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Well i`ve been on the PC scene since about the times when a P120Mhz was the latest bit of kit....( 10 years..? or more ), I`ve always built my own computers and even my own race cockpits and modified pedals and steering wheels etc... so imaging my hate towards my current computer.. It`s a AMD Thunder Bird 1.4 GHZ, 512Mb of ram, ABit KT7a mainboard, Soundblaster 1024 live, Geforce 4 Ti4600 128mb, etc etc, to put things easy... i`m running XP, i`ve gt the latest Gefore drivers, soundblaster drivers, VIA drivers etc etc... and oddly when ever i play a racing game i get about 10-15 seconds into the driving bit and it either crashes to desktop, or reboots the computer. Now nothing is overclocked, my Bios settings are something like, AGP 128Mb, 4x enabled, i`ve tried slower setting and still nothing, Yet if i play a 1st person shooter i can play all day ? Now at the mo, i cant play.... GrandPrix 4, Nascar 2003, Total Immersion Racing, F1-2002... and about ever other commerical racing game on the planet..? Yet Live for speed works ? All my 1st person games work, all my other style of games work.. just not racing games... I`ve tried Direct-x 9, and then gone back to XP standard one.... i even done a complete reformat and built it up from scratch but nothing ..? So anyone shed some light my way, or is this going to be a nice present for the dustman ??

In article <badqsm$t0u$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Paulinho) wrote: > ABit KT7a mainboard, I haven't got time to go check on this, but VIA's website recommends a particular type of 4in1 driver if you have an Nvidia card. I had all sorts of problems with XP and games until I removed the latest 4in1's (the installer will do it for you) and installed this version. Some games were fine (though usually only 2d ones like Cossacks) but most 3d would CTD or lock up. Andrew McP

I ditched my 1.4 and KT7a long ago after using it for less than 6 months. It was nothing but trouble and I vowed never to use a VIA chipset again. Sorry for the unhelpful reply, but I wasted more time than I care to remember on that combo and replaced it with a P4 chip and board. With all other hardware identical and keeping the same Win98 install (!!!) all worked perfectly from that point forward. I am sure somehow your rig could be made to work. If your time is worthless, it may be a good idea to pursue it. It more likely is time to upgrade since that chip isn't anywhere near fast enough to run NR2003 or other new stuff anyway. Marc "Paulinho" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:badqsm$t0u$[email hidden]... > Well i`ve been on the PC scene since about the times when a P120Mhz wasthe

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> latest bit of kit....( 10 years..? or more ), I`ve always built my own > computers and even my own race cockpits and modified pedals and steering > wheels etc... so imaging my hate towards my current computer.. It`s a AMD > Thunder Bird 1.4 GHZ, > 512Mb of ram, > ABit KT7a mainboard, > Soundblaster 1024 live, > Geforce 4 Ti4600 128mb, > > etc etc, > > to put things easy... i`m running XP, i`ve gt the latest Gefore drivers, > soundblaster drivers, VIA drivers etc etc... and oddly when ever i play a > racing game i get about 10-15 seconds into the driving bit and it either > crashes to desktop, or reboots the computer. > Now nothing is overclocked, my Bios settings are something like, AGP

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> 4x enabled, i`ve tried slower setting and still nothing, > > Yet if i play a 1st person shooter i can play all day ? > Now at the mo, i cant play.... > > GrandPrix 4, > Nascar 2003, > Total Immersion Racing, > F1-2002... > and about ever other commerical racing game on the planet..? > > Yet Live for speed works ? > All my 1st person games work, all my other style of games work.. just not > racing games... > I`ve tried Direct-x 9, and then gone back to XP standard one.... i even

done > a complete reformat and built it up from scratch but nothing ..? > > So anyone shed some light my way, or is this going to be a nice presentfor > the dustman ?? > > > >

im on a p3 550 with a geforce card. if your system cant run it then mine should run it backwards. howdy. im pez :) pez "Marc Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:bZvya.4752$[email hidden]... > I ditched my 1.4 and KT7a long ago after using it for less than 6 months. > It was nothing but trouble and I vowed never to use a VIA chipset again. > > Sorry for the unhelpful reply, but I wasted more time than I care to > remember on that combo and replaced it with a P4 chip and board. With all > other hardware identical and keeping the same Win98 install (!!!) allworked

