Killing processes

Guys, Before installing my new graphics card, I knew which processes were running, to do with my mouse, external cdrom writer and scanner, and I could kill them off easily enough with ctrl-alt-delete. Now, there's an extra one running, rundll32. This is making my machine hang when I try to kill it, and even when I try to kill some of the other processes that I used to be able to kill, the machine hangs. Does anyone know what's going on? Thanks, R.

> Guys, > > Before installing my new graphics card, I knew which processes wererunning, > to do with my mouse, external cdrom writer and scanner, and I could kill > them off easily enough with ctrl-alt-delete. > > Now, there's an extra one running, rundll32. Well...actually, it's RUNDLL32. > This is making my machine hang when I try to kill it, and even when I tryto > kill some of the other processes that I used to be able to kill, themachine

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> hangs. > > Does anyone know what's going on? > > Thanks, > > R.

> > > > Now, there's an extra one running, rundll32. > > Well...actually, it's RUNDLL32. > Don't be messing with that ;) Its a pretty important part of the operating system IIRC All the best, Ash

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> > > Now, there's an extra one running, rundll32. > > > > Well...actually, it's RUNDLL32. > > > > Don't be messing with that ;) > > Its a pretty important part of the operating system IIRC > > All the best, > Ash

Oh. Well, why wasn't it _ever_ running before I installed by new GFX card, and now, suddenly, it's _always_ there? R.

Probably the drivers of your new graphics card use rundll32 to run one of the utilities/add-ons or whatever it wants to run. Rundll32 doesn't do anything for you except, run something else, i.e. system services, etc. If you kill rundll32 while that other item is running, this can indeed hang the system. Maybe check which additional stuff is running since you installed the graphics card (check all the Autostart locations, the various Run keys, the Autostart folder etc.). Achim "Richard S Beckett" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:bfqvn7$k0b$[email hidden]... > Guys, > > Before installing my new graphics card, I knew which processes wererunning, > to do with my mouse, external cdrom writer and scanner, and I could kill > them off easily enough with ctrl-alt-delete. > > Now, there's an extra one running, rundll32. > > This is making my machine hang when I try to kill it, and even when I tryto > kill some of the other processes that I used to be able to kill, themachine

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> hangs. > > Does anyone know what's going on? > > Thanks, > > R. > >

"Richard S Beckett" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:bfr2it$nsl$[email hidden]...

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> > > > Now, there's an extra one running, rundll32. > > > > > > Well...actually, it's RUNDLL32. > > > > > > > Don't be messing with that ;) > > > > Its a pretty important part of the operating system IIRC > > > > All the best, > > Ash > > Oh. Well, why wasn't it _ever_ running before I installed by new GFX card, > and now, suddenly, it's _always_ there? > >

GeForce card, right? Achim's right; they use that for something, though I forget what - just leave it running.

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> Probably the drivers of your new graphics card use rundll32 > to run one of the utilities/add-ons or whatever it wants to run. > Rundll32 doesn't do anything for you except, run something > else, i.e. system services, etc. > > If you kill rundll32 while that other item is running, this can > indeed hang the system. > > Maybe check which additional stuff is running since you > installed the graphics card (check all the Autostart locations, > the various Run keys, the Autostart folder etc.).

I'm at work, so I can't check, but, from memory, there is some stuff that runs via rundll32 on start up (nvctrl or something), but only then. I.e. it doesn't show in my Task list if I check afterward. You can find it via msconfig. I've thought about disabling it, but seeing as it doesn't show once the system is "up", I've left it as is so far. Perhaps on Richard's install rundll32 is not shut down/unloaded properly and he could try disabling it via msconfig. Jan. =---

Ah. I think I'll try re-installing the drivers, then. That way, I can see if it goes when they're uninstalled. R. "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:NW8Ua.31939$[email hidden]...

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> "Joachim Trensz" wrote... > > Probably the drivers of your new graphics card use rundll32 > > to run one of the utilities/add-ons or whatever it wants to run. > > Rundll32 doesn't do anything for you except, run something > > else, i.e. system services, etc. > > > > If you kill rundll32 while that other item is running, this can > > indeed hang the system. > > > > Maybe check which additional stuff is running since you > > installed the graphics card (check all the Autostart locations, > > the various Run keys, the Autostart folder etc.). > > I'm at work, so I can't check, but, from memory, there is some stuff that > runs via rundll32 on start up (nvctrl or something), but only then. I.e.

