System
AMD XP1700+
GF3 Ti200
512MB PC2700 ram
Windows XP Pro
Fresh install of F12002 always works fine.
GTR & A147 mod works okay
Then as soon as I try to install BPR mod, the whole lot ctds', even the
original F12002 install in a separate file stops working......
Has an FAQ evolved over what common thinks spook the mods, eg nvidia driver
versions etc.
I've only just got a DSL connection, so I wanted to try F1RST and race
online ( like VROC - GPL ), but the above nonsense is just p#ssing me off.
IJ
F1 2002 mods crash, then a debate over swearing
Ian Jarvis asked why installing the BPR mod made F1 2002 and all its mods crash to desktop; Dave Henrie suggested an incomplete install and said he ran several mods side by side. Most of the thread became an argument over whether the swearword in the subject line was offensive.
Automated summary.
Keep that sort of langauge out of the header please.
It did cause offence
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> This happens to me too but you know what I just gave up on it - no great
> loss as F1-2002 is crap anyways.
It's sooooooooooooo crap, that these guys wasted months doing mods for it.
Yeah, right. Lets see now, where would GT2002,Alpha mod etc be without
F12002 ?
F1 2002 is a great game in its own right. Perhaps you are just biased
against F1.
"Ian Jarvis" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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Most likely something didn't get completed in the BPR install. The good
news is most likely it can be fixed. Worse case scenario would be just re-
install everything. I've got a half dozen mods including BPR working
sucessfully out of the same F1 2k2 folders. Verify that the track folder
has tracks, and that the drivers files are in the drivers folder and that
the vehicles folder is populated with BPR cars.
Why the other programs are messing up, is perplexing. Check that the
config.ini and gtr2002config.ini files are in the f1 2002 folder. (ditto
for the bprconfig file..)
Don't panic it just may take some time to square it away. FIRST works
with about 5 or 6 different mods, not just BPR, it supports the Alfa mod,
GTR, BMWM3, the F1 95 mod and probably more since last I checked. There
have been some reports recently that FIRST is causing conflicts with the
mods. Your post indicates you haven't tried FIRST yet, but if you have,
that might be the source of the troubles.
check out the various mod forums at racesimcentral and simbin.
dave henrie
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> System > > AMD XP1700+ > GF3 Ti200 > 512MB PC2700 ram > Windows XP Pro > > Fresh install of F12002 always works fine. > GTR & A147 mod works okayI reckon F12002 is well worth playing. I am a big GPL - vroc fan and the
only thing that F12002 couldn't offer me was an online racing facility
because I was stuck with 56k modems.
I did want to build up a whole collection of mods , carsets , tracks &
setups but it all seems very fragile like a house of cards. You build up a
few mods and then you add something that then brings the whole thing
tumbling down.
If I could at least get a 2003 F1 season update running on F1RST using my
500kbs adsl line , I would be quite happy.
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> > This happens to me too but you know what I just gave up on it - no great > > loss as F1-2002 is crap anyways. > > It's sooooooooooooo crap, that these guys wasted months doing mods for it. > Yeah, right. Lets see now, where would GT2002,Alpha mod etc be without > F12002 ? > F1 2002 is a great game in its own right. Perhaps you are just biased > against F1. > >Aidee wrote:
> Keep that sort of langauge out of the header please.
> It did cause offence
Huh? It only said F~CK, now if it had said F U C K that'd've been
something completely different ;)
(Besides, it's just a word, there actually are worse things in the world
going on, children dying, wars to grab some more oil, etc...)
Regards, Rudy
Great points, I guess.
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> Aidee wrote: > > Keep that sort of langauge out of the header please. > > It did cause offence > > > Huh? It only said F~CK, now if it had said F U C K that'd've been > something completely different ;) > > (Besides, it's just a word, there actually are worse things in the world > going on, children dying, wars to grab some more oil, etc...) > > Regards, Rudy >Beautiful point!
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> Aidee wrote: > > Keep that sort of langauge out of the header please. > > It did cause offence > > > Huh? It only said F~CK, now if it had said F U C K that'd've been > something completely different ;) > > (Besides, it's just a word, there actually are worse things in the world > going on, children dying, wars to grab some more oil, etc...) > > Regards, Rudy >Ruud Dingemans <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<bbm3gq$10b$[email hidden]>...
