OT: New WinXP Pro Installation - Questions

For those of you running Windows XP: I just installed XP Pro on a brand new hard drive. I'm taking it very slowly and carefully, as I want to maintain the usability of my present Win98SE hard drive for as long as possible. No apps have been installed yet (except for what came with XP) and by some miracle, the Internet connection automatically configured itself, and I somehow got my e-mail account re-set up. (Thank Goodness). I have a couple of basic questions. Obviously, a priority is getting my racing sims to run properly (GPL, WinVROC, GTR2002, NR2003, etc, etc). 1. Is it best to have your apps/sims installed on an NTFS partition or should I stick with FAT32? 2. During XP install, I set up a 20 GIG partition (NTFS) which I plan to use strictly for the operating system and (perhaps) GoBack3. The hard drive and this partition were installed thru the XP installation, but it never asked me to "install" the remaining partition. Consequently, XP only sees my 20 Gig partition and not my remaining 60 Gigs of space on this hard drive. How do I get it to see the rest of the drive? 3. I eventually will re-install all of my apps/sims onto this hard drive. Then I want to use my old hard drive as a secondary hard drive. To make this task easier, I'd like to just install patches, etc from my old hard drive rather than have to search fro them on the Net and re-downlaod them all. But this old drive has Win98 installed on it. Can this old drive be set-up as non-bootable and still have Win98 installed on it? 4. Finally, is it a good idea to run a dual OS system? (XP and Win98SE). If so, how easy is it for me to have XP on this new drive, but still be able to boot on occassion thru Win98SE from the old drive? Or do both OS's need to reside on the same physical drive? (I hope that question is clear.....) Thanks for any help with this. Any thoughts on how I'm setting the system up (pro or con) would also be appreciated. Win XP installation went quite smoothly (except for not recognizing the 2nd partition, and not being able to print -- probably need a new driver, I guess). I've put the old drive back in the PC now, so that I have a fully operational system in the meantime again. FYI, my system is an Epox 8Kha+ mobo, Radeon 9700 Pro, 512 Megs RAM, SoundBlaster Live, Logi MOMO Force wheel, TSW pedals, Cable Modem. Thanks! Bert

For those of you running Windows XP: I just installed XP Pro on a brand new hard drive. I'm taking it very slowly and carefully, as I want to maintain the usability of my present Win98SE hard drive for as long as possible. No apps have been installed yet (except for what came with XP) and by some miracle, the Internet connection automatically configured itself, and I somehow got my e-mail account re-set up. (Thank Goodness). I have a couple of basic questions. Obviously, a priority is getting my racing sims to run properly (GPL, WinVROC, GTR2002, NR2003, etc, etc). 1. Is it best to have your apps/sims installed on an NTFS partition or should I stick with FAT32? 2. During XP install, I set up a 20 GIG partition (NTFS) which I plan to use strictly for the operating system and (perhaps) GoBack3. The hard drive and this partition were installed thru the XP installation, but it never asked me to "install" the remaining partition. Consequently, XP only sees my 20 Gig partition and not my remaining 60 Gigs of space on this hard drive. How do I get it to see the rest of the drive? 3. I eventually will re-install all of my apps/sims onto this hard drive. Then I want to use my old hard drive as a secondary hard drive. To make this task easier, I'd like to just install patches, etc from my old hard drive rather than have to search fro them on the Net and re-downlaod them all. But this old drive has Win98 installed on it. Can this old drive be set-up as non-bootable and still have Win98 installed on it? 4. Finally, is it a good idea to run a dual OS system? (XP and Win98SE). If so, how easy is it for me to have XP on this new drive, but still be able to boot on occassion thru Win98SE from the old drive? Or do both OS's need to reside on the same physical drive? (I hope that question is clear.....) Thanks for any help with this. Any thoughts on how I'm setting the system up (pro or con) would also be appreciated. Win XP installation went quite smoothly (except for not recognizing the 2nd partition, and not being able to print -- probably need a new driver, I guess). I've put the old drive back in the PC now, so that I have a fully operational system in the meantime again. FYI, my system is an Epox 8Kha+ mobo, Radeon 9700 Pro, 512 Megs RAM, SoundBlaster Live, Logi MOMO Force wheel, TSW pedals, Cable Modem. Thanks! Bert

