Mosport

Where can I find the track Mosport for LM2002 to download? Bo

On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 18:25:39 +0200, "Bo Johansen" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Where can I find the track Mosport for LM2002 to download? > >Bo > There's a British guy on Speed who insists that it's pronounced "MOS-port", when everyone else on that channel says "MO-sport". Kind of bugs me... More on topic: what changes are there between the GPL version and what it looks like today for the Trans-Am guys? John DiFool

<snip< > There's a British guy on Speed who insists that it's pronounced > "MOS-port", when everyone else on that channel says "MO-sport". > Kind of bugs me... Having lived 20 minutes from Mosport for 40+ years, it has always been pronounced MOS-port, as in Stirling Moss :-) Edward

I live close by as well and it is MOS-port. So tell those announcers to smarten up. :-) Pete "EdwardC" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:4Ds2b.265838$[email hidden]...

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> > > Having lived 20 minutes from Mosport for 40+ years, it has always been > pronounced MOS-port, as in Stirling Moss :-) > > Edward > >

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> On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 18:25:39 +0200, "Bo Johansen" <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > >Where can I find the track Mosport for LM2002 to download? > > > >Bo > > > > There's a British guy on Speed who insists that it's pronounced > "MOS-port", when everyone else on that channel says "MO-sport". > Kind of bugs me... > > More on topic: what changes are there between the GPL version > and what it looks like today for the Trans-Am guys? > > John DiFool > >

I was just there for the ALMS weekend (went for the first time last year too), and as far as I know, the only change to the track over the years has been a flattening of the hump on the long back straight, seeing as how cars were catching air there. Fantastic track to visit and see a race. It amazed me at how close you can get to the track at some places. MO-sport! If it was MOSS-port, it'd be spelt with two S's. ;) -- MRSisson LOAD "GPL",8,1 RUN

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> I live close by as well and it is MOS-port. So tell those > announcers to smarten up. :-) > > Pete > > "EdwardC" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:4Ds2b.265838$[email hidden].. > . >> >> >> Having lived 20 minutes from Mosport for 40+ years, it has >> always been >> pronounced MOS-port, as in Stirling Moss :-) >> >> Edward >> >> > >

When the track was built (and I was a little younger than I am today <g>), Stirling Moss was still an active driver. The track was *not* named after him (although many would argue that it was only right and fitting that it be). The track name is a contraction of "Motor Sport". As another poster has already pointed out, if it had been named after Moss, it would have been spelled with two "S"s -- Mossport (Moss Port) -- what the hell does "port" have to do with motor racing? Or it would have been spelled with three "S"s -- Mosssport (Moss Sport) -- which looks extremely odd but at least makes some syntactic sense. For the Moss fans in the crowd, the "hairpin" at the farthest ond of the track from the Start/Finish line has been known as "Moss Corner" since the track opened. Some few years later (IIRC), the "straight" was named after Mario Andretti. I note on the latest track map from www.mosport.com that some of the other corners have acquired names since I was last there. I wonder who Clayton is/was? Corner two is named "Clayton Corner". Hmmm... I have been pronouncing it as Mo-sport even since 1966. I don't care how close you happen to live, if you've got your facts wrong, you've got your facts wrong, and proximity to the track don't change that. Sorry. OTOH, it really isn't worth getting your knickers in a knot over, is it? Either way you say it, no one is going to mistake it for some other track. I get continually confused between RA (Road America) and RA (Road Atlanta), for example, and it doesn't matter if you say "RA" or "Road A". <g> I'm voting for one of those tracks to suffer a name change. -- Darryl

"Darryl Johnson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Viw2b.3220$[email hidden]...

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> Pete wrote in news:8Vt2b.1684$[email hidden]: > > > I live close by as well and it is MOS-port. So tell those > > announcers to smarten up. :-) > > > > Pete > > > > "EdwardC" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:4Ds2b.265838$[email hidden].. > > . > >> > >> > >> Having lived 20 minutes from Mosport for 40+ years, it has > >> always been > >> pronounced MOS-port, as in Stirling Moss :-) > >> > >> Edward > >> > >> > > > > > > When the track was built (and I was a little younger than I am today > <g>), Stirling Moss was still an active driver. The track was *not* > named after him (although many would argue that it was only right and > fitting that it be). The track name is a contraction of "Motor > Sport". As another poster has already pointed out, if it had been > named after Moss, it would have been spelled with two "S"s -- > Mossport (Moss Port) -- what the hell does "port" have to do with > motor racing? Or it would have been spelled with three "S"s -- > Mosssport (Moss Sport) -- which looks extremely odd but at least > makes some syntactic sense. > > For the Moss fans in the crowd, the "hairpin" at the farthest ond of > the track from the Start/Finish line has been known as "Moss Corner" > since the track opened. Some few years later (IIRC), the "straight" > was named after Mario Andretti. I note on the latest track map from > www.mosport.com that some of the other corners have acquired names > since I was last there. I wonder who Clayton is/was? Corner two is > named "Clayton Corner". Hmmm... > > I have been pronouncing it as Mo-sport even since 1966. I don't care > how close you happen to live, if you've got your facts wrong, you've > got your facts wrong, and proximity to the track don't change that. > Sorry. > > OTOH, it really isn't worth getting your knickers in a knot over, is > it? Either way you say it, no one is going to mistake it for some > other track. I get continually confused between RA (Road America) and > RA (Road Atlanta), for example, and it doesn't matter if you say > "RA" or "Road A". <g> > > I'm voting for one of those tracks to suffer a name change. > -- > Darryl

