Replacement for "Winston" Sponsorship in NASCAR!

Wow....I came in here tonight expecting to see this pasted all over the newsgroup.....and nothing! I went back 8 days.....just in case my info was stale? Still nothing. Word is the official announcement will come from NASCAR on this Thursday (press conference at Infineon). The word also is its a 10-year deal! I know who it is, but without any thing in here on the topic, I think I will shut up about it. Tom

"Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:tqwHa.967079$OV.1073272@rwcrnsc54:

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> Wow....I came in here tonight expecting to see this pasted all over > the newsgroup.....and nothing! I went back 8 days.....just in case my > info was stale? Still nothing. > > Word is the official announcement will come from NASCAR on this > Thursday (press conference at Infineon). The word also is its a > 10-year deal! > > I know who it is, but without any thing in here on the topic, I think > I will shut up about it. > > Tom > >

boring...they are just being realistic and finding another source for cash when the full weight of the anti-tabacco advertising kicks in. guess we'll just have to refer to them as 'cup' cars now. dave henrie

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> Wow....I came in here tonight expecting to see this pasted all over the > newsgroup.....and nothing! I went back 8 days.....just in case my info was > stale? Still nothing. > > Word is the official announcement will come from NASCAR on this Thursday > (press conference at Infineon). The word also is its a 10-year deal! > > I know who it is, but without any thing in here on the topic, I think I will > shut up about it. > > Tom

I think everyone that cares knows it's Nextel. It's been know for about a year that this was coming, it was just a matter of waiting for the official announcement.

> Word is the official announcement will come from NASCAR on this Thursday > (press conference at Infineon). The word also is its a 10-year deal! I heard they were going to do it at Daytona. MadDAWG

> I know who it is, but without any thing in here on the topic, I think Iwill > shut up about it. LOL Like you are holding such a big secret

From what I've read, Visa has also made a $80m bid for "the cup"... http://www.autosport.com/newsitem.asp?id=23052&s=54 -- ed_ "John Simmons" said: > I think everyone that cares knows it's Nextel. It's been know for > about a year that this was coming, it was just a matter of waiting > for the official announcement.

My question is that RJR just signed a 5 year deal last year for the sponsorship so does this mean the Nextel thing kicks in after the Winston name expires in 4 more years or will this allow RJR to back out of the deal they signed? -Tim "Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:tqwHa.967079$OV.1073272@rwcrnsc54... > Wow....I came in here tonight expecting to see this pasted all over the > newsgroup.....and nothing! I went back 8 days.....just in case my infowas > stale? Still nothing. > > Word is the official announcement will come from NASCAR on this Thursday > (press conference at Infineon). The word also is its a 10-year deal! > > I know who it is, but without any thing in here on the topic, I think Iwill > shut up about it. > > Tom > >

RJR is backing out after this year and asked NASCAR to find another sponsor. "Tim Miser" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > My question is that RJR just signed a 5 year deal last year for the > sponsorship so does this mean the Nextel thing kicks in after the Winston > name expires in 4 more years or will this allow RJR to back out of thedeal

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> they signed? > > -Tim > > "Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:tqwHa.967079$OV.1073272@rwcrnsc54... > > Wow....I came in here tonight expecting to see this pasted all over the > > newsgroup.....and nothing! I went back 8 days.....just in case my info > was > > stale? Still nothing. > > > > Word is the official announcement will come from NASCAR on this Thursday > > (press conference at Infineon). The word also is its a 10-year deal! > > > > I know who it is, but without any thing in here on the topic, I think I > will > > shut up about it. > > > > Tom > > > > > >

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> RJR is backing out after this year and asked NASCAR to find another sponsor. > > "Tim Miser" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > My question is that RJR just signed a 5 year deal last year for the > > sponsorship so does this mean the Nextel thing kicks in after the Winston > > name expires in 4 more years or will this allow RJR to back out of the > deal > > they signed?

