. People are usually blown away by the acceleration, which you not only see on the screen but feel in the G-Seat on my racing rig. This guy was no exception. When he put the pedal down in the F1 car it definitely put a smile on his face! :) The most surprising comment he made is that the feedback from the new UltraForce G-Seat overwhelmed the feedback from the G25 steering wheel. He said the steering wheel forces felt weak in comparison to the seat. I think I have the forces turned down some on the steering wheel, but still... I thought that was a real positive sign for the G- Seat since it's response can be turned down or the steering wheel response can be increased. When I've talked to him about simulators in the past he never was very interested. After driving in my rig he's hooked! I think he gets it now :) Pat Dotson http://www.ultraforcesim.com
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Quoted text (40 lines)> On Mar 13, 8:32 am, "Ed Medlin" <[email hidden]> wrote: >>If you could post a link to it I would be very >> pleased. It brings back some good old memories. > > Try this: > > http://files.filefront.com/BlackHawkrar/;5066843;;/fileinfo.html > > Not sure if that link is still valid or not. > > BTW, my reason for wanting the track is that I had a former F2000 > driver coming over to drive my simulator. He raced back in the early > 90's with guys like Paul Tracy and Jimmy Vasser. He's ran all over at > places like Mosport, Mid-Ohio, etc. He said Blackhawk was one of his > favorites. He came over today, but we spent the whole time at his > most favorite track; Road America. He was real impressed with the > whole experience. > > One of the things I like to do is start somone out in a lower powered > car, then after they get used to it put them in an F1 car. People are > usually blown away by the acceleration, which you not only see on the > screen but feel in the G-Seat on my racing rig. This guy was no > exception. When he put the pedal down in the F1 car it definitely put > a smile on his face! :) > > The most surprising comment he made is that the feedback from the new > UltraForce G-Seat overwhelmed the feedback from the G25 steering > wheel. He said the steering wheel forces felt weak in comparison to > the seat. I think I have the forces turned down some on the steering > wheel, but still... I thought that was a real positive sign for the G- > Seat since it's response can be turned down or the steering wheel > response can be increased. > > When I've talked to him about simulators in the past he never was very > interested. After driving in my rig he's hooked! I think he gets it > now :) > > Pat Dotson > http://www.ultraforcesim.com >
The link worked fine. I just got my G25 and find the default forces just a bit low, so you could probably match that up pretty easily. My next investment might be a seat, but that will be awhile. I am redoing a room which will have a couple of systems and wheels for lan racing with freinds. I once got out of my TR3 and hopped into a buddie's 289 AC Cobra at Road America for a few laps and that was about like going from an F2000 to an F1 in my case........:--). Thanks again Pat. Ed >

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