What kind of logic is that!?!
In that case, I may as well go and steal a tv "because there are worse
things in the world going on", that makes it alright.
lol
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> Aidee wrote: > > Keep that sort of langauge out of the header please. > > It did cause offence > > > Huh? It only said F~CK, now if it had said F U C K that'd've been > something completely different ;) > > (Besides, it's just a word, there actually are worse things in the world > going on, children dying, wars to grab some more oil, etc...) > > Regards, Rudy
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> Ruud Dingemans <[email hidden]> wrote in messagenews:<bbm3gq$10b$[email hidden]>...
What kind of logic is that!?!
Equating *words* just words, with horrific *actions*
Tying in stealing with something verbal or written is just
illogical...
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> > Aidee wrote: > > > Keep that sort of langauge out of the header please. > > > It did cause offence > > > > > > Huh? It only said F~CK, now if it had said F U C K that'd've been > > something completely different ;) > > > > (Besides, it's just a word, there actually are worse things in the world > > going on, children dying, wars to grab some more oil, etc...) > > > > Regards, Rudy > > What kind of logic is that!?! > > In that case, I may as well go and steal a tv "because there are worse > things in the world going on", that makes it alright. >
"Ian Jarvis" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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driver
> versions etc.
>
> I've only just got a DSL connection, so I wanted to try F1RST and race
> online ( like VROC - GPL ), but the above nonsense is just p#ssing me off.
>
> IJ
This happens to me too but you know what I just gave up on it - no great
loss as F1-2002 is crap anyways.
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> System > > AMD XP1700+ > GF3 Ti200 > 512MB PC2700 ram > Windows XP Pro > > Fresh install of F12002 always works fine. > GTR & A147 mod works okay > > Then as soon as I try to install BPR mod, the whole lot ctds', even the > original F12002 install in a separate file stops working...... > > Has an FAQ evolved over what common thinks spook the mods, eg nvidiaGee whizz, I'm awfully sorry I offended this chap Aidee...........
( Aidee......F~CK OFF AND GO LEARN HOW TO SPELL 'LANGUAGE' )
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> On Wed, 4 Jun 2003 22:31:07 +0100, "Aidee" <[email hidden]> > reckoned: > > >Keep that sort of langauge out of the header please. > > > >It did cause offence > > > >AD > > > > Then you should have gone to public school instead of Derby School for > Boys. Or was it girls?
"Extrya" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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world
What kind of logic is that!?!
Saying a word is making the action of saying the word.
So the action of stealing something can be compared to the action of moving
your mouth/lungs etc to say a word, or moving your hands to write it...
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> > "Alex Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Ruud Dingemans <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:<bbm3gq$10b$[email hidden]>... > > > Aidee wrote: > > > > Keep that sort of langauge out of the header please. > > > > It did cause offence > > > > > > > > > Huh? It only said F~CK, now if it had said F U C K that'd've been > > > something completely different ;) > > > > > > (Besides, it's just a word, there actually are worse things in theQuoted text (18 lines)
> > > going on, children dying, wars to grab some more oil, etc...) > > > > > > Regards, Rudy > > > > What kind of logic is that!?! > > > > In that case, I may as well go and steal a tv "because there are worse > > things in the world going on", that makes it alright. > > > > What kind of logic is that!?! > > Equating *words* just words, with horrific *actions* > > Tying in stealing with something verbal or written is just > illogical... > >
"Nick" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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moving
> your mouth/lungs etc to say a word, or moving your hands to write it...
>
>
what the fuck ?
