Re: Calling all hardware gurus.

I don't have any experience with 3 hds. But what format are the drives in. ntfs? if so, win98 won't read them. try formatting them. Steve "Verne "fnugen" Harris" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:JIz5b.11062$[email hidden]... > Okay.............my brother in law's employer was giving away old 4.3g HDs > because they upgraded theirs. He grabbed me 2. I figured I'd done itbefore, > I'd do it again, installing a 2nd HD. First attempt at a 3rd HD. > Well..............no go. I tried what I think is everything and they justdo > NOT show up in my windows explorer. I can get the CMOS to recognize them > under auto detect........it also recognizes them if I manually do it. Upon > boot up it shows my master HD, then it shows the new HDs as both 2ndmaster > and primary slave........then my CDrom as 2nd slave. My primary HD runsoff > the board as does my CDrom......it was set up this way for me.....it just > seems that playing with the jumpers yeilded no drives appearing inwindows. > I am running Win98 and have 2 extra power points and IDE > connections.......so I am assuming that I can run 3 HDs and one CDrom. If > there may be something I am doing wrong.....could someone go over what Iam > supposed to do......or what I may have not done?!?! Thanks guys. Ohyeah,

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> I posted this here, cuz I am only on a couple NGs and most here seem very > voiced in PC......that and not knowing what other NG to look for to ask > advice. > > TIA Verne > >

Okay.............my brother in law's employer was giving away old 4.3g HDs because they upgraded theirs. He grabbed me 2. I figured I'd done it before, I'd do it again, installing a 2nd HD. First attempt at a 3rd HD. Well..............no go. I tried what I think is everything and they just do NOT show up in my windows explorer. I can get the CMOS to recognize them under auto detect........it also recognizes them if I manually do it. Upon boot up it shows my master HD, then it shows the new HDs as both 2nd master and primary slave........then my CDrom as 2nd slave. My primary HD runs off the board as does my CDrom......it was set up this way for me.....it just seems that playing with the jumpers yeilded no drives appearing in windows. I am running Win98 and have 2 extra power points and IDE connections.......so I am assuming that I can run 3 HDs and one CDrom. If there may be something I am doing wrong.....could someone go over what I am supposed to do......or what I may have not done?!?! Thanks guys. Oh yeah, I posted this here, cuz I am only on a couple NGs and most here seem very voiced in PC......that and not knowing what other NG to look for to ask advice. TIA Verne

Okay.............my brother in law's employer was giving away old 4.3g HDs because they upgraded theirs. He grabbed me 2. I figured I'd done it before, I'd do it again, installing a 2nd HD. First attempt at a 3rd HD. Well..............no go. I tried what I think is everything and they just do NOT show up in my windows explorer. I can get the CMOS to recognize them under auto detect........it also recognizes them if I manually do it. Upon boot up it shows my master HD, then it shows the new HDs as both 2nd master and primary slave........then my CDrom as 2nd slave. My primary HD runs off the board as does my CDrom......it was set up this way for me.....it just seems that playing with the jumpers yeilded no drives appearing in windows. I am running Win98 and have 2 extra power points and IDE connections.......so I am assuming that I can run 3 HDs and one CDrom. If there may be something I am doing wrong.....could someone go over what I am supposed to do......or what I may have not done?!?! Thanks guys. Oh yeah, I posted this here, cuz I am only on a couple NGs and most here seem very voiced in PC......that and not knowing what other NG to look for to ask advice. TIA Verne

Be sure you've set the jumper-pins *on* the HDD correctly. - Your *primary* harddisk should be set as MASTER (Do *not* use cable select) and it should be connected to the IDE-0 "channel" - your "D-drive" (i.e secondary HD) should be set as SLAVE and connected to the same cable as your primary disk (i.e IDE-0) - Your third harddisk should be set as MASTER and connected to *IDE-1* - Your CD-rom should be set as SLAVE and be connected to *IDE-1* thru the same cable as your third disk. Once all that is done... hit 'DEL' upon power-up / first-boot and go into the Bios. Find the "drive-set-up screen" and make sure every channel is set to auto-detect the drive type. Save - reboot - enjoy! -- ed_

Bonjour, Ed Solheim <[email hidden]> a ï¿œcrit : > Once all that is done... hit 'DEL' upon power-up / first-boot and > go into the Bios. Find the "drive-set-up screen" and make sure every > channel is set to auto-detect the drive type. And make sure that the *two* controlers are enabled, if there was no drive or CDrom on the second one.

