F1C - Magny Cours

In preparation for todays GP, I've been working on my performance at Magny Cours for 2-3 hours over the weekend. I cannot get anywhere near the - realistic for 2002 - AI times of 1'11"-1'12" - I'm in the 1'17"s! Is it just me? Has anyone else got anywhere near a decent time? or anyone got any tips for this circuit? Iain -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =-----

On Sun, 6 Jul 2003 10:29:15 +0100, Iain Mackenzie wrote: > realistic for 2002 - AI times of 1'11"-1'12" - I'm in the 1'17"s! > Is it just me? Has anyone else got anywhere near a decent time? or anyone > got any tips for this circuit? > Iain 1:16.7xx is my PB in the McNish Toyota... I don't see how I could go much faster than this. Note though that the circuit layout around the backend (lycee) has changed quite a lot which might improve lap times (no more braking for the chicane, and the new chicane leading onto S/F is basically flat out from what I've seen on TV so far. Cheers, uwe -- mail replies to Uwe at schuerkamp dot de ( yahoo address is spambox) Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

AI times are to quick if that's what they are doing, Pole last year 1:11.9 Montoya, My best is a low 1:15, no dought Greger will come along and do a 1:10 :)

"Iain Mackenzie" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:[email hidden]: > In preparation for todays GP, I've been working on my performance at > Magny Cours for 2-3 hours over the weekend. I cannot get anywhere > near the - realistic for 2002 - AI times of 1'11"-1'12" - I'm in the > 1'17"s! Is it just me? Has anyone else got anywhere near a decent > time? or anyone got any tips for this circuit? > Iain I feel your pain. Some of the guys who make setups (like The Notorious) have gotten into the 1:11's. The best I've managed in the 2002 Williams is a low 1:15. I smelled a 1:14 but made a mistake on that lap. Anyways, still quite a bit off from what the fast guys are turning unfortunately.

bill wrote: > AI times are to quick if that's what they are doing, Pole last year > 1:11.9 Montoya, My best is a low 1:15, no dought Greger will come > along and do a 1:10 :) I can manage a mid 1:12 using low TC or a high 1:12 with no TC. -- Ian P <email invalid due to spammers>

I'm in the low 1:14s after doing 15 laps. I'm sure I could get into the 1:12s with a lot more setup tweaking and practice - usually the fast guys are at least 2-3 seconds faster than me....

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> In preparation for todays GP, I've been working on my performance at Magny > Cours for 2-3 hours over the weekend. I cannot get anywhere near the - > realistic for 2002 - AI times of 1'11"-1'12" - I'm in the 1'17"s! > Is it just me? Has anyone else got anywhere near a decent time? or anyone > got any tips for this circuit? > Iain >

I cant get thru the fast chicane before Chateau D'eau without spinning out half the time Doug

My PB is 1:13.4xx and there is still like 2-3 sec left on the track... My suggestions: use much downforce (I use 48 front and 45 rear), the chicanes are faster than you think ;-), so carry as much speed through them as possible, slow in fast out ;-)

"Uwe hoover Schuerkamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Note though that the circuit > layout around the backend (lycee) has changed quite a lot I think he's comparing AI performance, not 2003 real laptimes. And yes, there are major changes to the end of the lap. About the new Magny Cours section at the end of the lap... Chateau d'eau is now extended further from the previous chicane, and is a *lot* tighter. The idea is to slow the cars down for a run down to lyc�e. The track out of chateau d'eau bears to the left a little before where the final RL-R chicane used to be, and it runs further down in that direction, until it is about level with the line of the S/F straight extended back. Here is a relatively tight right hander, called lyc�e, which exits on a line which would run just to the left of the S/F straight, parallel to it. Just before the S/F line, there is a RL chicane onto the pit straight proper, and the pit entry is straight on (like a mirror of Imola). The official idea is to create another passing place, but they haven't done that because chateau d'eau is too tight, the run down to lyc�e is too short, and the cars actually brake as they round the left 'kink' (it is actually quite a turn to the left - unnoticable in the dry but quite a lift in the wet to avoid unsettling the car under braking for lyc�e). The RL chicane is definitely not flat, but not a passing place either. The real reason for the extension is grandstand capacity, which has been increased dramatically. Notice also that the cars run down the extreme right side of the S/F straight, not on any grid slots at all, so there is no real 'clean' or 'dirty' side of the grid to be on. What are the thoughts? Some drivers believe the new chicane to be dangerous - a med RL with relatively high kerbs and a wall outside. Not convinced myself, there should be nobody going in there underneath anybody. Also, it's a quicker path to the finish line by driving in the pitlane (as the S/F line is so close to the chicane), so some people are thinking that a close end-of-race could see the trailing car heading down the pitlane to try and gain a place at the death. That could be fun, not to mention controversial... <g>

The times are pretty comparable with last years times, i.e. 1'11.9 (1st) through to 1'14.8 (18th). I've just managed to creep into the late 15s! Iain "bill" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:WOSNa.604$[email hidden]... > AI times are to quick if that's what they are doing, Pole last year 1:11.9 > Montoya, My best is a low 1:15, no dought Greger will come along and do a > 1:10 :) > > -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =-----

Could I have your setup Ian :) Bill

bill wrote: > Could I have your setup Ian :) > Bill Sure, but your mail address doesn't work. -- Ian P <email invalid due to spammers>

[email hidden] cheers "Ian P" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Pn2Oa.47462$[email hidden]...

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> bill wrote: > > Could I have your setup Ian :) > > Bill > > Sure, but your mail address doesn't work. > > -- > > Ian P > <email invalid due to spammers> > > > >

Ian Would you mind mailing it to me as well, as I'm struggling to get out of the 1'15s! [email hidden] Thanks Iain "Ian P" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Pn2Oa.47462$[email hidden]...

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> bill wrote: > > Could I have your setup Ian :) > > Bill > > Sure, but your mail address doesn't work. > > -- > > Ian P > <email invalid due to spammers> > > > >

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In article <[email hidden]>, "Iain Mackenzie" <[email hidden]> writes: >Ian >Would you mind mailing it to me as well, as I'm struggling to get out of the >1'15s! >[email hidden] >Thanks >Iain I'm struggling to get out of the 1:25's(no shit)... Eldred -- Help find missing child: Tatianna Ashley Chillcutt from Michigan(info on my homepage) Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.