RASF1 test race

Give me about 5 minutes to set it up. Look for RASF1, no password. I want to test out a second server... Eldred -- Help find missing child: Tatianna Ashley Chillcutt from Michigan(info on my homepage) Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

>Give me about 5 minutes to set it up. Look for RASF1, no password. I want >to >test out a second server... > Oh well, we only had about 8 or 9 guys. Two things that neew answers. 1. how can you set a shorter practice time automatically? 2. how do you get the effing server car off the grid?!? I can't believe it doesn't 'time out'... BTW, PedX - I got tired of losing 3-7 seconds per lap to the next slowest car. After my 3rd or 4th spin in the last complex, I got fed up and quit. Eldred Eldred -- Help find missing child: Tatianna Ashley Chillcutt from Michigan(info on my homepage) Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Thanks for running that Eldred... we had a good race. Found out something interesting about the McLaren is that it gets better fuel mileage than the others. With the settings we used: 7X fuel usage and 30% (18lap) distance, I was able to pit only once where the others had to pit twice. We should try to set up our races to eliminate that advantage. So much of an advantage that I spun 3 times and still won. Spudster. "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Give me about 5 minutes to set it up. Look for RASF1, no password. Iwant to > test out a second server... > > Eldred > -- > Help find missing child: Tatianna Ashley Chillcutt from Michigan(info onmy > homepage) > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

[email hidden] (EldredP) wrote in news:[email hidden]: > Give me about 5 minutes to set it up. Look for RASF1, no password. I > want to test out a second server... That was a lot of fun! Didn't have any problems tonight. What happened to you during the race?

It seemed to be going really well for me at least. When you did disconnect, the server car did get off the grid btw. The only problem I had was massive understeer out of all but 3 turns that cost me at least 4 seconds a lap. Are we going to continue racing at Silverstone so I can get an actual setup here? :-P -Stuart Becktelll "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Give me about 5 minutes to set it up. Look for RASF1, no password. Iwant to > test out a second server... > > Eldred > -- > Help find missing child: Tatianna Ashley Chillcutt from Michigan(info onmy > homepage) > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <[email hidden]>, Ped Xing <[email hidden]> writes: >That was a lot of fun! > >Didn't have any problems tonight. What happened to you during the race? Glad you liked it. I got bored driving around by myself, so I quit. <g> Eldred -- Help find missing child: Tatianna Ashley Chillcutt from Michigan(info on my homepage) Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <ytTQa.46160$[email hidden]>, "Stuart Becktell" <[email hidden]> writes: >It seemed to be going really well for me at least. When you did disconnect, >the server car did get off the grid btw. No, I actually switched back over to the server and kept hitting escape until it went back to the pits. We may have a solution for that, though. PedX came up with a great idea that I'll test tonight. Eldred -- Help find missing child: Tatianna Ashley Chillcutt from Michigan(info on my homepage) Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <6yKQa.436242$[email hidden]>, "Spudster" <[email hidden]> writes: >Found out something interesting about the McLaren is that it gets better >fuel mileage than the others. With the settings we used: 7X fuel usage and >30% (18lap) distance, I was able to pit only once where the others had to >pit twice. We should try to set up our races to eliminate that advantage. So >much of an advantage that I spun 3 times and still won. Those settings were chosen based on testing in the Screamers league. Interesting that there should be such a difference between cars, though... Eldred -- Help find missing child: Tatianna Ashley Chillcutt from Michigan(info on my homepage) Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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> Thanks for running that Eldred... we had a good race. > > Found out something interesting about the McLaren is that it gets > better fuel mileage than the others. With the settings we used: 7X > fuel usage and 30% (18lap) distance, I was able to pit only once where > the others had to pit twice. We should try to set up our races to > eliminate that advantage. So much of an advantage that I spun 3 times > and still won.

Boohoo, that's no good! :-) If there are some cars that have better fuel mileage (as we have seen the McLaren definately does), then running such a high multiplier of fuel use, coupled with short distances, is going to severely disadvantage the cars that don't get such good fuel mileage.

