Wheel question

Okay, to (re)open a can of worms. I think after 4 years of service my TSW2cup is dying. What makes me say that? After a couple of minutes of racing, there will suddenly be 0 throttle response. The rpms just drop to idle and nothing I can do can change that. I can exit the session, return and nothing. I can exit the sim, return, and I'll get another few minutes. I'm assuming there's nothing I can do (and I may very well be wrong) to fix this one. If there is, let me know. If not, what wheel should I get and what should I stay away from? Oh, my major use is for NASCAR Racing series sims, SCGT, and the occasional foray into road racing series (F1 3, F1 2001 [no, I don't have F1 4 or F1 2002] and Viper racing). Currently I've got an Athlon 800 (soon to be a 1.3 gig). Mike

"Mike Donnelly Jr" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Okay, to (re)open a can of worms. I think after 4 years of service my > TSW2cup is dying. What makes me say that? After a couple of minutes Aren't TSW's designed to be field-serviceable with common electrical parts and a soldering iron? -jde

On Fri, 13 Jun 2003 01:09:47 -0400, "J.D. Ellis" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>"Mike Donnelly Jr" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> Okay, to (re)open a can of worms. I think after 4 years of service my >> TSW2cup is dying. What makes me say that? After a couple of minutes > >Aren't TSW's designed to be field-serviceable with common electrical parts >and a soldering iron? > >-jde >

That would be fine if I knew what was up with it. Is it the pot? The wiring? Funny thing is the wheel section shows up fine. It's just the pedals that are screing up. Mike

Sounds like its time to replace the potentionmeters. You can get them easily from the TSW site. http://www.thomas-superwheel.com/prods.html http://www.thomas-superwheel.com/pots.html Sean "Mike Donnelly Jr" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Okay, to (re)open a can of worms. I think after 4 years of service my > TSW2cup is dying. What makes me say that? After a couple of minutes > of racing, there will suddenly be 0 throttle response. The rpms just > drop to idle and nothing I can do can change that. I can exit the > session, return and nothing. I can exit the sim, return, and I'll get > another few minutes. > > I'm assuming there's nothing I can do (and I may very well be wrong) > to fix this one. If there is, let me know. If not, what wheel should > I get and what should I stay away from? > > Oh, my major use is for NASCAR Racing series sims, SCGT, and the > occasional foray into road racing series (F1 3, F1 2001 [no, I don't > have F1 4 or F1 2002] and Viper racing). Currently I've got an Athlon > 800 (soon to be a 1.3 gig). > > Mike >

Sounds like the potentiometers need to be replaced. You can order new ones from the TSW site. http://www.thomas-superwheel.com/prods.html Sean "Mike Donnelly Jr" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Okay, to (re)open a can of worms. I think after 4 years of service my > TSW2cup is dying. What makes me say that? After a couple of minutes > of racing, there will suddenly be 0 throttle response. The rpms just > drop to idle and nothing I can do can change that. I can exit the > session, return and nothing. I can exit the sim, return, and I'll get > another few minutes. > > I'm assuming there's nothing I can do (and I may very well be wrong) > to fix this one. If there is, let me know. If not, what wheel should > I get and what should I stay away from? > > Oh, my major use is for NASCAR Racing series sims, SCGT, and the > occasional foray into road racing series (F1 3, F1 2001 [no, I don't > have F1 4 or F1 2002] and Viper racing). Currently I've got an Athlon > 800 (soon to be a 1.3 gig). > > Mike >

TSW has really good detailed installation instructions too. http://www.thomas-superwheel.com/pots.html "Four furry fiends" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:bcd8dc$hag$[email hidden]...

