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fresnal lenses

6 posts by 3 people · 17 Mar 2007 13:00 UTC - 19 Mar 2007 14:38 UTC

Milo Johnson 17 Mar 2007 13:00 UTC#6785
I'm thinking of getting one of these for my 19" lcd monitor and would appreciate some information. What is the best groove pitch and focal length to get for this? Thank you MILO
rqk 17 Mar 2007 16:57 UTC↳ reply to Milo Johnson#6786
Most people go with the F550 from 3dlens.com Here are the specs. The smaller the groove pitch the better, but I don't know how easy it will be to find less than 0.2mm. Overall size: 320mm x 400mm Fresnel size: 320mm x 400mm Thickness: 2mm Material: optical acrylic Groove pitch: 0.2mm (127 grooves per inch) Focal length: 550mm Milo Johnson wrote:
Quoted text (7 lines)> I'm thinking of getting one of these for my 19" lcd monitor and would > appreciate some information. > What is the best groove pitch and focal length to get for this? > Thank you > MILO > >
Milo Johnson 17 Mar 2007 20:28 UTC↳ reply to rqk#6788
rqk, Thank you very much for the info as it answered my question 100% Not often that happens:) MILO "rqk" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (17 lines)> Most people go with the F550 from 3dlens.com > Here are the specs. The smaller the groove pitch the better, but I don't > know how easy it will be to find less than 0.2mm. > > Overall size: 320mm x 400mm > Fresnel size: 320mm x 400mm > Thickness: 2mm > Material: optical acrylic > Groove pitch: 0.2mm (127 grooves per inch) > Focal length: 550mm > > Milo Johnson wrote: >> I'm thinking of getting one of these for my 19" lcd monitor and would >> appreciate some information. >> What is the best groove pitch and focal length to get for this? >> Thank you >> MILO
I just want to point out that smaller pitch is not necessarily better. In fact it's probably worse. More grooves mean more divisions in the lens, and each division scatters light. There is no way around it. I've learned a bit about lenses while pursuing another of my hobbies - astronomy :) Honestly, the 8.5x11 full page magnifier you can get from Staples or any office supply store with probably 50 grooves per inch is more pleasant to look through than the F550. But, the F550 is not bad. I have one and used it all the time before I got a TH2Go. If I was going to get another lens I'd be looking for a larger groove pitch. Pat Dotson On Mar 17, 3:28 pm, "Milo Johnson" <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (29 lines)> rqk, > Thank you very much for the info as it answered my question 100% Not often > that happens:) > > MILO"rqk" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > Most people go with the F550 from 3dlens.com > > Here are the specs. The smaller the groove pitch the better, but I don't > > know how easy it will be to find less than 0.2mm. > > > Overall size: 320mm x 400mm > > Fresnel size: 320mm x 400mm > > Thickness: 2mm > > Material: optical acrylic > > Groove pitch: 0.2mm (127 grooves per inch) > > Focal length: 550mm > > > Milo Johnson wrote: > >> I'm thinking of getting one of these for my 19" lcd monitor and would > >> appreciate some information. > >> What is the best groove pitch and focal length to get for this? > >> Thank you > >> MILO- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
rqk 18 Mar 2007 15:46 UTC↳ reply to Pat Dotson#6793
I thought that smaller pitch was better because it would be altering smaller divisions of the screen and make the transition smoother, almost as if the lens were completely smooth as if it had an "infinite" number of grooves. I thought a bigger dot pitch would make things more grainy. Oh well, learn something new everyday. Thanks. [email hidden] wrote:
Quoted text (44 lines)> I just want to point out that smaller pitch is not necessarily > better. In fact it's probably worse. More grooves mean more > divisions in the lens, and each division scatters light. There is no > way around it. I've learned a bit about lenses while pursuing another > of my hobbies - astronomy :) > > Honestly, the 8.5x11 full page magnifier you can get from Staples or > any office supply store with probably 50 grooves per inch is more > pleasant to look through than the F550. But, the F550 is not bad. I > have one and used it all the time before I got a TH2Go. If I was > going to get another lens I'd be looking for a larger groove pitch. > > Pat Dotson > > > On Mar 17, 3:28 pm, "Milo Johnson" <[email hidden]> wrote: >> rqk, >> Thank you very much for the info as it answered my question 100% Not often >> that happens:) >> >> MILO"rqk" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> >> news:[email hidden]... >> >> >> >>> Most people go with the F550 from 3dlens.com >>> Here are the specs. The smaller the groove pitch the better, but I don't >>> know how easy it will be to find less than 0.2mm. >>> Overall size: 320mm x 400mm >>> Fresnel size: 320mm x 400mm >>> Thickness: 2mm >>> Material: optical acrylic >>> Groove pitch: 0.2mm (127 grooves per inch) >>> Focal length: 550mm >>> Milo Johnson wrote: >>>> I'm thinking of getting one of these for my 19" lcd monitor and would >>>> appreciate some information. >>>> What is the best groove pitch and focal length to get for this? >>>> Thank you >>>> MILO- Hide quoted text - >> - Show quoted text - > >
Pat Dotson 19 Mar 2007 14:38 UTC↳ reply to rqk#6698
On Mar 18, 11:46 am, rqk <[email hidden]> wrote: > I thought that smaller pitch was better because it would be altering > smaller divisions of the screen and make the transition smoother, almost > as if the lens were completely smooth as if it had an "infinite" number > of grooves. I thought a bigger dot pitch would make things more grainy. A normal lens is not segmented like a Fresnel lens. Imagine you had a top quality lens or mirror for a telescope. Now, if it were possible, you start slicing that perfect lens up into concentric circles to create a Fresnel lens. Each slice you put into the lens will reduce the quality of the resulting view through the lens because each new division is going to scatter the light particles that hit it. More divisions = more scattered light = more glare and less clarity in the view. Now, you could have a super-high quality fine pitch Fresnel that could look better than a poorly made coarse pitch Fresnel, but that's a different issue. Assuming decent quality, a coarser pitch Fresnel lens should look better with less glare. Pat Dotson

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