[email hidden] (EldredP) wrote in news:[email hidden]: > Those settings were chosen based on testing in the Screamers league. > Interesting that there should be such a difference between cars, > though... Here's what we found, with the race settings of the other night. The McLaren full was 140L, giving 9 laps. The Williams full was 150L, giving 8 laps. The race was 18 laps, so the McLaren only needed 1 stop whereas the Williams needed 2. I don't have the figures for the BAR or Jag, perhaps Stuart and Elrikk can comment on that?

"Stuart Becktell" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:ytTQa.46160$[email hidden]: > It seemed to be going really well for me at least. When you did > disconnect, the server car did get off the grid btw. The only problem > I had was massive understeer out of all but 3 turns that cost me at > least 4 seconds a lap. Are we going to continue racing at Silverstone > so I can get an actual setup here? :-P > -Stuart Becktelll Are you using the default setup? Try the setup by "The Notorious". It's not perfect for me, but it made me quicker. You can get his setups at http://www.gpx.it/

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (EldredP) writes: >No, I actually switched back over to the server and kept hitting escape until >it went back to the pits. We may have a solution for that, though. PedX >came >up with a great idea that I'll test tonight. Well, that didn't work. We're still looking for solutions... Eldred -- Help find missing child: Tatianna Ashley Chillcutt from Michigan(info on my homepage) Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <[email hidden]>, Ped Xing <[email hidden]> writes: >Here's what we found, with the race settings of the other night. The >McLaren full was 140L, giving 9 laps. The Williams full was 150L, giving 8 >laps. The race was 18 laps, so the McLaren only needed 1 stop whereas the >Williams needed 2. I don't have the figures for the BAR or Jag, perhaps >Stuart and Elrikk can comment on that? I don't know how you got 9 laps out of the McLaren... I tested all the car settings in the garage: Car fuel(liters) laps Ferrari 140 8 McLaren 140 8 Williams 150 8 Sauber 145 8 Jordan 145 8 BAR 135 8 Renault 135 8 Jaguar 145 8 Arrows 135 8 Minardi 135 7 Toyota 135 8 So, the only car that can't make it 8 laps on a full tank is the Minardi. I checked the McLaren both online and offline, and got 8 laps each time. Eldred -- Help find missing child: Tatianna Ashley Chillcutt from Michigan(info on my homepage) Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

"EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <[email hidden]>, Ped Xing > <[email hidden]> writes: > > >Here's what we found, with the race settings of the other night. The > >McLaren full was 140L, giving 9 laps. The Williams full was 150L, giving8 > >laps. The race was 18 laps, so the McLaren only needed 1 stop whereasthe > >Williams needed 2. I don't have the figures for the BAR or Jag, perhaps > >Stuart and Elrikk can comment on that? > > I don't know how you got 9 laps out of the McLaren... I tested all thecar

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> settings in the garage: > > Car fuel(liters) laps > Ferrari 140 8 > McLaren 140 8 > Williams 150 8 > Sauber 145 8 > Jordan 145 8 > BAR 135 8 > Renault 135 8 > Jaguar 145 8 > Arrows 135 8 > Minardi 135 7 > Toyota 135 8 >

OK, I'm thoroughly confused... I tried a test session at 7X fuel usage and couldn't even get a full 7 laps out of the McLaren this time, while I got 9 laps during our race. We did use 7X fuel didn't we? > So, the only car that can't make it 8 laps on a full tank is the Minardi.I > checked the McLaren both online and offline, and got 8 laps each time. > > Eldred > -- > Help find missing child: Tatianna Ashley Chillcutt from Michigan(info onmy > homepage) > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <hofRa.471990$[email hidden]>, "Spudster" <[email hidden]> writes: >OK, I'm thoroughly confused... I tried a test session at 7X fuel usage and >couldn't even get a full 7 laps out of the McLaren this time, while I got 9 >laps during our race. We did use 7X fuel didn't we? > 5x fuel, 7x tires... Now, my test was based on the readout in the garage screen. I didn't take the cars on the track. That would be very driver specific. Example, I didn't know that in GPL, some drivers/cars can't finish a full GP without running out of fuel. That was never an issue for me - I always had PLENTY of fuel left after a full GP. So, I would guess that you're just easier on the car(which sucks, because you're so fast<g>). Eldred -- Help find missing child: Tatianna Ashley Chillcutt from Michigan(info on my homepage) Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

