The "new" ECCI wheel & Pedals

Has anyone tried these and reviewed them yet?

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > Has anyone tried these and reviewed them yet? > No, but I hear they come with a completely new ground wire concept, direct from Wilshe Labs.

I'm sure Don will be asking for "unbiased positive reviews" soon, much like he did for the Ratbag sims. "Bruce Millar" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Has anyone tried these and reviewed them yet?

Let me give the credit on the ground wire to its inventor. Ric Seylor. He found the problem and the solution. DW "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> In article <[email hidden]>, > [email hidden] says... > > Has anyone tried these and reviewed them yet? > > > > No, but I hear they come with a completely new ground wire concept, > direct from Wilshe Labs. >

What exactly is this Ground Wire concept?? Mike http://mikebeauchamp.com "Don Wilshe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:FkP7b.39436$[email hidden]... > Let me give the credit on the ground wire to its inventor. Ric Seylor.He

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> found the > problem and the solution. DW > > > "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > In article <[email hidden]>, > > [email hidden] says... > > > Has anyone tried these and reviewed them yet? > > > > > > > No, but I hear they come with a completely new ground wire concept, > > direct from Wilshe Labs. > > > >

I think that is spelled Ric Seyler "Don Wilshe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:FkP7b.39436$[email hidden]... > Let me give the credit on the ground wire to its inventor. Ric Seylor.He

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> found the > problem and the solution. DW > > > "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > In article <[email hidden]>, > > [email hidden] says... > > > Has anyone tried these and reviewed them yet? > > > > > > > No, but I hear they come with a completely new ground wire concept, > > direct from Wilshe Labs. > > > >

Ric Seylor had discovered because his medal pedals were on rugs that created lots of static electricity that when he went across his room that his body would have a large amount of static electicity. So when he put his feet on his metal pedals the static would be transfered into his pedals. Therefore the pots in the pedals wont work properly. After months of testing and he was able to use a ground wire to bleed off the static and return normal use to his wheel system. ECCI therefore retro fitted the wheels they made with a ground wire to solve this problem for any of its customers. this is explained on there website. www.ecci.net Now Ric if I dont have this right as i got it 3rd hand please correct the story. Don "Mike Beauchamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > What exactly is this Ground Wire concept?? > > Mike > > http://mikebeauchamp.com

"Don Wilshe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:6z_7b.33719$[email hidden]... > Ric Seylor had discovered because his medal pedals were on rugs thatcreated > lots of > static electricity that when he went across his room that his bodywould > have a large amount of > static electicity. So when he put his feet on his metal pedals thestatic > would be transfered into > his pedals. Therefore the pots in the pedals wont work properly.After > months of testing > and he was able to use a ground wire to bleed off the static andreturn > normal use to his > wheel system. ECCI therefore retro fitted the wheels they made witha > ground wire to > solve this problem for any of its customers. this is explained onthere > website. > www.ecci.net Now Ric if I dont have this right as i got it 3rdhand please > correct > the story. > > Don > >That's fine for ECCI products, but you were telling everyone here that this would fix problems with all brands of controllers. It didn't fix a thing on my problematic TSW. (I fell for the bait) :-(

Interesting as many others with other wheels said it helped them.. DW

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> > > That's fine for ECCI products, but you were telling everyone here that > this would fix problems with all brands of controllers. > It didn't fix a thing on my problematic TSW. (I fell for the bait) :-( > > >

Seyler for the 2nd time "Don Wilshe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:6z_7b.33719$[email hidden]... > Ric Seylor had discovered because his medal pedals were on rugs thatcreated

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> lots of > static electricity that when he went across his room that his body would > have a large amount of > static electicity. So when he put his feet on his metal pedals the static > would be transfered into > his pedals. Therefore the pots in the pedals wont work properly. After > months of testing > and he was able to use a ground wire to bleed off the static and return > normal use to his > wheel system. ECCI therefore retro fitted the wheels they made with a > ground wire to > solve this problem for any of its customers. this is explained on there > website. > www.ecci.net Now Ric if I dont have this right as i got it 3rd hand

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> correct > the story. > > Don > > > > > "Mike Beauchamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > What exactly is this Ground Wire concept?? > > > > Mike > > > > http://mikebeauchamp.com > > >

How is the wood and rubber on my TSW pedals going to conduct ESD? "Don Wilshe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Tu78b.35424$[email hidden]...

