Started 5th, finished 2nd. My only incident was overtaking Dave, and
he scooted up the track to protect his position. I lost 3 spots as a
result, but regained those positions when Dave came down on Mark
Seery (Mark won the race) while they were side-by-side in the turn on
the next-to-last lap.
I think overall, I did a pretty fair job of staying in the top five
for the entire event.
"John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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: Started 5th, finished 2nd. My only incident was overtaking Dave, and
: he scooted up the track to protect his position. I lost 3 spots as a
: result, but regained those positions when Dave came down on Mark
: Seery (Mark won the race) while they were side-by-side in the turn on
: the next-to-last lap.
:
: I think overall, I did a pretty fair job of staying in the top five
: for the entire event.
:
Guess I will join the "official" thread.
I know I said this before, now I believe it. The RASCAR race servers run
"Looser" than papy or offline. I raced this track off and on all week and I
only spun the first few times. I was in races (yes, they were fun) online
and off and did not spin out, did not even really have any trouble holding
my line with the exception of going out of three too high on occasion.
Today's race was a shambles for me, my car did not seem to have the horse
power on restarts that other cars around me did, I was in a major headone in
I believe the third caution when two car past me while I was slowing to
start part II of the incident and I then plowed right into the side of
someone, after that i had my second spin which at this point I believe was
damage related since the replay shows me loose right from the green till I
spun. I am sorry to whomever it was I hit in the side on five coming out of
that incident (fifth yellow?), you slowed suddenly and I was accelerating
behind you, ltb went high and I had to go low, bounced back up off the apron
and into your side. Was hoping I would bounce back up beyond you :-(
I really think it would have been a different race if we could have only
gotten past the first couple of laps and stretched out a little. I know
when I was on the high side in three it was no fun at all. John, I really
liked your whiplash move past the 55 on that restart to pass me, where you
get that HP from anyway??
All in all, I finished another race and this one was on the lead lap, even
managed a top ten.
Daytona should be fun!
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McWhom
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I didn't! :D
"mcwhom" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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>John, I really liked your whiplash move past the 55 on that restart to passme,
In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden]
says...
It was purely a combination of avoiding causing a wreck, and taking
advantage of your hesitation. :)
I think my passing today was flawless (at least on my part).
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> I didn't! :D > > "mcwhom" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > >John, I really liked your whiplash move past the 55 on that restart to pass > me, > > >I don't know *why* I hesitated...being overly cautious, maybe.
But it was a nice move; you shot past me like a Saturn V. :)
Bruce.
"John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> It was purely a combination of avoiding causing a wreck, and taking
> advantage of your hesitation. :)
"Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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: I don't know *why* I hesitated...being overly cautious, maybe.
: But it was a nice move; you shot past me like a Saturn V. :)
:
: Bruce.
:
: "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
: news:[email hidden]...
: > It was purely a combination of avoiding causing a wreck, and taking
: > advantage of your hesitation. :)
:
:
because I didn't have the horses and you were dicing behind trying to get
around me as well as John. You were bouncing around a bit more and John is
right, I saw you go down to/near the apron in my mirror and I must have let
off the gas when I did, John whipped around you and accelerated past me
"like a SaturnV". I thought for a little bit there I would be able to
follow and draft off him but uhm, that didn't work out :-( Right after
that is when I ended up on the outside of three I believe and rode the rail
around. Like I said before I am unhappy I didn't do better, BUT it is the
best I have done. Guess I should like yellow flags :)
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McWhom
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I like close driving. When nobody's bouncing off other cars, it can
be quite exciting.
:)
In article <3efe6962$[email hidden]>, [email hidden]
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> I don't know *why* I hesitated...being overly cautious, maybe. > But it was a nice move; you shot past me like a Saturn V. :) > > Bruce. > > "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > It was purely a combination of avoiding causing a wreck, and taking > > advantage of your hesitation. :) > > >What a miserable race :)
I think it's safe to say we won't be doing THAT again for a while!
I didn't cause any incidents, but I'll be damned if I didn't manage to get
caught up in just about _every_ single one of them. At the end, I only had
185 tops down the straight and had to settle for one of my worst finishes of
the year.
