Apparently it all expleded at aroun 6pm GMT (1pm ET) yesterday...I got it, I
know 3 others who did - anyone in here?
Damn, I lost some stuff before I figured it out......
Blaster worm hits Windows PCs and Mac versus PC banter
Members compared notes on the August 2003 Blaster worm, which exploited a Windows DCOM flaw rather than email, and shared Symantec's removal tool. Many recommended routers and firewalls. Ruud Dingemans's boasts about Mac immunity led to a lengthy Mac-versus-PC exchange, including mention that NR2003 had a Mac OS X version.
off-topichardware: PC/graphics
Automated summary.
On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 19:49:24 GMT, "Colin Harris"
<[email hidden]> wrote:
>Apparently it all expleded at aroun 6pm GMT (1pm ET) yesterday...I got it, I
>know 3 others who did - anyone in here?
>No, I don't go near Outhouse Express.
Andrew.
Umm...yea, it has nothing to do with outlook express. It uses an explotation
in DCOM to create a remote connection on port 4444, then downloads some
software onto your computer.
-Stuart Becktell
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> On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 19:49:24 GMT, "Colin Harris"
> <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
> >Apparently it all expleded at aroun 6pm GMT (1pm ET) yesterday...I gotit, I
> >know 3 others who did - anyone in here?
> >
> No, I don't go near Outhouse Express.
>
> Andrew.
aep@nospam, writeme.com wrote:
You don't have to for this one
Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy
"goyl at nettx dot no"
http://www.theuspits.com
"A man is only as old as the woman he feels........"
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> > On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 19:49:24 GMT, "Colin Harris" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Apparently it all expleded at aroun 6pm GMT (1pm ET) yesterday...I got it, I > >know 3 others who did - anyone in here? > > > No, I don't go near Outhouse Express.On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 20:45:15 GMT, "Stuart Becktell"
<[email hidden]> top posted:
>Umm...yea, it has nothing to do with outlook express. It uses an explotation
>in DCOM to create a remote connection on port 4444, then downloads some
>software onto your computer.
Sorry, I tend to ignore the specifics of the latest Windows exploits.
I use a NAT router, a firewall and don't use MS mail/news clients so
life is a bit less exciting for me :-)
Andrew.
In article <8xb_a.4563$[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] says...
One word - router.
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> Apparently it all expleded at aroun 6pm GMT (1pm ET) yesterday...I got it, I > know 3 others who did - anyone in here? > > Damn, I lost some stuff before I figured it out...... > > >
"John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> In article <8xb_a.4563$[email hidden]>,
> [email hidden] says...
> > Apparently it all expleded at aroun 6pm GMT (1pm ET) yesterday...I gotit, I
I got more than one word for you, Simmo ;-)
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> > know 3 others who did - anyone in here? > > > > Damn, I lost some stuff before I figured it out...... > > > > > > > > One word - router.If you get it supposedly you can fix it with this.
Download: FixBlast - W32.Blaster.Worm Removal Tool
(same link as above)
http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/FixBlast.exe
Ill know later I guess Mom just called.... Shit
They are on Dialup, they dont get online for a total of 15 minutes per day,
and most of that is just send recieve email.
tonight they get brave and go looking for a website for something...
Dammnit
"Colin Harris" <[email hidden]> wrote in
message news:8xb_a.4563$[email hidden]...
> Apparently it all expleded at aroun 6pm GMT (1pm ET) yesterday...I got it,I
> know 3 others who did - anyone in here?
>
> Damn, I lost some stuff before I figured it out......
>
>
On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 00:12:45 +0200, Ruud Dingemans <[email hidden]>
wrote:
>Two words: Old Mac.