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> > "Extrya" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:3edf1f26$0$31513$[email hidden]... > > > > "Alex Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Ruud Dingemans <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:<bbm3gq$10b$[email hidden]>... > > > > Aidee wrote: > > > > > Keep that sort of langauge out of the header please. > > > > > It did cause offence > > > > > > > > > > > > Huh? It only said F~CK, now if it had said F U C K that'd've been > > > > something completely different ;) > > > > > > > > (Besides, it's just a word, there actually are worse things in the > world > > > > going on, children dying, wars to grab some more oil, etc...) > > > > > > > > Regards, Rudy > > > > > > What kind of logic is that!?! > > > > > > In that case, I may as well go and steal a tv "because there are worse > > > things in the world going on", that makes it alright. > > > > > > > What kind of logic is that!?! > > > > Equating *words* just words, with horrific *actions* > > > > Tying in stealing with something verbal or written is just > > illogical... > > > > > > What kind of logic is that!?! > > Saying a word is making the action of saying the word. > > So the action of stealing something can be compared to the action of
"Extrya" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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worse
What kind of logic is that!?!
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> > "Nick" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:bbptvi$c9reh$[email hidden]... > > > > "Extrya" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:3edf1f26$0$31513$[email hidden]... > > > > > > "Alex Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > Ruud Dingemans <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:<bbm3gq$10b$[email hidden]>... > > > > > Aidee wrote: > > > > > > Keep that sort of langauge out of the header please. > > > > > > It did cause offence > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Huh? It only said F~CK, now if it had said F U C K that'd've been > > > > > something completely different ;) > > > > > > > > > > (Besides, it's just a word, there actually are worse things in the > > world > > > > > going on, children dying, wars to grab some more oil, etc...) > > > > > > > > > > Regards, Rudy > > > > > > > > What kind of logic is that!?! > > > > > > > > In that case, I may as well go and steal a tv "because there areQuoted text (24 lines)
> > > > things in the world going on", that makes it alright. > > > > > > > > > > What kind of logic is that!?! > > > > > > Equating *words* just words, with horrific *actions* > > > > > > Tying in stealing with something verbal or written is just > > > illogical... > > > > > > > > > > What kind of logic is that!?! > > > > Saying a word is making the action of saying the word. > > > > So the action of stealing something can be compared to the action of > moving > > your mouth/lungs etc to say a word, or moving your hands to write it... > > > > > > what the fuck ? >In article <bbptvi$c9reh$[email hidden]>, Nick
<[email hidden]> writes
Ok, how about this. They are just words. How they affect your
sensitivity is something you have to come to terms with. If someone
steals your tv or car, or physically abuses you, that has a more real
affect on your life. Well, it certainly would my life.
If you choose to allow words to upset you, that shouldn't mean that
everyone has to not use those words anymore when you are in their
company. If they choose not to use those words then that is 'their'
choice, for whatever reasons 'they' decide.
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>> > > >> > > Huh? It only said F~CK, now if it had said F U C K that'd've been >> > > something completely different ;) >> > > >> > > (Besides, it's just a word, there actually are worse things in the >world >> > > going on, children dying, wars to grab some more oil, etc...) >> > > >> > > Regards, Rudy >> > >> > What kind of logic is that!?! >> > >> > In that case, I may as well go and steal a tv "because there are worse >> > things in the world going on", that makes it alright. >> > >> >> What kind of logic is that!?! >> >> Equating *words* just words, with horrific *actions* >> >> Tying in stealing with something verbal or written is just >> illogical... >> >> > >What kind of logic is that!?! > >Saying a word is making the action of saying the word. > >So the action of stealing something can be compared to the action of >moving >your mouth/lungs etc to say a word, or moving your hands to write it... >"Peter Ives" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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That's entirely true. To be honest I don't understand how people can get so
upset over the use of swearwords. So many people use them that they've lost
all meaning, except to little 15 year olds who think they're cool.
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> In article <bbptvi$c9reh$[email hidden]>, Nick > <[email hidden]> writes > Ok, how about this. They are just words. How they affect your > sensitivity is something you have to come to terms with. If someone > steals your tv or car, or physically abuses you, that has a more real > affect on your life. Well, it certainly would my life. > > If you choose to allow words to upset you, that shouldn't mean that > everyone has to not use those words anymore when you are in their > company. If they choose not to use those words then that is 'their' > choice, for whatever reasons 'they' decide.Certain things are socially acceptable or unacceptable based on agreed upon
standards. Just like we agree to not walk around naked. Some people are brought
up with those standards so firmly ingrained that they are uncomfortable hearing
curse words uttered in public loud enough for others to hear.
