Does this happen at your house? (steering wheel issue)

Does this happen at your house?? visiting kids, nephews, cousins, lawyers, etc... spot your computer/steering wheel rig. They beg to play on it, you cringe... they beg... eventually you give in and load up Need for Speed (well, they aren't gonna have much fun tearing around in GPL are they?). Now then, your expensive MOMO/Act Labs (insert expensive FF wheel of your choice here) gets thrashed. You beg them to be careful. They are careful for exactly 0.000000001 seconds until they round the next corner slamming the wheel back and forth.... you watch in horror. So, without going all out for a $$ TSW/2 $$, what is the toughest wheel to get? I am considering the Thrustmaster Digital Pro 2, but does Thrustmaster still use the bungee cord system? My first wheel was the old T2 and I recall that the bungee wore out kind of quickly. Of course, if someone wants to make me a good deal on a TSW, just say the word.

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> Does this happen at your house?? visiting kids, nephews, cousins, > lawyers, etc... spot your computer/steering wheel rig. They beg to > play on it, you cringe... they beg... eventually you give in and load > up Need for Speed (well, they aren't gonna have much fun tearing > around in GPL are they?). Now then, your expensive MOMO/Act Labs > (insert expensive FF wheel of your choice here) gets thrashed. You > beg them to be careful. They are careful for exactly 0.000000001 > seconds until they round the next corner slamming the wheel back and > forth.... you watch in horror. > > So, without going all out for a $$ TSW/2 $$, what is the toughest > wheel to get? I am considering the Thrustmaster Digital Pro 2, but > does Thrustmaster still use the bungee cord system? My first wheel > was the old T2 and I recall that the bungee wore out kind of quickly. > Of course, if someone wants to make me a good deal on a TSW, just say > the word.

Go ahead and get you a TSW. Then you, like I do, can say "Do you know how much that particular wheel cost?" LOL! It serves as a good reason to you and them for you to not give into their urge to play. Tell them it is a serious piece of equipment and that they are not skilled enough to handle it. Its not a toy. LOL! That's the best I can do for ya, I ain't parting with my TSW2.

On 13 Aug 2003, Bruce Millar wrote: > Does this happen at your house?? visiting kids, nephews, cousins, > lawyers, etc... spot your computer/steering wheel rig. They beg to > play on it, you cringe... they beg... eventually you give in and load > up Need for Speed (well, they aren't gonna have much fun tearing Buy a used arcade game and put in in the garage to distract them--these are tough enough to deal with mucho abuse. And of course the games are "arcade-y" by definition, so the learning curve is small. There is a newsgroup for game collectors...some can be surprisingly cheap.

My six year old nephew came round last week. I had to persuade the little horror that my lovely leather momo could only be touched if he behaved. Which of course he could never manage so he wasn't allowed anywear near it. I'd much rather him go home crying than me. Some Call Me Tim

Anyone that messes with my racing computer and wheel gets bitch-slapped. But then, I tend to take things pretty seriously. :) -- Tim White www.intracmotorsports.com "Bruce Millar" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Does this happen at your house?? visiting kids, nephews, cousins, > lawyers, etc... spot your computer/steering wheel rig. They beg to > play on it, you cringe... they beg... eventually you give in and load > up Need for Speed (well, they aren't gonna have much fun tearing > around in GPL are they?).

If ya have a second system, buy a cheap wheel, hook it up there and send them there. If not, buy a cheap wheel, config system to have both wheels, put cheapo wheel on when they show. "Bruce Millar" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Does this happen at your house?? visiting kids, nephews, cousins, > lawyers, etc... spot your computer/steering wheel rig. They beg to > play on it, you cringe... they beg... eventually you give in and load > up Need for Speed (well, they aren't gonna have much fun tearing > around in GPL are they?). Now then, your expensive MOMO/Act Labs > (insert expensive FF wheel of your choice here) gets thrashed. You > beg them to be careful. They are careful for exactly 0.000000001 > seconds until they round the next corner slamming the wheel back and > forth.... you watch in horror. > > So, without going all out for a $$ TSW/2 $$, what is the toughest > wheel to get? I am considering the Thrustmaster Digital Pro 2, but > does Thrustmaster still use the bungee cord system? My first wheel > was the old T2 and I recall that the bungee wore out kind of quickly. > Of course, if someone wants to make me a good deal on a TSW, just say > the word.

