Silly GP4-Question

Hi all ! I think the solution to my question will be soo simple it will give me red cheeks... Here I go : I only seem to be able to shift down when I don't press the gas pedal. From time to time I miss a turn because I pressed the down shift button 5 times, while I'm still in 3rd gear... Is this a controller option ? Can it be turned off ? Thanx in advance all... BTW : Give GP4 another try, now that our 3d-cards are more powerful compared to when GP4 was released. It's really pretty good (despite the numerous flaws) Greetz, Franky

"Trick Dacy" wrote... > Hi all ! > <snip> > Is this a controller option ? > Can it be turned off ? Yes, it's called the gear/throttle link... a carry-over from the games' Amiga origins and the then popular 1-button joystick. I had it stick "on" as well, even though it was greyed out and read "off" in the controller setup. I solved the problem by copying over a control set from GP3. > Thanx in advance all... > > BTW : Give GP4 another try, now that our 3d-cards are > more powerful compared to when GP4 was released. > It's really pretty good (despite the numerous flaws) Yes, the game has the power to impress for a while... then the numerous idiosyncrasies and the fatally flawed force feedback begin to grate. It was never a performance issue. Jan. =---

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> Hi all ! > > I think the solution to my question will be soo simple it will give > me red cheeks... > > Here I go : > > I only seem to be able to shift down when I don't press the gas pedal. > From time to time I miss a turn because I pressed the down shift > button 5 times, while I'm still in 3rd gear... > > Is this a controller option ? > Can it be turned off ? > > Thanx in advance all... > > BTW : Give GP4 another try, now that our 3d-cards are more powerful > compared to when GP4 was released. > It's really pretty good (despite the numerous flaws) > > Greetz, > > Franky

There's an option box in the controller setup screen that says link gearchange to throttle (or something similar) uncheck the box. This is how it worked in GP2, 3 and 3 2000 season so it's probably the same in 4 ;) -- Ian P <email invalid due to spammers>

Hi Ian, As Jan said (previous reply) it's grayed out... :-( Is there another way ? Jan's solution (import it from GP3) is worth trying though... if everything else fails Thx for the reply, guys Franky "Ian P" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:gvNFa.35645$[email hidden]...

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> Trick Dacy wrote: > > Hi all ! > > > > I think the solution to my question will be soo simple it will give > > me red cheeks... > > > > Here I go : > > > > I only seem to be able to shift down when I don't press the gas pedal. > > From time to time I miss a turn because I pressed the down shift > > button 5 times, while I'm still in 3rd gear... > > > > Is this a controller option ? > > Can it be turned off ? > > > > Thanx in advance all... > > > > BTW : Give GP4 another try, now that our 3d-cards are more powerful > > compared to when GP4 was released. > > It's really pretty good (despite the numerous flaws) > > > > Greetz, > > > > Franky > > There's an option box in the controller setup screen that says link > gearchange to throttle (or something similar) uncheck the box. > This is how it worked in GP2, 3 and 3 2000 season so it's probably the

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> Hi Ian, > > As Jan said (previous reply) it's grayed out... :-( > Is there another way ? > Jan's solution (import it from GP3) is worth trying though... if > everything else fails > > Thx for the reply, guys > > Franky > > "Ian P" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:gvNFa.35645$[email hidden]... >> Trick Dacy wrote: >>> Hi all ! >>> >>> I think the solution to my question will be soo simple it will give >>> me red cheeks... >>> >>> Here I go : >>> >>> I only seem to be able to shift down when I don't press the gas >>> pedal. From time to time I miss a turn because I pressed the down >>> shift button 5 times, while I'm still in 3rd gear... >>> >>> Is this a controller option ? >>> Can it be turned off ? >>> >>> Thanx in advance all... >>> >>> BTW : Give GP4 another try, now that our 3d-cards are more powerful >>> compared to when GP4 was released. >>> It's really pretty good (despite the numerous flaws) >>> >>> Greetz, >>> >>> Franky >> >> There's an option box in the controller setup screen that says link >> gearchange to throttle (or something similar) uncheck the box. >> This is how it worked in GP2, 3 and 3 2000 season so it's probably >> the same in 4 ;) >> >> -- >> >> Ian P >> <email invalid due to spammers>

Are you using a preset controller config or have you made a new one ? If you select one of the presets I don't think you can change much. I don't have any of the GPx series installed anymore so I can't check anything. -- Ian P <email invalid due to spammers>

