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Arrrgghhhh.... online LFS

26 posts by 15 people · 31 Jul 2003 10:45 UTC - 04 Aug 2003 20:28 UTC

Frustration with reckless drivers in LFS online

Andrew MacPherson vented about reckless drivers in Live for Speed pickup races, and Douglas Ellison blamed the lack of a damage model and suggested a rating system. Others advised S1-only servers, starting near the front or private races, though some had had good experiences.

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Andrew MacPherson 31 Jul 2003 10:45 UTC#59267
If anyone sees me online in LFS again tell me to f*ck right off :-) I've found a few decent drivers, but far too many who are fast & foolish or just foolish... or not old enough to pay taxes and understand the true meaning of leisure time! Or maybe I just have the 'ump. Muppets, all of 'em... except for the decent drivers, obviously. Excuse me, I have to go reinstall VROC :-) Andrew McP
"Andrew MacPherson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (12 lines)> > If anyone sees me online in LFS again tell me to f*ck right off :-) > I've found a few decent drivers, but far too many who are fast & > foolish or just foolish... or not old enough to pay taxes and > understand the true meaning of leisure time! > > Or maybe I just have the 'ump. Muppets, all of 'em... except for the > decent drivers, obviously. > > Excuse me, I have to go reinstall VROC :-) > > Andrew McP
I know what you mean. The lack of damage model REALLY ruins the pick up race experience. A LOT of TOTAL idiots out there. I'm not trying to brush an entire community with the same label here - but it DOES need to be sorted out - perhaps with some form of rating system similar to N2k2 Doug
In article <bgasnq$lu7s4$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Doug Ellison) wrote: > A LOT of TOTAL idiots out there. I'm not *entirely* sure I'm helping myself racing in the morning during school holidays :-) Not that it seems to matter much when you race at the moment. I think I'll go back to watching Captain Scarlet before I head for bed. Far more entertaining than being rear-ended at South City for the upteenth time. Andrew McP PS Thunderbirds followed by Captain Scarlet! Beats the B&W junk I had to put up with during my school hols :-)
I`ve yet to try any online races, i`m willing to give it a try tonight if you want.... My name is Paulinho, im not very fast yet, but i don`t hit people or stuff... "Andrew MacPherson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (12 lines)> > If anyone sees me online in LFS again tell me to f*ck right off :-) > I've found a few decent drivers, but far too many who are fast & > foolish or just foolish... or not old enough to pay taxes and > understand the true meaning of leisure time! > > Or maybe I just have the 'ump. Muppets, all of 'em... except for the > decent drivers, obviously. > > Excuse me, I have to go reinstall VROC :-) > > Andrew McP
hmmm( does best Homer impersonation) ... Captain Scarlet -- Steve H "Andrew MacPherson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <bgasnq$lu7s4$[email hidden]>, > [email hidden] (Doug Ellison) wrote: > > > A LOT of TOTAL idiots out there. > > I'm not *entirely* sure I'm helping myself racing in the morning during > school holidays :-) Not that it seems to matter much when you race at > the moment. > > I think I'll go back to watching Captain Scarlet before I head for bed. > Far more entertaining than being rear-ended at South City for the > upteenth time. > > Andrew McP > > PS Thunderbirds followed by Captain Scarlet! Beats the B&W junk I had > to put up with during my school hols :-)
"Andrew MacPherson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (12 lines)> > If anyone sees me online in LFS again tell me to f*ck right off :-) > I've found a few decent drivers, but far too many who are fast & > foolish or just foolish... or not old enough to pay taxes and > understand the true meaning of leisure time! > > Or maybe I just have the 'ump. Muppets, all of 'em... except for the > decent drivers, obviously. > > Excuse me, I have to go reinstall VROC :-) > > Andrew McP
I think that if you expected such a thing to happen, then it wouldn't upset you as much. It's open season in any online racing game. There are idiots everywhere. I just looked out my ground-floor window and I saw one, just walking. See. To get rid of the idiots, obviously, you have to password protect. Find a group you regularly race with and there you go. Alanb