I wasn't saying it was named after Stirling, merely using his last name for pronounciation purposes. But you are correct, no matter how you say it, people will know which track you are speaking of, but to me it will always be Mos-port :-) Cheers Edward

I live right next to the towns of Saline and Ypsilanti. Residents pronounce these towns as "suh-leen" and "ipsilantee" but people who live even 20 minutes away think they are pronounced "sayleen" and "yipsilantee". So sorry, don't mean to trivialize what you say, but I have living proof that 20 minutes away isn't close enough to mean that you know. How do the track owners pronounce it? As was pointed out elsewhere, it's a contraction of motor-sport, therefore it seems logical that it would be pronounced "moe-sport". Just like Motown. It's not "mah-town", it's "moe-town". Same thing. Anyway, just my opinion. "EdwardC" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:4Ds2b.265838$[email hidden]...

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> > > Having lived 20 minutes from Mosport for 40+ years, it has always been > pronounced MOS-port, as in Stirling Moss :-) > > Edward > >

LMAO You say it your way. Just don't ask for directions to the track from anyone leaving near by. Pete "Darryl Johnson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Viw2b.3220$[email hidden]...

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> Pete wrote in news:8Vt2b.1684$[email hidden]: > > When the track was built (and I was a little younger than I am today > <g>), Stirling Moss was still an active driver. The track was *not* > named after him (although many would argue that it was only right and > fitting that it be). The track name is a contraction of "Motor > Sport". As another poster has already pointed out, if it had been > named after Moss, it would have been spelled with two "S"s -- > Mossport (Moss Port) -- what the hell does "port" have to do with > motor racing? Or it would have been spelled with three "S"s -- > Mosssport (Moss Sport) -- which looks extremely odd but at least > makes some syntactic sense. > > For the Moss fans in the crowd, the "hairpin" at the farthest ond of > the track from the Start/Finish line has been known as "Moss Corner" > since the track opened. Some few years later (IIRC), the "straight" > was named after Mario Andretti. I note on the latest track map from > www.mosport.com that some of the other corners have acquired names > since I was last there. I wonder who Clayton is/was? Corner two is > named "Clayton Corner". Hmmm... > > I have been pronouncing it as Mo-sport even since 1966. I don't care > how close you happen to live, if you've got your facts wrong, you've > got your facts wrong, and proximity to the track don't change that. > Sorry. > > OTOH, it really isn't worth getting your knickers in a knot over, is > it? Either way you say it, no one is going to mistake it for some > other track. I get continually confused between RA (Road America) and > RA (Road Atlanta), for example, and it doesn't matter if you say > "RA" or "Road A". <g> > > I'm voting for one of those tracks to suffer a name change. > -- > Darryl

I lived 5 minutes away is that close enough? Pete "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I live right next to the towns of Saline and Ypsilanti. Residentspronounce > these towns as "suh-leen" and "ipsilantee" but people who live even 20 > minutes away think they are pronounced "sayleen" and "yipsilantee". So > sorry, don't mean to trivialize what you say, but I have living proof that > 20 minutes away isn't close enough to mean that you know. How do thetrack > owners pronounce it? As was pointed out elsewhere, it's a contraction of > motor-sport, therefore it seems logical that it would be pronounced > "moe-sport". Just like Motown. It's not "mah-town", it's "moe-town".Same

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> thing. Anyway, just my opinion. > > > "EdwardC" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:4Ds2b.265838$[email hidden]... > > > > > > Having lived 20 minutes from Mosport for 40+ years, it has always been > > pronounced MOS-port, as in Stirling Moss :-) > > > > Edward > > > > > >

>"Michael R Sisson" <[email hidden]> wrote > I was just there for the ALMS weekend (went for the first time last year > too), and as far as I know, the only change to the track over the years > has been a flattening of the hump on the long back straight, seeing as > how cars were catching air there. Hmm. Pretty much the entire track has been changed, track wise. No corner have been really modified (the layout is the same), but they have all been changed in the way the camber acts, the elevation, track width, etc... -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- http://ymenard.cjb.net/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

Oh all right. ;o) "Pete" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Gfy2b.3117$[email hidden]... > I lived 5 minutes away is that close enough? > > Pete

I had never thought much about it before this thread got going but I have never heard anyone local ever call it anything else. I can't say there aren't local people who pronounce it MO-sport or I can't comment on the origins of the pronounciation(although I do remember Moss saying that it had nothing to do with him). It does seem odd that outsiders pronounce it one way and locals another. Pete "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Oh all right. ;o) >

Pete wrote: > I had never thought much about it before this thread got going > but I have never heard anyone local ever call it anything else. > I can't say there aren't local people who pronounce it MO-sport > or I can't comment on the origins of the pronounciation(although I > do remember Moss saying that it had nothing to do with him). ISTR that it's name is derived from a shortened version of Motorsport hence the MO-sport pronunciation opinion.