You were the only reason that it didnt go 100% smooth. Some of those questions you should have asked before hand. I hope there is a cure for your apparent fear. AD

A quick follow-up question -- Should I or should I not download/install the Service Pack for WinXP? Any other essential downloads? Thanks! BRH wrote:

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> For those of you running Windows XP: I just installed XP Pro on a brand > new hard drive. I'm taking it very slowly and carefully, as I want to > maintain the usability of my present Win98SE hard drive for as long as > possible. No apps have been installed yet (except for what came with > XP) and by some miracle, the Internet connection automatically > configured itself, and I somehow got my e-mail account re-set up. > (Thank Goodness). I have a couple of basic questions. > > Obviously, a priority is getting my racing sims to run properly (GPL, > WinVROC, GTR2002, NR2003, etc, etc). > > 1. Is it best to have your apps/sims installed on an NTFS partition or > should I stick with FAT32? > 2. During XP install, I set up a 20 GIG partition (NTFS) which I plan > to use strictly for the operating system and (perhaps) GoBack3. The > hard drive and this partition were installed thru the XP installation, > but it never asked me to "install" the remaining partition. > Consequently, XP only sees my 20 Gig partition and not my remaining 60 > Gigs of space on this hard drive. How do I get it to see the rest of > the drive? > 3. I eventually will re-install all of my apps/sims onto this hard > drive. Then I want to use my old hard drive as a secondary hard drive. > To make this task easier, I'd like to just install patches, etc from my > old hard drive rather than have to search fro them on the Net and > re-downlaod them all. But this old drive has Win98 installed on it. > Can this old drive be set-up as non-bootable and still have Win98 > installed on it? > 4. Finally, is it a good idea to run a dual OS system? (XP and > Win98SE). If so, how easy is it for me to have XP on this new drive, > but still be able to boot on occassion thru Win98SE from the old drive? > Or do both OS's need to reside on the same physical drive? (I hope that > question is clear.....) > > Thanks for any help with this. Any thoughts on how I'm setting the > system up (pro or con) would also be appreciated. Win XP installation > went quite smoothly (except for not recognizing the 2nd partition, and > not being able to print -- probably need a new driver, I guess). I've > put the old drive back in the PC now, so that I have a fully operational > system in the meantime again. > > FYI, my system is an Epox 8Kha+ mobo, Radeon 9700 Pro, 512 Megs RAM, > SoundBlaster Live, Logi MOMO Force wheel, TSW pedals, Cable Modem. > > Thanks! > > Bert

A quick follow-up question -- Should I or should I not download/install the Service Pack for WinXP? Any other essential downloads? Thanks!

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> For those of you running Windows XP: I just installed XP Pro on a brand > new hard drive. I'm taking it very slowly and carefully, as I want to > maintain the usability of my present Win98SE hard drive for as long as > possible. No apps have been installed yet (except for what came with > XP) and by some miracle, the Internet connection automatically > configured itself, and I somehow got my e-mail account re-set up. > (Thank Goodness). I have a couple of basic questions. > Obviously, a priority is getting my racing sims to run properly (GPL, > WinVROC, GTR2002, NR2003, etc, etc). > 1. Is it best to have your apps/sims installed on an NTFS partition or > should I stick with FAT32? > 2. During XP install, I set up a 20 GIG partition (NTFS) which I plan > to use strictly for the operating system and (perhaps) GoBack3. The > hard drive and this partition were installed thru the XP installation, > but it never asked me to "install" the remaining partition. > Consequently, XP only sees my 20 Gig partition and not my remaining 60 > Gigs of space on this hard drive. How do I get it to see the rest of > the drive? > 3. I eventually will re-install all of my apps/sims onto this hard > drive. Then I want to use my old hard drive as a secondary hard drive. > To make this task easier, I'd like to just install patches, etc from my > old hard drive rather than have to search fro them on the Net and > re-downlaod them all. But this old drive has Win98 installed on it. > Can this old drive be set-up as non-bootable and still have Win98 > installed on it? > 4. Finally, is it a good idea to run a dual OS system? (XP and > Win98SE). If so, how easy is it for me to have XP on this new drive, > but still be able to boot on occassion thru Win98SE from the old drive? > Or do both OS's need to reside on the same physical drive? (I hope that > question is clear.....) > Thanks for any help with this. Any thoughts on how I'm setting the > system up (pro or con) would also be appreciated. Win XP installation > went quite smoothly (except for not recognizing the 2nd partition, and > not being able to print -- probably need a new driver, I guess). I've > put the old drive back in the PC now, so that I have a fully operational > system in the meantime again. > FYI, my system is an Epox 8Kha+ mobo, Radeon 9700 Pro, 512 Megs RAM, > SoundBlaster Live, Logi MOMO Force wheel, TSW pedals, Cable Modem. > Thanks! > Bert