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> perfectly from that point forward. > > I am sure somehow your rig could be made to work. If your time is > worthless, it may be a good idea to pursue it. It more likely is time to > upgrade since that chip isn't anywhere near fast enough to run NR2003 or > other new stuff anyway. > > Marc > > "Paulinho" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:badqsm$t0u$[email hidden]... > > Well i`ve been on the PC scene since about the times when a P120Mhz was > the > > latest bit of kit....( 10 years..? or more ), I`ve always built my own > > computers and even my own race cockpits and modified pedals and steering > > wheels etc... so imaging my hate towards my current computer.. It`s a

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> > Thunder Bird 1.4 GHZ, > > 512Mb of ram, > > ABit KT7a mainboard, > > Soundblaster 1024 live, > > Geforce 4 Ti4600 128mb, > > > > etc etc, > > > > to put things easy... i`m running XP, i`ve gt the latest Gefore drivers, > > soundblaster drivers, VIA drivers etc etc... and oddly when ever i play

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> > racing game i get about 10-15 seconds into the driving bit and it either > > crashes to desktop, or reboots the computer. > > Now nothing is overclocked, my Bios settings are something like, AGP > 128Mb, > > 4x enabled, i`ve tried slower setting and still nothing, > > > > Yet if i play a 1st person shooter i can play all day ? > > Now at the mo, i cant play.... > > > > GrandPrix 4, > > Nascar 2003, > > Total Immersion Racing, > > F1-2002... > > and about ever other commerical racing game on the planet..? > > > > Yet Live for speed works ? > > All my 1st person games work, all my other style of games work.. just

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> > racing games... > > I`ve tried Direct-x 9, and then gone back to XP standard one.... i even > done > > a complete reformat and built it up from scratch but nothing ..? > > > > So anyone shed some light my way, or is this going to be a nice present > for > > the dustman ?? > > > > > > > > > >

A computer so slow, it runs the program backwards.. oh man, that's gonna tie my mind up for a few hours.. Mike http://mikebeauchamp.com "Alex 'pez' Porazinski" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:baed2m$k2o$[email hidden]...

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> im on a p3 550 with a geforce card. > > if your system cant run it then mine should run it backwards. > > howdy. im pez :) > > pez > > "Marc Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:bZvya.4752$[email hidden]... > > I ditched my 1.4 and KT7a long ago after using it for less than 6

months. > > It was nothing but trouble and I vowed never to use a VIA chipset again. > > > > Sorry for the unhelpful reply, but I wasted more time than I care to > > remember on that combo and replaced it with a P4 chip and board. Withall > > other hardware identical and keeping the same Win98 install (!!!) all > worked > > perfectly from that point forward. > > > > I am sure somehow your rig could be made to work. If your time is > > worthless, it may be a good idea to pursue it. It more likely is timeto

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> > upgrade since that chip isn't anywhere near fast enough to run NR2003 or > > other new stuff anyway. > > > > Marc > > > > "Paulinho" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:badqsm$t0u$[email hidden]... > > > Well i`ve been on the PC scene since about the times when a P120Mhz

was > > the > > > latest bit of kit....( 10 years..? or more ), I`ve always built my own > > > computers and even my own race cockpits and modified pedals andsteering