It probably costs a lot less to sponsor other racing series, and they can only do one.

"Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:tqwHa.967079$OV.1073272@rwcrnsc54... > Wow....I came in here tonight expecting to see this pasted all over the > newsgroup.....and nothing! I went back 8 days.....just in case my infowas > stale? Still nothing. > > Word is the official announcement will come from NASCAR on this Thursday > (press conference at Infineon). The word also is its a 10-year deal! > > I know who it is, but without any thing in here on the topic, I think Iwill > shut up about it. > > Tom > > Who in the heck wants to follow something called the 'Nextel Cup'? LOL! I dunno, I thought the PowerAde thing over in the NHRA was going to be weird, but it seems to be doing okay, I guess I can learn to call it Nextel or Visa or whomever ends up with it. I say Craftsman should have stepped up to 'Cup' and left the trucks to find a sponsor. I think a tool sponsor would be better suited than a cell phone outfit that may or may not survive the next 5 years or may get bought or absorbed. I had heard Visa wanted in too, but then we'd have too many rednecks with run-up Visa bills....no, it should be a tool company or something else remotely inoolved with the sport IMO. (Back when Winston bought in, most of the drivers were still smoking cigs in the cars while racing. How many use their Visa cards or cell phones while racing now? :-) LOL!

Well I hope it's not Aaron's Rent-to-Own, because calling it "Aaron's Cup" sounds a little weird... "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > guess we'll just have to refer to them as 'cup' cars now. > dave henrie

I'll be happy to see the auto sims for "smokers only" go by the wayside. -Tim "SimRacer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:5JLHa.111001$[email hidden]...

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> > "Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:tqwHa.967079$OV.1073272@rwcrnsc54... > > Wow....I came in here tonight expecting to see this pasted all over the > > newsgroup.....and nothing! I went back 8 days.....just in case my info > was > > stale? Still nothing. > > > > Word is the official announcement will come from NASCAR on this Thursday > > (press conference at Infineon). The word also is its a 10-year deal! > > > > I know who it is, but without any thing in here on the topic, I think I > will > > shut up about it. > > > > Tom > > > > > > Who in the heck wants to follow something called the 'Nextel Cup'? LOL! > > I dunno, I thought the PowerAde thing over in the NHRA was going to be > weird, but it seems to be doing okay, I guess I can learn to call it

Nextel > or Visa or whomever ends up with it. > > I say Craftsman should have stepped up to 'Cup' and left the trucks tofind

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> a sponsor. I think a tool sponsor would be better suited than a cell phone > outfit that may or may not survive the next 5 years or may get bought or > absorbed. I had heard Visa wanted in too, but then we'd have too many > rednecks with run-up Visa bills....no, it should be a tool company or > something else remotely inoolved with the sport IMO. (Back when Winston > bought in, most of the drivers were still smoking cigs in the cars while > racing. How many use their Visa cards or cell phones while racing now? :-) > LOL! > >

> Supposedly one of the biggest hangups with making Nextel the primary > sponsor is they wanted exclusivity of cellular advertising. Meaning, > if they're paying $80 million for the deal, they don't want TV cameras > focusing on the #31 Cingular Wireless car or the #12 Alltel car. RJR > Reynolds never had to worry about advertising Phillip Morris products > on their dime. It'll be interesting to see what happens. Alltel and Cingular have been grandfathered into the contract. No new wireless companies can sponsor cars and if Alltel or Cingular leave they can't come back.

