RASF1 Schedule

I would like to propose a schedule for the remaining RASF1 races, since many of us like to plan our weekends well in advance. There are only three races remaining in the 2003 season, but we have talked about running the races from earlier in the season on off weekends, plus I'm sure most of you feel as I do that we should throw Spa in there somewhere also. Can't remember which one you guys started on, so I ran the schedule out to include the British GP just in case. Here it is: RASF1 Proposed Schedule ===================== 9/14/03 Monza 9/21/03 Malaysia 9/28/03 US 10/05/03 Brazil 10/12/03 Japan 10/19/03 San Marino 10/26/03 Spain 11/02/03 Austria 11/09/03 Monaco 11/16/03 Canada 11/23/03 Europe 11/30/03 France 12/07/03 Britain 12/14/03 Belgium ===================== Comments anyone? If we can agree on the schedule we should get it posted on the web site. Let me know what you think.

"Haqsau" < > > Comments anyone? If we can agree on the schedule we should get it > posted on the web site. Let me know what you think. > > Do you dare risk using the updated 2003 track versions by Tantra?? dave henrie

"Haqsau" < Do you dare risk using the updated 2003 track versions by Tantra?? dave henrie

Tried to post this earlier but it doesn't appear to have gone through. Sorry if it's a repost: I would like to propose a schedule for the remaining RASF1 races, since many of us like to plan our weekends well in advance. There are only three races remaining in the 2003 season, but we have talked about running the races from earlier in the season on off weekends, plus I'm sure most of you feel as I do that we should throw Spa in there somewhere also. Can't remember which one you guys started on, so I ran the schedule out to include the British GP just in case. Here it is: RASF1 Proposed Schedule ===================== 9/14/03 Monza 9/21/03 Malaysia 9/28/03 US 10/05/03 Brazil 10/12/03 Japan 10/19/03 San Marino 10/26/03 Spain 11/02/03 Austria 11/09/03 Monaco 11/16/03 Canada 11/23/03 Europe 11/30/03 France 12/07/03 Britain 12/14/03 Belgium ===================== Comments anyone? If we can agree on the schedule we should get it posted on the web site. Let me know what you think.

Bah! My stupid newsreader is attaching this to a previous thread with the same name. Stupid OE. No wonder I didn't see it before. "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Tried to post this earlier but it doesn't appear to have gone through. > Sorry if it's a repost: > > I would like to propose a schedule for the remaining RASF1 races, sincemany > of us like to plan our weekends well in advance. There are only threeraces

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> remaining in the 2003 season, but we have talked about running the races > from earlier in the season on off weekends, plus I'm sure most of you feel > as I do that we should throw Spa in there somewhere also. Can't remember > which one you guys started on, so I ran the schedule out to include the > British GP just in case. Here it is: > > RASF1 Proposed Schedule > ===================== > 9/14/03 Monza > 9/21/03 Malaysia > 9/28/03 US > 10/05/03 Brazil > 10/12/03 Japan > 10/19/03 San Marino > 10/26/03 Spain > 11/02/03 Austria > 11/09/03 Monaco > 11/16/03 Canada > 11/23/03 Europe > 11/30/03 France > 12/07/03 Britain > 12/14/03 Belgium > ===================== > > Comments anyone? If we can agree on the schedule we should get it posted

on > the web site. Let me know what you think. > > >

I would prefer not to. I tried a few and didn't really care for them that much. Plus then we would have to get into a discussion about which carset to use and which 2003 physics patch to use. Next thing you know we will be making rules and banning people and we will all have to paint our own cars. (Okay cheap shot but I happen to think you-know-who has a sense of humor.) I really don't want to deal with all of that stuff, I just want to race. :o) "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > Do you dare risk using the updated 2003 track versions by Tantra?? > > dave henrie

