F1C-Does everyone use TC?

Ive never used any aids before but after the past few days with F1C online it looks like the only way to be competitive is to enable Traction Control. Most seem to feel Low TC is ok but if you can use low why not just use high TC? If I understand correctly FIA lets the teams use TC so I guess it's ok in this sim. Roof-riding on the other hand is cheating ;) Mitch

Well I for one choose high speed stability, traction control and antilock brakes. The former becuase I use a joystick. And the latter two because they have them in real life dont they? Although Im not sure how the real life traction control and antilock brakes equate to in the game - is it the high or low settings? I use the high settings which tend to prevent locking wheels and spinning most of the time. Seems accurate to me. It would be very useful if someone here who knows a lot about Formula 1 could explain how to set up the game that would equate most realistically to a real F1 car. -- Nigel 'Nats' Stutt [email hidden] "Its life, Jim, but not as we know it." Remove NOSPAM to respond please. "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:t0_Ma.453$[email hidden]... > Ive never used any aids before but after the past few days with F1C online > it looks like the only way to be competitive is to enable Traction Control. > Most seem to feel Low TC is ok but if you can use low why not just use high > TC? If I understand correctly FIA lets the teams use TC so I guess it's ok > in this sim. Roof-riding on the other hand is cheating ;) > > Mitch > >

No ABS in F1, BTW. "Nats" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:be9vi7$kj$[email hidden]... > Well I for one choose high speed stability, traction control and antilock > brakes. The former becuase I use a joystick. And the latter two becausethey > have them in real life dont they? Although Im not sure how the real life > traction control and antilock brakes equate to in the game - is it thehigh > or low settings? I use the high settings which tend to prevent locking > wheels and spinning most of the time. Seems accurate to me. > > It would be very useful if someone here who knows a lot about Formula 1 > could explain how to set up the game that would equate most realisticallyto > a real F1 car.

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> Well I for one choose high speed stability, traction control and > antilock brakes. The former becuase I use a joystick. And the latter > two because they have them in real life dont they? Although Im not > sure how the real life traction control and antilock brakes equate to > in the game - is it the high or low settings? I use the high settings > which tend to prevent locking wheels and spinning most of the time. > Seems accurate to me. > > It would be very useful if someone here who knows a lot about Formula > 1 could explain how to set up the game that would equate most > realistically to a real F1 car. > >

There's no ABS in real F1. So basically, you could have TC and Autoshift. -- Ian P <email invalid due to spammers>

Which would you say is closer to reality Ian, High traction control or Low? "Ian P" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9d0Oa.47423$[email hidden]...

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> > There's no ABS in real F1. > So basically, you could have TC and Autoshift. > > -- > > Ian P > <email invalid due to spammers> > > > >

Despiser wrote:

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> Which would you say is closer to reality Ian, High traction control > or Low? > > > "Ian P" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:9d0Oa.47423$[email hidden]... >> >> There's no ABS in real F1. >> So basically, you could have TC and Autoshift. >> >> -- >> >> Ian P >> <email invalid due to spammers>

I think low, but IIRC the real F1 cars have a variable system they can adjust while driving. -- Ian P <email invalid due to spammers>

The only really 'cheat' aid in F1C is stability assistance. This allows you to take corners at unrealistic speeds. The other aids are helpful but won't really make you faster than someone using no aids.

"Despiser" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<NU0Oa.385$[email hidden]>... > Which would you say is closer to reality Ian, High traction control or Low? This came up during the initial stages of F12002. It was accepted that LOW TC was the most real when compared to actual F1 teams. How was this determined? I have no idea. Just the facts, ma'am.

Low TC is more realistic. Most F1 teams have a fully adjustable system where the drivers can +/- the TC ratio as they drive.

Ok Im now running with low traction control but Im still loose as a goose coming outta the turns :) I guess thats my issue ;) Thanks guys Mitch "Lawman_02766" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > "Despiser" <[email hidden]> wrote in messagenews:<NU0Oa.385$[email hidden]>... > > Which would you say is closer to reality Ian, High traction control orLow? > > > This came up during the initial stages of F12002. It was accepted that > LOW TC was the most real when compared to actual F1 teams. How was > this determined? I have no idea. Just the facts, ma'am.

You can use High TC because real f1 have a TC that in any case don't permit wheel to spin while exiting from a curve, it's calibrated for each track! so use high TC and auto shift like real f1. Lawman_02766 wrote:

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> "Despiser" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<NU0Oa.385$[email hidden]>... > >>Which would you say is closer to reality Ian, High traction control or Low? > > > > This came up during the initial stages of F12002. It was accepted that > LOW TC was the most real when compared to actual F1 teams. How was > this determined? I have no idea. Just the facts, ma'am.