Sounds great, how does it run GPL/F1C/N2003? =)
Jason
In article <bhbocs$ili$[email hidden]>, Ruud Dingemans <[email hidden]> wrote:
true, but try finding a good racing sim on a mac :D j/k
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>aep@nospam wrote: > >> Sorry, I tend to ignore the specifics of the latest Windows exploits. >> I use a NAT router, a firewall and don't use MS mail/news clients so >> life is a bit less exciting for me :-) > > >One of the benefits for us Mac users is we're almost automatically >immune :) > > > >(The most unhackable and virus-resistant Mac ever was the old Mac >Classic, though. Not only do nearly all hackers & virus writers not know >how to 'attack' Macs, this model also had it's entire OS in ROM, had no >command line, could start without any disk and only spoke Appletalk thru >the network. Now that's a challenge ;) > >Regards, Rudy >Yup, plus if your Mac is down it doesn't even matter since you weren't
running anything on it anyway :)
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> aep@nospam wrote: > > > Sorry, I tend to ignore the specifics of the latest Windows exploits. > > I use a NAT router, a firewall and don't use MS mail/news clients so > > life is a bit less exciting for me :-) > > > One of the benefits for us Mac users is we're almost automatically > immune :) > > > > (The most unhackable and virus-resistant Mac ever was the old Mac > Classic, though. Not only do nearly all hackers & virus writers not know > how to 'attack' Macs, this model also had it's entire OS in ROM, had no > command line, could start without any disk and only spoke Appletalk thru > the network. Now that's a challenge ;) > > Regards, Rudy >
"John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> In article <8xb_a.4563$[email hidden]>,
> [email hidden] says...
> > Apparently it all expleded at aroun 6pm GMT (1pm ET) yesterday...I gotit, I
I'm with you John. D-Link router.
bluestringer
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> > know 3 others who did - anyone in here? > > > > Damn, I lost some stuff before I figured it out...... > > > > > > > > One word - router.In article <vlc_a.89142$[email hidden]>, Stuart Becktell
<[email hidden]> writes
>Umm...yea, it has nothing to do with outlook express. It uses an explotation
>in DCOM to create a remote connection on port 4444, then downloads
>some
>software onto your computer.
But apparently it only affects NT based M$ systems. I.e. NT, 2000 and
XP. Anyone using win98 or ME is safe.
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>-Stuart Becktell ><aep@nospam writeme.com> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 19:49:24 GMT, "Colin Harris" >> <[email hidden]> wrote: >> >> >Apparently it all expleded at aroun 6pm GMT (1pm ET) yesterday...I got >it, I >> >know 3 others who did - anyone in here? >> > >> No, I don't go near Outhouse Express. >> >> Andrew. > >Ahahaha.. oh man that was classic! :) I love when mac people say "blah blah,
we can't get that virus.. blah blah".
Mike
http://mikebeauchamp.com
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> Yup, plus if your Mac is down it doesn't even matter since you weren't > running anything on it anyway :) > > "Ruud Dingemans" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:bhbocs$ili$[email hidden]... > > aep@nospam wrote: > > > > > Sorry, I tend to ignore the specifics of the latest Windows exploits. > > > I use a NAT router, a firewall and don't use MS mail/news clients so > > > life is a bit less exciting for me :-) > > > > > > One of the benefits for us Mac users is we're almost automatically > > immune :) > > > > > > > > (The most unhackable and virus-resistant Mac ever was the old Mac > > Classic, though. Not only do nearly all hackers & virus writers not know > > how to 'attack' Macs, this model also had it's entire OS in ROM, had no > > command line, could start without any disk and only spoke Appletalk thru > > the network. Now that's a challenge ;) > > > > Regards, Rudy > > > >On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 06:33:06 +0200, Ruud Dingemans <[email hidden]>
wrote:
heck, I'm a WinTel guy.. and I have "Hands On" Mac experience...