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> For those of you running Windows XP: I just installed XP Pro on a > brand new hard drive. I'm taking it very slowly and carefully, as I > want to maintain the usability of my present Win98SE hard drive for > as long as possible. No apps have been installed yet (except for > what came with XP) and by some miracle, the Internet connection > automatically configured itself, and I somehow got my e-mail account > re-set up. (Thank Goodness). I have a couple of basic questions. > > Obviously, a priority is getting my racing sims to run properly (GPL, > WinVROC, GTR2002, NR2003, etc, etc). > > 1. Is it best to have your apps/sims installed on an NTFS partition > or should I stick with FAT32?

I prefer NTFS totally , more stable and secure. All my hard drives on XP Pro are formatted NTFS, all my games play fine on it.

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> 2. During XP install, I set up a 20 GIG partition (NTFS) which I plan > to use strictly for the operating system and (perhaps) GoBack3. The > hard drive and this partition were installed thru the XP installation, > but it never asked me to "install" the remaining partition. > Consequently, XP only sees my 20 Gig partition and not my remaining 60 > Gigs of space on this hard drive. How do I get it to see the rest of > the drive?

20 gb is probably a little large for the system parition, however if you do use GoBack on it, then perhaps not. Be sure and disable system restore in XP should you elect to go with GoBack. When you installed XP, you paritioned and formatted your C partition. That is now your system parition. Now, in Windows, go into contol panel, administrative services, and computer management. Click on disk management. Here you will see your 20 gb system parition marked as active and healthy, and you will see the remainder of your hard drive space marked as unallocated. You can parition and format it right from here, in XP's disk management.

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> 3. I eventually will re-install all of my apps/sims onto this hard > drive. Then I want to use my old hard drive as a secondary hard > drive. To make this task easier, I'd like to just install patches, > etc from my old hard drive rather than have to search fro them on the > Net and re-downlaod them all. But this old drive has Win98 installed > on it. Can this old drive be set-up as non-bootable and still have > Win98 installed on it? > 4. Finally, is it a good idea to run a dual OS system? (XP and > Win98SE). If so, how easy is it for me to have XP on this new drive, > but still be able to boot on occassion thru Win98SE from the old > drive? Or do both OS's need to reside on the same physical drive? (I > hope that question is clear.....)

I have never run dual boot, and never really needed too. However, it is my understanding should you want to do this, you need to install 98 first on the main partition, then install XP on another. But yes, you can slave the old drive to the new one, keeping all the files on it, and use it to store, move, copy, etc data files. Any programs on it would have to be reinstalled.

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> > Thanks for any help with this. Any thoughts on how I'm setting the > system up (pro or con) would also be appreciated. Win XP installation > went quite smoothly (except for not recognizing the 2nd partition, and > not being able to print -- probably need a new driver, I guess). I've > put the old drive back in the PC now, so that I have a fully > operational system in the meantime again. > > FYI, my system is an Epox 8Kha+ mobo, Radeon 9700 Pro, 512 Megs RAM, > SoundBlaster Live, Logi MOMO Force wheel, TSW pedals, Cable Modem. > > Thanks! > > Bert

