My MOMO is busted. Going back to the "red" old Wingman.

I got this MOMO (brand new) from a friend a while ago. It has been working. For months I haven't played anything with my wheel because I was playing with my Xbox. Yesterday I bought an ATI 9800 pro and really want to get back to PC gaming again. I just fired up the wheel but no light comes on. The wheel is not "turned" on as if no power is getting through. The adaptar is warm though. I only paid $25 for it. :-) This is the "black" version with soft rubber on the wheel. I opened that sucker up and saw that it was gear driven!!!!!! Now, I want to get the old "red" cable-driven Wingman from JustDeal. My question is that would it run on WinXP? I once had that same wheel but forgot if it would work with a serial to USB converter????

On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 21:23:20 -0400, "Jan2004" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>I got this MOMO (brand new) from a friend a while ago. It has been working. >For months I haven't played anything with my wheel because I was playing >with my Xbox. Yesterday I bought an ATI 9800 pro and really want to get >back to PC gaming again. I just fired up the wheel but no light comes on. >The wheel is not "turned" on as if no power is getting through. The adaptar >is warm though. I only paid $25 for it. :-) This is the "black" version >with soft rubber on the wheel. I opened that sucker up and saw that it was >gear driven!!!!!! Now, I want to get the old "red" cable-driven Wingman >from JustDeal. My question is that would it run on WinXP? I once had that >same wheel but forgot if it would work with a serial to USB converter???? >

Works fine on XP. I just got one a week or so ago from www.overstock.com for $28.99. At the time they were having a $1 special on shipping so it was a great deal for $30. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "There would be a lot more civility in this world if people didn't take that as an invitation to walk all over you" - (Calvin and Hobbes)

"Jan2004" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:bih167$97iuk$[email hidden]... > I got this MOMO (brand new) from a friend a while ago. It has beenworking. > For months I haven't played anything with my wheel because I was playing > with my Xbox. Yesterday I bought an ATI 9800 pro and really want to get > back to PC gaming again. I just fired up the wheel but no light comes on. > The wheel is not "turned" on as if no power is getting through. Theadaptar > is warm though. I only paid $25 for it. :-) This is the "black" version > with soft rubber on the wheel. I opened that sucker up and saw that itwas > gear driven!!!!!! Now, I want to get the old "red" cable-driven Wingman > from JustDeal. My question is that would it run on WinXP? I once hadthat > same wheel but forgot if it would work with a serial to USB converter???? As far as I know, it will only work under USB, meaning you must use the serial->USB converter. booger

And then when you find one, consider this ball bearing kit as an upgrade http://jensschumi.bravepages.com/LogiCorner.htm My conversion kit is on order. I'll make a post when I receive it and get it installed. "EGK" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 21:23:20 -0400, "Jan2004" <[email hidden]>wrote: > > >I got this MOMO (brand new) from a friend a while ago. It has beenworking. > >For months I haven't played anything with my wheel because I was playing > >with my Xbox. Yesterday I bought an ATI 9800 pro and really want to get > >back to PC gaming again. I just fired up the wheel but no light comeson. > >The wheel is not "turned" on as if no power is getting through. Theadaptar > >is warm though. I only paid $25 for it. :-) This is the "black"version > >with soft rubber on the wheel. I opened that sucker up and saw that itwas > >gear driven!!!!!! Now, I want to get the old "red" cable-driven Wingman > >from JustDeal. My question is that would it run on WinXP? I once hadthat > >same wheel but forgot if it would work with a serial to USB converter???? > > > > Works fine on XP. I just got one a week or so ago from www.overstock.com > for $28.99. At the time they were having a $1 special on shipping so itwas > a great deal for $30. > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > "There would be a lot more civility in this world if people > didn't take that as an invitation to walk all over you" > - (Calvin and Hobbes)

JustDeal does not have it in stock. Do they just take orders and ship it 2 to 3 days later? "booger" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ZKU2b.7819$[email hidden]...

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> "Jan2004" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:bih167$97iuk$[email hidden]... > > I got this MOMO (brand new) from a friend a while ago. It has been > working. > > For months I haven't played anything with my wheel because I was playing > > with my Xbox. Yesterday I bought an ATI 9800 pro and really want to get > > back to PC gaming again. I just fired up the wheel but no light comes

on. > > The wheel is not "turned" on as if no power is getting through. The > adaptar > > is warm though. I only paid $25 for it. :-) This is the "black"version > > with soft rubber on the wheel. I opened that sucker up and saw that it > was > > gear driven!!!!!! Now, I want to get the old "red" cable-driven Wingman > > from JustDeal. My question is that would it run on WinXP? I once had > that > > same wheel but forgot if it would work with a serial to USBconverter????