Yah, what's thaht aboot, eh? You guys are certainly the experts on pronunciation. ;o) "Pete" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:PFA2b.3891$[email hidden]... > > It does seem odd that outsiders pronounce it one way and locals > another. > > Pete >

Never said we were the experts. I'm just telling how they pronounce it. For all I care people can call it Mooseport. Just as long as they know where it is and what its used for. Pete "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Yah, what's thaht aboot, eh? You guys are certainly the experts on > pronunciation. ;o) > >

Mooseport it is! ;o) "Pete" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:diR2b.2099$[email hidden]... > Never said we were the experts. I'm just telling how they pronounceit. > For all I care people can call it Mooseport. Just as long as they know > where it is and what its used for. >

On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 22:44:05 GMT, Darryl Johnson <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>OTOH, it really isn't worth getting your knickers in a knot over, is >it? Either way you say it, no one is going to mistake it for some >other track. I get continually confused between RA (Road America) and >RA (Road Atlanta), for example, and it doesn't matter if you say >"RA" or "Road A". <g> > >I'm voting for one of those tracks to suffer a name change.

Yea, and in the UK Liecester is pronounced "lester" and not lie-chester. Most people say Mos-port and not Mo-sport regardless of it's origin.

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> On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 22:44:05 GMT, Darryl Johnson > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >>OTOH, it really isn't worth getting your knickers in a knot over, >>is it? Either way you say it, no one is going to mistake it for >>some other track. I get continually confused between RA (Road >>America) and RA (Road Atlanta), for example, and it doesn't matter >>if you say "RA" or "Road A". <g> >> >>I'm voting for one of those tracks to suffer a name change. > > Yea, and in the UK Liecester is pronounced "lester" and not > lie-chester. Most people say Mos-port and not Mo-sport regardless > of it's origin. >

You've done a survey have you? Most of the people -- that I know -- say "Mo-sport". Obviously, we hang with different crowds. <VBG> -- Darryl

In article <[email hidden]>, "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> writes: >I live right next to the towns of Saline and Ypsilanti. Residents pronounce >these towns as "suh-leen" and "ipsilantee" but people who live even 20 >minutes away think they are pronounced "sayleen" and "yipsilantee". I pronounce it "ipsituckee"... <ducking> Eldred -- "A voice from the crowd: Right, everyone out of my garden. I've had enough of this!" Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank -2.4 N2k3 rank ? Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

LOL, yeah and it's not far from Taylortuckee either... ;o) "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > I pronounce it "ipsituckee"... > <ducking> > > Eldred > -- > "A voice from the crowd: Right, everyone out of my garden. I've had > enough of this!" > > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPLRank -2.4 > N2k3 rank ? > > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 20:34:25 GMT, Darryl Johnson <[email hidden]> wrote: >You've done a survey have you? Most of the people -- that I know -- >say "Mo-sport". Obviously, we hang with different crowds. <VBG> The difference being I also lived not far from Mosport and everyone that lives in that area pronounces it as Mos-port. When in Rome do as the Romans do, and all that. You and your friends are obviously out of the loop and clueless.

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> On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 20:34:25 GMT, Darryl Johnson > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >>You've done a survey have you? Most of the people -- that I know >>-- say "Mo-sport". Obviously, we hang with different crowds. <VBG> > > The difference being I also lived not far from Mosport and > everyone that lives in that area pronounces it as Mos-port. When > in Rome do as the Romans do, and all that. You and your friends > are obviously out of the loop and clueless. >

In some areas, the word "route" is pronounced "rout", and in other areas it is pronounced "root". I like to say "rout" because the terminal "e" has a traditional use to indicate a long vowel sound in the preceeding sylable or word root. However, there are probably more people -- if we were to count them -- who use the "short" vowel sound and who say "rout". Which group is "out of the loop and clueless", pray tell? I once went to a meeting of the "Flat Earth Society". Interesting group! If you're interested, everyone in the room professed to believe that the earth was flat. Using your arguement, since everyone in the area believed that, that would mean that the rest of the world was "out of the loop and clueless". I think we ought to ask the Chinese how *they* pronounce it. There are, after all, way more of them than there are of us (assuming you and I and all your friends in the Mosport area are not of Chinese ancestry). They may not live in the neighbourhood, but they've got the raw numbers if it ever came down to a vote. Or we could poll the Italians and ask them how a Roman would pronounce it. <VBG> As I said before, it makes *so* little difference in the real world -- where you and I are are *obviously* not living at the moment. -- Darryl