Sounds like your doing fine. As long as you don't have any games or apps that won't run on XP, I would go ahead and make the system full XP with NTFS formatting. Be sure and check for any XP updates to programs and apps you might want to reinstall. Go ahead and partition and reformatt your remaining unallocated space. Then, make sure you have the lastest drivers installed for your hardware. Then, go to windows update and download and install the updates, if you see a SP1 ( which means it was not inluded in your version of XP cd), then download and instal it first, then go get the remaining updates. Good luck, -- Don Burnette remove clothes when replying via email

Thanks a lot, Don! Don Burnette wrote:

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> See inline. > > > For those of you running Windows XP: I just installed XP Pro on a > > brand new hard drive. I'm taking it very slowly and carefully, as I > > want to maintain the usability of my present Win98SE hard drive for > > as long as possible. No apps have been installed yet (except for > > what came with XP) and by some miracle, the Internet connection > > automatically configured itself, and I somehow got my e-mail account > > re-set up. (Thank Goodness). I have a couple of basic questions. > > > > Obviously, a priority is getting my racing sims to run properly (GPL, > > WinVROC, GTR2002, NR2003, etc, etc). > > > > 1. Is it best to have your apps/sims installed on an NTFS partition > > or should I stick with FAT32? > > I prefer NTFS totally , more stable and secure. All my hard drives on XP Pro > are formatted NTFS, all my games play fine on it. > > > 2. During XP install, I set up a 20 GIG partition (NTFS) which I plan > > to use strictly for the operating system and (perhaps) GoBack3. The > > hard drive and this partition were installed thru the XP installation, > > but it never asked me to "install" the remaining partition. > > Consequently, XP only sees my 20 Gig partition and not my remaining 60 > > Gigs of space on this hard drive. How do I get it to see the rest of > > the drive? > > 20 gb is probably a little large for the system parition, however if you do > use GoBack on it, then perhaps not. Be sure and disable system restore in XP > should you elect to go with GoBack. > When you installed XP, you paritioned and formatted your C partition. That > is now your system parition. Now, in Windows, go into contol panel, > administrative services, and computer management. Click on disk management. > Here you will see your 20 gb system parition marked as active and healthy, > and you will see the remainder of your hard drive space marked as > unallocated. You can parition and format it right from here, in XP's disk > management. > > > 3. I eventually will re-install all of my apps/sims onto this hard > > drive. Then I want to use my old hard drive as a secondary hard > > drive. To make this task easier, I'd like to just install patches, > > etc from my old hard drive rather than have to search fro them on the > > Net and re-downlaod them all. But this old drive has Win98 installed > > on it. Can this old drive be set-up as non-bootable and still have > > Win98 installed on it? > > 4. Finally, is it a good idea to run a dual OS system? (XP and > > Win98SE). If so, how easy is it for me to have XP on this new drive, > > but still be able to boot on occassion thru Win98SE from the old > > drive? Or do both OS's need to reside on the same physical drive? (I > > hope that question is clear.....) > > I have never run dual boot, and never really needed too. However, it is my > understanding should you want to do this, you need to install 98 first on > the main partition, then install XP on another. > But yes, you can slave the old drive to the new one, keeping all the files > on it, and use it to store, move, copy, etc data files. Any programs on it > would have to be reinstalled. > > > > > Thanks for any help with this. Any thoughts on how I'm setting the > > system up (pro or con) would also be appreciated. Win XP installation > > went quite smoothly (except for not recognizing the 2nd partition, and > > not being able to print -- probably need a new driver, I guess). I've > > put the old drive back in the PC now, so that I have a fully > > operational system in the meantime again. > > > > FYI, my system is an Epox 8Kha+ mobo, Radeon 9700 Pro, 512 Megs RAM, > > SoundBlaster Live, Logi MOMO Force wheel, TSW pedals, Cable Modem. > > > > Thanks! > > > > Bert > > Sounds like your doing fine. As long as you don't have any games or apps > that won't run on XP, I would go ahead and make the system full XP with NTFS > formatting. Be sure and check for any XP updates to programs and apps you > might want to reinstall. > Go ahead and partition and reformatt your remaining unallocated space. Then, > make sure you have the lastest drivers installed for your hardware. Then, go > to windows update and download and install the updates, if you see a SP1 ( > which means it was not inluded in your version of XP cd), then download and > instal it first, then go get the remaining updates. > > Good luck, > > -- > Don Burnette > > remove clothes when replying via email

Thanks a lot, Don!

