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Definitely not "definately"!

130 posts by 38 people · 12 Sep 2003 08:29 UTC - 20 Sep 2003 12:47 UTC

Spelling pet peeves, starting with 'definately'

Bruce Kennewell complained about the misspelling of 'definitely', and regulars piled in with their own peeves such as lose/loose, its/it's and your/you're. The thread widened into complaints about falling educational standards in several countries. It ended in a long tangent about Douglas Adams and the Hitchhiker's Guide radio series.

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Bruce Kennewell 12 Sep 2003 08:29 UTC#54722
Jeez! The number of people who stuff-up the spelling of this word is incredible and has finally irritated me to the point of posting this stupid message! For those of you who haven't a clue as to how to spell, for "definite", just think of the word "finite" and stick a bloody "de" in front of it. (Even the Wests can't spell it properly!) Rant over; go about your normal business. Bruce the Bellicose.
RM 12 Sep 2003 09:23 UTC↳ reply to Aidee#54726
Now no one knows the diff between "loose" and "lose". This is easily the most common mistake I see. "Aidee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:bjs2pk$eso$[email hidden]... > The most common spelling error when i was at school....it still bugs menow > when i see it wrong lol > > AD > >
"Bruce Kennewell" wrote... > Jeez! > <snip> I hadn't noticed it was spelled different ways in the subject line.... ::) I'll try to keep it in mind (for I know I have most *definitely* sinned). Jan. ;-) =---
Definatly many will defiantly disregard this advice of yours <g> Achim "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Jeez! > The number of people who stuff-up the spelling of this word is incredible > and has finally irritated me to the point of posting this stupid message! > > For those of you who haven't a clue as to how to spell, for "definite",just
Quoted text (9 lines)> think of the word "finite" and stick a bloody "de" in front of it. > > (Even the Wests can't spell it properly!) > > Rant over; go about your normal business. > > Bruce the Bellicose. > >
elrikk 12 Sep 2003 10:41 UTC↳ reply to RM#54733
"RM" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:0gg8b.4158588$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (11 lines)> Now no one knows the diff between "loose" and "lose". This is easily the > most common mistake I see. > > > "Aidee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:bjs2pk$eso$[email hidden]... > > The most common spelling error when i was at school....it still bugs me > now > > when i see it wrong lol > > > > AD
I beg to differ. The most common error is not "loose"/"lose" its "its"/"it's". ;o) Elrikk PS. Yeah, I know it's "it's".
"Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:7ig8b.15957$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (7 lines)> "Bruce Kennewell" wrote... > > Jeez! > > <snip> > > I hadn't noticed it was spelled different ways in the subject line.... ::) > > I'll try to keep it in mind (for I know I have most *definitely* sinned).
Me too: http://tinyurl.com/n404 Oh well... :-) Ice D
Dave 12 Sep 2003 11:14 UTC↳ reply to elrikk#54738
In article <_nh8b.51607$[email hidden]>, "elrikk" <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (18 lines)> >"RM" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:0gg8b.4158588$[email hidden]... >> Now no one knows the diff between "loose" and "lose". This is easily the >> most common mistake I see. >> >> >> "Aidee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:bjs2pk$eso$[email hidden]... >> > The most common spelling error when i was at school....it still bugs me >> now >> > when i see it wrong lol >> > >> > AD > > >I beg to differ. The most common error is not "loose"/"lose" its >"its"/"it's". ;o)
No _your_ wrong! :-) ["You're" and "your" certainly qualify for this enumeration of spelling transgressions]
Top-poster 12 Sep 2003 11:22 UTC↳ reply to RM#54640
Tell you what REALLY gets up my nose - adding an s after an apostrophe .... Jesus's, Simmonds's ..... <AAAARGH!> drives me nuts. "RM" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:0gg8b.4158588$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (15 lines)> Now no one knows the diff between "loose" and "lose". This is easily the > most common mistake I see. > > > "Aidee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:bjs2pk$eso$[email hidden]... > > The most common spelling error when i was at school....it still bugs me > now > > when i see it wrong lol > > > > AD > > > > > >
