World Racing demo released....

.... at http://www.3dgamers.com/games/worldracing/#filelist How much of a sim it is I have no idea yet. -- Andrew. To email unscramble [email hidden] & remove spamtrap. Help make Usenet a better place: Check groups.google.com before asking a question. Don't top post. Trim your messages to include only relevent text.

The notes indicate the following: "Windows XP: We recommend using the drivers provided by the manufacturer (where possible, Microsoft certified!!) for Windows XP. These are the Microsoft factory-installed drivers for your computer setup." I guess I can't play because my drivers were not installed by the factory. <spamtrap@localhost> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> .... at http://www.3dgamers.com/games/worldracing/#filelist > > How much of a sim it is I have no idea yet. > -- > Andrew. To email unscramble [email hidden] & remove spamtrap. > Help make Usenet a better place: > Check groups.google.com before asking a question. > Don't top post. Trim your messages to include only relevent text.

On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 07:19:25 -0400, "JTBurn" <[email hidden]> wrote: >I guess I can't play because my drivers were not installed by the factory. >You aren't missing much, its sort of like Need For Speed with just a Mercedes SUV to meander around in. Nice graphics, unfortunately its so slow and dull you get a lot of time to enjoy them. I couldn't even get the SUV to roll :-( -- Andrew. To email unscramble [email hidden] & remove spamtrap. Help make Usenet a better place: Check groups.google.com before asking a question. Don't top post. Trim your messages to include only relevent text.

spamtrap@localhost wrote: > ... I couldn't even get the SUV to roll :-( It's not a sim then? :P Alan.

Alan wrote:

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> spamtrap@localhost wrote: > >> ... I couldn't even get the SUV to roll :-( > > > It's not a sim then? :P > > Alan. > > >

It's not GPL. :) -- Gerry Aitken ...and a friend shall lose a friend's hammer -- Book of Cyril, chapter 6, verse 16

<spamtrap@localhost> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 07:19:25 -0400, "JTBurn" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >I guess I can't play because my drivers were not installed by thefactory.

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> > > You aren't missing much, its sort of like Need For Speed with just a > Mercedes SUV to meander around in. Nice graphics, unfortunately its so > slow and dull you get a lot of time to enjoy them. I couldn't even get > the SUV to roll :-( > -- > Andrew. To email unscramble [email hidden] & remove spamtrap. > Help make Usenet a better place: > Check groups.google.com before asking a question. > Don't top post. Trim your messages to include only relevent text.

There is more in the demo, than just the SUV. You can drive a 300SL Gullwing, A-Class and a SLK 230 Kompressor version. If it's too arcadish, you can adjust just how sim'ish or arcad'ish you want, from 0 to 100%. Look under game options. Deadzone can be adjusted to. Poke around under options, its well hidden ;) And if you dont want to drive againt the AI, turn where ever you like and enjoy a freeride in the Alps ;) / Borchers

Wow.. sounds pretty neat.. The environment graphics look AMAAAZING. Mike http://mikebeauchamp.com "Karsten Borchers" <karsten@*spam*borchers.dk> wrote in message news:3f6251e8$0$32522$[email hidden]...

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> <spamtrap@localhost> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 07:19:25 -0400, "JTBurn" > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > >I guess I can't play because my drivers were not installed by the > factory. > > > > > You aren't missing much, its sort of like Need For Speed with just a > > Mercedes SUV to meander around in. Nice graphics, unfortunately its so > > slow and dull you get a lot of time to enjoy them. I couldn't even get > > the SUV to roll :-( > > -- > > Andrew. To email unscramble [email hidden] & remove spamtrap. > > Help make Usenet a better place: > > Check groups.google.com before asking a question. > > Don't top post. Trim your messages to include only relevent text. > > > There is more in the demo, than just the SUV. You can drive a 300SL > Gullwing, A-Class and a SLK 230 Kompressor version. If it's too arcadish, > you can adjust just how sim'ish or arcad'ish you want, from 0 to 100%.

Look > under game options. Deadzone can be adjusted to. Poke around underoptions,

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> its well hidden ;) > > And if you dont want to drive againt the AI, turn where ever you like and > enjoy a freeride in the Alps ;) > > > / Borchers > >

Wow....it's no GPL but, damn, this just might be the next NFS: PU !!!! A very impressive semi-sim!