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> > > wheels etc... so imaging my hate towards my current computer.. It`s a > AMD > > > Thunder Bird 1.4 GHZ, > > > 512Mb of ram, > > > ABit KT7a mainboard, > > > Soundblaster 1024 live, > > > Geforce 4 Ti4600 128mb, > > > > > > etc etc, > > > > > > to put things easy... i`m running XP, i`ve gt the latest Gefore

drivers, > > > soundblaster drivers, VIA drivers etc etc... and oddly when ever iplay > a > > > racing game i get about 10-15 seconds into the driving bit and iteither

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> > > crashes to desktop, or reboots the computer. > > > Now nothing is overclocked, my Bios settings are something like, AGP > > 128Mb, > > > 4x enabled, i`ve tried slower setting and still nothing, > > > > > > Yet if i play a 1st person shooter i can play all day ? > > > Now at the mo, i cant play.... > > > > > > GrandPrix 4, > > > Nascar 2003, > > > Total Immersion Racing, > > > F1-2002... > > > and about ever other commerical racing game on the planet..? > > > > > > Yet Live for speed works ? > > > All my 1st person games work, all my other style of games work.. just > not > > > racing games... > > > I`ve tried Direct-x 9, and then gone back to XP standard one.... i

even > > done > > > a complete reformat and built it up from scratch but nothing ..? > > > > > > So anyone shed some light my way, or is this going to be a nicepresent

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> > for > > > the dustman ?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

ok thanks for that, im looking now ok "Andrew MacPherson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> In article <badqsm$t0u$[email hidden]>, > [email hidden] (Paulinho) wrote: > > > ABit KT7a mainboard, > > I haven't got time to go check on this, but VIA's website recommends a > particular type of 4in1 driver if you have an Nvidia card. I had all sorts > of problems with XP and games until I removed the latest 4in1's (the > installer will do it for you) and installed this version. Some games were > fine (though usually only 2d ones like Cossacks) but most 3d would CTD or > lock up. > > Andrew McP

well im 95% there, i need the Via 4.42 drivers or something, it seems more stable, but the ultimate test comes tonight when i reinstall GP4 lol Thanks all "Jerry Hunnicutt" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:q43za.70659$rt6.27483@sccrnsc02... > I had a setup once that would crash within 3 laps everytime...turned outthe

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> video card wasnt seated all the way. > "Mike Beauchamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:D4Aya.21867$[email hidden]... > > A computer so slow, it runs the program backwards.. oh man, that's gonna > tie > > my mind up for a few hours.. > > > > Mike > > http://mikebeauchamp.com > > > > "Alex 'pez' Porazinski" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:baed2m$k2o$[email hidden]... > > > im on a p3 550 with a geforce card. > > > > > > if your system cant run it then mine should run it backwards. > > > > > > howdy. im pez :) > > > > > > pez > > > > > > "Marc Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:bZvya.4752$[email hidden]... > > > > I ditched my 1.4 and KT7a long ago after using it for less than 6 > > months. > > > > It was nothing but trouble and I vowed never to use a VIA chipset > again. > > > > > > > > Sorry for the unhelpful reply, but I wasted more time than I care to > > > > remember on that combo and replaced it with a P4 chip and board.

With > > all > > > > other hardware identical and keeping the same Win98 install (!!!)all > > > worked > > > > perfectly from that point forward. > > > > > > > > I am sure somehow your rig could be made to work. If your time is > > > > worthless, it may be a good idea to pursue it. It more likely istime > > to > > > > upgrade since that chip isn't anywhere near fast enough to runNR2003

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> or > > > > other new stuff anyway. > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > "Paulinho" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:badqsm$t0u$[email hidden]... > > > > > Well i`ve been on the PC scene since about the times when a

P120Mhz

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> > was > > > > the > > > > > latest bit of kit....( 10 years..? or more ), I`ve always built my > own > > > > > computers and even my own race cockpits and modified pedals and > > steering > > > > > wheels etc... so imaging my hate towards my current computer..