Then you should have watched "That'll teach them" - a UK reality TV show wherein 30 14 y-olds go back to a 1950's school with a1950's curriculum and 1950's discipline. Nothing short of jaw-dropping. Pupils estimated as likely to achieve "A" or "A-star" in GCSE French (among other subjects), spectacularly failed mock O-level's. Of the 30, there were fewer than 5 O-level passes - none of which was above "C" - which fits the statistically-substantiated pattern of educational decline and dumbing down witnessed since the 1980's (rising pass rates every year - 45% more at GCSE in the last 10 years alone). A relic methinx, of the "Let-it-all-hang-out" 60's - when UK society decided that it would be much nicer if nobody should have to suffer the anguish and ignominy of academic or sporting failure again. So let's lower the bar so everyone can get over. Duh! What about the kids it's failing ? - not least the bright ones who are never challenged. Things need to be turned around - Britain's becoming the dunce of Europe. "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Jeez! > The number of people who stuff-up the spelling of this word is incredible > and has finally irritated me to the point of posting this stupid message! > > For those of you who haven't a clue as to how to spell, for "definite",just
Quoted text (9 lines)> think of the word "finite" and stick a bloody "de" in front of it. > > (Even the Wests can't spell it properly!) > > Rant over; go about your normal business. > > Bruce the Bellicose. > >
OK...... now I understand why you guys enjoy NASCAR racing, it is the little things that get priority status. ;-) (Note how cleverly I avoided the its/it's saga) "Usenetter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:bjsbbv$1ac$[email hidden]... > Then you should have watched "That'll teach them" - a UK reality TV show > wherein 30 14 y-olds go back to a 1950's school with a1950's curriculumand > 1950's discipline. > Nothing short of jaw-dropping. > Pupils estimated as likely to achieve "A" or "A-star" in GCSE French(among > other subjects), spectacularly failed mock O-level's. > Of the 30, there were fewer than 5 O-level passes - none of which wasabove > "C" - which fits the statistically-substantiated pattern of educational > decline and dumbing down witnessed since the 1980's (rising pass ratesevery > year - 45% more at GCSE in the last 10 years alone). > A relic methinx, of the "Let-it-all-hang-out" 60's - when UK societydecided > that it would be much nicer if nobody should have to suffer the anguishand > ignominy of academic or sporting failure again. > So let's lower the bar so everyone can get over. > Duh! > What about the kids it's failing ? - not least the bright ones who arenever
Quoted text (9 lines)> challenged. > Things need to be turned around - Britain's becoming the dunce of Europe. > > > > "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Jeez! > > The number of people who stuff-up the spelling of this word is
incredible > > and has finally irritated me to the point of posting this stupidmessage!
Quoted text (14 lines)> > > > For those of you who haven't a clue as to how to spell, for "definite", > just > > think of the word "finite" and stick a bloody "de" in front of it. > > > > (Even the Wests can't spell it properly!) > > > > Rant over; go about your normal business. > > > > Bruce the Bellicose. > > > > > >
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 11:14:05 GMT, [email hidden] (Dave) wrote:
Quoted text (7 lines)>"elrikk" <[email hidden]> wrote: >>I beg to differ. The most common error is not "loose"/"lose" its >>"its"/"it's". ;o) > >No _your_ wrong! :-) >
My wrong _what_? JD
"Usenetter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:bjsbbv$1ac$[email hidden]... > What about the kids it's failing ? - not least the bright ones who arenever > challenged. Things need to be turned around - Britain's becoming the > dunce of Europe. > If it's any consolation, from my direct observations, I would say that we are also breeding a society of mouth-breathing morons in Canada, the USA, Germany and Switzerland. Same philosophy... the grades for which I busted my ass, even as recently as in the 1980s, are now given away to provide everyone with a touchy-feely, "I'm ok and so are you" sensation. :-) Stephen
"Steve Simpson" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:bjsglb$lo4l0$[email hidden]: > I seem to constantly see people mixing up "your" and "you're" Really > bugs me for some reason...... > > > So what yer saying is your ears twinge each time you read you're.... Y'all have a nice day. dav hnree
It's egalitarianism gone mad. Men (and for that matter, women) are not created equal ..... thank God, but the trouble is that we live in a society so pussified, it can't face up to the fact. Why ? Because it regards difference in a negative, hierarchical way - inter-twined as it was historically, with class, race and gender discrimination. Therefore, difference must be denied. In endeavouring to counter negative discrimination, the politically-correct/naive have succeeded only in eliminating qualitative discrimination - a fundamental part of the education system. Not everybody's academic - so why not sift them what is from them who ain't, which avails the non-academically inclined of more vocational education. This be the reason that we're falling at the first hurdle - and why kids are entering secondary education without elementary competency in the three R's. Back to rote, I say. Nothing wrong with learning your tables - it's the easiest way of programming memory. Seems common sense is anything but, in education. I mean, the very idea of leaving your kids' education to the sort of people who end up teachers! "Stephen F." <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3f61d1d2$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (12 lines)> > "Usenetter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:bjsbbv$1ac$[email hidden]... > > What about the kids it's failing ? - not least the bright ones who are > never > > challenged. Things need to be turned around - Britain's becoming the > > dunce of Europe. > > > > If it's any consolation, from my direct observations, I would say that we > are also breeding a society of mouth-breathing morons in Canada, the USA, > Germany and Switzerland. Same philosophy... the grades for which I busted