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> > Interesting as many others with other wheels said it helped them.. > > DW > > > > > > > That's fine for ECCI products, but you were telling everyone here

that > > this would fix problems with all brands of controllers. > > It didn't fix a thing on my problematic TSW. (I fell for the bait):-( > > > > > > > >

How is the wood and *** on my TSW pedals going to conduct ESD?

In article <OLM7b.68920$[email hidden]>, "Schooner" <[email hidden]> writes: >I'm sure Don will be asking for "unbiased positive reviews" soon, much like >he did for the Ratbag sims. I actually thought the Ragbag sims were pretty good... "unbiased positive reviews", huh? I must have missed those messages.<g> Eldred -- "A voice from the crowd: Right, everyone out of my garden. I've had enough of this!" Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank -2.4 N2k3 rank ? Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

"gordo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Xja8b.1230$%[email hidden]... > How is the wood and rubber on my TSW pedals going to conduct ESD? Let me ask this. How is wood and rubber going to relieve static electcity.. Don

Let me ask this. How is wood and *** going to relieve static electcity.. Don

You did. "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > "unbiased positive reviews", huh? I must have missed those messages.<g> > > Eldred

I never wrote a review or asked for a review on any ratbag products. Nascar series has always been #1, but the ratbag games, demos free at www.ivga.com have always been the #2 seller of racing games at well over 1,000,000 units. You can go to www.ivga.com and get the 5 or 6 demos from Ratbags. At just $19.95 who cant use one of them for a stocking stuffer. Me Write.. he he... Now thats a joke. Don Wilshe "TDRacin�" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:U2f8b.425$[email hidden]...

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> You did. > > > "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > "unbiased positive reviews", huh? I must have missed those messages.<g> > > > > Eldred > > >

Oh I agree the Ratbag sims are good, it was Don asking people to do unbiased reviews that had to be positive that the issue is. "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <OLM7b.68920$[email hidden]>, "Schooner" > <[email hidden]> writes: > > >I'm sure Don will be asking for "unbiased positive reviews" soon, muchlike

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> >he did for the Ratbag sims. > > I actually thought the Ragbag sims were pretty good... > "unbiased positive reviews", huh? I must have missed those messages.<g> > > Eldred > -- > "A voice from the crowd: Right, everyone out of my garden. I've had > enough of this!" > > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPLRank -2.4 > N2k3 rank ? > > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

No but you wanted sim related sites to write positive review for you. "Don Wilshe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8Dj8b.40551$[email hidden]... > I never wrote a review or asked for a review on any ratbag products. > Nascar series has always > been #1, but the ratbag games, demos free at www.ivga.com have always been > the #2 seller of > racing games at well over 1,000,000 units. You can go to www.ivga.comand

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> get the > 5 or 6 demos from Ratbags. At just $19.95 who cant use one of them for a > stocking stuffer. Me Write.. he he... Now thats a joke. > > Don Wilshe > > > "TDRacin�" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:U2f8b.425$[email hidden]... > > You did. > > > > > > "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > "unbiased positive reviews", huh? I must have missed those

messages.<g>

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"Don Wilshe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:B6b8b.39150$[email hidden]...

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> > "gordo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Xja8b.1230$%[email hidden]... > > How is the wood and rubber on my TSW pedals going to conduct ESD? > > > Let me ask this. How is wood and rubber going to relieve static

electcity.. > > Don > >They never absorb ESD in the first place. They're insulators.

> > How is the wood and *** on my TSW pedals going to conduct ESD? > Let me ask this. How is wood and *** going to relieve static electcity.. > Don They never absorb ESD in the first place. They're insulators.

"Schooner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Ndq8b.69717$[email hidden]... > Oh I agree the Ratbag sims are good, it was Don asking people to dounbiased > reviews that had to be positive that the issue is. Just give me a name of any person that i asked to write a baised review. Cant Bottom line is RATBAG games even though they lack in MP. they are the best driving games in the world. Tell me that driving on dirt doesnt kick butt... Don

I am still waiting for that dirt racing series or whatever it was that you were supposed to have go all over the country. What exactly was that? It was so big that I can not even remember "Don Wilshe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:rxr8b.52764$[email hidden]...

