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Just ran there online with Fixed setups, 70d That's my first try at this track in N2003 but dag, guys were doing 30.0-30.1s. Man, that's too fast for me. I watched a couple of replays and some guys were shifting down to 2nd, staying in 4th for just a moment. I could not drive the car at all like that. Started playing with the aids, and got down to one sub 30.5 but that was it. One of the fast guys there I know and he doesn't use any 'tricks', other than shifting so I can't bitch about that. I did notice the camber was a fraction off from the fast setup but otherwise it felt the same. Wish I had saved that one while online to compare them but I still doubt I could've gone much faster. -- Tim White www.intracmotorsports.com

If I recall, its been awhile since I ran here. The fast setup is pretty good. By playing with the camber and caster you can have a very good setup. Personally, I don't like the track. :-) Pete "Tim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Q3KRa.247402$[email hidden]... > Just ran there online with Fixed setups, 70d > That's my first try at this track in N2003 but dag, guys were doing30.0-30.1s. > > Man, that's too fast for me. I watched a couple of replays and some guyswere shifting down to 2nd, staying in 4th for just a > moment. > I could not drive the car at all like that. > > Started playing with the aids, and got down to one sub 30.5 but that wasit. One of the fast guys there I know and he doesn't use > any 'tricks', other than shifting so I can't bitch about that. > > I did notice the camber was a fraction off from the fast setup butotherwise it felt the same. Wish I had saved that one while

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> online to compare them but I still doubt I could've gone much faster. > > -- > Tim White > www.intracmotorsports.com > > >

In article <Q3KRa.247402$[email hidden]>, "Tim" <[email hidden]> writes: >Just ran there online with Fixed setups, 70d >That's my first try at this track in N2003 but dag, guys were doing >30.0-30.1s. > >Man, that's too fast for me. This is not a good sign if *Tim* thinks someone is too fast...<g> Eldred -- Help find missing child: Tatianna Ashley Chillcutt from Michigan(info on my homepage) Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Be very wary in watching others in car's for reference for gears etc. There seems to be a glitch in showing other drivers using incorrect gears when watching in car views for other drivers via the replay/live race feed screen. I have found that the only way to get "correct" gear, speed and braking infomation is by downloading someones replay and watching that in the replay section of the game. Replays can be found anywhere (via google search) but Torn8oalley seem to have a few from memory. You could even watch the AI in an offline race for a fair indication while learning the track. I too found it most disturbing to think that I had to make weird gear changes at the most inappropriate times until I discovered that it was a glitch. Hundereds of blown engines later.........hehehe Hope it helps

Tim.. I just raced there in SSCA last night with fixed setups. I was in the same boat.. my fastest practice lap was a 30.5 while there were about 6-7 guys that were pulling 30.0-30.3 Do not let those speeds throw you off, during the race I was just as fast as they were. Once it got past 1-2 laps, they would slow down to the same speed as everyone else.. and actually fall off a bit more as the laps continued on "Tim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Q3KRa.247402$[email hidden]... > Just ran there online with Fixed setups, 70d > That's my first try at this track in N2003 but dag, guys were doing30.0-30.1s. > > Man, that's too fast for me. I watched a couple of replays and some guyswere shifting down to 2nd, staying in 4th for just a > moment. > I could not drive the car at all like that. > > Started playing with the aids, and got down to one sub 30.5 but that wasit. One of the fast guys there I know and he doesn't use > any 'tricks', other than shifting so I can't bitch about that. > > I did notice the camber was a fraction off from the fast setup butotherwise it felt the same. Wish I had saved that one while

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> online to compare them but I still doubt I could've gone much faster. > > -- > Tim White > www.intracmotorsports.com > > >

I don't like flat tracks period, but it sure is better than PIR :) That damned crooked wall at PIR gets me EVERY time. -Larry "Pete" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:noKRa.7885$[email hidden]... > If I recall, its been awhile since I ran here. The fast setup ispretty > good. By playing with the camber and caster you can have a very goodsetup.