On to Daytona...
-Larry
"John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Started 5th, finished 2nd. My only incident was overtaking Dave, and > he scooted up the track to protect his position. I lost 3 spots as a > result, but regained those positions when Dave came down on Mark > Seery (Mark won the race) while they were side-by-side in the turn on > the next-to-last lap. > > I think overall, I did a pretty fair job of staying in the top five > for the entire event. >I think what you are interpreting as 'looser' is actually a bit of control
lag being introduced by online racing.
This is, unfortunately, normal.
You're just a bit further behind the car in control input that you realize.
You get used to it after a while.
Papy had brilliant controller code back in the N2 days that was optimized
for online racing. Unfortunately, it only works with analog controllers. I
believe it's still in there today, but it won't work with anything but a
plain old, analog, joystick-port based controller.
And that's a damned shame. I don't understand why they can't re-write it to
work with today's digital controllers, but we would all be better off if
they did.
Until then, we have to live with the DirectX controller code, which is in no
way optimized for online gaming :( Or anything else as far as I can tell...
-Larry
"mcwhom" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I
> only spun the first few times. I was in races (yes, they were fun) online
> and off and did not spin out, did not even really have any trouble holding
> my line with the exception of going out of three too high on occasion.
> Today's race was a shambles for me, my car did not seem to have the horse
> power on restarts that other cars around me did, I was in a major headonein
> I believe the third caution when two car past me while I was slowing to
> start part II of the incident and I then plowed right into the side of
> someone, after that i had my second spin which at this point I believe was
> damage related since the replay shows me loose right from the green till I
> spun. I am sorry to whomever it was I hit in the side on five coming outof
> that incident (fifth yellow?), you slowed suddenly and I was accelerating
> behind you, ltb went high and I had to go low, bounced back up off theapron
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> > > "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > : Started 5th, finished 2nd. My only incident was overtaking Dave, and > : he scooted up the track to protect his position. I lost 3 spots as a > : result, but regained those positions when Dave came down on Mark > : Seery (Mark won the race) while they were side-by-side in the turn on > : the next-to-last lap. > : > : I think overall, I did a pretty fair job of staying in the top five > : for the entire event. > : > > Guess I will join the "official" thread. > > I know I said this before, now I believe it. The RASCAR race servers run > "Looser" than papy or offline. I raced this track off and on all week andQuoted text (15 lines)
> and into your side. Was hoping I would bounce back up beyond you :-( > I really think it would have been a different race if we could have only > gotten past the first couple of laps and stretched out a little. I know > when I was on the high side in three it was no fun at all. John, I really > liked your whiplash move past the 55 on that restart to pass me, where you > get that HP from anyway?? > All in all, I finished another race and this one was on the lead lap, even > managed a top ten. > Daytona should be fun! > > -- > McWhom > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > >On Sun, 29 Jun 2003 17:25:24 GMT, "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>What a miserable race :)
>
>I think it's safe to say we won't be doing THAT again for a while!
>
Oddly enough this is probably the easiest track we will drive all
year.
Brian Oster
"Brian Oster" wrote...
> <snip>
> Oddly enough this is probably the easiest track
> we will drive all year.
True, lots of banking, forgiving setup... it had everything going for it,
IMO.
Going to review server replay to see what went wrong.
Jan.
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This must be one reason why I love my old Gravis Analogue Pro.
Bruce.
"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Papy had brilliant controller code back in the N2 days that was optimized
> for online racing. Unfortunately, it only works with analog controllers.I
> believe it's still in there today, but it won't work with anything but a
> plain old, analog, joystick-port based controller.
In article <[email hidden]>,
bgoster@swbell**nosmap**.net says...
I like the track. :)
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> On Sun, 29 Jun 2003 17:25:24 GMT, "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >What a miserable race :) > > > >I think it's safe to say we won't be doing THAT again for a while! > > > > Oddly enough this is probably the easiest track we will drive all > year. > > Brian Oster >On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 10:00:42 GMT, John Simmons <[email hidden]> wrote:
I do too, I think it is a lot of fun.
Brian Oster