Bill
>>Ok, how about this. They are just words. How they affect yoursensitivity is something you have to come to terms with. If someone
steals your tv or car, or physically abuses you, that has a more real
affect on your life. Well, it certainly would my life.
If you choose to allow words to upset you, that shouldn't mean that
everyone has to not use those words anymore when you are in their
company. If they choose not to use those words then that is 'their'
choice, for whatever reasons 'they' decide.>>
I should know better to get involved in these arguments, but here goes...it
involves the concept of being a gentleman or lady...it involves restraint...a
time and a place..it...uh...oh nevermind...if I have to explain it to you,
you'll never understand.
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> if I have to explain it to you, you'll never understand.
Kangaroo Poo
>>Kangaroo Poo>>
Now THATS offensive!!! LOL!!!
Mike
I made the original comment and after reading all this nonsense i feel i
need to quantify a little.
You will never agree on a standard nor find a standard,we all have our own
standards and mine is obviously lower(or higher) than average.
I did put the word please at the end of my original post as i wasn't
demanding anything i was just making the poster aware.
What he/she does after that is their business.
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Nick wrote:
So if I said "you're fucked bigtime dude" that would mean you'd actually
be grabbed by some sixteen-odd sailors that very moment, and given the
old treatment up the backside? Encouraging logic *there* ;)
Regards, Rudy
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>>>>Huh? It only said F~CK, now if it had said F U C K that'd've been >>What kind of logic is that!?! >> >>Equating *words* just words, with horrific *actions* > > What kind of logic is that!?! > > Saying a word is making the action of saying the word.
> > > > > > > Keep that sort of langauge out of the header please.
> > > > > > > It did cause offence
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Huh? It only said F~CK, now if it had said F U C K that'd'vebeen
> > > > > > something completely different ;)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > (Besides, it's just a word, there actually are worse things inthe
it...
If you are Vulcan, i'd say that is 'fascinating'
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> > > world > > > > > > going on, children dying, wars to grab some more oil, etc...) > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, Rudy > > > > > > > > > > What kind of logic is that!?! > > > > > > > > > > In that case, I may as well go and steal a tv "because there are > worse > > > > > things in the world going on", that makes it alright. > > > > > > > > > > > > > What kind of logic is that!?! > > > > > > > > Equating *words* just words, with horrific *actions* > > > > > > > > Tying in stealing with something verbal or written is just > > > > illogical... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What kind of logic is that!?! > > > > > > Saying a word is making the action of saying the word. > > > > > > So the action of stealing something can be compared to the action of > > moving > > > your mouth/lungs etc to say a word, or moving your hands to writeQuoted text (8 lines)
> > > > > > > > > > what the fuck ? > > > > What kind of logic is that!?! >
> Certain things are socially acceptable or unacceptable based on agreedupon
> standards. Just like we agree to not walk around naked. Some people arebrought
> up with those standards so firmly ingrained that they are uncomfortablehearing
> curse words uttered in public loud enough for others to hear.
>
> Bill
then these people should be re-educated to live in the
naughties :)
"Ruud Dingemans" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> > Saying a word is making the action of saying the word.
>
>
> So if I said "you're fucked bigtime dude" that would mean you'd actually
> be grabbed by some sixteen-odd sailors that very moment, and given the
> old treatment up the backside? Encouraging logic *there* ;)
Hehe. I'll let it slide coz it's funny ;-)
On Fri, 6 Jun 2003 23:37:59 +0100, "Aidee" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>I made the original comment and after reading all this nonsense i feel i
>need to quantify a little.
>
>You will never agree on a standard nor find a standard,we all have our own
>standards and mine is obviously lower(or higher) than average.
>It's noy just as easy as that... words which are considered taboo in a certain
region may be completely harmless somewhere else. The first example that comes
to my mind is "coger" which in Spain and Peru just means "grabbing" or
"catching", but in Mexico and Argentina it means "f*cking", and they are all
Spanish-speaking countries...
Oddly enough, Mexicans use "cachar" (probably derived from "catching" from
their northern neighbors), which to Peruvians has exactly the same meaning that
"coger" has for them...
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