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> Personally, I don't like the track. :-) > > Pete > > "Tim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Q3KRa.247402$[email hidden]... > > Just ran there online with Fixed setups, 70d > > That's my first try at this track in N2003 but dag, guys were doing > 30.0-30.1s. > > > > Man, that's too fast for me. I watched a couple of replays and some

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> were shifting down to 2nd, staying in 4th for just a > > moment. > > I could not drive the car at all like that. > > > > Started playing with the aids, and got down to one sub 30.5 but that was > it. One of the fast guys there I know and he doesn't use > > any 'tricks', other than shifting so I can't bitch about that. > > > > I did notice the camber was a fraction off from the fast setup but > otherwise it felt the same. Wish I had saved that one while > > online to compare them but I still doubt I could've gone much faster. > > > > -- > > Tim White > > www.intracmotorsports.com > > > > > > > >

Eldred - Not only that, but Tim isn't complaining about it being tight, which means it will be miserable loose for the rest of us :) -Larry "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> In article <Q3KRa.247402$[email hidden]>, "Tim" > <[email hidden]> writes: > > >Just ran there online with Fixed setups, 70d > >That's my first try at this track in N2003 but dag, guys were doing > >30.0-30.1s. > > > >Man, that's too fast for me. > > This is not a good sign if *Tim* thinks someone is too fast...<g> > > Eldred > -- > Help find missing child: Tatianna Ashley Chillcutt from Michigan(info on

my > homepage) > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

lol I hadn't thought of that, but now that you mention it, I did think it was a bit loose for me :) -- Tim White www.intracmotorsports.com "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:NlURa.1501$If5.1394@lakeread06... > Eldred - Not only that, but Tim isn't complaining about it being tight, > which means it will be miserable loose for the rest of us :) >

OKAY, big sigh of relief in the Cheer Chevrolet Monte Carlo garage this week lol Switched over from the sequential gearbox to the direct selection option so I could downshift from 4th right into 2nd. Shifting like this late in the turns, not only did the car handle better, and not lurch around going back up thru the gears on the str8s, but I immediately went to 30.1-30.2s. Didn't run a lot of laps, just enough to know this is what I needed. Switching gearboxes like that would be a huge adjustment, even for an old guy like me, without a LOT of laps. Although the car seems to handle much better (it is actually smoother going thru the gears like this) the line is much more unforgiving. If those buttons are not automatic for you, like somewhere deep way back in your sub conscious, it'll come around on you :) For me, I loved it, but I won't use this gearbox without some serious seat time. If your already using direct selection, hold in 4th late in the turns, just past the mid point, before going to 2nd. Shift back up thru all the gears, 3 and 4. You shift to 2nd too soon and you'll spin it, too late and you'll lose the benefit. Serious roadies should have a blast with this one haha. I should give some kudos to Papy for 'sneaking' in a gear ratio that would allow a guy to test his limits on shifting gears on an oval. :) -- Tim White www.intracmotorsports.com

Uh, oh. We're doomed! :) -Larry "Tim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:DLVRa.308744$[email hidden]... > lol > I hadn't thought of that, but now that you mention it, I did think it wasa bit loose for me

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> :) > > -- > Tim White > www.intracmotorsports.com > > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

news:NlURa.1501$If5.1394@lakeread06... > > Eldred - Not only that, but Tim isn't complaining about it being tight, > > which means it will be miserable loose for the rest of us :) > > > >

"Larry" wrote... > Eldred - Not only that, but Tim isn't complaining about > it being tight, which means it will be miserable loose > for the rest of us :) It's loose in, tight off. Is better in traffic, so that's a blessing. Judging by my AI practise, passing is not going to be easy, but the car doesn't go away very quickly. Best for me is a low 31, without shifting. If people keep their heads screwed on right, we might have a good one. Jan. =---