my
Quoted text (7 lines)> ass, even as recently as in the 1980s, are now given away to provide > everyone with a touchy-feely, "I'm ok and so are you" sensation. :-) > > Stephen > > >
"John DiFool" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (13 lines)> On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 11:14:05 GMT, [email hidden] (Dave) wrote: > > >"elrikk" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >>I beg to differ. The most common error is not "loose"/"lose" its > >>"its"/"it's". ;o) > > > >No _your_ wrong! :-) > > > > My wrong _what_? > > JD
Its a good thing that all you're English teachers is'nt here to read all these mis-steaks.. Elrikk ;o)
No one has mentioned the confusion between "break" as in "I think I've broken something", and "brake" as in to slow down for a corner or obstacle, etc. :) Sean "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Jeez! > The number of people who stuff-up the spelling of this word is incredible > and has finally irritated me to the point of posting this stupid message! > > For those of you who haven't a clue as to how to spell, for "definite",just
Quoted text (9 lines)> think of the word "finite" and stick a bloody "de" in front of it. > > (Even the Wests can't spell it properly!) > > Rant over; go about your normal business. > > Bruce the Bellicose. > >
Joachim Trensz wrote: > Definatly many will defiantly disregard this advice of yours <g> Definately! Remember that prat in legends League who always spelt always 'allways'? That really pissed me off. That and the fact he would post in HTML and never left a clear line between quoted text and his moronic replies! But I could have forgiven him all of that if he'd been able to drive more than two laps without crashing into me. Of course it was never his fault tho'! Does he still play IL2 with you lot? -- Gerry Aitken ...and a friend shall lose a friend's hammer -- Book of Cyril, chapter 6, verse 16
"Stephen F." wrote: > > If it's any consolation, from my direct observations, I would say that we > are also breeding a society of mouth-breathing morons in Canada, the USA, > Germany and Switzerland. Same philosophy... the grades for which I busted my > ass, even as recently as in the 1980s, are now given away to provide > everyone with a touchy-feely, "I'm ok and so are you" sensation. :-) Same in Norway, kids can't read worth a damn, in my shop there are several signs that says the boxes on display are empty, since the boxes keep disappearing I can only conclude that they can't read or are actually out steeling empty boxes Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--
Usenetter wrote: > > Tell you what REALLY gets up my nose - adding an s after an apostrophe .... > Jesus's, Simmonds's ..... <AAAARGH!> drives me nuts. How about websight ? I like this thread :-) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--
How about "noone" instead of "no one"? George Adams "All good fishermen stay young until they die, for fishing is the only dream of youth that doth not grow stale with age." ---- J.W Muller
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 18:29:20 +1000, "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (13 lines)>Jeez! >The number of people who stuff-up the spelling of this word is incredible >and has finally irritated me to the point of posting this stupid message! > >For those of you who haven't a clue as to how to spell, for "definite", just >think of the word "finite" and stick a bloody "de" in front of it. > >(Even the Wests can't spell it properly!) > >Rant over; go about your normal business. > >Bruce the Bellicose. >
I am going back to college, and a couple of weeks ago, I was stunned when in class one of my professors stated that no one would be required to read out loud in class, due to the fact that numerous students couldn't read. WTH??????? This was a Junior level class, WTH are the teachers teaching these kids? Yet, it suddenly dawns on me, most of these people post on usenet. LOL
Bruce Kennewell wrote:
Quoted text (14 lines)> Jeez! > The number of people who stuff-up the spelling of this word is incredible > and has finally irritated me to the point of posting this stupid message! > > For those of you who haven't a clue as to how to spell, for "definite", just > think of the word "finite" and stick a bloody "de" in front of it. > > (Even the Wests can't spell it properly!) > > Rant over; go about your normal business. > > Bruce the Bellicose. > >