[email hidden] (EldredP) wrote in news:[email hidden]: > 5x fuel, 7x tires... > So, I would guess that you're just easier on the car(which sucks, > because you're so fast<g>). What chance for us Eldred? LOL, he's the fastest of the bunch so far, yet he still manages to conserve fuel enough so that he only has to stop once. I guess I could try to conserve as well, but then watch the lap times rocket (in the wrong direction). hehe

On 16 Jul 2003 03:12:26 GMT, EldredP wrote:

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> In article <[email hidden]>, Ped Xing ><[email hidden]> writes: > >>Here's what we found, with the race settings of the other night. The >>McLaren full was 140L, giving 9 laps. The Williams full was 150L, giving 8 >>laps. The race was 18 laps, so the McLaren only needed 1 stop whereas the >>Williams needed 2. I don't have the figures for the BAR or Jag, perhaps >>Stuart and Elrikk can comment on that? > > I don't know how you got 9 laps out of the McLaren... I tested all the car > settings in the garage: > > Car fuel(liters) laps > Ferrari 140 8 > McLaren 140 8

Now that's strange. I can only get 135L of fuel max into the Toyota... Cheers, uwe -- mail replies to Uwe at schuerkamp dot de ( yahoo address is spambox) Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

On 16 Jul 2003 03:12:26 GMT, [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote: >I don't know how you got 9 laps out of the McLaren... I tested all the car >settings in the garage: Could be gearing? I believe the sim estimates fuel use off of engine speed and throttle position, might be worth checking to see if running longer gears changes the fuel estimation in the setup area. Jason

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>> I don't know how you got 9 laps out of the McLaren... I tested all the car >> settings in the garage: >> >> Car fuel(liters) laps >> Ferrari 140 8 >> McLaren 140 8 > >Now that's strange. I can only get 135L of fuel max into the >Toyota... >

Isn't that what I listed for Toyota? The cars don't all have the same size tanks... Eldred -- Help find missing child: Tatianna Ashley Chillcutt from Michigan(info on my homepage) Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

>Could be gearing? I believe the sim estimates fuel use off of engine >speed and throttle position, might be worth checking to see if running >longer gears changes the fuel estimation in the setup area. Considering I'm a total novice at setup, that may take longer to test...<g> Eldred -- Help find missing child: Tatianna Ashley Chillcutt from Michigan(info on my homepage) Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

On 23 Jul 2003 16:24:58 GMT, [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote: >Considering I'm a total novice at setup, that may take longer to test...<g> I just noticed something while working on a Melbourne qual setup... I did my initial runs with 8L of fuel, which is just enough to show a 2 for the lap estimate. No problems, car started sputtering a little midway through the first sector of my in lap. Shortened the gears a tad and did another test. Fuel estimate did not change. However, this time the engine started sputtering just after I exited the final turn leading onto the front stretch. As best as I can tell the lap estimate is a static figure, but the actual amount of fuel used varies depending on engine speed (as it should). Jason

I think the lap estimate is based on the fuel use number in the track's .aiw file. "Jason Moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > I just noticed something while working on a Melbourne qual setup... > > I did my initial runs with 8L of fuel, which is just enough to show a > 2 for the lap estimate. No problems, car started sputtering a little > midway through the first sector of my in lap. > > Shortened the gears a tad and did another test. Fuel estimate did not > change. However, this time the engine started sputtering just after I > exited the final turn leading onto the front stretch. > > As best as I can tell the lap estimate is a static figure, but the > actual amount of fuel used varies depending on engine speed (as it > should). > > Jason