In article <euOFa.35673$[email hidden]>, Ian P <[email hidden]> writes

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>Trick Dacy wrote: >> Hi Ian, >> >> As Jan said (previous reply) it's grayed out... :-( >> Is there another way ? >> Jan's solution (import it from GP3) is worth trying though... if >> everything else fails >> >> Thx for the reply, guys >> >> Franky >> >> "Ian P" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:gvNFa.35645$[email hidden]... >>> Trick Dacy wrote: >>>> Hi all ! >>>> >>>> I think the solution to my question will be soo simple it will give >>>> me red cheeks... >>>> >>>> Here I go : >>>> >>>> I only seem to be able to shift down when I don't press the gas >>>> pedal. From time to time I miss a turn because I pressed the down >>>> shift button 5 times, while I'm still in 3rd gear... >>>> >>>> Is this a controller option ? >>>> Can it be turned off ? >>>> >>>> Thanx in advance all... >>>> >>>> BTW : Give GP4 another try, now that our 3d-cards are more powerful >>>> compared to when GP4 was released. >>>> It's really pretty good (despite the numerous flaws) >>>> >>>> Greetz, >>>> >>>> Franky >>> >>> There's an option box in the controller setup screen that says link >>> gearchange to throttle (or something similar) uncheck the box. >>> This is how it worked in GP2, 3 and 3 2000 season so it's probably >>> the same in 4 ;) >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Ian P >>> <email invalid due to spammers> > >Are you using a preset controller config or have you made a new one ? >If you select one of the presets I don't think you can change much. I don't >have any of the GPx series installed anymore so I can't check anything. >

If it's the same as GP3 then I would say you're right on that Ian. Presets hardly let you change anything. Franky really needs to select a user set, configure his own controller and then save it. -- Peter Ives (AKA Pete Ivington) Remove ALL_STRESS before replying via email If you know what's good for you, don't listen to me :) GPLRank Joystick -50.63 Wheel -21.77

Thanx guys, but I did ! I started with a 'not used' one... I've configured it for my momo.. I'll try again and make one from scratch... Thanx all ! "Peter Ives" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> In article <euOFa.35673$[email hidden]>, Ian P > <[email hidden]> writes > >Trick Dacy wrote: > >> Hi Ian, > >> > >> As Jan said (previous reply) it's grayed out... :-( > >> Is there another way ? > >> Jan's solution (import it from GP3) is worth trying though... if > >> everything else fails > >> > >> Thx for the reply, guys > >> > >> Franky > >> > >> "Ian P" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >> news:gvNFa.35645$[email hidden]... > >>> Trick Dacy wrote: > >>>> Hi all ! > >>>> > >>>> I think the solution to my question will be soo simple it will give > >>>> me red cheeks... > >>>> > >>>> Here I go : > >>>> > >>>> I only seem to be able to shift down when I don't press the gas > >>>> pedal. From time to time I miss a turn because I pressed the down > >>>> shift button 5 times, while I'm still in 3rd gear... > >>>> > >>>> Is this a controller option ? > >>>> Can it be turned off ? > >>>> > >>>> Thanx in advance all... > >>>> > >>>> BTW : Give GP4 another try, now that our 3d-cards are more powerful > >>>> compared to when GP4 was released. > >>>> It's really pretty good (despite the numerous flaws) > >>>> > >>>> Greetz, > >>>> > >>>> Franky > >>> > >>> There's an option box in the controller setup screen that says link > >>> gearchange to throttle (or something similar) uncheck the box. > >>> This is how it worked in GP2, 3 and 3 2000 season so it's probably > >>> the same in 4 ;) > >>> > >>> -- > >>> > >>> Ian P > >>> <email invalid due to spammers> > > > >Are you using a preset controller config or have you made a new one ? > >If you select one of the presets I don't think you can change much. I

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> >have any of the GPx series installed anymore so I can't check anything. > > > > If it's the same as GP3 then I would say you're right on that Ian. > Presets hardly let you change anything. Franky really needs to select a > user set, configure his own controller and then save it. > -- > Peter Ives (AKA Pete Ivington) > Remove ALL_STRESS before replying via email > If you know what's good for you, don't listen to me :) > GPLRank Joystick -50.63 Wheel -21.77

Guys I really cannot change it. The throttle link is on, it says and i cannot modify it... Help ! "Trick Dacy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8g2Ga.49223$[email hidden]...

