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June 16, 2003 - The Formula One Association used to sell the F1 game license to everyone who wanted some of the action. Ya know - like a pimp does with a cheap whore? Well no more of that, for the F1A is moving up in the world and is only going to give Sony a license to make F1 games this year. Just like it was back in the day of the Playstation. Sony Computer Entertainment Europe is pleased to announce the continuation of the multi-million selling Formula One series. The only game to be officially licensed by Formula One Administration Ltd, FORMULA ONE 2003 will be released in July this year. Benefiting from a brand new deal signed with Formula One Administration Ltd, the FORMULA ONE franchise will now be exclusive to SCEE and to PlayStation 2 for the next four years, ensuring unparalleled accuracy and the closest experience to being an F1 driver you'll get on any platform. President of Sony Computer Entertainment Europe, Chris Deering said "This four year exclusive relationship is the basis for a very exciting partnership between the world's leading motorsport and the most successful video game platform on the planet. Together I believe we will create a totally new consumer game experience that combines the power of PlayStation 2 with the exhilaration and spectacle of FORMULA ONE and short of pulling on gloves and a helmet this is as close to being in the drivers seat as you're going to get."

We're lucky Sony even lets Bernie run his silly little F1 races in the RW. "TY" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ddoHa.239238$[email hidden]... > > June 16, 2003 - The Formula One Association used to sell the F1 gamelicense > to everyone who wanted some of the action. Ya know - like a pimp does witha > cheap whore? Well no more of that, for the F1A is moving up in the worldand > is only going to give Sony a license to make F1 games this year. Just like > it was back in the day of the Playstation. > > Sony Computer Entertainment Europe is pleased to announce thecontinuation > of the multi-million selling Formula One series. The only game to be > officially licensed by Formula One Administration Ltd, FORMULA ONE 2003will

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> be released in July this year. > Benefiting from a brand new deal signed with Formula One Administration > Ltd, the FORMULA ONE franchise will now be exclusive to SCEE and to > PlayStation 2 for the next four years, ensuring unparalleled accuracy and > the closest experience to being an F1 driver you'll get on any platform. > > President of Sony Computer Entertainment Europe, Chris Deering said

"This > four year exclusive relationship is the basis for a very exciting > partnership between the world's leading motorsport and the most successful > video game platform on the planet. Together I believe we will create a > totally new consumer game experience that combines the power ofPlayStation > 2 with the exhilaration and spectacle of FORMULA ONE and short of pullingon > gloves and a helmet this is as close to being in the drivers seat asyou're > going to get." > >

Steve Smith wrote: > > We're lucky Sony even lets Bernie run his silly little F1 races in the RW. ROFL, now that's a comment I'll remember Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

Goy Larsen <[email hidden]> wrote in news:[email hidden]:

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> > > Steve Smith wrote: >> >> We're lucky Sony even lets Bernie run his silly little F1 races in >> the RW. >

I wonder if it's a case of Sony buying exclusivity or everyone else refusing to ante up in the high stakes licensing game.. dave henrie

Dave Henrie wrote: > I wonder if it's a case of Sony buying exclusivity or everyone else > refusing to ante up in the high stakes licensing game.. Probably the latter. As we know, EA dropped their license quite some time ago, since they refused to pay the atrocious price. Well, perhaps this will lead to simulations developed about other racing series.

Ed Solheim wrote: > What's there to lose? > > I mean - it's only F1; a dull "one make" series. Yepp, a Ferrari is a Minardi is a Williams.

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> > Seriously. I think it's good that Sony sit on their exclusive license for > years to come. This means that other developers will have to find other - > *far* more interessting series to simulate. > > Hopefully this will open the door for a new golden age of simulators, as the > developers won't be able to sell any old crap - just because it got a fancy > name(license) on it.

