So the shifter paddle on my Momo wheel stopped working today. I think I can
fix it for a few dollars, but it's also a once in a decade chance (it's been
that long, I think, or at least darned close) to think about a G25. Any
strong opinions here?
Well, it's moot at this point. The decision was simple with that Amazon
"Two-Day 1 Click" Prime button in front of me. :) It'll be here Tuesday.
Just the same, is it worth it? Domestic relationships and all, in addition
to $170 more than the "plain" Momo? I dabble in rFactor and GTR2, always
wondering why I can't ever get the car to front rows in qualifying.
It's worth it - you won't be disappointed.
(shifter is a bit "weak" - but the wheel and pedals are great!)
Cheers
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> So the shifter paddle on my Momo wheel stopped working today. I think I > can fix it for a few dollars, but it's also a once in a decade chance > (it's been that long, I think, or at least darned close) to think about a > G25. Any strong opinions here? > > Well, it's moot at this point. The decision was simple with that Amazon > "Two-Day 1 Click" Prime button in front of me. :) It'll be here Tuesday. > > Just the same, is it worth it? Domestic relationships and all, in addition > to $170 more than the "plain" Momo? I dabble in rFactor and GTR2, always > wondering why I can't ever get the car to front rows in qualifying. > >
"Mike Young" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Just my opinion but yes. It is well built and does not have the problems
that the Momo had. I had returned 5-6 Momos with the accelerator calibration
problem (never had one last long enough to get any other problems) before I
finally just broke down and got the G25. The shifter is ok for Nascar but
tough to use on road courses because the gate detenting is not what it could
be and is easy to miss gears. I use the paddle shifters for road courses
(GTR, GTL, Rfactor etc) and the shifter for the Nascar oval stuff. FFB can
be a little overwhealming and you will probably need to fine tune that to
the strength you want to have. The precision of the unit may help you a bit,
but in order to qualify better you still need to
practice-practice-practice...........:-)
Ed
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> So the shifter paddle on my Momo wheel stopped working today. I think I > can fix it for a few dollars, but it's also a once in a decade chance > (it's been that long, I think, or at least darned close) to think about a > G25. Any strong opinions here? > > Well, it's moot at this point. The decision was simple with that Amazon > "Two-Day 1 Click" Prime button in front of me. :) It'll be here Tuesday. > > Just the same, is it worth it? Domestic relationships and all, in addition > to $170 more than the "plain" Momo? I dabble in rFactor and GTR2, always > wondering why I can't ever get the car to front rows in qualifying. > >In article <zN%ei.5836$[email hidden]>, boat042-
[email hidden] says...
I just got mine yesterday. I have had, for reference, an Original Red
Logi (cable driven), an Act Labs monstrosity (and later the Shifter),
and a black Logi MOMO.
Red Logi was my favorite (of those three), due to the sublime force
feedback.
I am *really* liking the dual motor FF in the G25. It is quieter and
smoother than either the A-L or the MOMO. There is some very subdued
'notchiness', but nothing like in the A-L. I guess after the cable drive
of the Red, anything now is going to feel notchy to some degree.
So far the small number (2) of buttons on the face of the wheel has not
been a problem for me.
I was worried about the shifter being too loose, but I personally like
the way it shifts. It is magnitudes quieter than the A-L shifter. The
clamping system makes it solid on my desk, whereas the A-L shifter
flexed all the time.
This is going to be the first Logi wheel that I haven't had the desire
to immediately throw out the shitty pedals and wire my CH Pedals to.
The 'real leather' must have come off alien plastic cows. Or maybe it is
made from the hides of back alley rats. ;)
Now, back to training my left foot that the clutch is not the brake.
Doh.