I agree .Gorgeous graphics and some cool cars with pretty good AI. Did I mention gorgeous graphics? "Steve Simpson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:bjun4a$n7ihi$[email hidden]... > Wow....it's no GPL but, damn, this just might be the next NFS: PU !!!! A > very impressive semi-sim! > >

Agreed. Looks like the Mercedes version of NFS:PU. Graphics are gorgeous and my wheel works perfectly. :) I ordered the full version from a UK-based place; they said Sept 19 is the release date. I haven't tried it on full-sim or full-arcade yet; only the default setting. - TN Doug Hook wrote:

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> I agree .Gorgeous graphics and some cool cars with pretty good AI. Did I > mention gorgeous graphics? > > "Steve Simpson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:bjun4a$n7ihi$[email hidden]... > >>Wow....it's no GPL but, damn, this just might be the next NFS: PU !!!! A >>very impressive semi-sim! >> >> > > >

> Agreed. Looks like the Mercedes version of NFS:PU. Graphics are > gorgeous and my wheel works perfectly. :) Yeah, feels great. Most arcade-style games feel ridiculous with my wheel. Race Driver comes to mind....... Oh and CMR3.

On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 11:54:05 +0100, spamtrap@localhost wrote: >.... at http://www.3dgamers.com/games/worldracing/#filelist > >How much of a sim it is I have no idea yet. Check out this video to see how amazing this sim is: http://estima.ribersborg.net/test2.wmv Andre

On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 09:30:04 GMT, Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> wrote: >Check out this video to see how amazing this sim is: >http://estima.ribersborg.net/test2.wmv >I would hardly call a video that is 99% driving on water as a sim. -- Andrew. To email unscramble [email hidden] & remove spamtrap. Help make Usenet a better place: Check groups.google.com before asking a question. Don't top post. Trim your messages to include only relevent text.

My one complaint so far is the FF, it feels very canned, like a fixed spring. Other than that it's a great game. "Steve Simpson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:bk0r5v$mtk4e$[email hidden]...

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> > Agreed. Looks like the Mercedes version of NFS:PU. Graphics are > > gorgeous and my wheel works perfectly. :) > > Yeah, feels great. Most arcade-style games feel ridiculous with my wheel. > Race Driver comes to mind....... Oh and CMR3. > >

"Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > My one complaint so far is the FF, it feels very canned, like a fixed > spring. Other than that it's a great game. > I took the off road all terrain vechile and drove off road for about an hour and was still finding new places on the Swiss Alp map. Amazingly complex terrain model. A heck of a lot of fun too. ;o) Elrikk

On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 10:51:04 +0100, spamtrap@localhost wrote:

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>On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 09:30:04 GMT, Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> >wrote: > >>Check out this video to see how amazing this sim is: >>http://estima.ribersborg.net/test2.wmv >> >I would hardly call a video that is 99% driving on water as a sim.

Errr.. perhaps I was trying to be cynical? Andre

On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 11:54:05 +0100, spamtrap@localhost wrote: >.... at http://www.3dgamers.com/games/worldracing/#filelist > >How much of a sim it is I have no idea yet. Today I spent a couple of hours on it. First impressions were bad. Very clumsy menu, major sound stuttering, during the first race on a track called 'Area 51' the sky was cluttered with UFOs, balloons and airplanes flying 100m above the ground.. But, more importantly, the driving itself didn't feel bad at all. So first of all I installed the latest SBLive drivers to get rid of the stuttering. It helped partially - first there is the crackling, after a second or 10 I hear a popping sound and then all of a sudden the crackling is totally gone. Weird. I tried some other tracks, and they were much better than that Area 51 track. Especially the Alps track was beautifull. Big spaces to race on (6x6miles) with different circuits and routes setup in each area. 7 areas in total, with a total of 120 different routes and tracks. The first cars you can drive are slooooow. Also the gearing seems strange, I drive 140km/h in 3rd before it redlines.. but when you get the faster cars, the whole thing becomes funfunfun. World racing is sliding paradise! A nice feature is that the computer gives you comments about your driving. Its nice to see COOL SLIDING! after you did a really cool sliding :)) All in all, a very enjoyable game allthough it has quite some shortcomings and bugs. One thing I would like to see in a patch is more graphic options, you can hardly set anything on or off in this game. And during some extreme situations the fps drops a little bit too much on my system. I'd also like to be able to turn those annoying UFO's and crap like that off. Bottom line: having much fun with it, definately going to buy it. Andre