Yepp, because those mysterious developers can't produce a crappy F1 arcade game anymore, they'll now produce a quality <whatever> sim. l8er ronny

What's there to lose? I mean - it's only F1; a dull "one make" series. Seriously. I think it's good that Sony sit on their exclusive license for years to come. This means that other developers will have to find other - *far* more interessting series to simulate. Hopefully this will open the door for a new golden age of simulators, as the developers won't be able to sell any old crap - just because it got a fancy name(license) on it. -- ed_ http://rascar.racesimcentral.com --------------------------------------- $10 say Petter Solberg wins the 2003 WRC

"Ed Solheim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3ef1dd56$[email hidden]...

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> What's there to lose? > > I mean - it's only F1; a dull "one make" series. > > Seriously. I think it's good that Sony sit on their exclusive license for > years to come. This means that other developers will have to find other - > *far* more interessting series to simulate. > > Hopefully this will open the door for a new golden age of simulators, as

the > developers won't be able to sell any old crap - just because it got afancy

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> name(license) on it. > > > -- > ed_ > http://rascar.racesimcentral.com > --------------------------------------- > $10 say Petter Solberg wins the 2003 WRC

"That was the most incredible experience of my life!"-- Jeff Gordon immediately after parking an F1 car for the first time. David G Fisher

Your point being? "David G Fisher" wrote: > > "That was the most incredible experience of my life!"-- Jeff Gordon > immediately after parking an F1 car for the first time. > > David G Fisher -- ed_

David G Fisher wrote: > "That was the most incredible experience of my life!"-- Jeff Gordon > immediately after parking an F1 car for the first time. What was particularly exciting about this parking maneuver? Did he have to reverse in? Or was it a bit of parallel parking? Was he just being sarcastic? Where you there?

Ed Solheim wrote:

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> > What's there to lose? > > I mean - it's only F1; a dull "one make" series. > > Seriously. I think it's good that Sony sit on their exclusive license for > years to come. This means that other developers will have to find other - > *far* more interessting series to simulate. > > Hopefully this will open the door for a new golden age of simulators, as the > developers won't be able to sell any old crap - just because it got a fancy > name(license) on it.

AussieV8's !!! Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

Jeez-oh, Goy, "Aussia V8s!" is yer answer to everything. If yer wife was looking for a vibrator, what....oops, pardon me, I feel like a criminal. "Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > > Ed Solheim wrote: > > > > What's there to lose? > > > > I mean - it's only F1; a dull "one make" series. > > > > Seriously. I think it's good that Sony sit on their exclusive license

for > > years to come. This means that other developers will have to findother - > > *far* more interessting series to simulate. > > > > Hopefully this will open the door for a new golden age of simulators, asthe > > developers won't be able to sell any old crap - just because it got afancy

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> > name(license) on it. > > AussieV8's !!! > > > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy > "goyl at nettx dot no" > > http://www.theuspits.com > > "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" > --Groucho Marx--

Steve Smith wrote: > > Jeez-oh, Goy, "Aussia V8s!" is yer answer to everything. If yer wife was > looking for a vibrator, what....oops, pardon me, I feel like a criminal. One, it's AussiE V8's !!! with an "e" and 3 (three) exclamation marks, correct spelling is always important in matters like these and I feel 3 (three) exclamation marks properly conveys my desire for a sim modeling this wonderful racing series, less than 3 (three) doesn't quite get the point across and more than 3 (three) is way out according to a friend of mine who apparently knows these things Two, I'm very much single :-) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

Ed Solheim wrote:

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> Ronald Stoehr" said: > > >>>I mean - it's only F1; a dull "one make" series. >> >>Yepp, a Ferrari is a Minardi is a Williams. > > > Can you win a race in a Minardi?

So you agree it's not a one make series? > > If they painted all the F1 cars black - I'll bet only a handfull of people > would be able to tell 'em a part. Same with NASCAR. What was your point again? l8er ronny

Ronald Stoehr" said: > > I mean - it's only F1; a dull "one make" series. > > Yepp, a Ferrari is a Minardi is a Williams. Can you win a race in a Minardi? If they painted all the F1 cars black - I'll bet only a handfull of people would be able to tell 'em a part. -- ed_

Sure. You just have to have all the front runners suffer mechanicals /contact. It's fairly easy. On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 16:41:13 +0200, "Ed Solheim" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Ronald Stoehr" said: > >> > I mean - it's only F1; a dull "one make" series. >> >> Yepp, a Ferrari is a Minardi is a Williams. > >Can you win a race in a Minardi? > >If they painted all the F1 cars black - I'll bet only a handfull of people >would be able to tell 'em a part.

