Thanks for Your Help with F1C Multiplayer

Thanks everybody: I hosted, and drove, my virst online F1C race last night, at Indy. Great stuff. Despite my frame rate, which is about half what everyone is used to, everyone seems to have had a good time. I'm proudest to say, I didn't knock anyone off the track. I did get punted from behind on the first lap. Probably caused by my overcautious breaking approaching turn 6, but the guy wouldn't have been behind me if he hadn't gone into the gravel on turn 4, so it's not all my fault. Anyway. Some questions: Are the different strengths of teams maintained in online races? With Minardi drivers at a disadvantage compared to Ferrari drivers? Driving nose cam adds tremendously to my ability to tell what the car is doing. I've gone round and round with Dave Henrie about this and we don't agree. You've heard the arguments. Nose cam is also a substantial boost to my modest frame rates. One piece of information that is missing is the mirrors. Is there a way to have mirrors on the nose cam view so I can use it in a race? I seem to be able to host races with no problem, but getting into other people's races is hit and miss. Sometimes nothing happens, I just sit in the lobby after selecting a race. Sometimes I can select a team, but find 8 pictures of Ferrari drivers to choose from, and am always immediately booted to desktop when I choose one. Sometimes I'm booted to the desktop after selecting a driver when only two are shown. Sometimes I get into someone else's race with no problem. Any idea what's happening? In the lobby some races are displayed in red, most in white, some have purple dots, all have something like "3/16" under "Players". What do these designate, and how does the creator of a session manipulate these values? I just want to thank everyone who helped me get into this sim. Thanks Larry

"Larry Lindstrom" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > Anyway. Some questions: > > Are the different strengths of teams maintained > in online races? With Minardi drivers at a > disadvantage compared to Ferrari drivers? Yes, with the default install However, the Minardi drivers can run with Ferrari physics by copying the 2002_Ferrari.hdv file from the SeasonData\Vehicles\Ferrari\2002_F2002 folder to the SeasonData\Vehicles\Minardi\2002_PS02 folder and renaming it to 2002_Minardi.hdv You also need to copy the engine.ini file from the Ferrari folder to the Minardi folder. If both the host and player don't do this, then you'll see mismatch messages.

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> > Driving nose cam adds tremendously to my > ability to tell what the car is doing. I've gone > round and round with Dave Henrie about this and we > don't agree. You've heard the arguments. Nose > cam is also a substantial boost to my modest frame > rates. One piece of information that is missing is > the mirrors. Is there a way to have mirrors on the > nose cam view so I can use it in a race?

Not that I know of.

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> > I seem to be able to host races with no problem, > but getting into other people's races is hit and miss. > Sometimes nothing happens, I just sit in the lobby > after selecting a race. Sometimes I can select a > team, but find 8 pictures of Ferrari drivers to > choose from, and am always immediately booted to > desktop when I choose one. Sometimes I'm booted > to the desktop after selecting a driver when only two > are shown. Sometimes I get into someone else's race > with no problem. Any idea what's happening?

Sounds like you have Fidelity Unilateral Neutralizer set to 1 in your .plr file. That will show all teams and drivers from all 4 seasons. Don't know why it would boot you to desktop, though. > > In the lobby some races are displayed in red, most > in white, some have purple dots, all have something > like "3/16" under "Players". What do these designate, > and how does the creator of a session manipulate these > values? The races displayed in red are password protected and in white are not. Go here to see how to set a password: http://www.murchisons.net/f1/layout/Multiplayer%20Guide.htm Not sure what's causing the purple dots, probably a non-standard setting on the host's installation. 3/16 shows the number of players in the race (3) out of the total allowed (16). > > I just want to thank everyone who helped me get > into this sim. > > Thanks > Larry

Bill Worrel wrote:

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> > "Larry Lindstrom" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > > Anyway. Some questions: > > > > Are the different strengths of teams maintained > > in online races? With Minardi drivers at a > > disadvantage compared to Ferrari drivers? > > Yes, with the default install > > However, the Minardi drivers can run with Ferrari physics by copying the > 2002_Ferrari.hdv file from the SeasonData\Vehicles\Ferrari\2002_F2002 folder > to the SeasonData\Vehicles\Minardi\2002_PS02 folder and renaming it to > 2002_Minardi.hdv > > You also need to copy the engine.ini file from the Ferrari folder to the > Minardi folder. > > If both the host and player don't do this, then you'll see mismatch > messages. > > > > > Driving nose cam adds tremendously to my > > ability to tell what the car is doing. I've gone > > round and round with Dave Henrie about this and we > > don't agree. You've heard the arguments. Nose > > cam is also a substantial boost to my modest frame > > rates. One piece of information that is missing is > > the mirrors. Is there a way to have mirrors on the > > nose cam view so I can use it in a race? > > Not that I know of. > > > > > I seem to be able to host races with no problem, > > but getting into other people's races is hit and miss. > > Sometimes nothing happens, I just sit in the lobby > > after selecting a race. Sometimes I can select a > > team, but find 8 pictures of Ferrari drivers to > > choose from, and am always immediately booted to > > desktop when I choose one. Sometimes I'm booted > > to the desktop after selecting a driver when only two > > are shown. Sometimes I get into someone else's race > > with no problem. Any idea what's happening? > > Sounds like you have Fidelity Unilateral Neutralizer set to 1 in your .plr > file. That will show all teams and drivers from all 4 seasons. Don't know > why it would boot you to desktop, though.

Thanks Bill: Most of the time I have only 2 team members to choose from, and get to race. But having 8 drivers, and the boot to desktop, isn't exactly a rare occurrence.

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> > In the lobby some races are displayed in red, most > > in white, some have purple dots, all have something > > like "3/16" under "Players". What do these designate, > > and how does the creator of a session manipulate these > > values? > > The races displayed in red are password protected and in white are not. > Go here to see how to set a password: > http://www.murchisons.net/f1/layout/Multiplayer%20Guide.htm > > Not sure what's causing the purple dots, probably a non-standard setting on > the host's installation. > > 3/16 shows the number of players in the race (3) out of the total allowed > (16).

I've never been asked how many drivers I want in a race I host. Is this something I set? Or does the game calculate the number my computer and connection can support? I know what a "ping" is. I'm not sure what F1C thinks a ping is. I was assuming it is the ping time between myself and the host. But refreshing the game search can result in radically different numbers for the same game from one scan to the next. Thanks Larry