As soon as I join a server, and it switches to spectator mode and I see people doing donuts or driving backwards, I disconnect and try another server. I've noticed this with most of LFS online racing: GET UP NEAR THE FRONT. There seems to be a mix of people on every server. The better drivers are always up front, so just get up there without incident and have a fun race. Let the rest of the people crash eachother around in the back.. I still don't have S1 for the exact point you make though. If they attached GUNS to the cars, I'm sure over half the community would be VERY happy. That says something... Mike http://mikebeauchamp.com "Andrew MacPherson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (12 lines)> > If anyone sees me online in LFS again tell me to f*ck right off :-) > I've found a few decent drivers, but far too many who are fast & > foolish or just foolish... or not old enough to pay taxes and > understand the true meaning of leisure time! > > Or maybe I just have the 'ump. Muppets, all of 'em... except for the > decent drivers, obviously. > > Excuse me, I have to go reinstall VROC :-) > > Andrew McP
Mike Beauchamp wrote:
Quoted text (15 lines)> As soon as I join a server, and it switches to spectator mode and I see > people doing donuts or driving backwards, I disconnect and try another > server. > > I've noticed this with most of LFS online racing: > > GET UP NEAR THE FRONT. There seems to be a mix of people on every server. > The better drivers are always up front, so just get up there without > incident and have a fun race. Let the rest of the people crash eachother > around in the back.. > > I still don't have S1 for the exact point you make though. If they attached > GUNS to the cars, I'm sure over half the community would be VERY happy. That > says something... >
Get S1.. the wreakers only play the demo, get on the S1 only server(s) and there is no problem.. racing is good.. if too fast for me. Read this thread: http://forum.racesimcentral.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=96942 Once people pay, and are locked online with ID's plus the payers want to race.
Sam here, it's a lot of nutters and a few good drivers(which doesn't mean the fastest perse) Tonight i dived into LFS online again. Had an idiot behind me not able to pass me, he was typing/macro-ing 'blue flag' 'blue flag' 'blue flag' again and again and again....and on top of that bumping into my rear over and over and over...his nickname had something to do with a person riding a black mask who is fond of whips and loves his mask... Needless to say i got annoyed and at a certain point just let him pass, sadly...getting out of the car and strangling a person with the blue flag is not simulated, gave him a 10 sec headstart so i could drive in peace catching up on him Back to netkar online for me, at least most folks over there seem to grasp the concept of racing...haven't run into a bad mannered person in netkar sofar... To bad really...bring on damage in LFS...quick...very quick. Cheerios Willem On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 11:45 +0100 (BST), [email hidden] (Andrew MacPherson) wrote:
Quoted text (12 lines)> >If anyone sees me online in LFS again tell me to f*ck right off :-) >I've found a few decent drivers, but far too many who are fast & >foolish or just foolish... or not old enough to pay taxes and >understand the true meaning of leisure time! > >Or maybe I just have the 'ump. Muppets, all of 'em... except for the >decent drivers, obviously. > >Excuse me, I have to go reinstall VROC :-) > >Andrew McP
Hmmm...starting to notice i'm passed 30 these days On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 22:27:17 +0200, willempie <[email hidden]> wrote: >Sam hereSame >Tonight i dived into LFS online again.Dove > person riding a black maskPerson riding a black horse
Nats 31 Jul 2003 21:14 UTC↳ reply to willempie#59179
"willempie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Hmmm...starting to notice i'm passed 30 these days Past
Quoted text (10 lines)> > On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 22:27:17 +0200, willempie <[email hidden]> wrote: > >Sam here > Same > >Tonight i dived into LFS online again. > Dove > > person riding a black mask > Person riding a black horse > >
-- Nigel 'Nats' Stutt [email hidden] "Its life, Jim, but not as we know it."