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> Ed Solheim wrote: > > Ronald Stoehr" said: > > > > > >>>I mean - it's only F1; a dull "one make" series. > >> > >>Yepp, a Ferrari is a Minardi is a Williams. > > > > > > Can you win a race in a Minardi? > > So you agree it's not a one make series? > > > > > If they painted all the F1 cars black - I'll bet only a handfull of

people > > would be able to tell 'em a part. > > Same with NASCAR. What was your point again? > > l8er > ronny It's the same point that a group of guys here always try to make. Things were better in the old days of F1. David G Fisher

Of COURSE it was, David! Every generation says exactly the same thing because during the years of THEIR greatest interest (usually from early adolescence through the thirties) it was "better", simply because it was all they experienced. My 85 year-old father looks back with great fondness to the pre-war years, when he was a teenager. A 65 year-old friend has the 1950's as his favourite era. For me - 57 - I dive into the 1960's with great affection. And so it will ever be - and not only for motor-sport but for EVERYTHING that we associate with those years of our youth. Bruce. > It's the same point that a group of guys here always try to make. > > Things were better in the old days of F1.

Bruce Kennewell wrote: > > My 85 year-old father looks back with great fondness to the pre-war years, > when he was a teenager. > A 65 year-old friend has the 1950's as his favourite era. > For me - 57 - I dive into the 1960's with great affection. 57.....Hah !!! Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

David G Fisher wrote: > > It's the same point that a group of guys here always try to make. > > Things were better in the old days of F1. The tracks were better, the racing was better, the cars were more distinctive, and there was no corporate bs surrounding it. Face it , David, your are just an F1 fanboy. Plus you are only happy if MS wins. Which forces me to conclude: You are not a true motor racing fan! I, on the other hand, am happy to watch any series as long as it is entertaining. I hold no particular formula of driver in great reverence. That makes me a true fan.

"Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3ef4e631$[email hidden]...

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> Of COURSE it was, David! > Every generation says exactly the same thing because during the years of > THEIR greatest interest (usually from early adolescence through the > thirties) it was "better", simply because it was all they experienced. > > My 85 year-old father looks back with great fondness to the pre-war years, > when he was a teenager. > A 65 year-old friend has the 1950's as his favourite era. > For me - 57 - I dive into the 1960's with great affection. > > And so it will ever be - and not only for motor-sport but for EVERYTHING > that we associate with those years of our youth. > > Bruce.

There is a saying up here in Canada. The best hockey team that ever played is the one you were cheering for when you were 12: Go Leafs DavErb

"Ed Solheim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3ef46de9$[email hidden]...

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> Ronald Stoehr" said: > > > > I mean - it's only F1; a dull "one make" series. > > > > Yepp, a Ferrari is a Minardi is a Williams. > > Can you win a race in a Minardi?

Yes, now "Mr. F1" owns them ;-) Nick

"Ronald Stoehr" said: > > Can you win a race in a Minardi? > > So you agree it's not a one make series? I said it's a "one make" series. Meaning that only a very few cars have a hope of ever getting close to winning. Did you know that if you bet money om MS to win a race these days - you barely brake even if he does!. >> If they painted all the F1 cars black - I'll bet only a handfull ofpeople >> would be able to tell 'em a part. > > Same with NASCAR. What was your point again? NASCAR *is* a "one make" series - they even run common templates for the cars! Nontheless there's no telling how might win the next race - nor how going to win the series way before it's even started... F1 has come so far away from a sport that it's sickening. Do you have any idea what it takes to run a F1 teams these days? How's 150 people doing R&D 24 hours a day (running 3 shifts a day) for 365 days a years.. No wonder they got budgets well over $300 million a year.. Is that what you call a sport? And to top it all of - it's even dull. There's 4 seconds of action on the start, some minor fibble aorund the pit-stops, and thats it... Heck they even complain 'cause they can't get passed cars they're about to lap! GOD! I miss the "old" days! Mansell, Rosberg, Piquet, Senna - hell even Prost and Hill! Back then people still had personalities and acted like themself, not a bunch of corporate puppets. 'Seen Raikkonen being interviewed? Man, the guy is so scared of saying something that might upset Dennis - it hurts to watch! Atleast Mika had some sense of self-irony. -- ed_ http://rascar.racesimcentral.com --------------------------------------- $10 say Petter Solberg wins the 2003 WRC