it > doesn't show in my > Task list if I check afterward. You can find it via msconfig. I've thought > about disabling it, > but seeing as it doesn't show once the system is "up", I've left it as isso

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> far. Perhaps on Richard's install rundll32 is not shut down/unloaded > properly and he could try disabling it via msconfig. > > Jan. > =--- > > > >

Why are you using ctrl-alt-del to close processes? Download enditall2 and do it with 2 or 3 clicks. Enditall will not kill any processes that are vital. I think enditall is the best software on my machine. http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,4149,697,00.asp "Richard S Beckett" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:bfqvn7$k0b$[email hidden]... > Guys, > > Before installing my new graphics card, I knew which processes wererunning, > to do with my mouse, external cdrom writer and scanner, and I could kill > them off easily enough with ctrl-alt-delete. > > Now, there's an extra one running, rundll32. > > This is making my machine hang when I try to kill it, and even when I tryto > kill some of the other processes that I used to be able to kill, themachine

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> hangs. > > Does anyone know what's going on? > > Thanks, > > R. > >

rundll32 is a parrt of the OS, it is actually a subprocess that allows running applications to access the dll library, Basically it allows a program to access(talk to) other parts of your computer. Say, your graphics card uses some of the page file memory to keep large textures that are repetitive, so instead of reloading that large texture file showing you trees in turn three, it can park that in the page file and grab it each time. makes your application run smoother. Here is about the simplist description I found with a quick search. rundll32 - rundll32.exe - Process Information Process File: rundll32 or rundll32.exe Process Name: Windows RUNDLL32 Helper Description: The Windows Rundll32 Program is used to run DLLs as programs and is used by many programs to execute functions located in a DLL file Common Errors: N/A System Process: No I would leave that running as the hit on system resources should be minimal -- McWhom -----------------------------------------------------------------

"Ashley McConnell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:bfr22b$goa$[email hidden]...

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> > > > > > > Now, there's an extra one running, rundll32. > > > > Well...actually, it's RUNDLL32. > > > > Don't be messing with that ;) > > Its a pretty important part of the operating system IIRC > > All the best, > Ash >

I don't think so. It's not running on my end. Try going to START>RUN and type in MSCONFIG. Then go to the "startup" tab and unclick what needs to be unclicked. I have nothing starting at boot. Also, you can go to CONTROL PANEL and "Administrative Tools", then "Services". You shouldn't have much running there either. I might have about 8 processes running, mostly having to do with my LAN, the Internet, and the file system. Try going to http://www.answersthatwork.com/Tasklist_pages/tasklist.htm and find out what all these processes are. Alanb

RunDLL32 is used to execute procedures inside of DLL files. The operating System uses it, and so do applications. RunDLL32 is almost never the actual problem. Something is calling RunDLL32 to execute a procedure inside of a DLL file, and _that procedure_ is what is mucking things up. This one can be a tough nut to crack. -Larry "Richard S Beckett" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:bfr2it$nsl$[email hidden]...

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> > > > Now, there's an extra one running, rundll32. > > > > > > Well...actually, it's RUNDLL32. > > > > > > > Don't be messing with that ;) > > > > Its a pretty important part of the operating system IIRC > > > > All the best, > > Ash > > Oh. Well, why wasn't it _ever_ running before I installed by new GFX card, > and now, suddenly, it's _always_ there? > > R. > >

Ok, I believe NVCTRL is related to Norton AntiVirus... This one sounds familiar to me... If you go to Google and search for RUNDLL32 and then the process that is hanging up, I have no doubt you'll get 1000 hits back with solutions. Google is your friend :) -Larry "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:NW8Ua.31939$[email hidden]... > "Joachim Trensz" wrote... > I'm at work, so I can't check, but, from memory, there is some stuff that > runs via rundll32 on start up (nvctrl or something), but only then. I.e.it > doesn't show in my > Task list if I check afterward. You can find it via msconfig. I've thought > about disabling it, > but seeing as it doesn't show once the system is "up", I've left it as isso

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> far. Perhaps on Richard's install rundll32 is not shut down/unloaded > properly and he could try disabling it via msconfig. > > Jan. > =--- > > > >

Wait! Now that I think about it, NV relates to the NView portion of the nVidia drivers, not Norton AntiVirus. -Larry