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> Thanx guys, but I did ! > I started with a 'not used' one... > I've configured it for my momo.. > > I'll try again and make one from scratch... > > Thanx all ! > > "Peter Ives" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > In article <euOFa.35673$[email hidden]>, Ian P > > <[email hidden]> writes > > >Trick Dacy wrote: > > >> Hi Ian, > > >> > > >> As Jan said (previous reply) it's grayed out... :-( > > >> Is there another way ? > > >> Jan's solution (import it from GP3) is worth trying though... if > > >> everything else fails > > >> > > >> Thx for the reply, guys > > >> > > >> Franky > > >> > > >> "Ian P" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > >> news:gvNFa.35645$[email hidden]... > > >>> Trick Dacy wrote: > > >>>> Hi all ! > > >>>> > > >>>> I think the solution to my question will be soo simple it will give > > >>>> me red cheeks... > > >>>> > > >>>> Here I go : > > >>>> > > >>>> I only seem to be able to shift down when I don't press the gas > > >>>> pedal. From time to time I miss a turn because I pressed the down > > >>>> shift button 5 times, while I'm still in 3rd gear... > > >>>> > > >>>> Is this a controller option ? > > >>>> Can it be turned off ? > > >>>> > > >>>> Thanx in advance all... > > >>>> > > >>>> BTW : Give GP4 another try, now that our 3d-cards are more powerful > > >>>> compared to when GP4 was released. > > >>>> It's really pretty good (despite the numerous flaws) > > >>>> > > >>>> Greetz, > > >>>> > > >>>> Franky > > >>> > > >>> There's an option box in the controller setup screen that says link > > >>> gearchange to throttle (or something similar) uncheck the box. > > >>> This is how it worked in GP2, 3 and 3 2000 season so it's probably > > >>> the same in 4 ;) > > >>> > > >>> -- > > >>> > > >>> Ian P > > >>> <email invalid due to spammers> > > > > > >Are you using a preset controller config or have you made a new one ? > > >If you select one of the presets I don't think you can change much. I > don't > > >have any of the GPx series installed anymore so I can't check anything. > > > > > > > If it's the same as GP3 then I would say you're right on that Ian. > > Presets hardly let you change anything. Franky really needs to select a > > user set, configure his own controller and then save it. > > -- > > Peter Ives (AKA Pete Ivington) > > Remove ALL_STRESS before replying via email > > If you know what's good for you, don't listen to me :) > > GPLRank Joystick -50.63 Wheel -21.77 > >

I've found it myself ! :-) Apparently, it's a bug... or so I think... It seems that GP4 is fooled. I use Button1 on device A to shift up and Button2 on that same device to downshift. I've set them both to the same button (button1) which makes GP4 think the gear/throttle HAS to be linked... And then I've changed it into the original state again... which triggered s o m e t h i n g deep inside GP4;-) That did the trick... Maybe it was a coincidence... I don't know... it works ! :-) Greetz & thanx all, Franky "Trick Dacy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:jtMFa.48103$[email hidden]...

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> Hi all ! > > I think the solution to my question will be soo simple it will give me red > cheeks... > > Here I go : > > I only seem to be able to shift down when I don't press the gas pedal. > From time to time I miss a turn because I pressed the down shift button 5 > times, while I'm still in 3rd gear... > > Is this a controller option ? > Can it be turned off ? > > Thanx in advance all... > > BTW : Give GP4 another try, now that our 3d-cards are more powerful

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> to when GP4 was released. > It's really pretty good (despite the numerous flaws) > > Greetz, > > Franky > >

"Trick Dacy" wrote...

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> I've found it myself ! :-) > Apparently, it's a bug... or so I think... > It seems that GP4 is fooled. > I use Button1 on device A to shift up and > Button2 on that same device to downshift. > I've set them both to the same button > (button1) which makes GP4 think the gear/ > throttle HAS to be linked... > And then I've changed it into the original > state again... which triggered s o m e t > h i n g deep inside GP4;-) > > That did the trick... > > Maybe it was a coincidence... > I don't know... it works ! :-)

Not a coincidence... control setup in Crammond games has just grown counter intuitive over time. Jan. =---

hey guys glad to read of someone still playing GP4 I note that the AI are quite good at corners but they are hopeless at chasing me at the straights wonder if there is any edit to even things out a bit slow down their corners and speed up their straight line "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:yqNFa.48190$[email hidden]...

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> "Trick Dacy" wrote... > > Hi all ! > > <snip> > > Is this a controller option ? > > Can it be turned off ? > > Yes, it's called the gear/throttle link... a carry-over

from the games' > Amiga origins and the then popular 1-button joystick. > > I had it stick "on" as well, even though it was greyed outand read "off" in > the controller setup. I solved the problem by copying overa control set

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> from GP3. > > > Thanx in advance all... > > > > BTW : Give GP4 another try, now that our 3d-cards are > > more powerful compared to when GP4 was released. > > It's really pretty good (despite the numerous flaws) > > Yes, the game has the power to impress for a while... then

the numerous > idiosyncrasies and the fatally flawed force feedback beginto grate. It was > never a performance issue. > > Jan. > =--- > >

On Fri, 13 Jun 2003 15:02:27 +0800, "John" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>hey guys > >glad to read of someone still playing GP4 >I note that the AI are quite good at corners but they are >hopeless >at chasing me at the straights > >wonder if there is any edit to even things out a bit >slow down their corners and speed up their straight line

There's a car seutp editor to change the AI setups, which may smooth things for you. Dunno about changing their actual lines, but I'd imagine if you drop the wings and lengthen the gears it might even things out some. Jason

"John" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:bcbs5s$vmu$[email hidden]... > hey guys > > glad to read of someone still playing GP4 You'll find a lot more of those at http://www.lfrs.com. You can still join in. Bart Westra