Nats 31 Jul 2003 21:14 UTC#531058
Past > >Sam here > Same > >Tonight i dived into LFS online again. > Dove > > person riding a black mask > Person riding a black horse -- Nigel 'Nats' Stutt "Its life, Jim, but not as we know it."
Malc 31 Jul 2003 21:39 UTC↳ reply to Nats#59181
"Nats" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:bgc0sd$qbv$[email hidden]... > "willempie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Hmmm...starting to notice i'm passed 30 these days > > Past Actually no ;-) Passed is correct in that context, and it's considered bad nettiquette by many to correct spelling or grammar. Malc.
Plastic 31 Jul 2003 22:28 UTC↳ reply to Malc#59104
"Malc" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:I3gWa.51509$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (12 lines)> "Nats" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:bgc0sd$qbv$[email hidden]... > > "willempie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Hmmm...starting to notice i'm passed 30 these days > > > > Past > > Actually no ;-) > > Passed is correct in that context, and it's considered bad nettiquette by > many to correct spelling or grammar.
It's netiquette, not nettiquette. :) > > Malc. > >
Fido 31 Jul 2003 23:53 UTC↳ reply to willempie#59100
On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 22:27:17 +0200, willempie <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (20 lines)>Sam here, it's a lot of nutters and a few good drivers(which doesn't >mean the fastest perse) >Tonight i dived into LFS online again. >Had an idiot behind me not able to pass me, he was typing/macro-ing >'blue flag' 'blue flag' 'blue flag' again and again and again....and >on top of that bumping into my rear over and over and over...his >nickname had something to do with a person riding a black mask who is >fond of whips and loves his mask... >Needless to say i got annoyed and at a certain point just let him >pass, sadly...getting out of the car and strangling a person with the >blue flag is not simulated, gave him a 10 sec headstart so i could >drive in peace catching up on him > >Back to netkar online for me, at least most folks over there seem to >grasp the concept of racing...haven't run into a bad mannered person >in netkar sofar... >To bad really...bring on damage in LFS...quick...very quick. > >Cheerios >Willem
So what was his exact name? Zorro? Any colors in his name? You should report him so he can get kicked/banned..
In article <[email hidden]>, willempie <[email hidden]> writes: >>Tonight i dived into LFS online again. >Dove Actually, it's dived. Dove is a bird. Don McCorkle
"Woodie 83" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (7 lines)> In article <[email hidden]>, > willempie <[email hidden]> writes: > > >>Tonight i dived into LFS online again. > >Dove > > Actually, it's dived. Dove is a bird.
dived and dove are both correct for the past tense of dive. > > > Don McCorkle >
Malc 01 Aug 2003 07:33 UTC↳ reply to Plastic#59195
"Plastic" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > It's netiquette, not nettiquette. :) lol Malc.
"Kinesin" <[email hidden]> skrev i meddelandet news:vFcWa.576$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (8 lines)> Mike Beauchamp wrote: > > As soon as I join a server, and it switches to spectator mode and I see > > people doing donuts or driving backwards, I disconnect and try another > > server. > > > > I've noticed this with most of LFS online racing: > > > > GET UP NEAR THE FRONT. There seems to be a mix of people on every
server. > > The better drivers are always up front, so just get up there without > > incident and have a fun race. Let the rest of the people crash eachother > > around in the back.. > > > > I still don't have S1 for the exact point you make though. If theyattached > > GUNS to the cars, I'm sure over half the community would be VERY happy.That
Quoted text (13 lines)> > says something... > > > > > Get S1.. the wreakers only play the demo, get on the S1 only server(s) > and there is no problem.. racing is good.. if too fast for me. > > Read this thread: > http://forum.racesimcentral.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=96942 > > Once people pay, and are locked online with ID's plus the payers want to > race. >
Unfortunately even the most S1 servers seems to be most small kids playgrounds... Pity for an otherwise quite fun game! But yes i have managed to find a decent game every now and then, quite boring though that you have to try 10 servers before you find ONE with people interested in racing... Peter
willempie 01 Aug 2003 08:46 UTC↳ reply to Fido#59197
No idea though if he had colours in his name. I'm not gonna get someone kicked or banned for a thing like this although it was annoying i need to be a lot more annoyed to take action like that.. And besides...it would be like fixing a 1 inch hole in yer boat on the left side while there's a gaping 2 meter hole on the right. It really needs damage....like busted radiators.. On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 23:53:39 GMT, Fido <[email hidden]> wrote: >You should report him so he can get kicked/banned..