Do you work for the OOBI? -- Gerry Aitken ...and a friend shall lose a friend's hammer -- Book of Cyril, chapter 6, verse 16
"elrikk" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:_nh8b.51607$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (10 lines)> > "RM" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:0gg8b.4158588$[email hidden]... > > Now no one knows the diff between "loose" and "lose". This is easily the > > most common mistake I see. > > > > > > "Aidee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:bjs2pk$eso$[email hidden]... > > > The most common spelling error when i was at school....it still bugs
me
Quoted text (15 lines)> > now > > > when i see it wrong lol > > > > > > AD > > > I beg to differ. The most common error is not "loose"/"lose" its > "its"/"it's". ;o) > > > Elrikk > > PS. Yeah, I know it's "it's". > >
Wrong, dictionary breath, it's separate, most commonly misspelled as "seperate". :) Alanb
"Usenetter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:bjsa9i$57f$[email hidden]... > Tell you what REALLY gets up my nose - adding an s after an apostrophe.... > Jesus's, Simmonds's ..... <AAAARGH!> drives me nuts. > > > Actually, both ways is acceptable usage. Alanb
Quoted text (9 lines)> "RM" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:0gg8b.4158588$[email hidden]... > > Now no one knows the diff between "loose" and "lose". This is easily the > > most common mistake I see. > > > > > > "Aidee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:bjs2pk$eso$[email hidden]... > > > The most common spelling error when i was at school....it still bugs
me
Quoted text (10 lines)> > now > > > when i see it wrong lol > > > > > > AD > > > > > > > > > > > >
"Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... I can only conclude that they can't read or are > actually out steeling empty boxes > > > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy > "goyl at nettx dot no" Steeling, Uncle? :-)
Colin Harris 12 Sep 2003 20:59 UTC#531170
I can only conclude that they can't read or are Steeling, Uncle? :-)
Sue 12 Sep 2003 21:03 UTC↳ reply to Aidee#54591
"Aidee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:bjs2pk$eso$[email hidden]... > The most common spelling error when i was at school....it still bugs me now > when i see it wrong lol > > AD > > I definitely know what you mean :-D
Sue 12 Sep 2003 21:04 UTC↳ reply to elrikk#54592
"elrikk" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:_nh8b.51607$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (23 lines)> > "RM" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:0gg8b.4158588$[email hidden]... > > Now no one knows the diff between "loose" and "lose". This is easily the > > most common mistake I see. > > > > > > "Aidee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:bjs2pk$eso$[email hidden]... > > > The most common spelling error when i was at school....it still bugs me > > now > > > when i see it wrong lol > > > > > > AD > > > I beg to differ. The most common error is not "loose"/"lose" its > "its"/"it's". ;o) > > > Elrikk > > PS. Yeah, I know it's "it's".
and people who get your and you're mixed up
"Alan Bernardo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:jKp8b.426417$Ho3.68025@sccrnsc03...
Quoted text (37 lines)> > "elrikk" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:_nh8b.51607$[email hidden]... > > > > "RM" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:0gg8b.4158588$[email hidden]... > > > Now no one knows the diff between "loose" and "lose". This is easily the > > > most common mistake I see. > > > > > > > > > "Aidee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:bjs2pk$eso$[email hidden]... > > > > The most common spelling error when i was at school....it still bugs > me > > > now > > > > when i see it wrong lol > > > > > > > > AD > > > > > > I beg to differ. The most common error is not "loose"/"lose" its > > "its"/"it's". ;o) > > > > > > Elrikk > > > > PS. Yeah, I know it's "it's". > > > > > > Wrong, dictionary breath, it's separate, most commonly misspelled as > "seperate". > > :) > > Alanb >
then there are those who type suprise instead of surprise :-)
Sue 12 Sep 2003 21:06 UTC↳ reply to Goy Larsen#54595
"Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (10 lines)> > > Usenetter wrote: > > > > Tell you what REALLY gets up my nose - adding an s after an apostrophe .... > > Jesus's, Simmonds's ..... <AAAARGH!> drives me nuts. > > How about websight ? > > I like this thread :-)
:-) Goy your (not you're!) spelling is better than a lot who have English as their FIRST language
I remember him, and now, he doesn't play FB with us anymore. I guess he's allways busy <g> Achim "Gerry Aitken" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... ...
Quoted text (9 lines)> Remember that prat in legends League who always spelt always 'allways'? > That really pissed me off. That and the fact he would post in HTML and > never left a clear line between quoted text and his moronic replies! > > But I could have forgiven him all of that if he'd been able to drive > more than two laps without crashing into me. Of course it was never his > fault tho'! > > Does he still play IL2 with you lot?
...
