Guys,
Since I put my new graphics card in, I've discovered that I get exactly the
same frame rates whether I use 640x480 16bit, or 1600x1200 32bit.
I have to reduce the graphics options quite a bit to get a reasonable 40-50
fps. I get no jerking, all seems very smooth, and the FF seems to be
performing well, despite the lowish FR.
I'm sure there are people out there getting much better FPS with the same
sort of kit, so I'm beginning to think there's something holding my system
back.
Can anyone give me some pointers on where to look?
Current system:
AMD 2400+
256 Mb memory (I think itc pc133 - is this the bottleneck?)
GF4 Ti 4200 128mb Turbo (Supposed to perform as well as a 4600).
Soltek SL75KAV mobo 4xAGP.
Using on board sound, and midi interface.
MSFF gameport.
Thanks.
R.
"Richard S Beckett" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Guys,
>
> Since I put my new graphics card in, I've discovered that I get exactlythe
> same frame rates whether I use 640x480 16bit, or 1600x1200 32bit.
>
> I have to reduce the graphics options quite a bit to get a reasonable40-50
Both the size and the bandwidth of that memory would be a massive bottleneck
in your system, modern games need at least 512mb to run smoothly and the
memory bandwidth of your SDR will be choking your cpu.
Get yourself an Nforce 2 mobo and 512mb of DDR, or at very least another
stick of SDR.
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> fps. I get no jerking, all seems very smooth, and the FF seems to be > performing well, despite the lowish FR. > > I'm sure there are people out there getting much better FPS with the same > sort of kit, so I'm beginning to think there's something holding my system > back. > > Can anyone give me some pointers on where to look? > > Current system: > AMD 2400+ > 256 Mb memory (I think itc pc133 - is this the bottleneck?) > GF4 Ti 4200 128mb Turbo (Supposed to perform as well as a 4600). > Soltek SL75KAV mobo 4xAGP. > Using on board sound, and midi interface. > MSFF gameport. > > Thanks. > > R. > >On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 11:20:05 +0000 (UTC), Alex Cameron wrote:
> Both the size and the bandwidth of that memory would be a massive bottleneck
> in your system, modern games need at least 512mb to run smoothly and the
> memory bandwidth of your SDR will be choking your cpu.
>
> Get yourself an Nforce 2 mobo and 512mb of DDR, or at very least another
> stick of SDR.
Hmm, I think I read on some hardware site that going from SDRAM
to DDRAM only gains you 5-10% in performance... Might be a good
idea anyway because nowadays SDRAM is usually *more* expensive
than DDRAM of the same capacity.
cheers,
uwe
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On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 11:20:05 +0000 (UTC), "Alex Cameron"
<[email hidden]> wrote:
>"Richard S Beckett" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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>> Since I put my new graphics card in, I've discovered that I get exactly
>the
>> same frame rates whether I use 640x480 16bit, or 1600x1200 32bit.
So you're not fillrate limited.
>> I have to reduce the graphics options quite a bit to get a reasonable
>40-50
>> fps. I get no jerking, all seems very smooth, and the FF seems to be
>> performing well, despite the lowish FR.
I wouldn't call 40-50fps 'lowish'. ;-)
So now you'd say you were CPU limited (transformations, culling, AI
etc)
>> AMD 2400+
Now you'd say the last line I wrote is rubbish; enough CPU power
there.
>> MSFF gameport.
Then you shiver, and think of the communication protocol for these
wheels, thought of by MS (let's acknowledge every FF command we send
and forget about performance).
Try turning off FF, see if that improves framerate.
Ruud van Gaal
Free car sim: http://www.racer.nl/
Pencil art : http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery/
i have amd2400+, gf4 4200 128mb, 512 ddr, giabyte ga-7va mobo
momo wheel with FF on
fps.........get low 30's with full grid at start, then mid 40's to 50's when
field opens out
set to 1024 x 768 32 bit
in display properties
image set to : quality
Antialias set to: quincunx
anistopic set to: 2x
"Ruud van Gaal" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 11:20:05 +0000 (UTC), "Alex Cameron" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >"Richard S Beckett" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >news:bfqrmv$edj$[email hidden]... > >> Since I put my new graphics card in, I've discovered that I get exactly > >the > >> same frame rates whether I use 640x480 16bit, or 1600x1200 32bit. > > So you're not fillrate limited. > > >> I have to reduce the graphics options quite a bit to get a reasonable > >40-50 > >> fps. I get no jerking, all seems very smooth, and the FF seems to be > >> performing well, despite the lowish FR. > > I wouldn't call 40-50fps 'lowish'. ;-) > So now you'd say you were CPU limited (transformations, culling, AI > etc) > > >> AMD 2400+ > > Now you'd say the last line I wrote is rubbish; enough CPU power > there. > > >> MSFF gameport. > > Then you shiver, and think of the communication protocol for these > wheels, thought of by MS (let's acknowledge every FF command we send > and forget about performance). > Try turning off FF, see if that improves framerate. > > > Ruud van Gaal > Free car sim: http://www.racer.nl/ > Pencil art : http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery/On board sound is a big CPU and memory resource eater.
A 25$ sound card will improve your FR by 3 or 4 fps to say the least.
Regards,
Jo�o Gonzalez
"Richard S Beckett" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Guys,
>
> Since I put my new graphics card in, I've discovered that I get exactlythe
> same frame rates whether I use 640x480 16bit, or 1600x1200 32bit.
>
> I have to reduce the graphics options quite a bit to get a reasonable40-50
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> fps. I get no jerking, all seems very smooth, and the FF seems to be > performing well, despite the lowish FR. > > I'm sure there are people out there getting much better FPS with the same > sort of kit, so I'm beginning to think there's something holding my system > back. > > Can anyone give me some pointers on where to look? > > Current system: > AMD 2400+ > 256 Mb memory (I think itc pc133 - is this the bottleneck?) > GF4 Ti 4200 128mb Turbo (Supposed to perform as well as a 4600). > Soltek SL75KAV mobo 4xAGP. > Using on board sound, and midi interface. > MSFF gameport. > > Thanks. > > R. > >On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 09:29:24 +0100, "Joao Gonzalez"
<[email hidden]> wrote:
>On board sound is a big CPU and memory resource eater.
>I hope you were referring to the OP's mobo sound. There are some very
good onboard sound implementations, although they are in the minority.
Andrew.
On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 02:53:39 GMT, "Carlos" <[email hidden]>
wrote:
AMD 2800
Nforce2 board
512 DDR
Radeon 9700 PRO
About 35 fps in race grid
85 fps test day suzuka
all graphic options on