I put my hands on and around the last mac guys puter who was preaching
aplle crap, and promptly threw it out the window....
after he had said something along the lines of " my apple would never
crash like windows does..." well he was wrong, the window and the mac
both crashed :)
Blaine
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>Mike Beauchamp wrote: > >> Ahahaha.. oh man that was classic! :) I love when mac people say "blah blah, >> we can't get that virus.. blah blah". > > >I love it when Windows people say "yeah, mine's been infected... lost >data... AGAIN" ;) > ><grin> > >Don't worry though, I've got a Repentium for comparison (to run GPL on) >as well... > > >(Actually, that's probably the thing about Windows and Mac people. > >Whether they want to or not - usually, they don't, but hey, that's life >- Mac users will always have some hands-on Windows knowledge -- > >(from their job, local institutions, pc-using neighbours, pre-Mac days >etc). Consequence of this being a Windows-monopolised world, I'm afraid. > >Windows users who have hands-on Mac experience (other than maybe just >'mousing around' for two minutes), on the other hand, are pretty rare. >So I'll leave it up to you to figure out who is best placed to make >actual comparisons, hum hum...) > >Regards, Rudy >(Mac/Windows/MSX/C64/CP/M/DOS/RT-11/Linux/AppleII/BBC/Sinclair/Tandy/Amiga/NeXT/SGI >user)On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 00:06:05 +0200, Ruud Dingemans <[email hidden]>
wrote:
>One of the benefits for us Mac users is we're almost automatically
>immune :)
Well, I could just not use a computer at all, be immune, have the same
software choices as Mac users, AND save money.
;-)
aep@nospam wrote:
> Sorry, I tend to ignore the specifics of the latest Windows exploits.
> I use a NAT router, a firewall and don't use MS mail/news clients so
> life is a bit less exciting for me :-)
One of the benefits for us Mac users is we're almost automatically
immune :)
(The most unhackable and virus-resistant Mac ever was the old Mac
Classic, though. Not only do nearly all hackers & virus writers not know
how to 'attack' Macs, this model also had it's entire OS in ROM, had no
command line, could start without any disk and only spoke Appletalk thru
the network. Now that's a challenge ;)
Regards, Rudy
John Simmons wrote:
>>Damn, I lost some stuff before I figured it out......
> One word - router.
Two words: Old Mac.
($ 10 for such an oldie - like the IICI - and $ 3 for an old Ethernet
card will buy you an almost unhackable and virus-resistant little
server/router/firewall. Very cheap and VERY safe, relatively speaking.
The US Army used something like this for www.army.mil a while ago and
afaik it's still on the air ;)
Regards, Rudy
On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 06:33:06 +0200, Ruud Dingemans <[email hidden]>
wrote:
http://daniel.head.users.btopenworld.com/why_macs_suck.wmv
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>Windows users who have hands-on Mac experience (other than maybe just >'mousing around' for two minutes), on the other hand, are pretty rare. >So I'll leave it up to you to figure out who is best placed to make >actual comparisons, hum hum...) > >Regards, Rudy >(Mac/Windows/MSX/C64/CP/M/DOS/RT-11/Linux/AppleII/BBC/Sinclair/Tandy/Amiga/NeXT/SGI >user)jason moyer wrote:
>>Two words: Old Mac.
> Sounds great, how does it run GPL/F1C/N2003? =)
Dunno 'bout the first ones but if you have a notso-old, it runs NR2003
just fine ;)
Regards, Rudy
Obake wrote:
>>One of the benefits for us Mac users is we're almost automatically
>>immune :)
> true, but try finding a good racing sim on a mac :D j/k
? Well like I said in my previous message: what's wrong with NR2003?
(Yes, there is a MacOSX-version too, you know ;)
I'll be trying to find out if some of the pc mods/addons work on the Mac
version as well but first I'm waiting for a G5 to test on!
Regards, Rudy
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Schooner wrote:
> Yup, plus if your Mac is down it doesn't even matter since you weren't
> running anything on it anyway :)
If that were true, you wouldn't be reading this here message right now
sir ;)
>>One of the benefits for us Mac users is we're almost automatically
>>immune :)
Regards, Rudy
Mike Beauchamp wrote:
> Ahahaha.. oh man that was classic! :) I love when mac people say "blah blah,
> we can't get that virus.. blah blah".