> "Usenetter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:bjsa9i$57f$[email hidden]... > > Tell you what REALLY gets up my nose - adding an s after an apostrophe > .... > > Jesus's, Simmonds's ..... <AAAARGH!> drives me nuts. This one depends on the context. Example: John is coming to see me is correct as "John's coming to see me." But "John's car" would actually mean John is car, which is wrong of course
Sue 12 Sep 2003 21:11 UTC↳ reply to Goy Larsen#54596
"Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (7 lines)> > > George Adams wrote: > > > > How about "noone" instead of "no one"? > > <blush>
lol
Sue 12 Sep 2003 21:15 UTC↳ reply to Top-poster#54604
"Usenetter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:bjsbbv$1ac$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (18 lines)> Then you should have watched "That'll teach them" - a UK reality TV show > wherein 30 14 y-olds go back to a 1950's school with a1950's curriculum and > 1950's discipline. > Nothing short of jaw-dropping. > Pupils estimated as likely to achieve "A" or "A-star" in GCSE French (among > other subjects), spectacularly failed mock O-level's. > Of the 30, there were fewer than 5 O-level passes - none of which was above > "C" - which fits the statistically-substantiated pattern of educational > decline and dumbing down witnessed since the 1980's (rising pass rates every > year - 45% more at GCSE in the last 10 years alone). > A relic methinx, of the "Let-it-all-hang-out" 60's - when UK society decided > that it would be much nicer if nobody should have to suffer the anguish and > ignominy of academic or sporting failure again. > So let's lower the bar so everyone can get over. > Duh! > What about the kids it's failing ? - not least the bright ones who are never > challenged. > Things need to be turned around - Britain's becoming the dunce of Europe.
Its the same in the US, in fact probably worse I would say. I heard recently of them lowering the level to pass some exam or other because not enough students this year passed. Never mind anything logical like trying to IMPROVE the system so the kids learn enough to pass at the previous level! Over here there is a lot of emphasis put on students getting "straight A" grades. This is something I had never heard of growing up in the UK, and to me its ridiculous. If you are getting an A in everything in school, then either the work is too easy for you and you need to be pushed a bit harder IMO. Unless you are a child genius, which very few are, I see nothing to brag about with regard to straight A grades.
Quoted text (22 lines)> > > > "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Jeez! > > The number of people who stuff-up the spelling of this word is incredible > > and has finally irritated me to the point of posting this stupid message! > > > > For those of you who haven't a clue as to how to spell, for "definite", > just > > think of the word "finite" and stick a bloody "de" in front of it. > > > > (Even the Wests can't spell it properly!) > > > > Rant over; go about your normal business. > > > > Bruce the Bellicose. > > > > > >
Sue 12 Sep 2003 21:16 UTC↳ reply to Goy Larsen#54599
"Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (14 lines)> > > "Stephen F." wrote: > > > > If it's any consolation, from my direct observations, I would say that we > > are also breeding a society of mouth-breathing morons in Canada, the USA, > > Germany and Switzerland. Same philosophy... the grades for which I busted my > > ass, even as recently as in the 1980s, are now given away to provide > > everyone with a touchy-feely, "I'm ok and so are you" sensation. :-) > > Same in Norway, kids can't read worth a damn, in my shop there are > several signs that says the boxes on display are empty, since the boxes > keep disappearing I can only conclude that they can't read or are > actually out steeling empty boxes
you mean 'stealing' empty boxes? ;-)
Colin Harris wrote:
Quoted text (12 lines)> > "Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > I can only conclude that they can't read or are > > actually out steeling empty boxes > > > > > > Beers and cheers > > (uncle) Goy > > "goyl at nettx dot no" > > Steeling, Uncle? :-)
Ignorance is a bliss..... Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--
"Colin Harris" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:wsq8b.82$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (15 lines)> > "Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > I can only conclude that they can't read or are > > actually out steeling empty boxes > > > > > > Beers and cheers > > (uncle) Goy > > "goyl at nettx dot no" > > > > Steeling, Uncle? :-) >
LOL! great minds think alike :-))
Goy Larsen 12 Sep 2003 21:17 UTC↳ reply to Sue#54598
Sue wrote:
Quoted text (13 lines)> > "Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > Usenetter wrote: > > > > > > Tell you what REALLY gets up my nose - adding an s after an apostrophe .... > > > Jesus's, Simmonds's ..... <AAAARGH!> drives me nuts. > > > > How about websight ? > > > > I like this thread :-) > :-) Goy your (not you're!) spelling is better than a lot who have English as their FIRST language
Yeah, but apparently I can't spell steal...... Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--
Sue 12 Sep 2003 21:20 UTC↳ reply to Rusty Unger#54601
"Rusty Unger" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (24 lines)> On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 18:29:20 +1000, "Bruce Kennewell" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Jeez! > >The number of people who stuff-up the spelling of this word is incredible > >and has finally irritated me to the point of posting this stupid message! > > > >For those of you who haven't a clue as to how to spell, for "definite", just > >think of the word "finite" and stick a bloody "de" in front of it. > > > >(Even the Wests can't spell it properly!) > > > >Rant over; go about your normal business. > > > >Bruce the Bellicose. > > > > > I am going back to college, and a couple of weeks ago, I was stunned > when in class one of my professors stated that no one would be > required to read out loud in class, due to the fact that numerous > students couldn't read. WTH??????? This was a Junior level class, > WTH are the teachers teaching these kids? Yet, it suddenly dawns on > me, most of these people post on usenet. LOL