"Verne "fnugen" Harris" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:JIz5b.11062$[email hidden]... > I am running Win98 and have 2 extra power points and IDE > connections.......so I am assuming that I can run 3 HDs and one CDrom. This is what I used to run. I think everything appropriate has been suggested, namely ; 1) Check the jumpers. Since the BIOS is correctly detecting I would assume that to be correct, but better to double check. 2) Check the secondary IDE channel is enabled. 3) Check the drives don't need "FDISK"ed away from NTFS. Again I think that even an NTFS drive would still show up in Win 98, but be unreadable. 4) Try a search on the 'net for the drive's model number, to see if anything needs to be set in Windows as regards a special driver, DMA/PIO settings or whatever. John ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =---

On Thu, 4 Sep 2003 12:18:48 -0700, "Verne \"fnugen\" Harris" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Okay......I tried setting them up as suggested.a dn one it seems may be >FUBAR........but the other just doesn NOT want to be rad. I threw my old >1.8g in that was being removed in favour of these 2....it gets read just >fine shows in windows. Both contrtollers are showing enabled and working >fine, but the HD does not show up in my explorer....the CRrom does still. I >can feel the drive spinning.....so it is working at least. I can't fdisk it >as I have no drive letter to use........DAMN !!! Maybe free stuff costs >more than money, aggravation and TIME, the ultimate price !!!! Ah >well....I'll keep plugging with the ideas.....thanks guys. >

FDISK has nothing to do with drive letters. -- Andrew. To email unscramble [email hidden] & remove spamtrap. Help make Usenet a better place: Check groups.google.com before asking a question. Don't top post. Trim your messages to include only relevent text.

This is very unlikely as the problem but using a program like TweakUI, make sure the drive letter is check marked or enabled, not unchecked or disabled. I would make sure all drive letters, A thru Z, are enabled/checked. On Thu, 4 Sep 2003 01:02:04 -0700, "Verne \"fnugen\" Harris" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Okay.............my brother in law's employer was giving away old 4.3g HDs >because they upgraded theirs. He grabbed me 2. I figured I'd done it before, >I'd do it again, installing a 2nd HD. First attempt at a 3rd HD. >Well..............no go. I tried what I think is everything and they just do >NOT show up in my windows explorer. I can get the CMOS to recognize them >under auto detect........it also recognizes them if I manually do it. Upon >boot up it shows my master HD, then it shows the new HDs as both 2nd master >and primary slave........then my CDrom as 2nd slave. My primary HD runs off >the board as does my CDrom......it was set up this way for me.....it just >seems that playing with the jumpers yeilded no drives appearing in windows. >I am running Win98 and have 2 extra power points and IDE >connections.......so I am assuming that I can run 3 HDs and one CDrom. If >there may be something I am doing wrong.....could someone go over what I am >supposed to do......or what I may have not done?!?! Thanks guys. Oh yeah, >I posted this here, cuz I am only on a couple NGs and most here seem very >voiced in PC......that and not knowing what other NG to look for to ask >advice. > > TIA Verne

It certainly does if you use it to make multiple partitions. 1 Physical HD does not necessarily equal 1 partition! So creating multiple partitions can create lots of drive letters. <spamtrap@localhost> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > FDISK has nothing to do with drive letters. > -- > Andrew. To email unscramble [email hidden] & remove spamtrap. > Help make Usenet a better place: > Check groups.google.com before asking a question. > Don't top post. Trim your messages to include only relevent text.

On Thu, 4 Sep 2003 14:37:07 -0300, "Newshound" <[email hidden]> wrote: >It certainly does if you use it to make multiple partitions. >1 Physical HD does not necessarily equal 1 partition! >So creating multiple partitions can create lots of drive letters. >But FDISK does not control what drive letters those partitions will equate to. -- Andrew. To email unscramble [email hidden] & remove spamtrap. Help make Usenet a better place: Check groups.google.com before asking a question. Don't top post. Trim your messages to include only relevent text.

