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Bike sims realism

13 posts by 8 people · 20 May 2003 14:26 UTC - 27 May 2003 22:20 UTC

Dave Woods 20 May 2003 14:26 UTC#67921
Dunno about the legality of this, but what bike racing sims lack compared to the real thing (which I've done until it broke my wallet and threatened to break my body) is FEAR. A pair of spring loaded lump hammers aimed at the knees and a disc grinder over the knuckles ought to do it.... Davo
MrDavo wrote:
Quoted text (7 lines)> Dunno about the legality of this, but what bike racing sims lack > compared to the real thing (which I've done until it broke > my wallet and threatened to break my body) is FEAR. > > A pair of spring loaded lump hammers aimed at the knees > and a disc grinder over the knuckles ought to do it.... >
lol!! IMO I don't think you can sim a bike. I've played GP500 and WSB etc (hey 'No second prize' on the amiga just plain rocked), but since getting and riding (and breaking) the real thing I don't think I'll ever find a bike "sim". At speed so little steering input is used. Other moethods take over: counter steerng body placement, hanging off the bike, getting behind the screen, throttle blippin on braking clutch slipping etc I just can't see a way to get what these factors into a sim controller. As you ride a bike, you know that it "goes where you look" I never used to have fear riding (well apart from watching for others trying to get me), find out what I have now -- Steve - currently recovering from a broke collar bone. SV650S - slight dropped.
"MrDavo" <Davo@upyoursspam> wrote: > Dunno about the legality of this, but what bike racing sims lack > compared to the real thing (which I've done until it broke > my wallet and threatened to break my body) is FEAR. Don't all types of sims suffer from this though? In fact, I dare to say that /any/ computer game lacks fear. Just picture yourself running through a maze, being chased or even eaten alive by ghosts! That's no picknick either ;-) > A pair of spring loaded lump hammers aimed at the knees > and a disc grinder over the knuckles ought to do it.... Hmm, it's doable... :-) Ice D
On Tue, 20 May 2003 14:40:17 GMT, Virtually-aware <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (14 lines)>MrDavo wrote: >> Dunno about the legality of this, but what bike racing sims lack >> compared to the real thing (which I've done until it broke >> my wallet and threatened to break my body) is FEAR. >> >> A pair of spring loaded lump hammers aimed at the knees >> and a disc grinder over the knuckles ought to do it.... >> >lol!! > >IMO I don't think you can sim a bike. I've played GP500 and WSB etc (hey >'No second prize' on the amiga just plain rocked), but since getting and >riding (and breaking) the real thing I don't think I'll ever find a bike >"sim".
Never say never. Once they can simulate the pulses nerves deliver at the brain, it can become scary.... <g>
Quoted text (18 lines)>At speed so little steering input is used. Other moethods take over: >counter steerng >body placement, >hanging off the bike, >getting behind the screen, >throttle blippin on braking >clutch slipping >etc >I just can't see a way to get what these factors into a sim controller. >As you ride a bike, you know that it "goes where you look" > >I never used to have fear riding (well apart from watching for others >trying to get me), find out what I have now > >-- >Steve - currently recovering from a broke collar bone. >SV650S - slight dropped. >
The SV650S isn't fast enough to scare you, try an Yamaha R1..... :-P Remco (who ownes an R1, and luckily a good washing machine to clean my pants after I scared myself once again....)
Very true, Ice, I guess shoot 'em ups could have guns aimed at the player, or war games could blow you up at random with friendly fire too... I like Steve's list of things bike sims dont do, also: bug splats the smell of castor oil & hot rubber red flags & restarts sweat in your eyes apalling paddock toilets Ice D <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:brrya.21092$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (7 lines)> "MrDavo" <Davo@upyoursspam> wrote: > > > Dunno about the legality of this, but what bike racing sims lack > > compared to the real thing (which I've done until it broke > > my wallet and threatened to break my body) is FEAR. > > Don't all types of sims suffer from this though? In fact, I dare to say
that > /any/ computer game lacks fear. Just picture yourself running through a > maze, being chased or even eaten alive by ghosts! That's no picknickeither
Quoted text (10 lines)> ;-) > > > A pair of spring loaded lump hammers aimed at the knees > > and a disc grinder over the knuckles ought to do it.... > > Hmm, it's doable... :-) > > Ice D > >
MrDavo wrote: >>Don't all types of sims suffer from this though? In fact, I dare to say >>that /any/ computer game lacks fear. Ahem, I'll start my response by stating that every time *I*'m coming up to Masta in GPL trying to pull a Really Fast One, my brain does a *very* good impression of Utterly Naked Sudden Death Angst and Wild Untamed Rampant Self-Preservation Instinct,... ..and I'll end my riposte with this absolutely *classic* Usenet quote from some years ago: "DOOM not scary?! DOOM scared the hell out of me on a 386sx/25 4MB RAM and an 8-bit sound card. If you have not jumped out of your seat at least on one occasion due to a big pink shaved gorilla mofo gnawing on your bum, you're just STRANGE, man." - [email hidden] Regards, Rudy
