Need Video Card Advice-Hardware Guru HELP!!!!!

Running a GeForce MX2 w/64 meg ram..AMD 850..512 ram..win2k pro I don't know which info is important so here it all is: Settings are: Quality-is set for "quality" at opposite end of slider from "performance" Anitliasing is set to "application" oposite end of slider from "4x" Anistropic filter is off Text Sharpening box is not checked Monitor at 60 hz Mipmap at "best performance" Texel value is 3 Question is-are these the best settings? EA games (F1) and NR2003 will not run on this machine. Both will run for a while then CTD. I am NOT a hardware savvy person, so before I start messin' with it I would appreciate any advice...TIA Kevin (aka tlgtr) **** "A GOOD friend will come bail you out of jail... but, a TRUE friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn we screwed up!!!!."

Before we start...have you ANY money to upgrade with..? That graphic card is horrendous,but just about matches the rest of your system lol. Not being funny,but you get what you pay for in gaming and you will get low low fps if any at all. Best of luck but its not luck you need its an upgrade. AD

On 14 Aug 2003 01:46:42 GMT, [email hidden] (TlgtrProd) wrote: >Running a GeForce MX2 w/64 meg ram..AMD 850..512 ram..win2k pro >Which NVidia drivers are you using? Maybe try different ones. They won't speed up that slow video card, but may help with the CTD's. If you have a VIA chipset on your motherboard, do you have the VIA drivers loaded? Andrew.

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> Running a GeForce MX2 w/64 meg ram..AMD 850..512 ram..win2k pro > > I don't know which info is important so here it all is: > > Settings are: > Quality-is set for "quality" at opposite end of slider from "performance" > Anitliasing is set to "application" oposite end of slider from "4x" > Anistropic filter is off > Text Sharpening box is not checked > Monitor at 60 hz > Mipmap at "best performance" > Texel value is 3 > > Question is-are these the best settings? EA games (F1) and NR2003 will not run > on this machine. Both will run for a while then CTD. I am NOT a hardware > savvy person, so before I start messin' with it I would appreciate any > advice...TIA

The other advice received so far in this thread is good. This is a poor video card for gaming (but that does not explain the crashes - it is just slow), and you may also need to ensure that the correct chipset drivers are installed. You may also want to check that you have the Win2k / AMD AGP bug fixed. The bug is explained on: http://makeashorterlink.com/?A61736695 and you can download a pre-made registry fix on: http://makeashorterlink.com/?S14752695 Ian -- Ian Riches Bedford, UK

Set antialiasing to at least 2x, 4x if you can, make sure vertical sync is off Keep your monitor refresh rate as high as possible (72 up from 60 Hz if you can). And good luck! J.R.

On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 15:40:24 +0800, "J.R." <[email hidden]> wrote: >Set antialiasing to at least 2x, 4x if you can, make sure vertical sync is >off >Enable FSAA on an old GeForce???? Are you mad? Also, disabling V-Sync is pointless as his framerate won't be anywhere near his refresh rate. Andrew.

<aep@nospam writeme.com> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 15:40:24 +0800, "J.R." <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > >Set antialiasing to at least 2x, 4x if you can, make sure vertical syncis > >off > > > Enable FSAA on an old GeForce???? Are you mad? Also, disabling V-Sync > is pointless as his framerate won't be anywhere near his refresh rate. > > Andrew. Heheh, it worked on my old machine! :) J.R.

OK, downloaded the AMD/AGP patch will install tonite... Where do I look for the VIA chipset? Using the newest nvidia drivers (44.05?) I have looked at upgrades to the newer GForce w/128mg...the "TI" something or other...but which one? Kevin (aka tlgtr) **** "A GOOD friend will come bail you out of jail... but, a TRUE friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn we screwed up!!!!."

TlgtrProd ([email hidden]) wrote... > OK, downloaded the AMD/AGP patch will install tonite... Good! > Where do I look for the VIA chipset? The chipset driver that you (may) need will depend on which motherboard you have. Do you know? *IF* you have a Via chipset, then you can download the so-called 4- in-1 Via Hyperion drivers from: http://www.viaarena.com/?PageID=2 > Using the newest nvidia drivers (44.05?) The newest official drivers are now 45.23. > I have looked at upgrades to the newer GForce w/128mg...the "TI" something or > other...but which one? Depends on your pocket / likely future upgrade path etc. For an 850MHz machine, something like a secondhand Geforce 3 Ti500 would be a good match, IMHO. Look on e-bay. Ian -- Ian Riches Bedford, UK

There is absolutely no worldly reason to run anything after 30.82 for the old GF2MX cards.....in fact, 4X.XX drivers actually run slower ith those outdated cards. -- Biz "Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular structures,....and the....." - Ash "TlgtrProd" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > OK, downloaded the AMD/AGP patch will install tonite... > > Where do I look for the VIA chipset? > > Using the newest nvidia drivers (44.05?) > > I have looked at upgrades to the newer GForce w/128mg...the "TI" something or > other...but which one? > Kevin (aka tlgtr) > **** > "A GOOD friend will come bail you out of jail... but, a TRUE friend will be > sitting next to you saying, "Damn we screwed up!!!!."