In article <[email hidden]>, "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> writes: >Comments anyone? If we can agree on the schedule we should get it posted on >the web site. Let me know what you think. Sure, why not? -- "A voice from the crowd: Right, everyone out of my garden. I've had enough of this!" Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank -2.4 N2k3 rank ? Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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> I would like to propose a schedule for the remaining RASF1 races, > since many of us like to plan our weekends well in advance. There are > only three races remaining in the 2003 season, but we have talked > about running the races from earlier in the season on off weekends, > plus I'm sure most of you feel as I do that we should throw Spa in > there somewhere also. Can't remember which one you guys started on, > so I ran the schedule out to include the British GP just in case. > Here it is: > > RASF1 Proposed Schedule > > ===================== > > 9/14/03 Monza > > 9/21/03 Malaysia > > 9/28/03 US > > 10/05/03 Brazil > > 10/12/03 Japan > > 10/19/03 San Marino > > 10/26/03 Spain > > 11/02/03 Austria > > 11/09/03 Monaco > > 11/16/03 Canada > > 11/23/03 Europe > > 11/30/03 France > > 12/07/03 Britain > > 12/14/03 Belgium > > ===================== > > Comments anyone? If we can agree on the schedule we should get it > posted on the web site. Let me know what you think. > > >

Yes yes yes yes.... I can join the next one as I'm not away so count me in...

Sounds fine to me. Decided to give Monza a go last night, and I have a setup that enabled 1:25's with a few 1:24's. The problem is the damn rear end wants to come around under braking, especially at the second chicane. The sensitive braking touch required to prevent it just doesn't seem realistic at all. Anyone have any clever ideas how to help get rid of that? David G Fisher "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I would like to propose a schedule for the remaining RASF1 races, sincemany > of us like to plan our weekends well in advance. There are only threeraces

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> remaining in the 2003 season, but we have talked about running the races > from earlier in the season on off weekends, plus I'm sure most of you feel > as I do that we should throw Spa in there somewhere also. Can't remember > which one you guys started on, so I ran the schedule out to include the > British GP just in case. Here it is: > > RASF1 Proposed Schedule > > ===================== > > 9/14/03 Monza > > 9/21/03 Malaysia > > 9/28/03 US > > 10/05/03 Brazil > > 10/12/03 Japan > > 10/19/03 San Marino > > 10/26/03 Spain > > 11/02/03 Austria > > 11/09/03 Monaco > > 11/16/03 Canada > > 11/23/03 Europe > > 11/30/03 France > > 12/07/03 Britain > > 12/14/03 Belgium > > ===================== > > Comments anyone? If we can agree on the schedule we should get it posted

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> the web site. Let me know what you think. > > > > > > > > > >

Is it possible your gear ratio is throwing you off? Try changing down to 3 instead of 2, or try decreasing your 2nd gear ratio. Does it come around while you are braking or when you come off the brakes? If the latter, you might want to decrease the rear slow bump damping a tad. If you are using soft rear springs the rear end moves a lot under braking and brake release, so the rear damping becomes very touchy. In fact, while this seems counter-intuitive, you might actually find a slightly stiffer rear spring to help in this case, by allowing you to keep the rear end a little lower. "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > Decided to give Monza a go last night, and I have a setup that enabled > 1:25's with a few 1:24's. The problem is the damn rear end wants to come > around under braking, especially at the second chicane. The sensitive > braking touch required to prevent it just doesn't seem realistic at all. > Anyone have any clever ideas how to help get rid of that? > > David G Fisher

Just ran Monza again out of curiosity. Are you breaking loose right before turning in to the first part of the second chicane? I think there is a surface discontinuity there that is just plain going to ruin your day if you turn in on top of it (there's a whole lot of surface discontinuities at this track). Every time I tried to turn in at what appeared to be the logical point I spun. Braking and turning in a bit earlier seemed to fix the problem. Unfortunately I am a couple seconds shy of your lap times so I don't know if you can do this and still get a decent time. If that doesn't work try moving the brake bias forward some more. I ended up a couple points higher here than I do at other tracks. "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Sounds fine to me. > > Decided to give Monza a go last night, and I have a setup that enabled > 1:25's with a few 1:24's. The problem is the damn rear end wants to come > around under braking, especially at the second chicane. The sensitive > braking touch required to prevent it just doesn't seem realistic at all. > Anyone have any clever ideas how to help get rid of that? > > David G Fisher >

"Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:[email hidden]: > Just ran Monza again out of curiosity. That second chicane is a bugger. I took a setup from another user and couldn't get anywhere. I added a-bit of rear wing to help me get thru. Also there is a setting that has been mentioned here about the plr file that increases the tire sampling. That made a difference for me when driving over that 2nd chicane on the left side curbing. in the [Driving aids] section look for this line: Tire Sampling="1" // 0 = normal, 1 = extra HAT samples (*slightly* more accurate over sharp curbs, otherwise a waste of CPU) thanks to DGF and others who pointed these changes out to us.

"Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:[email hidden]: > Comments anyone? If we can agree on the schedule we should get it > posted on the web site. Let me know what you think. > > Since I've been out of touch, is there a website for RasF1? Which cars are available? dh

Here you go: http://members.tripod.com/pedx1ng/rasf1/index.html I'm not sure how many are showing up, but some of the cars have two drivers. I haven't made any races yet, maybe tomorrow if I get time. "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in > news:[email hidden]: > > > > Comments anyone? If we can agree on the schedule we should get it > > posted on the web site. Let me know what you think. > > > > > Since I've been out of touch, is there a website for RasF1? Which cars > are available? > dh

Not sure how important the car thing is anyway. Spudster and I both drive the same car and when we raced at Australia last week we simply agreed on a different pit strategy in chat before the race. Unfortunately Spudster didn't survive long enough to pit and my <cough> strategy got interrupted by some repairs, but I don't think there would have been any problem. It's good that everybody picked different cars initially so that we have some variety, but I don't think it's a problem - if you didn't get on the roster, just pick a car and show up anyway. For the last two races we have only had 6 entrants, it's not like we don't have enough room. "Bill Worrel" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Here you go: > > http://members.tripod.com/pedx1ng/rasf1/index.html > > I'm not sure how many are showing up, but some of the cars have twodrivers. > > I haven't made any races yet, maybe tomorrow if I get time. >

Thanks for the help. I honestly don't know what the h*ll is going on with this track/setup. Yes, the main section of the track where the rear comes around is under braking right before turning into the second chicane. I apparently have lost the setup that enabled me to do the occasional 1:24, and regular 1:25's. Too much late night tweaking. I must of switched something and didn't save the setup properly. I'm off the pace now, and the thing that baffles me is I was actually running 1:25's with little practice with that mystery setup. It's ALL in the setup with this track apparently. Even when it felt good though, and I was doing those times, it still seemed ridiculously easy to lose the rear end. Did even one driver loop it in the real Monza race today at any of the chicanes? One thing I've always disliked about sims is the way you have to drive the cars as if the are made of balsa wood. Nothing realistic about that. David G Fisher "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Just ran Monza again out of curiosity. Are you breaking loose rightbefore > turning in to the first part of the second chicane? I think there is a > surface discontinuity there that is just plain going to ruin your day ifyou > turn in on top of it (there's a whole lot of surface discontinuities atthis

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> track). Every time I tried to turn in at what appeared to be the logical > point I spun. Braking and turning in a bit earlier seemed to fix the > problem. Unfortunately I am a couple seconds shy of your lap times so I > don't know if you can do this and still get a decent time. > > If that doesn't work try moving the brake bias forward some more. I ended > up a couple points higher here than I do at other tracks. > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Sounds fine to me. > > > > Decided to give Monza a go last night, and I have a setup that enabled > > 1:25's with a few 1:24's. The problem is the damn rear end wants to come > > around under braking, especially at the second chicane. The sensitive > > braking touch required to prevent it just doesn't seem realistic at all. > > Anyone have any clever ideas how to help get rid of that? > > > > David G Fisher > > > >

I'm almost positive it's not tanything to do with the gearing, but I'll try the suspension adjustments. David G Fisher "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Is it possible your gear ratio is throwing you off? Try changing down to3 > instead of 2, or try decreasing your 2nd gear ratio. Does it come around > while you are braking or when you come off the brakes? If the latter, you > might want to decrease the rear slow bump damping a tad. If you are using > soft rear springs the rear end moves a lot under braking and brakerelease, > so the rear damping becomes very touchy. In fact, while this seems > counter-intuitive, you might actually find a slightly stiffer rear springto

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> help in this case, by allowing you to keep the rear end a little lower. > > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > > Decided to give Monza a go last night, and I have a setup that enabled > > 1:25's with a few 1:24's. The problem is the damn rear end wants to come > > around under braking, especially at the second chicane. The sensitive > > braking touch required to prevent it just doesn't seem realistic at all. > > Anyone have any clever ideas how to help get rid of that? > > > > David G Fisher > >