Fido 01 Aug 2003 13:08 UTC↳ reply to willempie#59227
On Fri, 01 Aug 2003 10:46:18 +0200, willempie <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (13 lines)>No idea though if he had colours in his name. >I'm not gonna get someone kicked or banned for a thing like this >although it was annoying i need to be a lot more annoyed to take >action like that.. > >And besides...it would be like fixing a 1 inch hole in yer boat on the >left side while there's a gaping 2 meter hole on the right. >It really needs damage....like busted radiators.. > > >On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 23:53:39 GMT, Fido <[email hidden]> wrote: > >>You should report him so he can get kicked/banned..
Then why complain if your not going to do anything. He's probably a member of some group where your not allowed to drive like that.
In message <5ZoWa.18317$[email hidden]>, Peter Thorwaldsson <[email hidden]> writes
Quoted text (39 lines)> >"Kinesin" <[email hidden]> skrev i meddelandet >news:vFcWa.576$[email hidden]... >> Mike Beauchamp wrote: >> > As soon as I join a server, and it switches to spectator mode and I see >> > people doing donuts or driving backwards, I disconnect and try another >> > server. >> > >> > I've noticed this with most of LFS online racing: >> > >> > GET UP NEAR THE FRONT. There seems to be a mix of people on every >server. >> > The better drivers are always up front, so just get up there without >> > incident and have a fun race. Let the rest of the people crash eachother >> > around in the back.. >> > >> > I still don't have S1 for the exact point you make though. If they >attached >> > GUNS to the cars, I'm sure over half the community would be VERY happy. >That >> > says something... >> > >> >> >> Get S1.. the wreakers only play the demo, get on the S1 only server(s) >> and there is no problem.. racing is good.. if too fast for me. >> >> Read this thread: >> http://forum.racesimcentral.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=96942 >> >> Once people pay, and are locked online with ID's plus the payers want to >> race. >> > >Unfortunately even the most S1 servers seems to be most small kids >playgrounds... Pity for an otherwise quite fun game! But yes i have managed >to find a decent game every now and then, quite boring though that you have >to try 10 servers before you find ONE with people interested in racing... >
My experience has been the opposite. NOt yet had a bad one and where people arn't racing I just work on my laps. Still a long way to go for me to catch up with the times though :( -- Miles Osborne Items for Sale http://members.ebay.co.uk/aboutme/talsworthy/ Southampton http://www.spampal.org.uk/ UK ICQ: 1 23270583 MSN: Miles_Osborne at hotmail.com
"Miles Osborne" <[email hidden]> skrev i meddelandet > > > >Unfortunately even the most S1 servers seems to be most small kids > >playgrounds... Pity for an otherwise quite fun game! But yes i havemanaged > >to find a decent game every now and then, quite boring though that youhave
Quoted text (9 lines)> >to try 10 servers before you find ONE with people interested in racing... > > > > My experience has been the opposite. NOt yet had a bad one and where > people arn't racing I just work on my laps. > > Still a long way to go for me to catch up with the times though :( > -- > Miles Osborne Items for Sale
http://members.ebay.co.uk/aboutme/talsworthy/ > Southampton http://www.spampal.org.uk/ > UK ICQ: 1 23270583 MSN: Miles_Osborne at hotmail.com > Probably my usual bad luck then :-). Ahh well, VROC and GPL is still my number one choice for serious racing, LFS is great for some quick fun. Have to test netkar though that everybody�s talking about... Peter
In message <4_KWa.18394$[email hidden]>, Peter Thorwaldsson <[email hidden]> writes