I love it when Windows people say "yeah, mine's been infected... lost
data... AGAIN" ;)
<grin>
Don't worry though, I've got a Repentium for comparison (to run GPL on)
as well...
(Actually, that's probably the thing about Windows and Mac people.
Whether they want to or not - usually, they don't, but hey, that's life
- Mac users will always have some hands-on Windows knowledge --
(from their job, local institutions, pc-using neighbours, pre-Mac days
etc). Consequence of this being a Windows-monopolised world, I'm afraid.
Windows users who have hands-on Mac experience (other than maybe just
'mousing around' for two minutes), on the other hand, are pretty rare.
So I'll leave it up to you to figure out who is best placed to make
actual comparisons, hum hum...)
Regards, Rudy
(Mac/Windows/MSX/C64/CP/M/DOS/RT-11/Linux/AppleII/BBC/Sinclair/Tandy/Amiga/NeXT/SGI
user)
I've had to deal with many, many user infections. This Virus is a friggin'
nightmare.
Larry
"Colin Harris" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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> Apparently it all expleded at aroun 6pm GMT (1pm ET) yesterday...I got it,I
> know 3 others who did - anyone in here?
>
> Damn, I lost some stuff before I figured it out......
>
>
Then you probably have it, because it has NOTHING to do with Email.
Larry
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> On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 19:49:24 GMT, "Colin Harris"
> <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
> >Apparently it all expleded at aroun 6pm GMT (1pm ET) yesterday...I gotit, I
> >know 3 others who did - anyone in here?
> >
> No, I don't go near Outhouse Express.
>
> Andrew.
Larry wrote:
>
> I've had to deal with many, many user infections. This Virus is a friggin'
> nightmare.
Personally I consider it a Gold Mine....I get paid to fix this stuff as
it's not covered by the warranty I give on my PC's :-)
Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy
"goyl at nettx dot no"
http://www.theuspits.com
"A man is only as old as the woman he feels........"
--Groucho Marx--
In article <bhkfl6$m8v$[email hidden]>, Ruud Dingemans
<[email hidden]> writes:
>Sorry, couldn't resist on behalf of all other lowly Mac users...
>
>
>(There's even talk that the US power outs could be a result of safety
>overrides in the power grid shutting down because of worm infections;
>dunno if that's true though.)
<slaps Ruud with a trout>
There, I feel MUCH better...<g>
Eldred - recovering from a 27+ hour blackout...
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Larry wrote:
> I've had to deal with many, many user infections. This Virus is a friggin'
> nightmare.
<GRIN>
Sorry, couldn't resist on behalf of all other lowly Mac users...
(There's even talk that the US power outs could be a result of safety
overrides in the power grid shutting down because of worm infections;
dunno if that's true though.)
Regards, Rudy
In article <bhmr90$ndl$[email hidden]>, Ruud Dingemans
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>> Eldred - recovering from a 27+ hour blackout...
>
>
>Any Electrical Withdrawal Symptoms you've noticed? :)
>
A bit... But I ran two online races today, so that helped.<g>
Eldred
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On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 00:06:05 +0200, Ruud Dingemans wrote:
or for us Linux folks ;-) My windows box (98se) is purely for
gaming, all production stuff gets done on Linux.
cheers,
uwe
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> aep@nospam wrote: > >> Sorry, I tend to ignore the specifics of the latest Windows exploits. >> I use a NAT router, a firewall and don't use MS mail/news clients so >> life is a bit less exciting for me :-) > > > One of the benefits for us Mac users is we're almost automatically > immune :) >EldredP wrote:
>>Sorry, couldn't resist on behalf of all other lowly Mac users...
>
> <slaps Ruud with a trout>
>
> There, I feel MUCH better...<g>
<Ouch!> Ok, I deserved that.
..actually, now *I* feel better too. Could you do that again? ;)
> Eldred - recovering from a 27+ hour blackout...
Any Electrical Withdrawal Symptoms you've noticed? :)
Regards, Rudy
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