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> So the shifter paddle on my Momo wheel stopped working today. I think I can > fix it for a few dollars, but it's also a once in a decade chance (it's been > that long, I think, or at least darned close) to think about a G25. Any > strong opinions here? > > Well, it's moot at this point. The decision was simple with that Amazon > "Two-Day 1 Click" Prime button in front of me. :) It'll be here Tuesday. > > Just the same, is it worth it? Domestic relationships and all, in addition > to $170 more than the "plain" Momo? I dabble in rFactor and GTR2, always > wondering why I can't ever get the car to front rows in qualifying. > > >On Jun 23, 2:43 pm, "Mike Young" <[email hidden]> wrote:
I have had a few goes on a g25. They are good wheels. The accelerator
calibration went on my momo this week. I will be getting a Xbox 360
Wireless PC Adaptor so I can use my xbox 360 wheel in till i save for
a g25 wheel. Go for it get 1.
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> So the shifter paddle on my Momo wheel stopped working today. I think I can > fix it for a few dollars, but it's also a once in a decade chance (it's been > that long, I think, or at least darned close) to think about a G25. Any > strong opinions here? > > Well, it's moot at this point. The decision was simple with that Amazon > "Two-Day 1 Click" Prime button in front of me. :) It'll be here Tuesday. > > Just the same, is it worth it? Domestic relationships and all, in addition > to $170 more than the "plain" Momo? I dabble in rFactor and GTR2, always > wondering why I can't ever get the car to front rows in qualifying.Similar to me. I started out with the cheap Logi Force GP, then the
Act-Labs wheel, H-shifter and BRD pedals.
I just got the G25 a month ago and it's great. The light tough of the
shifter takes a little getting used to after the A-L shifter, but I
miss fewer shifts now.
"Mike Young" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Probably won't make you any faster (practice!), but it will likely make you
more consistent, as well as give you more enjoyment from your racing sims.
I've never been as quick on a hotlap with any FF wheel as I was with my old
non-FF Wingman/CH pedal setup, but I drive with a much more realistic style
now and finally appreciate FF. I only converted to FF as of the DFP as I'd
never liked FF before, and the main thing about the DFP that did it for me
was the multi-turn aspect. I run my wheel at 540 degrees of rotation in
just about everything now, and apreciate being able to disable the low speed
lock override in all sims and run fully linear steering all the time. I
could never go back to a 240 +/- degree wheel!
But the biggest difference in driving between the G25 and the DFP is the
speed of response; it easily reacts twice as fast, allowing you to feel the
car's behavior much sooner and thus comfortably run looser (perhaps faster?)
setups. The clutch is nice to have for starts (it really works), and as for
the shifter, it's OK if you want to go retro but I honestly leave the
shifter pod on the floor all the time now and use the paddles only. More
buttons would be welcome, but it's manageable as is with a keyboard close at
hand and I haven't been tempted to pull the DFP out of the closet once since
I plugged this thing in. Well worth it!
SB
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> So the shifter paddle on my Momo wheel stopped working today. I think I > can fix it for a few dollars, but it's also a once in a decade chance > (it's been that long, I think, or at least darned close) to think about a > G25. Any strong opinions here? > > Well, it's moot at this point. The decision was simple with that Amazon > "Two-Day 1 Click" Prime button in front of me. :) It'll be here Tuesday. > > Just the same, is it worth it? Domestic relationships and all, in addition > to $170 more than the "plain" Momo? I dabble in rFactor and GTR2, always > wondering why I can't ever get the car to front rows in qualifying.Thanks, all, for the help and responses.
"Steve Blankenship" <steveNOSPAMblankenshipATcomcast.net> wrote in message
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> never liked FF before, and the main thing about the DFP that did it for me
> was the multi-turn aspect. I run my wheel at 540 degrees of rotation in
> just about everything now, and apreciate being able to disable the low
> speed lock override in all sims and run fully linear steering all the
> time. I could never go back to a 240 +/- degree wheel!
That's surprising. I didn't consider that I might even try multi-turn.