Quoted text (25 lines)> >"Miles Osborne" <[email hidden]> skrev i meddelandet > > >> >Unfortunately even the most S1 servers seems to be most small kids >> >playgrounds... Pity for an otherwise quite fun game! But yes i have >managed >> >to find a decent game every now and then, quite boring though that you >have >> >to try 10 servers before you find ONE with people interested in racing... >> > >> >> My experience has been the opposite. NOt yet had a bad one and where >> people arn't racing I just work on my laps. >> >> Still a long way to go for me to catch up with the times though :( >> -- >> Miles Osborne Items for Sale >http://members.ebay.co.uk/aboutme/talsworthy/ >> Southampton http://www.spampal.org.uk/ >> UK ICQ: 1 23270583 MSN: Miles_Osborne at hotmail.com >> > >Probably my usual bad luck then :-). Ahh well, VROC and GPL is still my >number one choice for serious racing, LFS is great for some quick fun. Have >to test netkar though that everybody�s talking about... >
LFS has been my first racing game since F1GP3, and I love it. Very nice racing particularly when you have a good crew. At first I couldn't believe how much quicker others were than me, but slowly i'm starting to get closer to them - still a long way to go though :) I checked out Netkar, although it presents more variety of cars I just didn't feel as immersed as I do in say LFS, may grow on me but the graphics need work on, I hesitate to say they look a little cartoony at this point in time. Miles -- Miles Osborne Items for Sale http://members.ebay.co.uk/aboutme/talsworthy/ Southampton http://www.spampal.org.uk/ UK ICQ: 1 23270583 MSN: Miles_Osborne at hotmail.com
In article <q0BPO7JbxXL$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Miles Osborne) wrote: > Very nice racing particularly when > you have a good crew The more I drive LFS the more impressed I am with the simulation and its potential for *extremely* satisfying online racing. But the more I race online at the moment, the more impatient fools I meet driving cars they can't handle. So I've stopped for a while and I'm concentrating on training the AI. The AI do seem to learn the tracks steadily, but they have some *really* bad habits, and they get stuck in the strangest places because they can't do a 3-point turn to save their lives. Yet at times watching through their cockpit you'd be convinced there was a human driver... though this may well be down to the fact the AI use the same physics as we do ie they have no choice but to look real or fall off the track :-) I really do have my fingers crossed for LFS, I spent a little time working on the LX4/6 (Caterham) cars today and although they're hard work & you can't afford to relax for a moment, they can be incredibly satisfying to drive. If I was better at understanding setups that'd probably help a lot! Think I'll stick to my nice safe 4-wheel drive RB4 for the time being :-) Andrew McP
In message <[email hidden]>, Andrew MacPherson <[email hidden]> writes
Quoted text (12 lines)>In article <q0BPO7JbxXL$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] >(Miles Osborne) wrote: > >> Very nice racing particularly when >> you have a good crew > >The more I drive LFS the more impressed I am with the simulation and >its potential for *extremely* satisfying online racing. But the more I >race online at the moment, the more impatient fools I meet driving >cars they can't handle. So I've stopped for a while and I'm >concentrating on training the AI. >
The only thing I think can get round this is something like CRC which is effectively a group of people - now a large group that agree to a particular driving philosophy. I'm still learning and improving so its not a big problem - although its painful when a guy rear ends me, particularly at the beginning. I am however impressed with the standard of racing in game, some of its is frankly awesome. Particularly as I am using setups over the web and yet still not coming close to the top guys. After trying Netcar it really brought home how user friendly LFS have made the whole experience. Miles -- Miles Osborne Items for Sale http://members.ebay.co.uk/aboutme/talsworthy/ Southampton http://www.spampal.org.uk/ UK ICQ: 1 23270583 MSN: Miles_Osborne at hotmail.com

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