http://www.gamespot.com/pc/news/news_6031007.html
I use a momo now but always felt my ms wheel was not bad for the money.
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/news/news_6031007.html
I use a momo now but always felt my ms wheel was not bad for the money.
This is really a shame. The MSFFW is the best consumer-class wheel on the
market.
But, I kind of saw this coming. Microsoft has not updated the software in
nearly five years, and they cheated big time on the Windows XP WHQL
certification for SideWinder 4.0. They didn't even FIX the thing and just
graced it with WHQL certification. I guess when you own the keys to the
certification Lab, you can do whatever you want :(
I can't help but think their push on Consoles doesn't have something to do
with this. This is Microsoft's way, take away the other choice, and then
leave no choice.
-Larry
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> http://www.gamespot.com/pc/news/news_6031007.html
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> I use a momo now but always felt my ms wheel was not bad for the money.
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On Fri, 04 Jul 2003 22:21:47 GMT, "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>But, I kind of saw this coming. Microsoft has not updated the software in
>nearly five years, and they cheated big time on the Windows XP WHQL
>certification for SideWinder 4.0. They didn't even FIX the thing and just
>graced it with WHQL certification. I guess when you own the keys to the
>certification Lab, you can do whatever you want :(
What problems are you having with 4.0 software in XP?
I have the older CD and it installs fine if you click 'ok' on the
warning screen, and haven't had any problems with the wheel working
(Precision Pro). I'm thinking about buying a ffb while they're still
available tho, and if there's a problem with using it in XP I'm iffy
on invesing $70.
Jason
This does not sound too good...
" In addition, Microsoft will continue to support the SideWinder line in
future versions of Windows "as long as these products remain viable", the
company said."
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http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,3973,1178629,00.asp
"Brian Bowles" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> http://www.gamespot.com/pc/news/news_6031007.html
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> I use a momo now but always felt my ms wheel was not bad for the money.
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Jason,
You kind of missed my point :)
Do you know of ANY other manufacturers WHQL Certified software that at
launch states it's not compatible with the Operating System you are trying
to install it on, yet it gets 'granted' WHQL certification anyway?
-Larry
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> On Fri, 04 Jul 2003 22:21:47 GMT, "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote:
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> >But, I kind of saw this coming. Microsoft has not updated the softwarein
> >nearly five years, and they cheated big time on the Windows XP WHQL
> >certification for SideWinder 4.0. They didn't even FIX the thing andjust
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> >graced it with WHQL certification. I guess when you own the keys to the > >certification Lab, you can do whatever you want :( > > What problems are you having with 4.0 software in XP? > > I have the older CD and it installs fine if you click 'ok' on the > warning screen, and haven't had any problems with the wheel working > (Precision Pro). I'm thinking about buying a ffb while they're still > available tho, and if there's a problem with using it in XP I'm iffy > on invesing $70. > > JasonAsk Microsofts UltimateTV customers how they define the word 'viable'.
-Larry
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> This does not sound too good... > > " In addition, Microsoft will continue to support the SideWinder line in > future versions of Windows "as long as these products remain viable", the > company said." > > extract from: > http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,3973,1178629,00.asp > > "Brian Bowles" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:i0ZMa.9713$[email hidden]... > > http://www.gamespot.com/pc/news/news_6031007.html > > > > I use a momo now but always felt my ms wheel was not bad for the money. > > > > > > > >In article <tJAOa.55$[email hidden]>, "Larry" <[email hidden]> writes:
>Ask Microsofts UltimateTV customers how they define the word 'viable'.
"Ultimate TV"? Never heard of it...
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> This is really a shame. The MSFFW is the best consumer-class wheel on the
> market.
I would have to disagree with that, unless our definitions of
"consumer-class" wheel differs. I think the affordable Momo Racing
wheel is the best one I've seen. I have one and it gives me the
quality ff of the Momo Force, for less $$ and less "bells & whistles"
(like leather, metal bearings, etc.).
However, I think it's price (about $80) still makes it a
consumer-class product, doesn't it?