Go find that geforce Tweak util... dang forget the 2 I have tried... there is the newer one found on 3dgamers, what a hassle to get to (dialup anyway) Guru3d I think you can find one, it is older, but so is your card/system. HTH.. the default fast thing seems to be good. if not there used to be a post, might find it with google, back when the gf2's were "newish and NR03 was too?" that described optimal settings (controlpanel & in game for NR200x). You may not be playing NR, but the settings would be a good starting point for performance. crashes, 2 things scream at me. Heat and bad Power supply. heat is easy to prove take side case off, take living room fan and point... :P With the P/S, about have to do trial and error, AFAIK. "Biz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:amN_a.100244$[email hidden]... > There is absolutely no worldly reason to run anything after 30.82 for theold GF2MX cards.....in

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> fact, 4X.XX drivers actually run slower ith those outdated cards. > -- > Biz > > "Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand > alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular structures,....and > the....." - Ash > > > "TlgtrProd" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > OK, downloaded the AMD/AGP patch will install tonite... > > > > Where do I look for the VIA chipset? > > > > Using the newest nvidia drivers (44.05?) > > > > I have looked at upgrades to the newer GForce w/128mg...the "TI"

something or > > other...but which one? > > Kevin (aka tlgtr) > > **** > > "A GOOD friend will come bail you out of jail... but, a TRUE friendwill be > > sitting next to you saying, "Damn we screwed up!!!!." > >

Why would the machine CTD in only those 2 games? Both let me play a little then boom CTD. NR2002 runs just fine..... Actually getting a little better FPS with new drivers and 9.0b directx... very playable. Would one of the newer GF cards work with my machine or would I be overloading it? Kevin (aka tlgtr) **** "A GOOD friend will come bail you out of jail... but, a TRUE friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn we screwed up!!!!."

Hey I read this, and I thought about another thing I been hearing... does it happen to happen at any specific "thing" happening on the track? there were lost of guys fighting sound problems... You could try this... take max sounds (in game setting "options>sound) down to 8, OR even better turn off the sounds in game altogether, then see if it quits crashing... I think that I was getting a shudder in 03 when I had my max sounds turned up on my older system, that I hadn't gotten in 02. usually if I hit or backfired while spotter talk and screeching sounds all at once, I would get a shudder... so I used to use max sounds of 10. One caveat!! ...---> that was my POS vortex 2 cards though... they were unsupported since n4 anyway LOL... never really tested much with my audigy gamer I bought to replace it. I upgraded the whole PC about then... I have that Audigy gamer still in box, a waste of 90 bucks as I ended up with onboard sound anyway, and you know... when it aint broke, don't go fixin on it. Good luck --Sting32 "TlgtrProd" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Why would the machine CTD in only those 2 games? Both let me play alittle > then boom CTD. NR2002 runs just fine..... > > Actually getting a little better FPS with new drivers and 9.0b directx...very > playable. > > Would one of the newer GF cards work with my machine or would I beoverloading > it? > Kevin (aka tlgtr) > **** > "A GOOD friend will come bail you out of jail... but, a TRUE friend willbe > sitting next to you saying, "Damn we screwed up!!!!."

To clarify my last question in the previous message.... Will my machine run one of the newer GF cards? Aside from cost is there any specific reason I should go for the older card over a newer one? (Don't get me wrong, I don't want to overpay for a card, but if one of the newer ones will safely do the job I like the idea of being able to return it if something goes wrong..).. Kevin (aka tlgtr) **** "A GOOD friend will come bail you out of jail... but, a TRUE friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn we screwed up!!!!."

Kevin, Oh heck man, I overlooked _that_ question, *ONLY* because I was only thinking your problem could easily follow you to the new card. if it heat, or driver, irq or sound card problem, or hell - what if it a corrupt NR03 file? IIRC, a lot people fought the soundcard IRQ sharing problem. FWIW... My bud has just bought (within a 1.5 months ago) a Wal-Mart closeout -plain Jane HP pavilion with 1.4 or 1.6 AMD - onboard sound - onboard Intel vid card - 128 meg ram - and XP home - Cheap! NR2003 ran fine with everything turned down or off, **Except** if he tried Dega or Tona. Well it crashed to desktop every time loading dega or tona. He could run any other track, but those 2. (& we did a lot online, until next payday BTW) 2 weeks of us racing other tracks, he went back out to Wal-Mart, & grabbed a gf fx 5200 ($61 on Price watch Cost 100 at Wal-Mart LOL). --NOTE-- Not really anything better than you got now vid card wise, by the specs. But he can run dega-tona now. ran anything but dega tona without it though? Makes a person go Hmmmm. He added 256 meg stick of mem later, says it made one hell of a difference in the load time, and helped the frames... I haven't seen it since I helped install the vid card. So, I still I doubt your problem is the vid card, but hell It could be. I was running a p2 1000 with GF2 mx 32meg, ran perfectly... So good luck. --sting32

Did the AMD/AGP registry fix with no change... I really don't think it is heat related as I can race in SCGT for 3+ hours at a time with no problem and I spent 3 and 1/2 hours doing Watkins Glen in NR02 with no crashing...maybe time to look at a mboard and chip upgrade?? (Hope I can upgrade as I just got a new Soundbaster and CD Burner..)..Got to be careful with $ if I am going to go to Sebring next spring... Any recomendations as to what I should go up to? Would like to run NR03 and new mod's and F1 games and mod's? Kevin (aka tlgtr) **** "A GOOD friend will come bail you out of jail... but, a TRUE friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn we screwed up!!!!."

Just for the record tha AMD/AGP patch screwed up my computer bad.... Kevin (aka tlgtr) **** "A GOOD friend will come bail you out of jail... but, a TRUE friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn we screwed up!!!!."

To clarify...now my NR02 hangs up any time I try to adjust anything...car, driver etc..started up and went thru to race OK but when I tried to export standings it locked up...reinstalled and restored season and car files...locked up again...from what my local 'experts' say looking at system reinstall...may go to xp and just buy a new copy of Office... Should have known better than to mess with the registry... Kevin (aka tlgtr) **** "A GOOD friend will come bail you out of jail... but, a TRUE friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn we screwed up!!!!."