Waves a flag of truce

I don't know why I'm doing this: it's not as though I've contributed anything much here of late... but speaking as someone who has never been connected with [something beginning with R - Ed], at least you can all join forces and throw insults at me instead. The fact is, this NG is currently more depressing to read than I can remember. Sure, that's only three years, but even so. I subscribe to this group because I greatly enjoy sim racing. I can get flamewars anywhere, but so far as Usenet goes, this is the one and only place for such discussion. And as I say, it's deeply depressing to fire up Xnews every day and find a dozen more threads of (often quite personal) abuse. I fully expect some of the flak now to come in my direction, but I expect I can cope with that... so for heaven's sake, can you please stop this? Hammering out arguments is one thing, and that's fine by me. But as I say, far too much of it is people being thoroughly unpleasant to each other to an extent that really isn't necessary. Oh, and please don't tell me to keep my nose out of something that doesn't concern me. If it's on ras it concerns every ras subscriber. If you don't want to talk to the whole of ras, then you should be talking somewhere else. Okay, open season on me now - I shall be off to other NGs for a while, so you can get a shot in without fear of retaliation. :-( -- Above address *is* valid - but snip spamtrap to get me to *read*! Support the world's oldest motorsport venue! http://www.shelsley-walsh.co.uk/future.html

Well put. I think certain people have forgotten how many people read this newsgroup but just lurk. Thousands probably, maybe tens of thousands. And certain people are having a little catfight in front of all those tens of thousands of silent onlookers. Really embarassing. Although probably also kind of amusing to some. And not in a good way. "David Buttery" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> I don't know why I'm doing this: it's not as though I've contributed > anything much here of late... but speaking as someone who has never > been connected with [something beginning with R - Ed], at least you can > all join forces and throw insults at me instead. > > The fact is, this NG is currently more depressing to read than I can > remember. Sure, that's only three years, but even so. I subscribe to > this group because I greatly enjoy sim racing. I can get flamewars > anywhere, but so far as Usenet goes, this is the one and only place for > such discussion. And as I say, it's deeply depressing to fire up Xnews > every day and find a dozen more threads of (often quite personal) > abuse. > > I fully expect some of the flak now to come in my direction, but I > expect I can cope with that... so for heaven's sake, can you please > stop this? Hammering out arguments is one thing, and that's fine by me. > But as I say, far too much of it is people being thoroughly unpleasant > to each other to an extent that really isn't necessary. > > Oh, and please don't tell me to keep my nose out of something that > doesn't concern me. If it's on ras it concerns every ras subscriber. If > you don't want to talk to the whole of ras, then you should be talking > somewhere else. Okay, open season on me now - I shall be off to other > NGs for a while, so you can get a shot in without fear of retaliation. > :-( > > -- > Above address *is* valid - but snip spamtrap to get me to *read*! > > Support the world's oldest motorsport venue! > http://www.shelsley-walsh.co.uk/future.html

well said David Tim "David Buttery" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> I don't know why I'm doing this: it's not as though I've contributed > anything much here of late... but speaking as someone who has never > been connected with [something beginning with R - Ed], at least you can > all join forces and throw insults at me instead. > > The fact is, this NG is currently more depressing to read than I can > remember. Sure, that's only three years, but even so. I subscribe to > this group because I greatly enjoy sim racing. I can get flamewars > anywhere, but so far as Usenet goes, this is the one and only place for > such discussion. And as I say, it's deeply depressing to fire up Xnews > every day and find a dozen more threads of (often quite personal) > abuse. > > I fully expect some of the flak now to come in my direction, but I > expect I can cope with that... so for heaven's sake, can you please > stop this? Hammering out arguments is one thing, and that's fine by me. > But as I say, far too much of it is people being thoroughly unpleasant > to each other to an extent that really isn't necessary. > > Oh, and please don't tell me to keep my nose out of something that > doesn't concern me. If it's on ras it concerns every ras subscriber. If > you don't want to talk to the whole of ras, then you should be talking > somewhere else. Okay, open season on me now - I shall be off to other > NGs for a while, so you can get a shot in without fear of retaliation. > :-( > > -- > Above address *is* valid - but snip spamtrap to get me to *read*! > > Support the world's oldest motorsport venue! > http://www.shelsley-walsh.co.uk/future.html

On 27 Aug 2003 01:46:56 GMT, David Buttery <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>The fact is, this NG is currently more depressing to read than I can >remember. Sure, that's only three years, but even so. I subscribe to >this group because I greatly enjoy sim racing. I can get flamewars >anywhere, but so far as Usenet goes, this is the one and only place for >such discussion. And as I say, it's deeply depressing to fire up Xnews >every day and find a dozen more threads of (often quite personal) >abuse. >

There were originally only about 3 threads, which anyone with a half decent newsreader could simply just ignore if they chose. The "dozen more threads" are whiners like you who don't understand Usenet who create a pointless new thread moaning about the other threads. Andrew.

aep@nospam writeme.com wrote here on 27 Aug 2003:

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> There were originally only about 3 threads, which anyone with a > half decent newsreader could simply just ignore if they chose. The > "dozen more threads" are whiners like you who don't understand > Usenet who create a pointless new thread moaning about the other > threads. > > Andrew.

Mea culpa so far as not sticking RASCAR in my subject line goes - that's rectified now. However, I think you'll find that XNews is generally considered a half decent newsreader. The rest is just personal abuse, so I'll ignore it. -- Above address *is* valid - but snip spamtrap to get me to *read*! Support the world's oldest motorsport venue! http://www.shelsley-walsh.co.uk/future.html