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> > "Schooner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Ndq8b.69717$[email hidden]... > > Oh I agree the Ratbag sims are good, it was Don asking people to do > unbiased > > reviews that had to be positive that the issue is. > > Just give me a name of any person that i asked to write a baised review. > Cant > > > Bottom line is RATBAG games even though they lack in MP. they are the

best

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> driving games in the world. Tell me that driving on dirt doesnt kick > butt... > > Don > > >

And wasn't he involved in the new reality TV show for rally racers or something as well? "Cliff Roman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:pov8b.428015$o%2.194707@sccrnsc02...

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> I am still waiting for that dirt racing series or whatever it was that you > were supposed to have go all over the country. > > What exactly was that? It was so big that I can not even remember > > > "Don Wilshe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:rxr8b.52764$[email hidden]... > > > > "Schooner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:Ndq8b.69717$[email hidden]... > > > Oh I agree the Ratbag sims are good, it was Don asking people to do > > unbiased > > > reviews that had to be positive that the issue is. > > > > Just give me a name of any person that i asked to write a baised review. > > Cant > > > > > > Bottom line is RATBAG games even though they lack in MP. they are the > best > > driving games in the world. Tell me that driving on dirt doesnt kick > > butt... > > > > Don > > > > > > > >

"Don Wilshe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message : Here is a little update on the resources we have for reviewers. Again looking for websites that review games and are interested in RATBAG latest products about to be released. These are for PC Games and we try and support RATBAGs as they do PC games still unlike several of the other companies that have bailed exclusively to consoles. So if you feel you can do a good review and get the word out. Contact me. Here are some resources I got today from RATBAG you will get! 1. Interviews with the team or team members 2. Promotional samples limit 50 (available on release) 3. Artwork - Screen shots, logo's etc. 4. Demo - Available First week of Feb 5. The lastest available review code." To me this meant you were looking for biased "good" reviews and only for sites that could "get the word out". "Don Wilshe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:rxr8b.52764$[email hidden]...

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> > "Schooner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Ndq8b.69717$[email hidden]... > > Oh I agree the Ratbag sims are good, it was Don asking people to do > unbiased > > reviews that had to be positive that the issue is. > > Just give me a name of any person that i asked to write a baised review. > Cant > > > Bottom line is RATBAG games even though they lack in MP. they are the

best

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> driving games in the world. Tell me that driving on dirt doesnt kick > butt... > > Don > > >

"Cliff Roman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:pov8b.428015$o%2.194707@sccrnsc02... > I am still waiting for that dirt racing series or whatever it was that you > were supposed to have go all over the country. > > What exactly was that? It was so big that I can not even remember Ratbag's sponsored the World of Outlaws. They gave away like $100,000 over 3 years. I think thats pretty good for a gaming company to give back. No other one ever did at this level.... I am marketing person for www.uscsracing.com and we race sprint cars in 42 cities. Don Be nice or Ill come kick your butt in madden 2004 <g>

"Schooner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:WWC8b.69842$[email hidden]... > And wasn't he involved in the new reality TV show for rally racers or > something as well? Yes I was a marketing guy for www.rallyracer.com we have film in the car and should be on tv soon.. waiting for our 13 week slot.. don

"Schooner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:O0D8b.69844$[email hidden]...

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> "Don Wilshe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message : > > Here is a little update on the resources we have for reviewers. Again > looking for websites that review games and are interested in RATBAG > latest products about to be released. These are for PC Games and we > try and support RATBAGs as they do PC games still unlike several of > the other companies that have bailed exclusively to consoles. So > if you feel you can do a good review and get the word out. Contact > me. > > Here are some resources I got today from RATBAG you will get! > 1. Interviews with the team or team members > 2. Promotional samples limit 50 (available on release) > 3. Artwork - Screen shots, logo's etc. > 4. Demo - Available First week of Feb > 5. The lastest available review code." >

Good review doesnt mean a biased review.. it means accurate.. don

LOL, my Madden league runs 2003 :) "Don Wilshe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:yfF8b.54651$[email hidden]... > > "Cliff Roman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:pov8b.428015$o%2.194707@sccrnsc02... > > I am still waiting for that dirt racing series or whatever it was thatyou

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> > were supposed to have go all over the country. > > > > What exactly was that? It was so big that I can not even remember > > Ratbag's sponsored the World of Outlaws. > > They gave away like $100,000 over 3 years. > > I think thats pretty good for a gaming company to give back. No other > one ever did at this level.... > > I am marketing person for www.uscsracing.com and we race sprint cars > in 42 cities. > > Don > > Be nice or Ill come kick your butt in madden 2004 <g> > > > >

"Don Wilshe" said: > Tell me that driving on dirt doesnt kick butt... Driving on dirt does NOT kick butt. -- ed_

"Don Wilshe" said: Driving on dirt does NOT kick butt. -- ed_

On 10 Sep 2003 04:32:11 -0700, [email hidden] (Bruce Millar) wrote: >Has anyone tried these and reviewed them yet? $600 - $1000 you have got to be kidding me.