"Bruce Millar" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Does this happen at your house?? visiting kids, nephews, cousins, > lawyers, etc... spot your computer/steering wheel rig. They beg to > play on it, you cringe... they beg... eventually you give in and load > up Need for Speed (well, they aren't gonna have much fun tearing > around in GPL are they?). Now then, your expensive MOMO/Act Labs > (insert expensive FF wheel of your choice here) gets thrashed. You > beg them to be careful. They are careful for exactly 0.000000001 > seconds until they round the next corner slamming the wheel back and > forth.... you watch in horror.

I now have a "no you cant use the fucking wheel" policy

"Bruce Millar" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Does this happen at your house?? visiting kids, nephews, cousins, > lawyers, etc... spot your computer/steering wheel rig. My kids get to play on the computer and I try to teach them how to do it properly, older kids visit often. Recently my boy has found an interest in NR2K3, Heck I am ready to get him an online ID so he can try it out. My real problem is remembering to change back to my car/driver when he is done. Fortunatly, my Saitek FF wheel seems to be handling it pretty well :-) Wheel auto calibrates in the game so that is very nice, you definetly want to remember to crank the wheel back and forth before you leave the pits or may find yourself holding the wheel at a funny angle for a while. For the most part, after a few minutes on a complex setup like an FF rig on a puter, most folks are ready to go back to their playstation/xbox/nintendo. Sean

"fortco" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<0qv_a.136524$o%2.58951@sccrnsc02>... > If ya have a second system, buy a cheap wheel, hook it up there and send > them there. > > If not, buy a cheap wheel, config system to have both wheels, put cheapo > wheel on when they show. > ...exactly, I do have a second system (networked) and the second system is for the cheapo but "tough" wheel, so non-ff is definitely an option.

Rug rats don't seem to understand limited wheel lock. It was bad enuf with the LWFF (abt. a half-turn L2L), but the MOMO, etc., are almost as bad (the best only do abt. 270 deg. L2L). The salvation? When Gran Turismo 4 is released this fall, ThrustMaster is set to release a GT4-specific wheel with 2-1/2 turns L2L. That oughtta prevent the little monsters from shearing off the limit pins.... "Some Call Me Tim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > My six year old nephew came round last week. I had to persuade the little > horror that my lovely leather momo could only be touched if he behaved. > Which of course he could never manage so he wasn't allowed anywear nearit. > I'd much rather him go home crying than me. > > Some Call Me Tim > >

Yes!! It does. Marc "Bruce Millar" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Does this happen at your house?? visiting kids, nephews, cousins, > lawyers, etc... spot your computer/steering wheel rig. They beg to > play on it, you cringe... they beg... eventually you give in and load > up Need for Speed (well, they aren't gonna have much fun tearing > around in GPL are they?). Now then, your expensive MOMO/Act Labs > (insert expensive FF wheel of your choice here) gets thrashed. You > beg them to be careful. They are careful for exactly 0.000000001 > seconds until they round the next corner slamming the wheel back and > forth.... you watch in horror. > > So, without going all out for a $$ TSW/2 $$, what is the toughest > wheel to get? I am considering the Thrustmaster Digital Pro 2, but > does Thrustmaster still use the bungee cord system? My first wheel > was the old T2 and I recall that the bungee wore out kind of quickly. > Of course, if someone wants to make me a good deal on a TSW, just say > the word.

What do you guys have, weightlifters for relatives or something? Dunno how anyone could break a wheel, unless it was one of those cheapo plastic ones.

"Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:5aA_a.197909$[email hidden]... > Rug rats don't seem to understand limited wheel lock. It was bad enufwith > the LWFF (abt. a half-turn L2L), but the MOMO, etc., are almost as bad(the

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> best only do abt. 270 deg. L2L). > > The salvation? When Gran Turismo 4 is released this fall, ThrustMaster is > set to release a GT4-specific wheel with 2-1/2 turns L2L. That oughtta > prevent the little monsters from shearing off the limit pins.... > > "Some Call Me Tim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > My six year old nephew came round last week. I had to persuade the

little > > horror that my lovely leather momo could only be touched if he behaved. > > Which of course he could never manage so he wasn't allowed anywear near > it. > > I'd much rather him go home crying than me. > > > > Some Call Me Tim Not totally sure at the moment but I think that the wheel you are describing for GT4 is being made by Logitech. I've been keeping my hopes up because if it has analogue paddles ( like their "Driving Force" model ) for acceleration and braking then I'll be first in line. ;o) Elrikk

I bought my kid (2 years old) a Thrustmaster nascar Wheel and Pedals (don't even know which one) for $9.51 off of ebay. It is in excellent shape. My trustworthy T2 is in fine shape. 7 years and going strong with only a spring replacement a couple of years ago. I'm so used to the wheel, I didn't want him tearing it up. I have to go out and buy some blocks so he can reach the pedals. :)

I've got a Microsoft Sidewinder FF for visitors. It's on many miles, about 4 years of abuse and still going strong. The most solid product I've seen. People can lay off my ACT Labs gear :) Matt

Yes, Logi. By then TM may be t.u., according to "information & belief" here on r.a.s. "elrikk" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:yWB_a.70253$[email hidden]...