Andre get it from my website.... online shop AD

On Sat, 13 Sep 2003 23:55:17 -0300, F50 GT <[email hidden]> wrote: >Agreed. Looks like the Mercedes version of NFS:PU. Graphics are >gorgeous and my wheel works perfectly. :) >Hmmm, somehow it seems the graphics on my PC aren't working right, then. They appear as if it were using software rendering (though it isn't). I'm suspecting that, though the readme file specifies a 32MB video card as a minimum, in practice it may require at least 64MB to properly display the textures... OTOH, it seems there are two different demos, one is ~62MB while the other is ~83MB. Does nayone know the difference between them (currently, I've installed the smaller one). -- __________ ____---____ Marco Antonio Checa Funcke \_________D /-/---_----' Santiago de Surco, Lima, Peru _H__/_/ http://machf.tripod.com '-_____|( remove the "no_me_j." and "sons.of." parts before replying

Anyone having problems configuring their wheel? It doesn't seem to be recognizing my TSW with split axis properly. On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 11:54:05 +0100, spamtrap@localhost wrote: >.... at http://www.3dgamers.com/games/worldracing/#filelist > >How much of a sim it is I have no idea yet.

Hey, how have you been? I haven't heard much form you since I left lincoln, IL about three years ago. Everything going ok? Gary Kendall T. Wortman wrote:

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> > Anyone having problems configuring their wheel? It doesn't seem to be > recognizing my TSW with split axis properly. > > On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 11:54:05 +0100, spamtrap@localhost wrote: > > >.... at http://www.3dgamers.com/games/worldracing/#filelist > > > >How much of a sim it is I have no idea yet.

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The reflections on the hood do look a little crude to me, but the rest of it looks pretty good. I'm using a 128 meg Ti 4200. I have the ~62 mb demo file, haven't seen the other one. "machf" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > Hmmm, somehow it seems the graphics on my PC aren't working right, then. > They appear as if it were using software rendering (though it isn't). > I'm suspecting that, though the readme file specifies a 32MB video > card as a minimum, in practice it may require at least 64MB to properly > display the textures... > > OTOH, it seems there are two different demos, one is ~62MB while the other > is ~83MB. Does nayone know the difference between them (currently, I've > installed the smaller one). > > -- > __________ ____---____ Marco Antonio Checa Funcke > \_________D /-/---_----' Santiago de Surco, Lima, Peru > _H__/_/ http://machf.tripod.com > '-_____|( > > remove the "no_me_j." and "sons.of." parts before replying

I've been trying to download it for days. All dead links, except for Austrailia, which never does anything. Whatever the Bittorrent thing is, I'll pass. -Larry "T. Wortman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Anyone having problems configuring their wheel? It doesn't seem to be > recognizing my TSW with split axis properly. > > On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 11:54:05 +0100, spamtrap@localhost wrote: > > >.... at http://www.3dgamers.com/games/worldracing/#filelist > > > >How much of a sim it is I have no idea yet. >

On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 14:04:55 -0400, "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote: >I've been trying to download it for days. All dead links, except for >Austrailia, which never does anything. > >Whatever the Bittorrent thing is, I'll pass. >Bittorrent is cool, it is like a peer to peer system whereby you share the file you are downloading with others while your download is running, and everyone grabs different pieces from everyone else. The Bittorrent software puts all the pieces together and verifies the integrity of the file. -- Andrew. To email unscramble [email hidden] & remove spamtrap. Help make Usenet a better place: English is read downwards, please don't top post. Trim messages to quote only relevent text. Check groups.google.com before asking a question.

On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 14:04:55 -0400, "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote: >I've been trying to download it for days. All dead links, except for >Austrailia, which never does anything. >You'r refering to the links at 3dgamers, right? I had the same problem... So I went to PCGameWorld instead: http://www.pcgameworld.com/download.php/id/4488/folder/demos/filename/world_racing_demo.exe There are several other links there, I downloaded from this one: http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/pc/games/pcgameworld/demos/world_racing_demo.exe

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>Whatever the Bittorrent thing is, I'll pass. > >-Larry > >"T. Wortman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> Anyone having problems configuring their wheel? It doesn't seem to be >> recognizing my TSW with split axis properly. >> >> On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 11:54:05 +0100, spamtrap@localhost wrote: >> >> >.... at http://www.3dgamers.com/games/worldracing/#filelist >> > >> >How much of a sim it is I have no idea yet. >> >

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On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 14:50:20 -0400, "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Don't need it. I have a 3mbit pipe :) >Yeah but if you don't have a URL that works, then 2 tin cans and a bit of string performs just as well. The idea of Bittorrent is that it shares the load of popular downloads round the net rather than hammering the main download sites. -- Andrew. To email unscramble [email hidden] & remove spamtrap. Help make Usenet a better place: English is read downwards, please don't top post. Trim messages to quote only relevent text. Check groups.google.com before asking a question.