In article <3f571820$[email hidden]>, Ed Solheim <[email hidden]> writes >Be sure you've set the jumper-pins *on* the HDD correctly. > >- Your *primary* harddisk should be set as MASTER (Do *not* use cable >select) and it should be connected to the IDE-0 "channel" Why not use cable select? Is this to just be on the safe side? If not, then I see no reason for it. I have 2 drives using cable select just fine. -- Peter Ives - (AKA Ivington) Remove ALL_STRESS before replying No person's opinions can be said to be more correct than another's, because each is the sole judge of his or her own experience.

True, but that's not what you said. You used the word "nothing", it does have something to do with it. PS - as per your sig. Google isn't the be all do all (if it was they'd be another M$). Sorry about the top post, that's my preference from time to time! ;-) Triming <1K of text isn't worth the bother. <spamtrap@localhost> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Thu, 4 Sep 2003 14:37:07 -0300, "Newshound" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >It certainly does if you use it to make multiple partitions. > >1 Physical HD does not necessarily equal 1 partition! > >So creating multiple partitions can create lots of drive letters. > > > But FDISK does not control what drive letters those partitions will > equate to. > -- > Andrew. To email unscramble [email hidden] & remove spamtrap. > Help make Usenet a better place: > Check groups.google.com before asking a question. > Don't top post. Trim your messages to include only relevent text.

On Thu, 4 Sep 2003 15:28:09 -0300, "Newshound" <[email hidden]> wrote: >True, but that's not what you said. You used the word "nothing", it does >have something to do with it. >It creates partitions, the mobo and OS control the drive letter. >PS - as per your sig. >Google isn't the be all do all (if it was they'd be another M$). I don't like Google much myself, but what other Usenet archives are there? -- Andrew. To email unscramble [email hidden] & remove spamtrap. Help make Usenet a better place: Check groups.google.com before asking a question. Don't top post. Trim your messages to include only relevent text.

Yes, but without a partition, they can't create the drive letter. So it does have something to do with it right? <spamtrap@localhost> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Thu, 4 Sep 2003 15:28:09 -0300, "Newshound" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >True, but that's not what you said. You used the word "nothing", it does > >have something to do with it. > > > It creates partitions, the mobo and OS control the drive letter. > > >PS - as per your sig. > >Google isn't the be all do all (if it was they'd be another M$). > > I don't like Google much myself, but what other Usenet archives are > there? > -- > Andrew. To email unscramble [email hidden] & remove spamtrap. > Help make Usenet a better place: > Check groups.google.com before asking a question. > Don't top post. Trim your messages to include only relevent text.

Okay......I tried setting them up as suggested.a dn one it seems may be FUBAR........but the other just doesn NOT want to be rad. I threw my old 1.8g in that was being removed in favour of these 2....it gets read just fine shows in windows. Both contrtollers are showing enabled and working fine, but the HD does not show up in my explorer....the CRrom does still. I can feel the drive spinning.....so it is working at least. I can't fdisk it as I have no drive letter to use........DAMN !!! Maybe free stuff costs more than money, aggravation and TIME, the ultimate price !!!! Ah well....I'll keep plugging with the ideas.....thanks guys. Verne

Okay......I tried setting them up as suggested.a dn one it seems may be FUBAR........but the other just doesn NOT want to be rad. I threw my old 1.8g in that was being removed in favour of these 2....it gets read just fine shows in windows. Both contrtollers are showing enabled and working fine, but the HD does not show up in my explorer....the CRrom does still. I can feel the drive spinning.....so it is working at least. I can't fdisk it as I have no drive letter to use........DAMN !!! Maybe free stuff costs more than money, aggravation and TIME, the ultimate price !!!! Ah well....I'll keep plugging with the ideas.....thanks guys. Verne