On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 11:33:12 -0700, "Tim Miser" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>My question is that RJR just signed a 5 year deal last year for the >sponsorship so does this mean the Nextel thing kicks in after the Winston >name expires in 4 more years or will this allow RJR to back out of the deal >they signed? > >-Tim >

My understanding is that *if* NASCAR finds a replacement ready for next year, it goes into effect next year and allows Winston to drop the sponsorship. If they can't, then Winston will fulfill however much of their contract (up to filling it completely) remains until NASCAR can get a new sponsor. Due to the popularity of WC racing, we can see that it won't be too much longer... For better or worse. After the 'wonderful TV deal' which has turned out to make for worse racing and a decrease in sponsored cars (who would have thought we'd see the day that Rousch would have any trouble getting sponsors on his cars - I'm mainly talking about his BGN cars, but Jeff Burton just lost *his* sponsor?!??!) in WC and BGN, I'm beginning to get worried. Then again, nothing I can do other than change the channel if it gets real bad. Mike

On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 21:27:29 GMT, "SimRacer" >racing. How many use their Visa cards or cell phones while racing now? :-) >LOL! Supposedly one of the biggest hangups with making Nextel the primary sponsor is they wanted exclusivity of cellular advertising. Meaning, if they're paying $80 million for the deal, they don't want TV cameras focusing on the #31 Cingular Wireless car or the #12 Alltel car. RJR Reynolds never had to worry about advertising Phillip Morris products on their dime. It'll be interesting to see what happens.

"Matt" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 21:27:29 GMT, "SimRacer" > >racing. How many use their Visa cards or cell phones while racing now?:-)

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> >LOL! > > Supposedly one of the biggest hangups with making Nextel the primary > sponsor is they wanted exclusivity of cellular advertising. Meaning, > if they're paying $80 million for the deal, they don't want TV cameras > focusing on the #31 Cingular Wireless car or the #12 Alltel car. RJR > Reynolds never had to worry about advertising Phillip Morris products > on their dime. It'll be interesting to see what happens. >

Yeah, like Fox doesn't already catch enough crap for NOT showing cars sponsored by compaines that don't buy airtime on their network during the race broadcasts. I can see this Nextel wrinkle being a big deal if it comes to pass as you have opined here.

I had heard Starbucks was going to replace Winston and then of course it would be the Coffee Cup Series.LOL Seriously ,I'm sure the new politically correct Nascar is glad to not be affiliated with Winston anymore as smoking is no longer cool Steve Paradise

Pepsi is giving away a billion $$ in a contest. Maybe Mike Helton can chug a few bottles and win. Hmmm. Nascar Helton Cup series for the next decade.....

Hi Guys.... Despite what a few of you suggested, I was not trying to be cute, a "know-it-all" or a "troll" about this information. Considering the source of the information, it was possible that it wasn't widely known (the specifics) and when I came in here and saw no recent discussion about it......I thought maybe I should not reveal what I had been told earlier in the day (in a meeting, at Sears Point....included were two SMI management and three NASCAR officials). I actually thought about just deleting the post.....but I thought maybe a few people do know...and if the correct name is revealed in the string......then great! My "purpose" was to get the news out and garner some discussion about it....and that would have worked just as well as my saying the company name (and it did). And, to those of you who took this wonderful opportunity to get a few "jabs" in at me (again).......I say this to you, "Bite me!" LOL....... Later guys.... Tom "Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:tqwHa.967079$OV.1073272@rwcrnsc54... > Wow....I came in here tonight expecting to see this pasted all over the > newsgroup.....and nothing! I went back 8 days.....just in case my infowas > stale? Still nothing. > > Word is the official announcement will come from NASCAR on this Thursday > (press conference at Infineon). The word also is its a 10-year deal! > > I know who it is, but without any thing in here on the topic, I think Iwill > shut up about it. > > Tom > >

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> And, to those of you who took this wonderful opportunity to get a few > "jabs" in at me (again).......I say this to you, "Bite me!" > LOL....... > > >

Sorry Tom I wasn't even aware it was you who posted it...just read it and replied...I don't have time for little details like the "to:" and "from'" boxes :) we'll all know for sure Thursday morning 10am East Coast USA time. dave henrie

For those of us outside the USA, no doubt they will continue to be known by the same term as we've used for the past umpteen years - "NASCAR" cars. Bruce.