SkykingUSA, er, RoadKingUSA in this group I suppose
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> > But, I kind of saw this coming. Microsoft has not updated the software in > nearly five years, and they cheated big time on the Windows XP WHQL > certification for SideWinder 4.0. They didn't even FIX the thing and just > graced it with WHQL certification. I guess when you own the keys to the > certification Lab, you can do whatever you want :( > > I can't help but think their push on Consoles doesn't have something to do > with this. This is Microsoft's way, take away the other choice, and then > leave no choice. > > -Larry > > "Brian Bowles" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:i0ZMa.9713$[email hidden]... > > http://www.gamespot.com/pc/news/news_6031007.html > > > > I use a momo now but always felt my ms wheel was not bad for the money. > > > > > >Think Tivo, but actually better. That's the shame of it. It was a better
system than Tivo.
-Larry
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> > >Ask Microsofts UltimateTV customers how they define the word 'viable'. > > "Ultimate TV"? Never heard of it... > > Eldred > -- > Help find missing child: Tatianna Ashley Chillcutt from Michigan(info onMost of us with MSFFW's have had them for many years, and have suffered
_zero_ mechanical failures. You don't see that concerning Logitech often,
and in fact there are lots of posts about pots, levers, etc... breaking or
falling off.
And don't even get me started on Logitech pedals :) The MSFFW has the best
there are.
-Larry
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> > This is really a shame. The MSFFW is the best consumer-class wheel onthe
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> > nearly five years, and they cheated big time on the Windows XP WHQL
> > certification for SideWinder 4.0. They didn't even FIX the thing andjust
> > graced it with WHQL certification. I guess when you own the keys to the
> > certification Lab, you can do whatever you want :(
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> > I can't help but think their push on Consoles doesn't have something todo
> > with this. This is Microsoft's way, take away the other choice, andthen
money.
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> > market. > > > I would have to disagree with that, unless our definitions of > "consumer-class" wheel differs. I think the affordable Momo Racing > wheel is the best one I've seen. I have one and it gives me the > quality ff of the Momo Force, for less $$ and less "bells & whistles" > (like leather, metal bearings, etc.). > > However, I think it's price (about $80) still makes it a > consumer-class product, doesn't it? > > SkykingUSA, er, RoadKingUSA in this group I suppose > > > > > > But, I kind of saw this coming. Microsoft has not updated the softwareQuoted text (9 lines)
> > leave no choice. > > > > -Larry > > > > "Brian Bowles" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:i0ZMa.9713$[email hidden]... > > > http://www.gamespot.com/pc/news/news_6031007.html > > > > > > I use a momo now but always felt my ms wheel was not bad for theI'm glad to hear that. I have not had a Logitech wheel too long, so I
can't say how it compares. I am simply looking at functionality,
performance and comfort at this point.
I like the 6 buttons on the wheel which are easy to reach, the two
large, easy to reach levers, I love the shifter lever and that it can
be mounted on either the left or the right side. I like the feel of
the rubber wheel and the design, I love the gripping mechanism - it
has never slipped once for me, where my old Thrustmaster wheel used to
slip. I like the pedals and how they have the little carpet gripper
on the bottom which is retractable. I sit mine on a plastic chair
mat, so I just put that non-slip rubber stuff on the mat to prevent
slipping (the stuff they sell for shelves so things won't slip). I
just thought it was the best wheel overall for the price when I bought
it a few months ago. The reviews I read online also stated it had one
of the best feeling force feedback too.
I suppose time will tell regarding the lasting quality of the wheel.
I'm glad you like your Microsoft one, but for my money I'd recommend
the Logitech MOMO Racing wheel to my friends.
SkykingUSA
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> Most of us with MSFFW's have had them for many years, and have suffered > _zero_ mechanical failures. You don't see that concerning Logitech often, > and in fact there are lots of posts about pots, levers, etc... breaking or > falling off. > > And don't even get me started on Logitech pedals :) The MSFFW has the best > there are. > > -Larry >In article <F5XOa.16012$1a6.4550@lakeread01>, "Larry" <[email hidden]> writes:
>Think Tivo, but actually better. That's the shame of it. It was a better
>system than Tivo.
Better than Tivo, but a failure? Sounds like the Betamax Syndrome...
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You know Microsoft. It wasn't making billions, just normal money, so they
let it fade away, customers be-damned.
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