>
> But the biggest difference in driving between the G25 and the DFP is the
> speed of response; it easily reacts twice as fast, allowing you to feel
> the car's behavior much sooner
On the PS2 or PC? Both? I'm strictly PC here.
> and thus comfortably run looser (perhaps faster?) setups.
Looser might be what I need to "fix" some trouble spots. My line, not the
car. I have to be way more conservative right now than I know I need to be.
That's compared to the AI lines. Hotlappers have nothing to fear from me.
> The clutch is nice to have for starts (it really works), and as for the
> shifter, it's OK if you want to go retro but I honestly leave the shifter
> pod on the floor all the time now and use the paddles only. More buttons
> would be welcome, but it's manageable as is with a keyboard close at hand
> and I haven't been tempted to pull the DFP out of the closet once since I
> plugged this thing in. Well worth it!
Great discussion. Thanks.
BTW. I noticed just now that Forza2 is out. When did that happen?
On Jun 22, 10:43 pm, "Mike Young" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> Just the same, is it worth it? Domestic relationships and all, in addition
> to $170 more than the "plain" Momo? I dabble in rFactor and GTR2, always
> wondering why I can't ever get the car to front rows in qualifying.
Hang on to your shipping box and paperwork.
I love the feel of mine (once I get used to the buttons being off to
the right on the shifter), but from new the H pattern shifter can't
tell the difference between 6th and reverse (apparently it's a "known
problem") and now after less then 6 months of gentle use the upshift
paddle is starting to miss shifts.
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[email hidden] (Mike Young) wrote:
> *From:* "Mike Young" <[email hidden]>
> *Date:* Fri, 22 Jun 2007 21:43:41 -0500
> to think about a G25. Any strong opinions here?
I've had my G25 for a couple of months here, and so far, its only really
had light use, but it has not missed a beat, works perfectly.
It is easy to set-up.
The Logitech software is good.
It works with all my (many driving sims, and even a few bike sims).
Build quality seems to be good.
8-)
*Peter* - http://homepage.ntlworld.com/petergagg/
It's June 26th, and still no REAL Vista software for the G25. Promised for
June release, so they still have a few days :)
-Larry
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> In article <zN%ei.5836$[email hidden]>, > [email hidden] (Mike Young) wrote: > >> *From:* "Mike Young" <[email hidden]> >> *Date:* Fri, 22 Jun 2007 21:43:41 -0500 >> to think about a G25. Any strong opinions here? > > I've had my G25 for a couple of months here, and so far, its only really > had light use, but it has not missed a beat, works perfectly. > > It is easy to set-up. > > The Logitech software is good. > > It works with all my (many driving sims, and even a few bike sims). > > Build quality seems to be good. > > 8-) > > *Peter* - http://homepage.ntlworld.com/petergagg/Well, UPS dropped mine off here this afternoon. (Running XP; no problems
here. :)
The first few minutes were frustrating; too many changes all at once.
6-speed h-shifter and 900 deg of lock. :) I don't think I'll try that again
any time soon. 540 degrees felt pretty good after a few laps. The novelty of
handshifting and double clutching wore off pretty quick; I went back to the
shift paddles and haven't looked back. It sounds stupid, but by the second
session, I had taken 4 seconds off my best time at rFactor's Toban in a
Toyota Atlantic. Simply amazing, and almost effortlessly, too. I'm at a loss
to explain it. (Oh yeah. This might have something to do with it. Last
night, I installed RealFeel, and turned on invulnerability to really toss
around the M3. I took a few seconds off my lap record then too, but that was
sweaty work pushing the limits hard. I was still using the decade old Momo
then, with a busted shift paddle. So it's RealFeel that's helping. Or maybe
it's just invulnerability and a less inhibited driving style. Bounce off
walls *and* keep the hot tires. Real life should be so grand. :)
I wish I could say that I love the new toy, but I can see right away I won't
even notice it. It disappears in the hand, the way a good tool does. That's
the way I like it.
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