For what years were traction control and auto shifted used? Was it throughout 1999-2002? Also, what type of auto shift? Up and down, just up, just down? Just looking to make things more realistic by selecting the correct options. On a side note, I noticed that when you use launch control at the start of the race, you get auto shift (up) during take off regardless of the shift options selected. Thanks, Russell "Alex" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > You can use High TC because real f1 have a TC that in any case don't > permit wheel to spin while exiting from a curve, it's calibrated for > each track! so use high TC and auto shift like real f1. > > Lawman_02766 wrote: > > "Despiser" <[email hidden]> wrote in messagenews:<NU0Oa.385$[email hidden]>... > > > >>Which would you say is closer to reality Ian, High traction control orLow?

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> > > > > > > > This came up during the initial stages of F12002. It was accepted that > > LOW TC was the most real when compared to actual F1 teams. How was > > this determined? I have no idea. Just the facts, ma'am. >

I think using low TC and only up autoshift is the most realistic setting - you can select your gears and control the car with the throttle, so it's still fun. It would be great to have a possibility to control the amount of TC, though. Wojtek > For what years were traction control and auto shifted used? Was it > throughout 1999-2002? Also, what type of auto shift? Up and down, justup,

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> just down? Just looking to make things more realistic by selecting the > correct options. > > On a side note, I noticed that when you use launch control at the start of > the race, you get auto shift (up) during take off regardless of the shift > options selected. > > Thanks, > Russell >

"Russell Keating" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:bees04$22j$[email hidden]... > For what years were traction control and auto shifted used? Was it > throughout 1999-2002? Also, what type of auto shift? Up and down, justup, > just down? Spain 2001 was the race when traction control, launch control and fully automatic gearboxes were allowed back into the sport. The better versions allow the driver to override the shifts in a variety of ways, the most common being semi-auto upshifts and fully-auto downshifts, or fully-auto both ways but with an upshift override for short-shifting in certain corners or easing the engine load on acceleration at the end of the race.

"Alex" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > You can use High TC because real f1 have a TC that in any case don't > permit wheel to spin while exiting from a curve, it's calibrated for > each track! so use high TC and auto shift like real f1. Actually, the TC in F1 is quite low, because there are situations where the driver needs some extra right boot than high TC would allow. Witness in 2001 some drivers turning off TC to get the car to stop feeling so dead on turn exit. The top teams' TC is fully adjustable in the car on a lap by lap (sometimes even corner by corner!) basis, so it's not really calibrated for a particular track at the start of the weekend. Some drivers use the TC as a perfect setting and just ride it out of corners, others tend to set the TC up as a guide and drive the car up to the point where the TC is just kicking in.

Now f1 cars use TC and up and down auto shift! Remember at imola barrichello put out the car is hand during he was passing ralf Sch in full acceleration!(auto shift) Russell Keating wrote:

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> For what years were traction control and auto shifted used? Was it > throughout 1999-2002? Also, what type of auto shift? Up and down, just up, > just down? Just looking to make things more realistic by selecting the > correct options. > > On a side note, I noticed that when you use launch control at the start of > the race, you get auto shift (up) during take off regardless of the shift > options selected. > > Thanks, > Russell > > "Alex" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > >>You can use High TC because real f1 have a TC that in any case don't >>permit wheel to spin while exiting from a curve, it's calibrated for >>each track! so use high TC and auto shift like real f1. >> >>Lawman_02766 wrote: >> >>>"Despiser" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> > news:<NU0Oa.385$[email hidden]>... > >>>>Which would you say is closer to reality Ian, High traction control or >>> > Low? > >>> >>> >>>This came up during the initial stages of F12002. It was accepted that >>>LOW TC was the most real when compared to actual F1 teams. How was >>>this determined? I have no idea. Just the facts, ma'am. >> > >

The downshifting algorithms in the real cars is far more sophisticated than those in F1C. I find it nearly impossible to use auto downshifting in F1C - especially without full traction control. It often downshifts as I'm trail-braking towards the apex, unsettling the car in a big way.

"Russell Keating" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:bees04$22j$[email hidden]... > For what years were traction control and auto shifted used? Was it > throughout 1999-2002? Also, what type of auto shift? Up and down, justup, > just down? Just looking to make things more realistic by selecting the > correct options. > Wellll..... if you want to be really realistic Benetton had it in 1995 and Ferrari in 2000. But it was actually only allowed after the British GP in 2001.