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> Sounds like the potentiometers need to be replaced. You can order new ones > from the TSW site. http://www.thomas-superwheel.com/prods.html > > Sean > > "Mike Donnelly Jr" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Okay, to (re)open a can of worms. I think after 4 years of service my > > TSW2cup is dying. What makes me say that? After a couple of minutes > > of racing, there will suddenly be 0 throttle response. The rpms just > > drop to idle and nothing I can do can change that. I can exit the > > session, return and nothing. I can exit the sim, return, and I'll get > > another few minutes. > > > > I'm assuming there's nothing I can do (and I may very well be wrong) > > to fix this one. If there is, let me know. If not, what wheel should > > I get and what should I stay away from? > > > > Oh, my major use is for NASCAR Racing series sims, SCGT, and the > > occasional foray into road racing series (F1 3, F1 2001 [no, I don't > > have F1 4 or F1 2002] and Viper racing). Currently I've got an Athlon > > 800 (soon to be a 1.3 gig). > > > > Mike > > > >

Mike Donnelly Jr wrote:

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> > Okay, to (re)open a can of worms. I think after 4 years of service my > TSW2cup is dying. What makes me say that? After a couple of minutes > of racing, there will suddenly be 0 throttle response. The rpms just > drop to idle and nothing I can do can change that. I can exit the > session, return and nothing. I can exit the sim, return, and I'll get > another few minutes. > > I'm assuming there's nothing I can do (and I may very well be wrong) > to fix this one. If there is, let me know. If not, what wheel should > I get and what should I stay away from? > > Oh, my major use is for NASCAR Racing series sims, SCGT, and the > occasional foray into road racing series (F1 3, F1 2001 [no, I don't > have F1 4 or F1 2002] and Viper racing). Currently I've got an Athlon > 800 (soon to be a 1.3 gig). > > Mike

Have you ever replaced the pots in your wheel? If you went 4 years with the originals...you did good! If that doesn't work, you can always send it back to Thomas for repairs. Hell, I'd do that in a heartbeat before I buy a new wheel. Actually, I have to do that. My TSW2 has suffered from chewing kitten syndrome, and the wires from the pedals to the wheel need to be replaced. Of course, she won't have anything to do with the wires on my old Logitech wheel!!! Gary

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> Okay, to (re)open a can of worms. I think after 4 years of service my > TSW2cup is dying. What makes me say that? After a couple of minutes > of racing, there will suddenly be 0 throttle response. The rpms just > drop to idle and nothing I can do can change that. I can exit the > session, return and nothing. I can exit the sim, return, and I'll get > another few minutes. > I'm assuming there's nothing I can do (and I may very well be wrong) > to fix this one. If there is, let me know. If not, what wheel should > I get and what should I stay away from? > Oh, my major use is for NASCAR Racing series sims, SCGT, and the > occasional foray into road racing series (F1 3, F1 2001 [no, I don't > have F1 4 or F1 2002] and Viper racing). Currently I've got an Athlon > 800 (soon to be a 1.3 gig). > Mike

Have you ever replaced the pots in your wheel? If you went 4 years with the originals...you did good! If that doesn't work, you can always send it back to Thomas for repairs. Hell, I'd do that in a heartbeat before I buy a new wheel. Actually, I have to do that. My TSW2 has suffered from chewing kitten syndrome, and the wires from the pedals to the wheel need to be replaced. Of course, she won't have anything to do with the wires on my old Logitech wheel!!! Gary

"Gary" <"the_g_man"@[excel.net]nospam.com> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Mike Donnelly Jr wrote: > > > > Okay, to (re)open a can of worms. I think after 4 years of service my > > TSW2cup is dying. What makes me say that? After a couple of minutes > > of racing, there will suddenly be 0 throttle response. The rpms just > > drop to idle and nothing I can do can change that. I can exit the > > session, return and nothing. I can exit the sim, return, and I'll get > > another few minutes. > > > > I'm assuming there's nothing I can do (and I may very well be wrong) > > to fix this one. If there is, let me know. If not, what wheel should > > I get and what should I stay away from? > > > > Oh, my major use is for NASCAR Racing series sims, SCGT, and the > > occasional foray into road racing series (F1 3, F1 2001 [no, I don't > > have F1 4 or F1 2002] and Viper racing). Currently I've got an Athlon > > 800 (soon to be a 1.3 gig). > > > > Mike > > Have you ever replaced the pots in your wheel? If you went 4 years with > the originals...you did good! If that doesn't work, you can always send > it back to Thomas for repairs. Hell, I'd do that in a heartbeat before I > buy a new wheel. Actually, I have to do that. My TSW2 has suffered from > chewing kitten syndrome, and the wires from the pedals to the wheel need > to be replaced. Of course, she won't have anything to do with the wires > on my old Logitech wheel!!! > > Gary

Amen Gary, outside of the pots, TSW wheels are warrantied for life IIRC. They were when I got my TSW 2 Cup. Oh and watch out for the kittens. I have some HUGE kittens (or so they think) that are nearly 2 now and they still like to knaw...