It`s

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> a > > > AMD > > > > > Thunder Bird 1.4 GHZ, > > > > > 512Mb of ram, > > > > > ABit KT7a mainboard, > > > > > Soundblaster 1024 live, > > > > > Geforce 4 Ti4600 128mb, > > > > > > > > > > etc etc, > > > > > > > > > > to put things easy... i`m running XP, i`ve gt the latest Gefore > > drivers, > > > > > soundblaster drivers, VIA drivers etc etc... and oddly when ever i > > play > > > a > > > > > racing game i get about 10-15 seconds into the driving bit and it > > either > > > > > crashes to desktop, or reboots the computer. > > > > > Now nothing is overclocked, my Bios settings are something like,

AGP

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> > > > 128Mb, > > > > > 4x enabled, i`ve tried slower setting and still nothing, > > > > > > > > > > Yet if i play a 1st person shooter i can play all day ? > > > > > Now at the mo, i cant play.... > > > > > > > > > > GrandPrix 4, > > > > > Nascar 2003, > > > > > Total Immersion Racing, > > > > > F1-2002... > > > > > and about ever other commerical racing game on the planet..? > > > > > > > > > > Yet Live for speed works ? > > > > > All my 1st person games work, all my other style of games work.. > just > > > not > > > > > racing games... > > > > > I`ve tried Direct-x 9, and then gone back to XP standard one.... i > > even > > > > done > > > > > a complete reformat and built it up from scratch but nothing ..? > > > > > > > > > > So anyone shed some light my way, or is this going to be a nice > > present > > > > for > > > > > the dustman ?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

My guess is you need the "pci latency patch" from here : http://www.georgebreese.com/net/software/#PCI Hope it helps /TT On Tue, 20 May 2003 16:10:37 -0400, Marc Collins <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> I ditched my 1.4 and KT7a long ago after using it for less than 6 months. > It was nothing but trouble and I vowed never to use a VIA chipset again. > > Sorry for the unhelpful reply, but I wasted more time than I care to > remember on that combo and replaced it with a P4 chip and board. With > all > other hardware identical and keeping the same Win98 install (!!!) all > worked > perfectly from that point forward. > > I am sure somehow your rig could be made to work. If your time is > worthless, it may be a good idea to pursue it. It more likely is time to > upgrade since that chip isn't anywhere near fast enough to run NR2003 or > other new stuff anyway. > > Marc > > "Paulinho" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:badqsm$t0u$[email hidden]... >> Well i`ve been on the PC scene since about the times when a P120Mhz was > the >> latest bit of kit...( 10 years..? or more ), I`ve always built my own >> computers and even my own race cockpits and modified pedals and steering >> wheels etc... so imaging my hate towards my current computer.. It`s a >> AMD >> Thunder Bird 1.4 GHZ, >> 512Mb of ram, >> ABit KT7a mainboard, >> Soundblaster 1024 live, >> Geforce 4 Ti4600 128mb, >> >> etc etc, >> >> to put things easy... i`m running XP, i`ve gt the latest Gefore drivers, >> soundblaster drivers, VIA drivers etc etc... and oddly when ever i play >> a >> racing game i get about 10-15 seconds into the driving bit and it either >> crashes to desktop, or reboots the computer. >> Now nothing is overclocked, my Bios settings are something like, AGP > 128Mb, >> 4x enabled, i`ve tried slower setting and still nothing, >> >> Yet if i play a 1st person shooter i can play all day ? >> Now at the mo, i cant play.... >> >> GrandPrix 4, >> Nascar 2003, >> Total Immersion Racing, >> F1-2002... >> and about ever other commerical racing game on the planet..? >> >> Yet Live for speed works ? >> All my 1st person games work, all my other style of games work.. just >> not >> racing games... >> I`ve tried Direct-x 9, and then gone back to XP standard one.... i even > done >> a complete reformat and built it up from scratch but nothing ..? >> >> So anyone shed some light my way, or is this going to be a nice present > for >> the dustman ?? >> >> >> >> > > >

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