Just accidentally spent...er, 3 hours (!) online with LFS S1

It's the first online racing I've done for about two years and despite the teenage muppets without proper names, the "Team GM is the BEST in the world!" macros, the rear end shunts, the "oh, do I have to turn here?" pileups, the racing round the circuit the wrong way, the discussion about coloured letters in your name and skin modding, it felt damned good. You know in GPL when you forget you're driving a sim and you're just racing? When you feel kerbs beneath your wheels, not textured polygons? When you want to get out of your car and ram your fist down the stupid b*stard's throat because... Oh, no... not that then, maybe. But that's what I was feeling again at times. I think I'm beginning to feel at home in LFS. The forum at racesimcentral makes me feel far too old and serious for this sim/game, but out there in cyberspace nobody can tell how old you are... except when you use words with more than two syllables, obviously. I think we need a passworded RAS:LFS server. I don't expect the racing to be any more consistent than with the teenagers, but at least we'd be able to argue here afterwards for hours about skin names and who crashed into who :-) Mmm... hang on, I'm getting this sense of deja vu. Maybe I'll join Rascar instead if I can pass the skin-name & car number initiation test ;-) Andrew McP

Same here... I have the same "damn where did those 3-4 hours go??" things happen to me, as I did when I first got into GPL online. Yes there are immature drivers and yes there are various problems, but it's FUN and it's addictive. My respect for the fast LFS drivers have skyrocketed lately, I have met a lot of them and honestly expected to blow them away with my clean GPL gentleman driving. Big surprise, they also drive like gentlemen (FAST gentlemen) and they fully lived up to GPL standard, even waiting after a questionable overtaking attempt. Find the right guys to race with and LFS is the best online experience you'll find anywhere. Can't remember the last time I felt so entertained. I must admit it hurts my simracing ego, when the guy who have been no more than 2 inches from your bumper in a killer of a 5 lap race, turns out to be using his mouse as a controller ;) Oh and a RAS server would be great btw. Mikkel PS: And as you probably know we are doing what we can to teach the kidz how to behave at RSC, and it is get better all the time. Andrew MacPherson <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > It's the first online racing I've done for about two years and despite > the teenage muppets without proper names, the "Team GM is the BEST in > the world!" macros, the rear end shunts, the "oh, do I have to turn > here?" pileups, the racing round the circuit the wrong way, the > discussion about coloured letters in your name and skin modding, it felt > damned good. > > You know in GPL when you forget you're driving a sim and you're just > racing? When you feel kerbs beneath your wheels, not textured polygons? > When you want to get out of your car and ram your fist down the stupid > b*stard's throat because... Oh, no... not that then, maybe. > > But that's what I was feeling again at times. I think I'm beginning to > feel at home in LFS. The forum at racesimcentral makes me feel far too > old and serious for this sim/game, but out there in cyberspace nobody > can tell how old you are... except when you use words with more than two > syllables, obviously. > > I think we need a passworded RAS:LFS server. I don't expect the racing > to be any more consistent than with the teenagers, but at least we'd be > able to argue here afterwards for hours about skin names and who crashed > into who :-) > > Mmm... hang on, I'm getting this sense of deja vu. Maybe I'll join > Rascar instead if I can pass the skin-name & car number initiation test > ;-) > > Andrew McP

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> >It's the first online racing I've done for about two years and despite >the teenage muppets without proper names, the "Team GM is the BEST in >the world!" macros, the rear end shunts, the "oh, do I have to turn >here?" pileups, the racing round the circuit the wrong way, the >discussion about coloured letters in your name and skin modding, it felt >damned good. >

Same here. LFS is the first racing game that has had me hooked for a long time. Last one I remember was GP2 and that's going back a long way :) Most of the community I have found to be pretty pleasant. If you are new to the servers it can be a surprise is people are going mad but that generally occurs at the end of a race. Racing so far I have found is pretty well mannered. Not sure how the other online raving games go but I have been very impressed with the netcode in LFS, I play on 64K and have experienced zero lag. The forums, well not sure how old you are but i'm no spring chicken and I find them acceptable and a reasonably good community. They have quite a nice warning system in place which appears to do well in keeping it in control. A poll done recently in the polls area seemed to have most people in the Mid 20's with a fair amount in the 30's (my area :) ) Anyway recommended and would love to see more servers springing up - preferably open (non-passworded) Miles aka Tals in game -- Miles Osborne Items for Sale http://members.ebay.co.uk/aboutme/talsworthy/ Southampton http://www.spampal.org.uk/ UK ICQ: 1 23270583 MSN: Miles_Osborne at hotmail.com

On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 14:14 +0100 (BST), [email hidden] (Andrew MacPherson) wrote: >out there in cyberspace nobody >can tell how old you are... except when you use words with more than two >syllables, obviously. Two silly bulls? :-)

In article <f5ZSNlA0ToI$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Miles Osborne) wrote: > I have been very impressed with the netcode in LFS It certainly seems to cope very well on the couple of servers I tried. Nudging someone (I swear my brake pedal was there a moment ago!) generally has the effect you'd expect rather than causing severe problems every time. > A poll done recently in the polls area seemed to have most > people in the Mid 20's with a fair amount in the 30's I think from where I'm sitting "teenager" tends to last until about 25 these days :-). I blame it on the parents for not kicking 'em out of the family nest soon enough, harsh reality's good for encouraging a little maturity. Andrew McP

In article <3f228338$0$32529$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Mikkel Gram-Hansen) wrote: > Yes there are immature drivers and yes there are various > problems, but it's FUN and it's addictive. Agreed. I must admit I especially like two features of online LFS at the moment. First, most races I found were 3 or 5 laps. That means a faster turnover, less waiting, and more chances to get it right next time. Ok, longer races might encourage better driving and fewer kids, but it's a tradeoff I can live with. It would be nice to see a server option that stopped people joining in mid-race though. And I also like the map showing you where everyone is. Online racing in GPL could be a very lonely experience, and in LFS it's nice to be able to wait for another car and then tag along behind it. It's not very hardcore, but I've only ever raced online to, er... race! Beating the track and admiring the scenery is what I do offline :-) > even waiting after a questionable overtaking attempt Yes, I found some good people to race with as well. I suspect things will improve a little more once LFS has a damage model... it's too easy to go slapping the car off the sides of the South City track at the moment without penalty, and it encourages a lack of respect for the cars. Another thing I found a little frustrating was the way many drivers seem to swap cars all the time looking for a better drive. Seems to me sticking to one or two helps the learning curve far better, but the server code makes it easy to limit available cars, so that's a good sign. Andrew McP

"Most of the community I have found to be pretty pleasant." Wait until the developers implement 'damage'. Online collisions won't be nearly so good natured after that.

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>In article <3f228338$0$32529$[email hidden]>, >[email hidden] (Mikkel Gram-Hansen) wrote: > > >Another thing I found a little frustrating was the way many drivers seem >to swap cars all the time looking for a better drive. Seems to me >sticking to one or two helps the learning curve far better, but the >server code makes it easy to limit available cars, so that's a good >sign. >

This thread is quite good http://tinyurl.com/i6hc or http://forum.racesimcentral.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=1084157#post1084 157 In terms of learning how to improve your race times. Miles -- Miles Osborne Items for Sale http://members.ebay.co.uk/aboutme/talsworthy/ Southampton http://www.spampal.org.uk/ UK ICQ: 1 23270583 MSN: Miles_Osborne at hotmail.com