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> > "Gary" <"the_g_man"@[excel.net]nospam.com> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Mike Donnelly Jr wrote: > > > > > > Okay, to (re)open a can of worms. I think after 4 years of service my > > > TSW2cup is dying. What makes me say that? After a couple of minutes > > > of racing, there will suddenly be 0 throttle response. The rpms just > > > drop to idle and nothing I can do can change that. I can exit the > > > session, return and nothing. I can exit the sim, return, and I'll get > > > another few minutes. > > > > > > I'm assuming there's nothing I can do (and I may very well be wrong) > > > to fix this one. If there is, let me know. If not, what wheel should > > > I get and what should I stay away from? > > > > > > Oh, my major use is for NASCAR Racing series sims, SCGT, and the > > > occasional foray into road racing series (F1 3, F1 2001 [no, I don't > > > have F1 4 or F1 2002] and Viper racing). Currently I've got an Athlon > > > 800 (soon to be a 1.3 gig). > > > > > > Mike > > > > Have you ever replaced the pots in your wheel? If you went 4 years with > > the originals...you did good! If that doesn't work, you can always send > > it back to Thomas for repairs. Hell, I'd do that in a heartbeat before I > > buy a new wheel. Actually, I have to do that. My TSW2 has suffered from > > chewing kitten syndrome, and the wires from the pedals to the wheel need > > to be replaced. Of course, she won't have anything to do with the wires > > on my old Logitech wheel!!! > > > > Gary > > Amen Gary, outside of the pots, TSW wheels are warrantied for life IIRC. > They were when I got my TSW 2 Cup. Oh and watch out for the kittens. I have > some HUGE kittens (or so they think) that are nearly 2 now and they still > like to knaw...

When I get around to sending the TSW in for repairs, I'm going to ask for some kind of kitten-proofing for the wires. Then she can go back to chewing the s-video cables on my DVD player. I'm trying to fatten her up so she doesn't fit behind the TV anymore ;-) Gary

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> > > Okay, to (re)open a can of worms. I think after 4 years of service my > > > TSW2cup is dying. What makes me say that? After a couple of minutes > > > of racing, there will suddenly be 0 throttle response. The rpms just > > > drop to idle and nothing I can do can change that. I can exit the > > > session, return and nothing. I can exit the sim, return, and I'll get > > > another few minutes. > > > I'm assuming there's nothing I can do (and I may very well be wrong) > > > to fix this one. If there is, let me know. If not, what wheel should > > > I get and what should I stay away from? > > > Oh, my major use is for NASCAR Racing series sims, SCGT, and the > > > occasional foray into road racing series (F1 3, F1 2001 [no, I don't > > > have F1 4 or F1 2002] and Viper racing). Currently I've got an Athlon > > > 800 (soon to be a 1.3 gig). > > > Mike > > Have you ever replaced the pots in your wheel? If you went 4 years with > > the originals...you did good! If that doesn't work, you can always send > > it back to Thomas for repairs. Hell, I'd do that in a heartbeat before I > > buy a new wheel. Actually, I have to do that. My TSW2 has suffered from > > chewing kitten syndrome, and the wires from the pedals to the wheel need > > to be replaced. Of course, she won't have anything to do with the wires > > on my old Logitech wheel!!! > > Gary > Amen Gary, outside of the pots, TSW wheels are warrantied for life IIRC. > They were when I got my TSW 2 Cup. Oh and watch out for the kittens. I have > some HUGE kittens (or so they think) that are nearly 2 now and they still > like to knaw...