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> See inline. > > For those of you running Windows XP: I just installed XP Pro on a > > brand new hard drive. I'm taking it very slowly and carefully, as I > > want to maintain the usability of my present Win98SE hard drive for > > as long as possible. No apps have been installed yet (except for > > what came with XP) and by some miracle, the Internet connection > > automatically configured itself, and I somehow got my e-mail account > > re-set up. (Thank Goodness). I have a couple of basic questions. > > Obviously, a priority is getting my racing sims to run properly (GPL, > > WinVROC, GTR2002, NR2003, etc, etc). > > 1. Is it best to have your apps/sims installed on an NTFS partition > > or should I stick with FAT32? > I prefer NTFS totally , more stable and secure. All my hard drives on XP Pro > are formatted NTFS, all my games play fine on it. > > 2. During XP install, I set up a 20 GIG partition (NTFS) which I plan > > to use strictly for the operating system and (perhaps) GoBack3. The > > hard drive and this partition were installed thru the XP installation, > > but it never asked me to "install" the remaining partition. > > Consequently, XP only sees my 20 Gig partition and not my remaining 60 > > Gigs of space on this hard drive. How do I get it to see the rest of > > the drive? > 20 gb is probably a little large for the system parition, however if you do > use GoBack on it, then perhaps not. Be sure and disable system restore in XP > should you elect to go with GoBack. > When you installed XP, you paritioned and formatted your C partition. That > is now your system parition. Now, in Windows, go into contol panel, > administrative services, and computer management. Click on disk management. > Here you will see your 20 gb system parition marked as active and healthy, > and you will see the remainder of your hard drive space marked as > unallocated. You can parition and format it right from here, in XP's disk > management. > > 3. I eventually will re-install all of my apps/sims onto this hard > > drive. Then I want to use my old hard drive as a secondary hard > > drive. To make this task easier, I'd like to just install patches, > > etc from my old hard drive rather than have to search fro them on the > > Net and re-downlaod them all. But this old drive has Win98 installed > > on it. Can this old drive be set-up as non-bootable and still have > > Win98 installed on it? > > 4. Finally, is it a good idea to run a dual OS system? (XP and > > Win98SE). If so, how easy is it for me to have XP on this new drive, > > but still be able to boot on occassion thru Win98SE from the old > > drive? Or do both OS's need to reside on the same physical drive? (I > > hope that question is clear.....) > I have never run dual boot, and never really needed too. However, it is my > understanding should you want to do this, you need to install 98 first on > the main partition, then install XP on another. > But yes, you can slave the old drive to the new one, keeping all the files > on it, and use it to store, move, copy, etc data files. Any programs on it > would have to be reinstalled. > > Thanks for any help with this. Any thoughts on how I'm setting the > > system up (pro or con) would also be appreciated. Win XP installation > > went quite smoothly (except for not recognizing the 2nd partition, and > > not being able to print -- probably need a new driver, I guess). I've > > put the old drive back in the PC now, so that I have a fully > > operational system in the meantime again. > > FYI, my system is an Epox 8Kha+ mobo, Radeon 9700 Pro, 512 Megs RAM, > > SoundBlaster Live, Logi MOMO Force wheel, TSW pedals, Cable Modem. > > Thanks! > > Bert > Sounds like your doing fine. As long as you don't have any games or apps > that won't run on XP, I would go ahead and make the system full XP with NTFS > formatting. Be sure and check for any XP updates to programs and apps you > might want to reinstall. > Go ahead and partition and reformatt your remaining unallocated space. Then, > make sure you have the lastest drivers installed for your hardware. Then, go > to windows update and download and install the updates, if you see a SP1 ( > which means it was not inluded in your version of XP cd), then download and > instal it first, then go get the remaining updates. > Good luck, > -- > Don Burnette > remove clothes when replying via email

Your quite welcome Bert, lemme know if you run across any snags.