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> > "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:5aA_a.197909$[email hidden]... > > Rug rats don't seem to understand limited wheel lock. It was bad enuf > with > > the LWFF (abt. a half-turn L2L), but the MOMO, etc., are almost as bad > (the > > best only do abt. 270 deg. L2L). > > > > The salvation? When Gran Turismo 4 is released this fall, ThrustMaster

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> > set to release a GT4-specific wheel with 2-1/2 turns L2L. That oughtta > > prevent the little monsters from shearing off the limit pins.... > > > > "Some Call Me Tim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > My six year old nephew came round last week. I had to persuade the > little > > > horror that my lovely leather momo could only be touched if he

behaved. > > > Which of course he could never manage so he wasn't allowed anywearnear > > it. > > > I'd much rather him go home crying than me. > > > > > > Some Call Me Tim > > Not totally sure at the moment but I think that the wheel you aredescribing > for GT4 is being made by Logitech. I've been keeping my hopes up becauseif > it has analogue paddles ( like their "Driving Force" model ) for > acceleration and braking then I'll be first in line. ;o) > > Elrikk > >

Fido <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>... > What do you guys have, weightlifters for relatives or something? > Dunno how anyone could break a wheel, unless it was one of those > cheapo plastic ones. Don't put anything past a rugrat. I caught my three year old nephew HANGING from my ActLabs with his feet off the floor. A few months later, the wheel eventually snapped off the spindle when I was practicing at Richmond with mondo FF turned on. I can't help but think one led to the other... dang rugrat.

[email hidden] (Bruce Millar) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>... > (well, they aren't gonna have much fun tearing > around in GPL are they?) Actually, you should let them play it. In about 2 second, they will start getting all fidgety and want to go outside or play something else. Problem solved.

So...one vote for a cheap thrustmaster (that is what I am leaning toward buying)... any others? > I bought my kid (2 years old) a Thrustmaster nascar Wheel and Pedals > (don't even know which one) for $9.51 off of ebay. It is in excellent > shape. My trustworthy T2 is in fine shape. 7 years and going strong > with only a spring replacement a couple of years ago.

Bruce...Get an ACT-Labs RS(non-Force). They are on clearance for $9.99 at act-labs.com. That should be tough enough. :) You will need a PC cartridge for it, but act-labs dont sell them anymore. New RS cartridge: check ebay Item # 3040101536 cheap and tough "Bruce Millar" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > "fortco" <[email hidden]> wrote in messagenews:<0qv_a.136524$o%2.58951@sccrnsc02>...

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> > If ya have a second system, buy a cheap wheel, hook it up there and send > > them there. > > > > If not, buy a cheap wheel, config system to have both wheels, put cheapo > > wheel on when they show. > > > ...exactly, I do have a second system (networked) and the second > system is for the cheapo but "tough" wheel, so non-ff is definitely an > option.

On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 13:51:08 GMT, SimRacer wrote: > > Go ahead and get you a TSW. Then you, like I do, can say "Do you know how > much that particular wheel cost?" LOL! It serves as a good reason to you and > them for you to not give into their urge to play. Tell them it is a serious > piece of equipment and that they are not skilled enough to handle it. Its > not a toy. LOL! I heartily agree. Whenever I drop the 350 Euro price tag of my TSW2 Stock (EXCLUDING SHIPPING ;-), people do tend to go a bit more careful on your rig. Also, loading up a *real* sim usually helps because people know that race cars should be driven differently ;-) All the best, uwe -- mail replies to Uwe at schuerkamp dot de ( yahoo address is spambox) Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

"Bruce Millar" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > So, without going all out for a $$ TSW/2 $$, what is the toughest > wheel to get? I am considering the Thrustmaster Digital Pro 2, but > does Thrustmaster still use the bungee cord system? My first wheel > was the old T2 and I recall that the bungee wore out kind of quickly. > Of course, if someone wants to make me a good deal on a TSW, just say > the word. I was thinking one of those cheapie Saitek wheels... If something breaks, scream in horror "Oh, no, what HAVE YOU DONE!!?!?!" They will run in there... and hopefully offer to pay you $$$ and tell the kid to NEVER to that again. :-D

I have two kids (3 and 5). I also have a logitech gamepad I got for free at work. Guess what I let them use?