On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 14:03:37 -0400, "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Ok, I believe NVCTRL is related to Norton AntiVirus... AFAIK, it's just the nvidia control panel applet. I don't use NAV, and after installing Detonator drivers it appears in msconfig. I've never had a problem with it disabled, also. Jason

rundll32 launches the loading of the power profiles, and it also launches the NvCPLDaemon which is the nVidia control panel hook for display properties. -- Biz "Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular structures,....and the....." - Ash "Richard S Beckett" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:bfr7bm$16d$[email hidden]... > Ah. > > I think I'll try re-installing the drivers, then. That way, I can see if it > goes when they're uninstalled. > > R. > > "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:NW8Ua.31939$[email hidden]... > > "Joachim Trensz" wrote... > > > Probably the drivers of your new graphics card use rundll32 > > > to run one of the utilities/add-ons or whatever it wants to run. > > > Rundll32 doesn't do anything for you except, run something > > > else, i.e. system services, etc. > > > > > > If you kill rundll32 while that other item is running, this can > > > indeed hang the system. > > > > > > Maybe check which additional stuff is running since you > > > installed the graphics card (check all the Autostart locations, > > > the various Run keys, the Autostart folder etc.). > > > > I'm at work, so I can't check, but, from memory, there is some stuff that > > runs via rundll32 on start up (nvctrl or something), but only then. I.e. > it > > doesn't show in my > > Task list if I check afterward. You can find it via msconfig. I've thought > > about disabling it, > > but seeing as it doesn't show once the system is "up", I've left it as is > so > > far. Perhaps on Richard's install rundll32 is not shut down/unloaded > > properly and he could try disabling it via msconfig. > > > > Jan. > > =--- > > > > > > > > > >

"Doug Hook" <[email hidden]> schreef in bericht news:mL9Ua.127922$[email hidden]... > Why are you using ctrl-alt-del to close processes? Download enditall2 anddo True, it also kills those NV RUNDLL's without any ill effects, at least on my system. Bye, Leo

"Leo Landman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:bfscm6$96f$[email hidden]...

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> > "Doug Hook" <[email hidden]> schreef in bericht > news:mL9Ua.127922$[email hidden]... > > Why are you using ctrl-alt-del to close processes? Download enditall2 and > do > > True, it also kills those NV RUNDLL's without any ill effects, at least on > my system. > > Bye, > Leo > > >

It only "kills" what you let it......the process is completely customizable...... -- Biz "Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular structures,....and the....." - Ash

"Richard S Beckett" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:bfqvn7$k0b$[email hidden]... > Guys, > > Before installing my new graphics card, I knew which processes wererunning, > to do with my mouse, external cdrom writer and scanner, and I could kill > them off easily enough with ctrl-alt-delete. > > Now, there's an extra one running, rundll32. > > This is making my machine hang when I try to kill it, and even when I tryto > kill some of the other processes that I used to be able to kill, themachine > hangs. > > Does anyone know what's going on? RUNDLL32.EXE is used by nVidia to load things like the system tray icon. On my system, I used to have a GF2 MX, and one of the startup entries was NvCpl - RUNDLL32.EXE C:\WINDOWS\System32\NvCpl.dll,NvStartup Now I have upgraded to a GF FX 5600, and I get NVMCTRAY - RUNDLL32.EXE C:\WINDOWS\System32\NVMCTRAY.DLL,NvTaskbarInit Try right clicking on the taskbar icon and hitting Exit, then see if the RUNDLL32 entry is gone from the Process list.

Thanks guys, it was the new card driver. I uninstalled, then reinstalled carefully, reading what all the cjheck boxes were for. S'gone now. R. "Nick" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:bftm11$iauha$[email hidden]...

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> > > "Richard S Beckett" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:bfqvn7$k0b$[email hidden]... > > Guys, > > > > Before installing my new graphics card, I knew which processes were > running, > > to do with my mouse, external cdrom writer and scanner, and I could kill > > them off easily enough with ctrl-alt-delete. > > > > Now, there's an extra one running, rundll32. > > > > This is making my machine hang when I try to kill it, and even when I

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> to > > kill some of the other processes that I used to be able to kill, the > machine > > hangs. > > > > Does anyone know what's going on? > > RUNDLL32.EXE is used by nVidia to load things like the system tray icon.

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> my system, I used to have a GF2 MX, and one of the startup entries was > > NvCpl - RUNDLL32.EXE C:\WINDOWS\System32\NvCpl.dll,NvStartup > > Now I have upgraded to a GF FX 5600, and I get > > NVMCTRAY - RUNDLL32.EXE C:\WINDOWS\System32\NVMCTRAY.DLL,NvTaskbarInit > > Try right clicking on the taskbar icon and hitting Exit, then see if the > RUNDLL32 entry is gone from the Process list. > >