That would be funny if it were not probably true! Just you wait, the next generation will not only not know how to spell because of just using a spell checker, but they will also be a lot worse when it comes to handwriting, due to everything being typed all the time. Its already pretty bad. It gives me a headache reading all these sentences with things like "where r u? / can u c me b4 I go?" etc
Goy Larsen 12 Sep 2003 21:34 UTC↳ reply to Sue#54606
Sue wrote:
Quoted text (19 lines)> > "Colin Harris" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:wsq8b.82$[email hidden]... > > > > "Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > I can only conclude that they can't read or are > > > actually out steeling empty boxes > > > > > > > > > Beers and cheers > > > (uncle) Goy > > > "goyl at nettx dot no" > > > > > > > > Steeling, Uncle? :-) > > > LOL! great minds think alike :-))
You haven't been around "Bomber" much have you ? Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--
"Sue" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:nDq8b.64$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (9 lines)> > "Usenetter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:bjsa9i$57f$[email hidden]... > > > Tell you what REALLY gets up my nose - adding an s after an apostrophe > > .... > > > Jesus's, Simmonds's ..... <AAAARGH!> drives me nuts. > > This one depends on the context. > Example: > John is coming to see me is correct as "John's coming to see me." But
"John's car" would actually mean John is car, which is > wrong of course >Eh? "John's car is broken." I have never seen anyone write "John's car", wanting to mean "John is car". No one makes that mistake. You'll see stuff like "The team's are coming onto the field" or "The teams mascot did a flip". But you'll never see "John's car", with the writer intending "John is car". No one thinks "John is car" is a sentence. The writer knows instinctively that a descriptive word goes in that "predicate adjective" slot. Alanb
A similar situation occurred here (Oz) in the 1970's, when the education departments of various states dropped all emphasis on spelling as a basic requirement in all levels of the English curriculum in primary schools. It was considered more important that the child be allowed to freely express him/herself without worrying about the constraints of conventional spelling. Fine in theory - disaster in practise. The child left high-school and came up against a class of people for whom correct spelling was a simple fact of life: the older employer who had a traditional, conventional education. Between 1984 and 1993 I employed at least two new apprentices (Electrician) each year and, as part of the process, I would receive upwards of thirty applications. We couldn't employ that many and neither could we interview them all, so we had to reduce the field to something workable. The very first level of the weeding-out process was to reject any letters of application which contained more than three spelling errors of common words, which usually reduced the number by at least half. I will always remember that, in 1987, if I had stuck to this system, *ALL* applications would have been rejected! Bruce. "Usenetter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:bjsbbv$1ac$[email hidden]... > Then you should have watched "That'll teach them" - a UK reality TV show
"Thieving" "Pinching" "Knocking-off" Some alternatives for you, Goy old mate. :) Bruce. "Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... >
WillyB4120 12 Sep 2003 22:47 UTC#54620
The ones that drive me crazy: people using "there" for "they're". Or sometimes "their". Similar to using "your" for "you're". Bill
Here's another common one: alot (or even allot!) instead of a lot. Tsk. Tsk. Bye, Leo "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> schreef in bericht news:[email hidden]... > Jeez! > The number of people who stuff-up the spelling of this word is incredible > and has finally irritated me to the point of posting this stupid message! > > For those of you who haven't a clue as to how to spell, for "definite",just
Quoted text (9 lines)> think of the word "finite" and stick a bloody "de" in front of it. > > (Even the Wests can't spell it properly!) > > Rant over; go about your normal business. > > Bruce the Bellicose. > >
You're definately right, Bruce! ;) > Jeez! > The number of people who stuff-up the spelling of this word is incredible > and has finally irritated me to the point of posting this stupid message! > > For those of you who haven't a clue as to how to spell, for "definite",just
Quoted text (9 lines)> think of the word "finite" and stick a bloody "de" in front of it. > > (Even the Wests can't spell it properly!) > > Rant over; go about your normal business. > > Bruce the Bellicose. > >
NEEEEERRRDDD! Mike http://mikebeauchamp.com "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Jeez! > The number of people who stuff-up the spelling of this word is incredible > and has finally irritated me to the point of posting this stupid message! > > For those of you who haven't a clue as to how to spell, for "definite",just
Quoted text (9 lines)> think of the word "finite" and stick a bloody "de" in front of it. > > (Even the Wests can't spell it properly!) > > Rant over; go about your normal business. > > Bruce the Bellicose. > >
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003, Sue wrote: > > George Adams wrote: > > > > > > How about "noone" instead of "no one"? > > > > <blush> > lol I guess it takes one to know one? <ducking>
Sue 13 Sep 2003 00:53 UTC↳ reply to Goy Larsen#54634
"Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (19 lines)> > > Sue wrote: > > > > "Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > > Usenetter wrote: > > > > > > > > Tell you what REALLY gets up my nose - adding an s after an apostrophe .... > > > > Jesus's, Simmonds's ..... <AAAARGH!> drives me nuts. > > > > > > How about websight ? > > > > > > I like this thread :-) > > :-) Goy your (not you're!) spelling is better than a lot who have English as their FIRST language > > > Yeah, but apparently I can't spell steal......