Don't need it. I have a 3mbit pipe :) Larry <spamtrap@localhost> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 14:04:55 -0400, "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >I've been trying to download it for days. All dead links, except for > >Austrailia, which never does anything. > > > >Whatever the Bittorrent thing is, I'll pass. > > > Bittorrent is cool, it is like a peer to peer system whereby you share > the file you are downloading with others while your download is > running, and everyone grabs different pieces from everyone else. The > Bittorrent software puts all the pieces together and verifies the > integrity of the file. > -- > Andrew. To email unscramble [email hidden] & remove spamtrap. > Help make Usenet a better place: English is read downwards, > please don't top post. Trim messages to quote only relevent text. > Check groups.google.com before asking a question.

Your 3mbit pipe does no good if all you've got are dead links wiseguy.... "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:50nab.71001$Go4.8667@lakeread01...

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> Don't need it. I have a 3mbit pipe :) > > Larry > > <spamtrap@localhost> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 14:04:55 -0400, "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > >I've been trying to download it for days. All dead links, except for > > >Austrailia, which never does anything. > > > > > >Whatever the Bittorrent thing is, I'll pass. > > > > > Bittorrent is cool, it is like a peer to peer system whereby you share > > the file you are downloading with others while your download is > > running, and everyone grabs different pieces from everyone else. The > > Bittorrent software puts all the pieces together and verifies the > > integrity of the file. > > -- > > Andrew. To email unscramble [email hidden] & remove spamtrap. > > Help make Usenet a better place: English is read downwards, > > please don't top post. Trim messages to quote only relevent text. > > Check groups.google.com before asking a question. > >

On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 19:47:55 +0100, spamtrap@localhost wrote:

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>On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 14:50:20 -0400, "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote: > >>Don't need it. I have a 3mbit pipe :) >> >Yeah but if you don't have a URL that works, then 2 tin cans and a bit >of string performs just as well. > >The idea of Bittorrent is that it shares the load of popular downloads >round the net rather than hammering the main download sites.

So, if you are looking for something that isn't popular, you're screwed? -- __________ ____---____ Marco Antonio Checa Funcke \_________D /-/---_----' Santiago de Surco, Lima, Peru _H__/_/ http://machf.tripod.com '-_____|( remove the "no_me_j." and "sons.of." parts before replying

On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 01:13:56 -0500, machf <[email hidden]> wrote: >So, if you are looking for something that isn't popular, you're screwed? I am not sure how Bittorrent works on less popular/older files. All I know is that I have been pleased with it for the files I have tried, its a clever program. -- Andrew. To email unscramble [email hidden] & remove spamtrap. Help make Usenet a better place: English is read downwards, please don't top post. Trim messages to quote only relevent text. Check groups.google.com before asking a question.

In article <[email hidden]>, spamtrap@localhost () wrote: > I am not sure how Bittorrent works on less popular/older files Not really its purpose, I imagine. I think BT is a superb solution to the main problem with newly released demos, patches, etc. which is that you get a DL speed of about 1k a week even if you can get to the file in the first place. Once that initial peak's over (first few days I imagine) there will be fewer people sharing via BT and the main DL sites can take up the slack having saved a whole heap of bandwidth. Seems to me like everyone wins. Andrew McP

> How much of a sim it is I have no idea yet. NFS:PU with Benzes... this one goes on my shopping list. Jan. =---

On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 12:19:11 GMT, "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote: >> How much of a sim it is I have no idea yet. > >NFS:PU with Benzes... this one goes on my shopping list. > >Jan. >=--- It should be.. have been playing it for a week now, muchos fun. Andre

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> On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 12:19:11 GMT, "Jan Verschueren" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >> How much of a sim it is I have no idea yet. > > > >NFS:PU with Benzes... this one goes on my shopping list. > > > >Jan. > >=--- > > It should be.. have been playing it for a week now, muchos fun. >