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> > As far as I know, it will only work under USB, meaning you must use the > serial->USB converter. > > booger > >

Indeed. I couldn't believe ball bearings could make that much improvement. Boy was I WRONG! Alison Hine converted one of my old LWFFs (I gave the spare to her) and it is a completely new experience. Altho I preferred my non-FF ECCI w. GPL, I find the FF info in N2003 so essential I can no longer frive w/o it. I had been driving w. my MOMO (black-rim) and TSW pedals and loving it. Now Jens' ball-bearing conversion (along w. ECCI's E3000 pedals) has made a believer outta me. Don't get a LWFF w/o the ball-bearing kit. "Bob G" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ZMU2b.21230$[email hidden]...

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> And then when you find one, consider this ball bearing kit as an upgrade > http://jensschumi.bravepages.com/LogiCorner.htm > > My conversion kit is on order. I'll make a post when I receive it and get > it installed. > > > "EGK" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 21:23:20 -0400, "Jan2004" <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > > > >I got this MOMO (brand new) from a friend a while ago. It has been > working. > > >For months I haven't played anything with my wheel because I was

playing > > >with my Xbox. Yesterday I bought an ATI 9800 pro and really want toget

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> > >back to PC gaming again. I just fired up the wheel but no light comes > on. > > >The wheel is not "turned" on as if no power is getting through. The > adaptar > > >is warm though. I only paid $25 for it. :-) This is the "black" > version > > >with soft rubber on the wheel. I opened that sucker up and saw that it > was > > >gear driven!!!!!! Now, I want to get the old "red" cable-driven

Wingman > > >from JustDeal. My question is that would it run on WinXP? I once had > that > > >same wheel but forgot if it would work with a serial to USBconverter???? > > > > > > > Works fine on XP. I just got one a week or so ago fromwww.overstock.com

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> > for $28.99. At the time they were having a $1 special on shipping so it > was > > a great deal for $30. > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > > > "There would be a lot more civility in this world if people > > didn't take that as an invitation to walk all over you" > > - (Calvin and Hobbes) > >

Good point for XP users. The LWFF's serial connection just plain won't be recognized. If you get a used LWFF, make sure it includes the little serial-to-USP dongle. It's a two-bit part, but you ain't goin' nowhere w/o it. "booger" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ZKU2b.7819$[email hidden]...

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> "Jan2004" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:bih167$97iuk$[email hidden]... > > I got this MOMO (brand new) from a friend a while ago. It has been > working. > > For months I haven't played anything with my wheel because I was playing > > with my Xbox. Yesterday I bought an ATI 9800 pro and really want to get > > back to PC gaming again. I just fired up the wheel but no light comes

on. > > The wheel is not "turned" on as if no power is getting through. The > adaptar > > is warm though. I only paid $25 for it. :-) This is the "black"version > > with soft rubber on the wheel. I opened that sucker up and saw that it > was > > gear driven!!!!!! Now, I want to get the old "red" cable-driven Wingman > > from JustDeal. My question is that would it run on WinXP? I once had > that > > same wheel but forgot if it would work with a serial to USBconverter????

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> > As far as I know, it will only work under USB, meaning you must use the > serial->USB converter. > > booger > >

"frive"?!?!?!? "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:lAV2b.17970$[email hidden]... > Indeed. I couldn't believe ball bearings could make that muchimprovement. > Boy was I WRONG! Alison Hine converted one of my old LWFFs (I gave the > spare to her) and it is a completely new experience. Altho I preferred my > non-FF ECCI w. GPL, I find the FF info in N2003 so essential I can nolonger > frive w/o it. I had been driving w. my MOMO (black-rim) and TSW pedalsand > loving it. Now Jens' ball-bearing conversion (along w. ECCI's E3000pedals) > has made a believer outta me. Don't get a LWFF w/o the ball-bearing kit. > > "Bob G" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:ZMU2b.21230$[email hidden]... > > And then when you find one, consider this ball bearing kit as anupgrade > > http://jensschumi.bravepages.com/LogiCorner.htm > > > > My conversion kit is on order. I'll make a post when I receive it andget

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> > it installed. > > > > > > "EGK" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 21:23:20 -0400, "Jan2004" <[email hidden]> > > wrote: > > > > > > >I got this MOMO (brand new) from a friend a while ago. It has been > > working. > > > >For months I haven't played anything with my wheel because I was > playing > > > >with my Xbox. Yesterday I bought an ATI 9800 pro and really want to > get > > > >back to PC gaming again. I just fired up the wheel but no light

comes > > on. > > > >The wheel is not "turned" on as if no power is getting through. The > > adaptar > > > >is warm though. I only paid $25 for it. :-) This is the "black" > > version > > > >with soft rubber on the wheel. I opened that sucker up and saw thatit > > was > > > >gear driven!!!!!! Now, I want to get the old "red" cable-driven > Wingman > > > >from JustDeal. My question is that would it run on WinXP? I oncehad