"Verne "fnugen" Harris" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:JIz5b.11062$[email hidden]... > Okay.............my brother in law's employer was giving away old 4.3g HDs > because they upgraded theirs. He grabbed me 2. I figured I'd done itbefore, > I'd do it again, installing a 2nd HD. First attempt at a 3rd HD. > Well..............no go. I tried what I think is everything and they justdo > NOT show up in my windows explorer. I can get the CMOS to recognize them > under auto detect........it also recognizes them if I manually do it. Upon > boot up it shows my master HD, then it shows the new HDs as both 2ndmaster > and primary slave........then my CDrom as 2nd slave. My primary HD runsoff > the board as does my CDrom......it was set up this way for me.....it just > seems that playing with the jumpers yeilded no drives appearing inwindows. > I am running Win98 and have 2 extra power points and IDE > connections.......so I am assuming that I can run 3 HDs and one CDrom. If > there may be something I am doing wrong.....could someone go over what Iam > supposed to do......or what I may have not done?!?! Thanks guys. Ohyeah, > I posted this here, cuz I am only on a couple NGs and most here seem very > voiced in PC......that and not knowing what other NG to look for to ask > advice. > > TIA Verne > I assume you have swapped the various 'new' drives around and made sure that if it could be made to show up in Windows, that it was working fine. Otherwise, I'd run scandisk or Norton Disk Doctor or some sort of surface test to make sure it is working ok. A bad disk will show up in CMOS even if it is damaged enough not to function properly within Windoze. Other than that, the other advice has been good here: Make sure IDE 1 (secondary IDE, primary IDE should be labeled as 0) is activated. Make sure that a HD is the Master on each channel, and any CDROMs or CDRWs are Slaves to any HD's on their channel. Make sure the Master devices are jumpered as Masters and the Slaves are jumpered as Slaves. I know someone said they had CS mode working, but I've been tinkering with and building computers since the 80s (can you say Heath kit? or TRS-80 or TI-99?) and CS has NEVER worked properly for me in a PC. And also certainly, you'll need to do a reformat if you are using NTFS formatted drives in anything less than an NT system. NT, don't forget, encompasses everything from before NT-WS4.0 to the current XP(NT5.1). There may also be an issue with these drives being FAT16 (since 4.3g HDs are years OLD by their very nature) and your system possibly being FAT32. When Windoze95 died and Windoze98 appeared, so did FAT32. If these drives were FAT16, they should still show up and work, but I wouldn't mix and match FAT16 and FAT32 drives within the same system. You're asking for trouble if you do IMHO (filenames longer than 8.3 can then become an issue). What FAT type does FDISK show when you run it on the new drives? AND, as an aside, I don't recall you ever mentioning the OS of the systems these came out of. It is possible that they aren't even in any SORT of MS format. 4.3g drives were around when the likes of O/S2 and NeXT OS's were still around...and let us not forget that Linux runs on PC's too. A low level format followed by an OS native fdisk may be the only way to go. AND, it may be (since you said they were WD drives) that the systems they came out of were so old that they didn't support 1g + HD's without a WD driver. I had to use one of those on an old DOS 6.22 box once, I think they called it Drive Rocket or similar? The old DOS didn't support 'large' HD's and this overlay driver had to be installed to get them to format past 1 GB. Actually I think it was past 540 MB, can't remember. Either way, this is buried in the boot sector and needs a reformat to get rid of it for use in a more current system.

I resorted to sending an email to Western Digital to ask their ideas. The drives I am trying to use are WD Caviar 14300 (AKA AC14300) if that makes any difference to anybody.......or anything. Awaiting their response now. I do have a Seagate 1.8g HD that I can install with no problems whatsoever. Odd to me that BOTH these drives would refuse to install properly. They both spin and sound like they are operating normally , well, one kinda clunks a little......I have tried everyione's ideas and none seem to work....DAMN !!! ah well.......thanks to all who have tried to help. Verne

I resorted to sending an email to Western Digital to ask their ideas. The drives I am trying to use are WD Caviar 14300 (AKA AC14300) if that makes any difference to anybody.......or anything. Awaiting their response now. I do have a Seagate 1.8g HD that I can install with no problems whatsoever. Odd to me that BOTH these drives would refuse to install properly. They both spin and sound like they are operating normally , well, one kinda clunks a little......I have tried everyione's ideas and none seem to work....DAMN !!! ah well.......thanks to all who have tried to help. Verne

Peter Ives wrote:

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> > In article <3f571820$[email hidden]>, Ed Solheim > <[email hidden]> writes > >Be sure you've set the jumper-pins *on* the HDD correctly. > > > >- Your *primary* harddisk should be set as MASTER (Do *not* use cable > >select) and it should be connected to the IDE-0 "channel" > > Why not use cable select? Is this to just be on the safe side? If not, > then I see no reason for it. I have 2 drives using cable select just > fine.