It must not like "low-end" graphics cards, as I found the visuals decidedly worse than NFS:PU. I'm only running a 1GHz notebook with a 32Mb GeForce2Go, but I was rather disappointed. I found it novel for the first day or so to drive around the boundless map and see where I get to, but the driving feel was, for me, far behind NFS:PU and eventually it ended up in the trash bin. Stephen

> It must not like "low-end" graphics cards, as I found the visualsdecidedly > worse than NFS:PU. I'm only running a 1GHz notebook with a 32MbGeForce2Go, > but I was rather disappointed. I found it novel for the first day or soto > drive around the boundless map and see where I get to, but the drivingfeel > was, for me, far behind NFS:PU and eventually it ended up in the trashbin. Yes, unfortunately if your graphics card doesn't support pixel/vertex shaders the game looks well below average. Geforce2s and Geforce4 MXs don't have shaders. On a 1GHz laptop with a 32Mb GF2Go the graphics would be so slow that it would be nearly impossible to tell what the handling is like. I can assure you though, if you've got 2GHz+ CPU and a GF4Ti+ then this game is a NFS:PU killer. (As long as you run it in 100% simulation mode)

Jan Verschueren ([email hidden]) wrote... > > How much of a sim it is I have no idea yet. > > NFS:PU with Benzes... this one goes on my shopping list. The driving model doesn't feel as good to me...but more importantly I *really* cannot get on with the menu system. <rant> JUST LET ME USE MY *?!%ING MOUSE, OK ? </rant> I feel better now. Thanks. Ian -- Ian Riches Bedford, UK

> The driving model doesn't feel as good to me...but more importantly I > *really* cannot get on with the menu system. Turn the simulation option to 100%. The physics are different to NFS:PU - certainly not worse from a technical standpoint. Both games are arcade in nature though with physics that are just realistic enough to be fun. > <rant> > > JUST LET ME USE MY *?!%ING MOUSE, OK ? > > </rant> I don't find using arrow keys to be that difficult.

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> > It must not like "low-end" graphics cards, as I found the visuals > decidedly > > worse than NFS:PU. I'm only running a 1GHz notebook with a 32Mb > GeForce2Go, > > but I was rather disappointed. I found it novel for the first day or so > to > > drive around the boundless map and see where I get to, but the driving > feel > > was, for me, far behind NFS:PU and eventually it ended up in the trash > bin. > > Yes, unfortunately if your graphics card doesn't support pixel/vertex > shaders the game looks well below average. Geforce2s and Geforce4 MXs

don't > have shaders. On a 1GHz laptop with a 32Mb GF2Go the graphics would be so > slow that it would be nearly impossible to tell what the handling is like. > I can assure you though, if you've got 2GHz+ CPU and a GF4Ti+ then thisgame > is a NFS:PU killer. (As long as you run it in 100% simulation mode) I get 40fps, so I think I can adequately gauge the handling. Stephen

Steve Simpson ([email hidden]) wrote... > > The driving model doesn't feel as good to me...but more importantly I > > *really* cannot get on with the menu system. > > Turn the simulation option to 100%. The physics are different to NFS:PU - > certainly not worse from a technical standpoint. Both games are arcade in > nature though with physics that are just realistic enough to be fun. I'll try that. May not have found that menu option due to the (IMHO) terrible interface.

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Maybe not, but using home, delete etc. as well really makes it un intuitive to me. Can it *really* be that hard to add mouse support? If I'd wanted a games console, I'd have bought a games console...... Ian -- Ian Riches Bedford, UK

> I get 40fps, so I think I can adequately gauge the handling. Yeah, I guess with no AI cars and low detail you could get that. So what exactly about the handling is far worse than NFSPU?

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> > It must not like "low-end" graphics cards, as I found the visuals > decidedly > > worse than NFS:PU. I'm only running a 1GHz notebook with a 32Mb > GeForce2Go, > > but I was rather disappointed. I found it novel for the first day or so > to > > drive around the boundless map and see where I get to, but the driving > feel > > was, for me, far behind NFS:PU and eventually it ended up in the trash > bin. > > Yes, unfortunately if your graphics card doesn't support pixel/vertex > shaders the game looks well below average. Geforce2s and Geforce4 MXs

don't > have shaders. On a 1GHz laptop with a 32Mb GF2Go the graphics would be so > slow that it would be nearly impossible to tell what the handling is like. > I can assure you though, if you've got 2GHz+ CPU and a GF4Ti+ then thisgame > is a NFS:PU killer. (As long as you run it in 100% simulation mode) > >

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> > It must not like "low-end" graphics cards, as I found the visuals > decidedly > > worse than NFS:PU. I'm only running a 1GHz notebook with a 32Mb > GeForce2Go, > > but I was rather disappointed. I found it novel for the first day or so > to > > drive around the boundless map and see where I get to, but the driving > feel > > was, for me, far behind NFS:PU and eventually it ended up in the trash > bin.

did you adjust the simulation level to max ?

