OT: FX 5900 Ultra Disappointment

I very disappointed with the performace and the image quailty of the FX5900 256meg Ultra card. I could not get it to run or look anywhere near as good as my 9800Pro. I sent it back the next day, not worth $500.00 bucks. I had high hopes for this card, I have always been a big NVIDA guy, but ATI is really putting a hurt on them right now.

My question is a bit off topic from your off topic post but why would anyone with a 9800 pro buy a $500 FX5900 Ultra? -Tim "senojm23" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I very disappointed with the performace and the image quailty of theFX5900

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> 256meg Ultra card. I could not > get it to run or look anywhere near as good as my 9800Pro. I sent it back > the next day, not worth $500.00 bucks. I had high hopes for this card, I > have always > been a big NVIDA guy, but ATI is really putting a hurt on them right now. > > >

I've just always been the sucker that buys every card that comes out. Alway, looking for something better. "senojm23" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I very disappointed with the performace and the image quailty of theFX5900

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> 256meg Ultra card. I could not > get it to run or look anywhere near as good as my 9800Pro. I sent it back > the next day, not worth $500.00 bucks. I had high hopes for this card, I > have always > been a big NVIDA guy, but ATI is really putting a hurt on them right now. > > >

Sucker being the operative word... AD

I know what you mean, almost ordered a 5900 ultra too to replace the 9800 pro, I'll leave it now I think. Andi. "senojm23" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> I've just always been the sucker that buys every card that > comes out. Alway, looking for something better. > > > "senojm23" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > I very disappointed with the performace and the image quailty of the > FX5900 > > 256meg Ultra card. I could not > > get it to run or look anywhere near as good as my 9800Pro. I sent it

back > > the next day, not worth $500.00 bucks. I had high hopes for this card, I > > have always > > been a big NVIDA guy, but ATI is really putting a hurt on them rightnow. > > > > > > > >

Aidee wrote: > Sucker being the operative word... > > AD > > But he got a refund...

"senojm23" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:[email hidden]: > I've just always been the sucker that buys every card that > comes out. Alway, looking for something better. > Whoooweeeee then you my friend are in luck. I just happen to have a card that is the creme dela creme. Yessir you won't find this baby in any store. In fact, if you take this gf3...errr I mean this Gewhizbaby-cubed beta card for almost free. Just send that poor old 9800pro here and we'll return our latest effort. YOU WON'T BELEIVE YOUR EYES!!! dave henrie (senior graphics enginear)

On , Gerry Aitken <[email hidden]> quilled: >But he got a refund... Maybe he never even bought a 5900 and is really an ATI employee spreading propoanda so we will buy the 9800pro and pass on the 5900. <shifts eyes left and right> Maybe not, but maybe so. I could see either company resorting to such tactics. I'm not buying either myself, not at those prices anyway.

ATI employee or not, I think he's right regarding one aspect though. The ATI's image quality when Aniso and 4xFSAA are enabled, is considerably better than that of any Nvidia card. Achim "Yoshi Yakura" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On , Gerry Aitken <[email hidden]> quilled: > > > >But he got a refund... > > Maybe he never even bought a 5900 and is really an ATI employee > spreading propoanda so we will buy the 9800pro and pass on the 5900. > <shifts eyes left and right> > Maybe not, but maybe so. I could see either company resorting to such > tactics. I'm not buying either myself, not at those prices anyway.

> ATI employee or not, I think he's right regarding one aspect though. The > ATI's image quality when Aniso and 4xFSAA are enabled, is considerably > better than that of any Nvidia card. FSAA and Aniso is great for people who have slow CPUs. It gives the graphics card something to do while it's waiting for the CPU

I beg to differ :-) I find both quite useful, especially since ATI has implemented both very well. Achim "Redmist" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:bf2q5s$a1tcj$[email hidden]... > > ATI employee or not, I think he's right regarding one aspect though. The > > ATI's image quality when Aniso and 4xFSAA are enabled, is considerably > > better than that of any Nvidia card. > > FSAA and Aniso is great for people who have slow CPUs. It gives the > graphics card something to do while it's waiting for the CPU

On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 16:10:10 +1000, "Redmist" <[email hidden]> wrote: >> ATI employee or not, I think he's right regarding one aspect though. The >> ATI's image quality when Aniso and 4xFSAA are enabled, is considerably >> better than that of any Nvidia card. > >FSAA and Aniso is great for people who have slow CPUs. It gives the >graphics card something to do while it's waiting for the CPU Aniso? What the heck is that? Andre

Anisotropic filtering Achim "Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... .... > Aniso? What the heck is that?