When I get around to sending the TSW in for repairs, I'm going to ask for some kind of kitten-proofing for the wires. Then she can go back to chewing the s-video cables on my DVD player. I'm trying to fatten her up so she doesn't fit behind the TV anymore ;-) Gary

"Gary" <"the_g_man"@[excel.net]nospam.com> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> SimRacer wrote: > > > > "Gary" <"the_g_man"@[excel.net]nospam.com> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Mike Donnelly Jr wrote: > > > > > > > > Okay, to (re)open a can of worms. I think after 4 years of service

my > > > > TSW2cup is dying. What makes me say that? After a couple ofminutes > > > > of racing, there will suddenly be 0 throttle response. The rpmsjust > > > > drop to idle and nothing I can do can change that. I can exit the > > > > session, return and nothing. I can exit the sim, return, and I'llget > > > > another few minutes. > > > > > > > > I'm assuming there's nothing I can do (and I may very well be wrong) > > > > to fix this one. If there is, let me know. If not, what wheelshould > > > > I get and what should I stay away from? > > > > > > > > Oh, my major use is for NASCAR Racing series sims, SCGT, and the > > > > occasional foray into road racing series (F1 3, F1 2001 [no, I don't > > > > have F1 4 or F1 2002] and Viper racing). Currently I've got anAthlon > > > > 800 (soon to be a 1.3 gig). > > > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > Have you ever replaced the pots in your wheel? If you went 4 yearswith > > > the originals...you did good! If that doesn't work, you can alwayssend > > > it back to Thomas for repairs. Hell, I'd do that in a heartbeat beforeI > > > buy a new wheel. Actually, I have to do that. My TSW2 has sufferedfrom > > > chewing kitten syndrome, and the wires from the pedals to the wheelneed > > > to be replaced. Of course, she won't have anything to do with thewires > > > on my old Logitech wheel!!! > > > > > > Gary > > > > Amen Gary, outside of the pots, TSW wheels are warrantied for life IIRC. > > They were when I got my TSW 2 Cup. Oh and watch out for the kittens. Ihave > > some HUGE kittens (or so they think) that are nearly 2 now and theystill

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> > like to knaw... > > When I get around to sending the TSW in for repairs, I'm going to ask > for some kind of kitten-proofing for the wires. Then she can go back to > chewing the s-video cables on my DVD player. I'm trying to fatten her up > so she doesn't fit behind the TV anymore ;-) > > Gary

LOL! Spoken like a true feline owner. As for the knawing though, I found that that �" corrogated 'conduit' looking stuff that folks use to neaten up their wiring messes, will last long enough to catch any problems before they start. At least they chew on it for a while before they get to the actual wiring inside it. My boys have calmed down some with the knawing, but still try to squeeze behind things, like your TV/DVD player situation. I got my 'wire loom' or 'conduit' stuff at Radio Shack IIRC. Cheap, and worth the effort IMO.

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> > LOL! Spoken like a true feline owner. > > As for the knawing though, I found that that �" corrogated 'conduit' looking > stuff that folks use to neaten up their wiring messes, will last long enough > to catch any problems before they start. At least they chew on it for a > while before they get to the actual wiring inside it. My boys have calmed > down some with the knawing, but still try to squeeze behind things, like > your TV/DVD player situation. I got my 'wire loom' or 'conduit' stuff at > Radio Shack IIRC. Cheap, and worth the effort IMO.

That's exactly what I was thinking about getting. Thanks for the heads-up. Gary

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> LOL! Spoken like a true feline owner. > As for the knawing though, I found that that ?" corrogated 'conduit' looking > stuff that folks use to neaten up their wiring messes, will last long enough > to catch any problems before they start. At least they chew on it for a > while before they get to the actual wiring inside it. My boys have calmed > down some with the knawing, but still try to squeeze behind things, like > your TV/DVD player situation. I got my 'wire loom' or 'conduit' stuff at > Radio Shack IIRC. Cheap, and worth the effort IMO.

That's exactly what I was thinking about getting. Thanks for the heads-up. Gary