ROTFL, well I hadn't sen that part when I posted this ;-)
"Alan Bernardo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:%ar8b.426797$Ho3.68278@sccrnsc03...
Quoted text (27 lines)> > "Sue" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:nDq8b.64$[email hidden]... > > > "Usenetter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:bjsa9i$57f$[email hidden]... > > > > Tell you what REALLY gets up my nose - adding an s after an apostrophe > > > .... > > > > Jesus's, Simmonds's ..... <AAAARGH!> drives me nuts. > > > > This one depends on the context. > > Example: > > John is coming to see me is correct as "John's coming to see me." But > "John's car" would actually mean John is car, which is > > wrong of course > > > Eh? "John's car is broken." > > I have never seen anyone write "John's car", wanting to mean "John is car". > No one makes that mistake. > > You'll see stuff like "The team's are coming onto the field" or "The teams > mascot did a flip". But you'll never see "John's car", with the writer > intending "John is car". No one thinks "John is car" is a sentence. The > writer knows instinctively that a descriptive word goes in that "predicate > adjective" slot. > > Alanb
as you say, they will realise John is car is wrong. Yet people will write "john's car" and not realise that that is what they are actually saying without meaning to. In your example : The team's coming onto the field, in effect is saying "the team is are coming onto the field"
"Sue" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:PWt8b.1005$[email hidden]... > > "Alan Bernardo" <[email hidden]> wrote in messagenews:%ar8b.426797$Ho3.68278@sccrnsc03... > > > > "Sue" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:nDq8b.64$[email hidden]... > > > > "Usenetter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:bjsa9i$57f$[email hidden]... > > > > > Tell you what REALLY gets up my nose - adding an s after anapostrophe
Quoted text (12 lines)> > > > .... > > > > > Jesus's, Simmonds's ..... <AAAARGH!> drives me nuts. > > > > > > This one depends on the context. > > > Example: > > > John is coming to see me is correct as "John's coming to see me." But > > "John's car" would actually mean John is car, which is > > > wrong of course > > > > > Eh? "John's car is broken." > > > > I have never seen anyone write "John's car", wanting to mean "John is
car". > > No one makes that mistake. > > > > You'll see stuff like "The team's are coming onto the field" or "Theteams > > mascot did a flip". But you'll never see "John's car", with the writer > > intending "John is car". No one thinks "John is car" is a sentence.The > > writer knows instinctively that a descriptive word goes in that"predicate > > adjective" slot. > > > > Alanb > > as you say, they will realise John is car is wrong. Yet people will write"john's car" and not realise that that is what they > are actually saying without meaning to. > In your example : The team's coming onto the field, in effect is saying"the team is are coming onto the field" > Excuse me? Eh? You have just lost me with your logic there Sue. Dags (Ex-English Teacher) :-)
Tim Miser 13 Sep 2003 01:20 UTC↳ reply to RM#54448
I met a girl the other day that had a t-shirt on that said, "Born too lose." I know, I should of asked.... ;) -Tim "RM" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:0gg8b.4158588$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (15 lines)> Now no one knows the diff between "loose" and "lose". This is easily the > most common mistake I see. > > > "Aidee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:bjs2pk$eso$[email hidden]... > > The most common spelling error when i was at school....it still bugs me > now > > when i see it wrong lol > > > > AD > > > > > >
> In your example : The team's coming onto the field, in effect is saying"the team is are coming onto the field" >Yes, but students don't take it that way. They just don't understand the possessive and as such tend to over-possess. It actually comes down to an image thing: you have to picture the noun actually handling what it is possessing. Once you can do this imaging, possessives are no longer a problem. Alanb
"Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (21 lines)> > > Bruce Kennewell wrote: > > > > "Thieving" > > "Pinching" > > "Knocking-off" > > > > Some alternatives for you, Goy old mate. :) > > Thx :-) > > > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy > "goyl at nettx dot no" > > http://www.theuspits.com > > "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" > --Groucho Marx--
Man standing on toilet is high on pot. :) Alanb
JTBurn 13 Sep 2003 01:42 UTC↳ reply to Dave#54457
Yes, I make that mistake alot :>) "Dave" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:1Uh8b.82717$[email hidden]... > In article <_nh8b.51607$[email hidden]>, "elrikk"<[email hidden]> wrote: > > > >"RM" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >news:0gg8b.4158588$[email hidden]... > >> Now no one knows the diff between "loose" and "lose". This is easilythe > >> most common mistake I see. > >> > >> > >> "Aidee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >> news:bjs2pk$eso$[email hidden]... > >> > The most common spelling error when i was at school....it still bugsme
Quoted text (13 lines)> >> now > >> > when i see it wrong lol > >> > > >> > AD > > > > > >I beg to differ. The most common error is not "loose"/"lose" its > >"its"/"it's". ;o) > > No _your_ wrong! :-) > > ["You're" and "your" certainly qualify for this enumeration of > spelling transgressions]
Sue, what are you doing with Chinese coins? :) Bruce. "Sue" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:xUt8b.1004$[email hidden]... > > ROTFL, well I hadn't sen that part...........