Actually (not being able to lap Nurby without crashing) trying to take Masta as fast as possible, or for me, also the right hander before La Carriere is proper heart in the mouth stuff because if you stuff it youve wasted the whole lap, whereas at somewhere like the Glen you get another go in just over a minute. I read somewhere an interview with one of the 60's GP drivers talking about screaming in his helmet as he went over the finish line at Rouen into the flat kink! Davo Ruud Dingemans <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:baer6c$kq3$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (21 lines)> > Ahem, > > I'll start my response by stating that every time *I*'m coming up to > Masta in GPL trying to pull a Really Fast One, my brain does a *very* > good impression of Utterly Naked Sudden Death Angst and Wild Untamed > Rampant Self-Preservation Instinct,... > > > ..and I'll end my riposte with this absolutely *classic* Usenet quote > from some years ago: > > > "DOOM not scary?! DOOM scared the hell out of me on a 386sx/25 4MB RAM > and an 8-bit sound card. If you have not jumped out of your seat at > least on one occasion due to a big pink shaved gorilla mofo gnawing on > your bum, you're just STRANGE, man." - [email hidden] > > > Regards, Rudy >
"Ruud Dingemans" <[email hidden]> wrote > MrDavo wrote: (this was me actually, anyways..)
Quoted text (19 lines)> >>Don't all types of sims suffer from this though? In fact, I dare to say > >>that /any/ computer game lacks fear. > Ahem, > > I'll start my response by stating that every time *I*'m coming up to > Masta in GPL trying to pull a Really Fast One, my brain does a *very* > good impression of Utterly Naked Sudden Death Angst and Wild Untamed > Rampant Self-Preservation Instinct,... > > > ..and I'll end my riposte with this absolutely *classic* Usenet quote > from some years ago: > > > "DOOM not scary?! DOOM scared the hell out of me on a 386sx/25 4MB RAM > and an 8-bit sound card. If you have not jumped out of your seat at > least on one occasion due to a big pink shaved gorilla mofo gnawing on > your bum, you're just STRANGE, man." - [email hidden]
LOL! I hear you man... Not to mention System Shock 2, I had to wear diapers playing that. Ice D
On Tue, 20 May 2003 15:01:27 GMT, "Ice D" <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (10 lines)>"MrDavo" <Davo@upyoursspam> wrote: > >> Dunno about the legality of this, but what bike racing sims lack >> compared to the real thing (which I've done until it broke >> my wallet and threatened to break my body) is FEAR. > >Don't all types of sims suffer from this though? In fact, I dare to say that >/any/ computer game lacks fear. Just picture yourself running through a >maze, being chased or even eaten alive by ghosts! That's no picknick either >;-)
Hehe. On the other hand, a Save feature would be nice. ;-) That way, you wouldn't need sims (before people start thinking in other directions). :) Ruud van Gaal Free car sim: http://www.racer.nl/ Pencil art : http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery/
On Tue, 20 May 2003 18:33:03 GMT, Virtually-aware <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (13 lines)>Remco Moedt wrote: >> The SV650S isn't fast enough to scare you, try an Yamaha R1..... :-P >> >> >> Remco (who ownes an R1, and luckily a good washing machine to clean >> my pants after I scared myself once again....) >> >Building my R1 now.. as nothing better todo >Download direct from yamaha: > >http://www.yamaha-motor.co.jp/eng/papercraft/yzf-r1/0002.html > >It's going to take more time than mastering the ring!
Hehehe, great! Remco
In article <baer6c$kq3$[email hidden]>, Ruud Dingemans <[email hidden]> writes: >"DOOM not scary?! DOOM scared the hell out of me on a 386sx/25 4MB RAM >and an 8-bit sound card. If you have not jumped out of your seat at >least on one occasion due to a big pink shaved gorilla mofo gnawing on >your bum, you're just STRANGE, man." - [email hidden] Those of us who have played Return to Castle Wolfenstein may remember the sudden shock of having a zombie break out of the wall you've just walked past...<g> Hell, the *original* Castle Wolfenstein(on an Apple II+) had its heart-stopping moments.<g> Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank:-1.950 MonsterRank: +305.145 N2002 Rank:+17.59 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
Quoted text (12 lines)> > The SV650S isn't fast enough to scare you, try an Yamaha R1..... :-P > > > > > > Remco (who ownes an R1, and luckily a good washing machine to clean > > my pants after I scared myself once again....) > > > Building my R1 now.. as nothing better todo > Download direct from yamaha: > > http://www.yamaha-motor.co.jp/eng/papercraft/yzf-r1/0002.html > > It's going to take more time than mastering the ring!
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