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> Thanks a lot, Don! > > > Don Burnette wrote: > >> See inline. >> >>> For those of you running Windows XP: I just installed XP Pro on a >>> brand new hard drive. I'm taking it very slowly and carefully, as I >>> want to maintain the usability of my present Win98SE hard drive for >>> as long as possible. No apps have been installed yet (except for >>> what came with XP) and by some miracle, the Internet connection >>> automatically configured itself, and I somehow got my e-mail account >>> re-set up. (Thank Goodness). I have a couple of basic questions. >>> >>> Obviously, a priority is getting my racing sims to run properly >>> (GPL, WinVROC, GTR2002, NR2003, etc, etc). >>> >>> 1. Is it best to have your apps/sims installed on an NTFS partition >>> or should I stick with FAT32? >> >> I prefer NTFS totally , more stable and secure. All my hard drives >> on XP Pro are formatted NTFS, all my games play fine on it. >> >>> 2. During XP install, I set up a 20 GIG partition (NTFS) which I >>> plan >>> to use strictly for the operating system and (perhaps) GoBack3. The >>> hard drive and this partition were installed thru the XP >>> installation, but it never asked me to "install" the remaining >>> partition. >>> Consequently, XP only sees my 20 Gig partition and not my remaining >>> 60 Gigs of space on this hard drive. How do I get it to see the >>> rest of >>> the drive? >> >> 20 gb is probably a little large for the system parition, however if >> you do use GoBack on it, then perhaps not. Be sure and disable >> system restore in XP should you elect to go with GoBack. >> When you installed XP, you paritioned and formatted your C >> partition. That is now your system parition. Now, in Windows, go >> into contol panel, administrative services, and computer management. >> Click on disk management. Here you will see your 20 gb system >> parition marked as active and healthy, and you will see the >> remainder of your hard drive space marked as unallocated. You can >> parition and format it right from here, in XP's disk management. >> >>> 3. I eventually will re-install all of my apps/sims onto this hard >>> drive. Then I want to use my old hard drive as a secondary hard >>> drive. To make this task easier, I'd like to just install patches, >>> etc from my old hard drive rather than have to search fro them on >>> the >>> Net and re-downlaod them all. But this old drive has Win98 >>> installed >>> on it. Can this old drive be set-up as non-bootable and still have >>> Win98 installed on it? >>> 4. Finally, is it a good idea to run a dual OS system? (XP and >>> Win98SE). If so, how easy is it for me to have XP on this new >>> drive, >>> but still be able to boot on occassion thru Win98SE from the old >>> drive? Or do both OS's need to reside on the same physical drive? >>> (I hope that question is clear.....) >> >> I have never run dual boot, and never really needed too. However, it >> is my understanding should you want to do this, you need to install >> 98 first on the main partition, then install XP on another. >> But yes, you can slave the old drive to the new one, keeping all the >> files on it, and use it to store, move, copy, etc data files. Any >> programs on it would have to be reinstalled. >> >>> >>> Thanks for any help with this. Any thoughts on how I'm setting the >>> system up (pro or con) would also be appreciated. Win XP >>> installation went quite smoothly (except for not recognizing the >>> 2nd partition, and not being able to print -- probably need a new >>> driver, I guess). I've put the old drive back in the PC now, so >>> that I have a fully >>> operational system in the meantime again. >>> >>> FYI, my system is an Epox 8Kha+ mobo, Radeon 9700 Pro, 512 Megs RAM, >>> SoundBlaster Live, Logi MOMO Force wheel, TSW pedals, Cable Modem. >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> Bert >> >> Sounds like your doing fine. As long as you don't have any games or >> apps that won't run on XP, I would go ahead and make the system full >> XP with NTFS formatting. Be sure and check for any XP updates to >> programs and apps you might want to reinstall. >> Go ahead and partition and reformatt your remaining unallocated >> space. Then, make sure you have the lastest drivers installed for >> your hardware. Then, go to windows update and download and install >> the updates, if you see a SP1 ( which means it was not inluded in >> your version of XP cd), then download and instal it first, then go >> get the remaining updates. >> >> Good luck, >> >> -- >> Don Burnette >> >> remove clothes when replying via email