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> > that > > > >same wheel but forgot if it would work with a serial to USB > converter???? > > > > > > > > > > Works fine on XP. I just got one a week or so ago from > www.overstock.com > > > for $28.99. At the time they were having a $1 special on shipping so

it

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> > was > > > a great deal for $30. > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > > > > > > "There would be a lot more civility in this world if people > > > didn't take that as an invitation to walk all over you" > > > - (Calvin and Hobbes) > > > > > >

In article <Yi13b.18723$[email hidden]>, "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> writes: >"frive"?!?!?!? You know, it comes right after "frour"... Eldred -- "A voice from the crowd: Right, everyone out of my garden. I've had enough of this!" Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank -2.4 N2k3 rank ? Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

"EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <Yi13b.18723$[email hidden]>, "Steve Smith" > <[email hidden]> writes: > > >"frive"?!?!?!? > > You know, it comes right after "frour"... Shut the fruck up. booger

> I got this MOMO (brand new) from a friend a while ago. It has beenworking. > For months I haven't played anything with my wheel because I was playing > with my Xbox. Yesterday I bought an ATI 9800 pro and really want to get > back to PC gaming again. I just fired up the wheel but no light comes on. > The wheel is not "turned" on as if no power is getting through. Theadaptar > is warm though. I only paid $25 for it. :-) This is the "black" version > with soft rubber on the wheel. I opened that sucker up and saw that itwas > gear driven!!!!!! Now, I want to get the old "red" cable-driven Wingman > from JustDeal. My question is that would it run on WinXP? I once hadthat > same wheel but forgot if it would work with a serial to USB converter???? Dumb question... was the latest driver installed? If it was, did you verify that XP had correctly identified it? The lights on the MOMO Racing won't light up unless XP has properly detected it, and the driver is loaded. Alan

Yup. In fact, the Wingman software couldn't detect my wheel. If I remember correctly, the first light comes on when there is power. The second light turns on when it is detected by Windows. In my case, none of the light was on at all. "Alan Le" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:sQw3b.8975$[email hidden]... > > I got this MOMO (brand new) from a friend a while ago. It has been > working. > > For months I haven't played anything with my wheel because I was playing > > with my Xbox. Yesterday I bought an ATI 9800 pro and really want to get > > back to PC gaming again. I just fired up the wheel but no light comeson. > > The wheel is not "turned" on as if no power is getting through. The > adaptar > > is warm though. I only paid $25 for it. :-) This is the "black"version > > with soft rubber on the wheel. I opened that sucker up and saw that it > was > > gear driven!!!!!! Now, I want to get the old "red" cable-driven Wingman > > from JustDeal. My question is that would it run on WinXP? I once had > that > > same wheel but forgot if it would work with a serial to USBconverter???? > > Dumb question... was the latest driver installed? If it was, did youverify > that XP had correctly identified it? The lights on the MOMO Racing won't > light up unless XP has properly detected it, and the driver is loaded. > > Alan > >

> Yup. In fact, the Wingman software couldn't detect my wheel. If Iremember > correctly, the first light comes on when there is power. The second light > turns on when it is detected by Windows. In my case, none of the lightwas > on at all. The first light (left one) comes on when the wheel's detected -and- has the driver properly installed. The second light comes on when force feedback is active. Was the wheel detected by Windows at all? If not picked up properly, it should at least appear in the Device Manager as a generic HID-Compliant device. Assuming it does, the next thing to do would be to uninstall the device listed, and unplug the wheel from the USB port. Then, run the Wingman installer (most recent of course), and wait until it gets to the part where it tries to detect the wheel. That's when you can plug it in. This isn't alway necessary, but I've found that the wheel sometimes isn't picked up properly if attached prior to installing the Wingman software. Also, I generally uninstall an old version prior to installing a newer one. Alan

Thanks. Well, WinXP and Wingman can detect the wheel now, for some reasons, BUT no lights come on and no force feedback. :-( "Alan Le" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3rB3b.7313$[email hidden]... > > Yup. In fact, the Wingman software couldn't detect my wheel. If I > remember > > correctly, the first light comes on when there is power. The secondlight > > turns on when it is detected by Windows. In my case, none of the light > was > > on at all. > > The first light (left one) comes on when the wheel's detected -and- hasthe > driver properly installed. The second light comes on when force feedbackis > active. Was the wheel detected by Windows at all? If not picked up > properly, it should at least appear in the Device Manager as a generic > HID-Compliant device. Assuming it does, the next thing to do would be to > uninstall the device listed, and unplug the wheel from the USB port.Then, > run the Wingman installer (most recent of course), and wait until it getsto > the part where it tries to detect the wheel. That's when you can plug it > in. This isn't alway necessary, but I've found that the wheel sometimes > isn't picked up properly if attached prior to installing the Wingman > software. Also, I generally uninstall an old version prior to installinga > newer one. > > Alan > >

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>"EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> In article <Yi13b.18723$[email hidden]>, "Steve Smith" >> <[email hidden]> writes: >> >> >"frive"?!?!?!? >> >> You know, it comes right after "frour"... > >Shut the fruck up. >

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