*Some* drives, particularly older ones, won't operate properly in CS mode, and you also need 80 pin HD cables, something that is lost on some people actually :-) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

Verne \"fnugen\" Harris wrote:

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> > Okay......I tried setting them up as suggested.a dn one it seems may be > FUBAR........but the other just doesn NOT want to be rad. I threw my old > 1.8g in that was being removed in favour of these 2....it gets read just > fine shows in windows. Both contrtollers are showing enabled and working > fine, but the HD does not show up in my explorer....the CRrom does still. I > can feel the drive spinning.....so it is working at least. I can't fdisk it > as I have no drive letter to use........DAMN !!! Maybe free stuff costs > more than money, aggravation and TIME, the ultimate price !!!! Ah > well....I'll keep plugging with the ideas.....thanks guys.

You don't need drive letters to run fdisk, just run fdisk and see if they show up under the number 5 option If they were created and formatted in NTFS, which is quite common at a work place as they often use Windows NT based OS's, it won't show up in Win9x unless you install the NTFS support for Win9x, available from such places as www.sysinternals.com For WD drives yu can also DL the Diagnostics tool from here http://support.wdc.com/download/index.asp Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

Is your CD assigned as drive E: or the next letter after the second HD letter? Try assigning the CD a higher letter. Maybe the HD refused to take any letters higher than the CD drive. Of course if you change the CD drive letter this will screw up some programs which look at the CD drive, for example Nascar2003. ;-) "Verne "fnugen" Harris" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:7DJ5b.10816$[email hidden]... > Okay......I tried setting them up as suggested.a dn one it seems maybe > FUBAR........but the other just doesn NOT want to be rad. I threw myold > 1.8g in that was being removed in favour of these 2....it gets readjust > fine shows in windows. Both contrtollers are showing enabled andworking > fine, but the HD does not show up in my explorer....the CRrom doesstill. I > can feel the drive spinning.....so it is working at least. I can'tfdisk it > as I have no drive letter to use........DAMN !!! Maybe free stuffcosts > more than money, aggravation and TIME, the ultimate price !!!! Ah > well....I'll keep plugging with the ideas.....thanks guys. > > Verne > >

"Verne "fnugen" Harris" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:7DJ5b.10816$[email hidden]... > Okay......I tried setting them up as suggested.a dn one it seems maybe > FUBAR........but the other just doesn NOT want to be rad. I threw myold > 1.8g in that was being removed in favour of these 2....it gets readjust > fine shows in windows. Both contrtollers are showing enabled andworking > fine, but the HD does not show up in my explorer....the CRrom doesstill. I > can feel the drive spinning.....so it is working at least. I can'tfdisk it > as I have no drive letter to use........DAMN !!! Boot your computer into DOS with your Windows emergency boot disk. The fdisk utility is included in the floppy disk.

good to hear you got it working. Theres nothing like a puter or hardware to stuff up to teach you a little bit more about them. Thats what I like about this ng, got a problem, someone here will be able to help. Steve "Verne "fnugen" Harris" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:JCS5b.11224$[email hidden]... > YEA !!!!!!! Got one working. After a couple more hours of waiting. I got > hold of a diag disk from my step father and did a reformat. Turns out itWAS > NT format. Well.......after the format, still did not show up in > windows.........so I went to fdisk and did the dos partition thing andVOILA > !!!!!! there it was............but when I tried to open it........error > message........right click, format in windows..........ALL BETTER !!!!!So

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> thank you all very much for the help.........maybe next time I do > this......I'll be a bit more wise about what can go wrong.....or at elast, > help someone else..........thanks again and good racing to all. > > Verne > > p.s. The other drive makes some electronic sounding clicking and clunking > while spinning..........it stopped being detected entirely in CMOS. Sound > fubar ?? Or can these things actually be repairs cheaply ?? > >

YEA !!!!!!! Got one working. After a couple more hours of waiting. I got hold of a diag disk from my step father and did a reformat. Turns out it WAS NT format. Well.......after the format, still did not show up in windows.........so I went to fdisk and did the dos partition thing and VOILA !!!!!! there it was............but when I tried to open it........error message........right click, format in windows..........ALL BETTER !!!!! So thank you all very much for the help.........maybe next time I do this......I'll be a bit more wise about what can go wrong.....or at elast, help someone else..........thanks again and good racing to all. Verne p.s. The other drive makes some electronic sounding clicking and clunking while spinning..........it stopped being detected entirely in CMOS. Sound fubar ?? Or can these things actually be repairs cheaply ??