On , "Redmist" <[email hidden]> quilled: >FSAA and Aniso is great for people who have slow CPUs. It gives the >graphics card something to do while it's waiting for the CPU > Yep, those are two options I never use. Except anisio in European Air War makes the game look *much* better. But in most games it is just not needed and I won't trade eye candy for speed.

Andre Warringa > Aniso? What the heck is that? > > Andre > Wasn't that a beach in Central Western Italy that was used as a second front during the never finished Italian campaign? dave henrie

> Wasn't that a beach in Central Western Italy that was used as a second > front during the never finished Italian campaign? lol! no, no it was Anzio ;-) look at this: http://www.army.mil/cmh-pg/brochures/anzio/72-19.htm

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Yoshi Yakura) wrote: > But in most games it is just not needed and I won't > trade eye candy for speed. Interesting. For me fsaa is the most amazing advance in hardware in years. I happily lose fps for the improved image quality, which adds greatly to the immersion IMO. Andrew McP

what i find totally gobsmacking is that people get faster and faster graphic cards every year but still cant be satisfied. every year since invention people have said they cant wait until they can use AA and Anis on max. well the obvious conclusion is that it will never ever be used. crazy... AD

Andrew MacPherson wrote: > > Interesting. For me fsaa is the most amazing advance in hardware in > years. I happily lose fps for the improved image quality, which adds > greatly to the immersion IMO. Not to mention that with a decent gfx card, you're not giving up all that much speed in the first place, at least not speed that you'll notice that much Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 21:02 +0100 (BST), [email hidden] (Andrew MacPherson) wrote: >Interesting. For me fsaa is the most amazing advance in hardware in >years. I happily lose fps for the improved image quality, which adds >greatly to the immersion IMO. >I play most genres of PC games, and it is probably driving games where I see the benefits of FSAA the most. The tracks in most games have chain link fencing around them, and I absolutely hate the shimmering effect those produce without FSAA. As you say it adds a lot to the immersion. Andrew.

On , [email hidden] (Andrew MacPherson) quilled: >Interesting. For me fsaa is the most amazing advance in hardware in >years. I happily lose fps for the improved image quality, which adds >greatly to the immersion IMO. > >Andrew McP How does it add to the immersion? That's like something Papadonkey would say. You look at the screen and say, " wow look how smooth the edges are!" when you are racing at Monaco? I'm too busy racing to notice whether the car in front of me has jagged edges or not. That's immersion.

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Yoshi Yakura) wrote: > How does it add to the immersion? I find jaggy pixels on small objects (perhaps cars ahead in this case) a real distraction. Worse though is the texture shimmering on things like fences, and decent antialiasing can banish this altogether. Nvidia suck at it, ATI nearly manage it, and 3dfx did a better job but it didn't help them much, sadly.... probably because people like me waited until the cards were 99ukp instead of 250! > That's like something Papadonkey would say. That's because sometimes Pierre is right. Just keep him off politics and gun legislation and he can be a disturbingly decent human being.... when he *wants* to be. I think that's the critical part :-) > I'm too busy racing to notice whether the car in front > of me has jagged edges or not. Maybe my eyesight's better than yours? ;-) Seriously, I understand what you're saying, and maybe this is another indicator of what a rubbish driver I am. But for me good fsaa adds to the experience in any gaming environment, especially flight sims, which is all that matters. Andrew McP

On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 06:37 +0100 (BST), [email hidden] (Andrew MacPherson) wrote: >That's because sometimes Pierre is right. Just keep him off politics and >gun legislation and he can be a disturbingly decent human being.... when >he *wants* to be. I think that's the critical part :-) Ah, so you are familiar with the great one. I used to get along with him very well at one time but since he found out I'm a socialist it's just not the same. :-) I'm the one who changes names continually and used to troll PD on a frequent basis. He fell for it everytime too.

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Yoshi Yakura) wrote: > I'm the one who changes names continually > and used to troll PD on a frequent basis. I'm not *entirely* sure that's something to be proud of, but everyone should have a hobby I suppose. Andrew McP

On , [email hidden] (Andrew MacPherson) quilled: >I'm not *entirely* sure that's something to be proud of, but everyone >should have a hobby I suppose. > >Andrew McP Sure beats tic-tac-toe.