Hey guys,
What's with the front wheels locking up big time everytime I hit
the brakes in F1C. Never had this problem in F12002 Anybody have an
explanation ? Thanks StP
"The Laughing Gnome" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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At 250kph the ammount of downforce on the car offers so much grip - it's
nearly IMPOSSIBLE to lock brakes.
Locking brakes should only really kick in at 200 - 150kph and below
(depending on circuit)
Doug
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> On 25 Jun 2003 20:07:16 -0700, [email hidden] (StP) wrote: > > >Hey guys, > > What's with the front wheels locking up big time everytime I hit > >the brakes in F1C. Never had this problem in F12002 Anybody have an > >explanation ? Thanks StP > > Check the sensitivity settings. But, I would think the wheels would > lock up if you hit the brakes at 250kph so maybe F1C is correct in > this behavoir and F12002 wasn't.Why do you think MS gets $18 mil a year to drive the damn things?
"StP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Hey guys,
> What's with the front wheels locking up big time everytime I hit
> the brakes in F1C. Never had this problem in F12002 Anybody have an
> explanation ? Thanks StP
$18 mil? I think he gets that just for the first 3 fly away races?
"Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Why do you think MS gets $18 mil a year to drive the damn things? > > "StP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Hey guys, > > What's with the front wheels locking up big time everytime I hit > > the brakes in F1C. Never had this problem in F12002 Anybody have an > > explanation ? Thanks StP > >On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 11:59:22 +0100, "Doug Ellison"
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>Locking brakes should only really kick in at 200 - 150kph and below
>(depending on circuit)
Unless you're Michael Schumacher at Silverstone 99.
Jason
> >Locking brakes should only really kick in at 200 - 150kph and below
> >(depending on circuit)
>
> Unless you're Michael Schumacher at Silverstone 99.
When he had brake failure and locked the rears, because no braking effort
was going to the front wheels.
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 18:24:45 +0100, "Nick" <[email hidden]>
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>When he had brake failure and locked the rears, because no braking effort
>was going to the front wheels.
Oh yeah, I wasn't saying it was a driver error or anything, but it
shows that it is at least physically possible for the brakes to be
locked in an F1 car at high speed. I'd imagine you'd have to be daft
(or Gilles Villeneuve, who was just crazy) to do it normally.
If someone were to make force feedback pedals where the brake pedal
actually provided realistic resistance, I think we'd find the brake
locking models in F1C and the Papy sims to be pretty damn good, as
you'd actually be pressing very hard by the time you came close to
locking them up.
Jason
"Jason Moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Ah, I understand. It is funny though how some people in this newsgroup think
that aerodynamic downforce is some kind of magical infinite force at high
speed, isn't it?
At the approximate top speed of a Formula One car on most tracks
(180-200mph), the downforce generated by the wings amounts to roughly two
times the weight of the car. The total mass of the car has to be above 600kg
(605kg during qualifying), so at top speed, the apparent mass of the car is
1800kg, or just under 2 tons. Not as much as most people think. Slam on
those CI brakes (I mean, *really* stand on them) and the wheels will lock.
> If someone were to make force feedback pedals where the brake pedal
> actually provided realistic resistance, I think we'd find the brake
> locking models in F1C and the Papy sims to be pretty damn good, as
> you'd actually be pressing very hard by the time you came close to
> locking them up.
That would be cool, but right now I'd settle for any old pressure-sensitive
brake pedal down there, rather than travel-sensitive.
Nick