It's a great wheel/pedal combo if you are serious about your driving. It will last a lifetime. "Dwayne" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On 10 Sep 2003 04:32:11 -0700, [email hidden] (Bruce Millar) > wrote: > > >Has anyone tried these and reviewed them yet? > > $600 - $1000 you have got to be kidding me. >

They are the best. I have owned three differnent models and would stop sim racing if I didn't have ECCI products. "Dwayne" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On 10 Sep 2003 04:32:11 -0700, [email hidden] (Bruce Millar) > wrote: > > >Has anyone tried these and reviewed them yet? > > $600 - $1000 you have got to be kidding me.

I bought Mike Grandy's ECCI CDS 4000 and its taken me to a new level of racing enjoyment and performance. If you are serious about sim racing or just want to improve the experience.. Buy a quality wheel. I recommend ECCI.. www.ecci.net Don Wilshe "Rush" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:V5Dfb.23731$[email hidden]... > They are the best. I have owned three differnent models and would stopsim

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> racing if I didn't have ECCI products. > > > "Dwayne" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > On 10 Sep 2003 04:32:11 -0700, [email hidden] (Bruce Millar) > > wrote: > > > > >Has anyone tried these and reviewed them yet? > > > > $600 - $1000 you have got to be kidding me. > > >

Considering what I paid for my CDS4000 I would agree wholeheartedly. -- Tim White "MARK D TANEN" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:STBfb.67897$[email hidden]... > It's a great wheel/pedal combo if you are serious about your driving. It > will last a lifetime.

>"Dwayne" <[email hidden]> wrote > $600 - $1000 you have got to be kidding me. That's the normal price for high-end PC wheel controllers. Why are you surprised? Cheap plastic wheels are all under 100$, good plastic wheels from 100$ to 200$. High quality metal wheels are just that expensive, they are HIGH QUALITY METAL-made wheels. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- http://ymenard.cjb.net/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

I throughly agree! This TrackStar 6000GT is without a doubt, the best piece of gaming hardware I have ever bought! $900 very well spent. If you have the money and love sim racing, you owe it to yourself to try one. Believe me, you won't regret it. "Don Wilshe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:vqDfb.67919$[email hidden]...

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> I bought Mike Grandy's ECCI CDS 4000 and its taken me to a new > level of racing enjoyment and performance. If you are serious about > sim racing or just want to improve the experience.. Buy a > quality wheel. I recommend ECCI.. www.ecci.net > > Don Wilshe > > > > "Rush" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:V5Dfb.23731$[email hidden]... > > They are the best. I have owned three differnent models and would stop > sim > > racing if I didn't have ECCI products. > > > > > > "Dwayne" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > On 10 Sep 2003 04:32:11 -0700, [email hidden] (Bruce Millar) > > > wrote: > > > > > > >Has anyone tried these and reviewed them yet? > > > > > > $600 - $1000 you have got to be kidding me. > > > > > > > >

Can the pedal unit be bought separately? Jeff Eiland "Don Wilshe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:vqDfb.67919$[email hidden]...

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> I bought Mike Grandy's ECCI CDS 4000 and its taken me to a new > level of racing enjoyment and performance. If you are serious about > sim racing or just want to improve the experience.. Buy a > quality wheel. I recommend ECCI.. www.ecci.net > > Don Wilshe > > > > "Rush" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:V5Dfb.23731$[email hidden]... > > They are the best. I have owned three differnent models and would stop > sim > > racing if I didn't have ECCI products. > > > > > > "Dwayne" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > On 10 Sep 2003 04:32:11 -0700, [email hidden] (Bruce Millar) > > > wrote: > > > > > > >Has anyone tried these and reviewed them yet? > > > > > > $600 - $1000 you have got to be kidding me. > > > > > > > >

Jeff Eiland wrote: > > Can the pedal unit be bought separately? LOL, I was thinking the direct opposite since I'll prolly never replace my RedLine pedals with anything else, however, my homemade wheel is very.....homemade :-) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--