YEA !!!!!!! Got one working. After a couple more hours of waiting. I got hold of a diag disk from my step father and did a reformat. Turns out it WAS NT format. Well.......after the format, still did not show up in windows.........so I went to fdisk and did the dos partition thing and VOILA !!!!!! there it was............but when I tried to open it........error message........right click, format in windows..........ALL BETTER !!!!! So thank you all very much for the help.........maybe next time I do this......I'll be a bit more wise about what can go wrong.....or at elast, help someone else..........thanks again and good racing to all. Verne p.s. The other drive makes some electronic sounding clicking and clunking while spinning..........it stopped being detected entirely in CMOS. Sound fubar ?? Or can these things actually be repairs cheaply ??

Verne \"fnugen\" Harris wrote: > > p.s. The other drive makes some electronic sounding clicking and clunking > while spinning..........it stopped being detected entirely in CMOS. Sound > fubar ?? Or can these things actually be repairs cheaply ?? FUBAR, it can be repaired at 3 times the cost of a new one Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

On Thu, 4 Sep 2003 18:44:21 +0100, Peter Ives <[email hidden]> wrote: >Why not use cable select? Is this to just be on the safe side? If not, >then I see no reason for it. I have 2 drives using cable select just >fine. I bought a new 80gig HD last week, my pc wouldn't reckognize it when I set it to master, then I tried CS and it worked ok :-/ Andre

I'd say it has written its last byte of data. You now have a novel paperweight. On Thu, 4 Sep 2003 22:31:43 -0700, "Verne \"fnugen\" Harris" <[email hidden]> wrote: >p.s. The other drive makes some electronic sounding clicking and clunking >while spinning..........it stopped being detected entirely in CMOS. Sound >fubar ?? Or can these things actually be repairs cheaply ??

Andre Warringa wrote:

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> > On Thu, 4 Sep 2003 18:44:21 +0100, Peter Ives > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Why not use cable select? Is this to just be on the safe side? If not, > >then I see no reason for it. I have 2 drives using cable select just > >fine. > > I bought a new 80gig HD last week, my pc wouldn't reckognize it when I > set it to master, then I tried CS and it worked ok :-/

That happens every now and then too, you can imagine how much I enjoy trouble shooting computers...:-) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

another option would be to download toms rescue boot disk, put it onto a floppy, but the minilinux that is on there and use the Linux fdisk which is far superior to the dos version. It will allow you to completely wipe the drive and partitions on it and re-create a brand new shiny FAT32 partition that you can format under windows. Feel free to mail me if you need further details. Cheers, uwe -- mail replies to Uwe at schuerkamp dot de ( yahoo address is spambox) Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

On Thu, 4 Sep 2003 01:02:04 -0700, "Verne \"fnugen\" Harris" <[email hidden]> wrote/replied to:

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>Okay.............my brother in law's employer was giving away old 4.3g HDs >because they upgraded theirs. He grabbed me 2. I figured I'd done it before, >I'd do it again, installing a 2nd HD. First attempt at a 3rd HD. >Well..............no go. I tried what I think is everything and they just do >NOT show up in my windows explorer. I can get the CMOS to recognize them >under auto detect........it also recognizes them if I manually do it. Upon >boot up it shows my master HD, then it shows the new HDs as both 2nd master >and primary slave........then my CDrom as 2nd slave. My primary HD runs off >the board as does my CDrom......it was set up this way for me.....it just >seems that playing with the jumpers yeilded no drives appearing in windows. >I am running Win98 and have 2 extra power points and IDE >connections.......so I am assuming that I can run 3 HDs and one CDrom. If >there may be something I am doing wrong.....could someone go over what I am >supposed to do......or what I may have not done?!?! Thanks guys. Oh yeah, >I posted this here, cuz I am only on a couple NGs and most here seem very >voiced in PC......that and not knowing what other NG to look for to ask >advice. > > TIA Verne >

Run Fdisk and wipe them out, then format them. They might be formatted to another OS> Jim Davis Nature Photography http://www.kjsl.com/~jbdavis/