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>> <rant> >> >> JUST LET ME USE MY *?!%ING MOUSE, OK ? >> >> </rant> > >I don't find using arrow keys to be that difficult. >

This sounds vaguely familiar...<g> Eldred -- .sig file is at the cleaners... Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank -2.4 N2k3 rank ? Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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> > > It must not like "low-end" graphics cards, as I found the visuals > > decidedly worse than NFS:PU. I'm only running a 1GHz notebook > > with a 32Mb GeForce2Go, but I was rather disappointed. I found it > > novel for the first day or so to drive around the boundless map and > > see where I get to, but the driving feel was, for me, far behind NFS:PU > > and eventually it ended up in the trash bin. > > did you adjust the simulation level to max ? >

Yes, 100%. To be fair, I reloaded NFS:PU last night to see if I was seeing the world through the rose-tinted which time tends to cast over our eyes. Some cars in NFS:PU have waay too much grip (almost all the modern era cars) and the game takes on a decidedly arcade feel. However, most of my fun with NFS:PU was in the 550 Spyder, the late-60s 911S or the 356 Carrera, and all these cars still feel quite good the way the handle, slide, recover. Handling on the skidpad is also quite convincing in NFS:PU. I tried the various cars in the Mercedes demo but wasn't too excited by it all. The SLR just gripped and gripped and gripped. Perhaps they put some modern P-Zeros onto it, and swapped out the 50s era suspension for something more modern. Just an opinion, of course. Overall, my preference for a current driving sim is still LFS. Nice visuals, realistic environments, great track design and good frame rates on average machines. Stephen

> ... and good frame rates on average machines. I've never heard anybody say that about LFS before. : )

"Steve Simpson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:bkrkfl$4pe3o$[email hidden]... > > ... and good frame rates on average machines. > > I've never heard anybody say that about LFS before. : ) > Seriously, I get better framerates with 5 AI cars in LFS than I do in the Mercedes demo, and the graphics are, for me, more realistic. At 1024 x 768 x 16, race starts at South City are in the high 20s, then settle around 40fps once past the first corner. At 1024 x 768 x 16, the WR demo was always in the mid 20s during a race, not matter where the AI cars were. Just hotlapping alone in LFS, I get between 40 - 60 fps at my notebook's native screen resolution of 1400 x 1050 (16bit). Stephen

> Seriously, I get better framerates with 5 AI cars in LFS than I do in the > Mercedes demo, and the graphics are, for me, more realistic. At 1024 x768 > x 16, race starts at South City are in the high 20s, then settle around > 40fps once past the first corner. At 1024 x 768 x 16, the WR demo was > always in the mid 20s during a race, not matter where the AI cars were. > Just hotlapping alone in LFS, I get between 40 - 60 fps at my notebook's > native screen resolution of 1400 x 1050 (16bit). Again, on a 2GHz+ with GF4 or Ati 9700 - MBWR completely blows LFS out of the water in terms of graphics (pixel shaders simply rock) and frame rate. Also a game like GTR 2002 runs at twice the frame rate of LFS and looks slightly better. Apart from this minor quibble though, LFS is brilliant.

Is Slick waiting to take your order then ;-) (others disregard - in joke) MS "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3NBbb.33676$[email hidden]...

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> > How much of a sim it is I have no idea yet. > > NFS:PU with Benzes... this one goes on my shopping list. > > Jan. > =--- > >

"Mark Seery" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:bl9pg2$7du$[email hidden]...

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> Is Slick waiting to take your order then ;-) > > (others disregard - in joke) > > MS > > "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:3NBbb.33676$[email hidden]... > > > How much of a sim it is I have no idea yet. > > > > NFS:PU with Benzes... this one goes on my shopping list. > > > > Jan. > > =--- > > > > >

PS/2 I know, but it's had poor reviews todate IIRC. Shame, nearly bought it too.

"Mark Seery" wrote... > Is Slick waiting to take your order then ;-) > > (others disregard - in joke) My baltic contacts are keeping their cards close to their chest at the moment. Jan. =---