In article <[email hidden]>, Goy Larsen <[email hidden]> writes: >Two, I'm very much single :-) > Hmm...I wonder why...<g> Eldred -- Help find missing child: Tatianna Ashley Chillcutt from Michigan(info on my homepage) Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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> > In article <[email hidden]>, Goy Larsen > <[email hidden]> writes: > > >Two, I'm very much single :-) > > > > Hmm...I wonder why...<g>

Me too :-) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

I wish I could be just like you. David G Fisher "Gerry Aitken" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> David G Fisher wrote: > > > > > It's the same point that a group of guys here always try to make. > > > > Things were better in the old days of F1. > > The tracks were better, the racing was better, the cars were more > distinctive, and there was no corporate bs surrounding it. > > Face it , David, your are just an F1 fanboy. Plus you are only happy if > MS wins. Which forces me to conclude: > > You are not a true motor racing fan! > > I, on the other hand, am happy to watch any series as long as it is > entertaining. I hold no particular formula of driver in great reverence. > That makes me a true fan. >

David G Fisher wrote: > I wish I could be just like you. You're an F1/MS fanboy, nothing more, nothing...well just nothing really.

Ed Solheim wrote:

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> "Ronald Stoehr" said: > > >>>Can you win a race in a Minardi? >> >>So you agree it's not a one make series? > > > I said it's a "one make" series. Meaning that only a very few cars have a > hope of ever getting close to winning. > Did you know that if you bet money om MS to win a race these days - you > barely brake even if he does!.

Oh, the language barrier. F1 is not a "one make" series, but one team dominated it for a couple of years now. It'll change, probably as soon as MS retires... ;)

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> > >>>If they painted all the F1 cars black - I'll bet only a handfull of >> > people > >>>would be able to tell 'em a part. >> >>Same with NASCAR. What was your point again? > > > NASCAR *is* a "one make" series - they even run common templates for the > cars! Nontheless there's no telling how might win the next race - nor how > going to win the series way before it's even started...

There are different car makers (not the brand names) involved, as far as I know. BTW, that Jeff Gordon domination in 199? was really something. If a team is good AND lucky, any series is able to become a "one make" series. l8er ronny

Absolutely! Two sims I'd buy if someone would just develop them: - Indy 500 (1909 - 2003): historical models of both track and cars for every year there was a race - SCCA Challenge: most of the tracks have already been done, and a lot of the cars as well. > > Hopefully this will open the door for a new golden age of simulators, as the > developers won't be able to sell any old crap - just because it got a fancy > name(license) on it.

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Hogarth Kramer) writes: >Absolutely! Two sims I'd buy if someone would just develop them: > - Indy 500 (1909 - 2003): historical models of both track and cars >for every year there was a race I would most *definitely* get this one. But, can you imagine taking 6 hours to run the 1911 race...? :-) > - SCCA Challenge: most of the tracks have already been done, and a >lot of the cars as well. I don't know a lot about the SCCA series, but I'd probably be interested. Eldred -- Help find missing child: Tatianna Ashley Chillcutt from Michigan(info on my homepage) Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

> I mean - it's only F1; a dull "one make" series. I'm still waiting for my brand new "Ferrari-Mercedes-BMW-Jaguar-Renault-Honda-Toyota" to be delivered ;-)