That's another thing that gets on my wick: "should OF" instead of "should HAVE" - and any other similar combination ("must of", for example). Bruce. "Tim Miser" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I know, I should of asked....
Why?? Because I consider chronic misspelling to be a sign of laziness? Well, if that classifies me as a "nerd", fair enough. What's your excuse? Bruce. "Mike Beauchamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > NEEEEERRRDDD!
>From: "Tim Miser" >I met a girl the other day that had a t-shirt on that said, "Born too lose." Maybe meant "Born too loose" {;-) George Adams "All good fishermen stay young until they die, for fishing is the only dream of youth that doth not grow stale with age." ---- J.W Muller
"Tim Miser" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I met a girl the other day that had a t-shirt on that said, "Born toolose." > > I know, I should of asked.... > ;) > > > -Tim Is is ok to use "that" that way (when referring to people) ? ie. Instead of "I met a girl the other day who had a . . . " Just asking. Elrikk ;o)
Conventional wisdom has it that the personal pronoun "who" is used - i.e., when referring to a human, use "who", when referring to any other object, use "that". However, the use of "that" in these circumstances has become more widespread. Any wordsmith worth his/her salt uses the former method. Bruce. "elrikk" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:%5w8b.80133$[email hidden]... > > > Is is ok to use "that" that way (when referring to people) ? > > ie. Instead of "I met a girl the other day who had a . . . " >
Bruce Kennewell wrote: > The number of people who stuff-up the spelling of this word is incredible Yeah, I wondered many a time about this as well. Funnily enough, it seems it's mainly the Anglo-Saxon speaking peeps who zpel it rong. Regards, Rudy
"Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3f62adcb$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (17 lines)> Conventional wisdom has it that the personal pronoun "who" is used - i.e., > when referring to a human, use "who", when referring to any other object, > use "that". > However, the use of "that" in these circumstances has become more > widespread. > > Any wordsmith worth his/her salt uses the former method. > > Bruce. > > "elrikk" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:%5w8b.80133$[email hidden]... > > > > > > Is is ok to use "that" that way (when referring to people) ? > > > > ie. Instead of "I met a girl the other day who had a . . . "
Must be my 1950 - late 60's education rearing its picky head again. ;o) Elrikk
"Sue" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:nDq8b.64$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (9 lines)> > "Usenetter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:bjsa9i$57f$[email hidden]... > > > Tell you what REALLY gets up my nose - adding an s after an apostrophe > > .... > > > Jesus's, Simmonds's ..... <AAAARGH!> drives me nuts. > > This one depends on the context. > Example: > John is coming to see me is correct as "John's coming to see me." But
"John's car" would actually mean John is car, which is > wrong of course > >No, I don't think you are correct - the 'poss ess' there is short for 'his' or 'hers'. It's therefore "John his car", which became "John's car". (Or so I've always believed).
Agreed - Top posting is awful :-P Seriously, though, 'should of/have' is, indeed, almost as bad as 'lose/loose' "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (11 lines)> That's another thing that gets on my wick: "should OF" instead of "should > HAVE" - and any other similar combination ("must of", for example). > > Bruce. > > "Tim Miser" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > I know, I should of asked.... > > >
Bruce Kennewell wrote:
Quoted text (8 lines)> What's the "OOBI", Gerry? > > Bruce. > > "Gerry Aitken" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > >>Do you work for the OOBI?
Hehe, never mind. Readers of Viz will uderstand! ;) -- Gerry Aitken ...and a friend shall lose a friend's hammer -- Book of Cyril, chapter 6, verse 16
Then in that case we both fall into that same picky - yet educated - group, Elrikk. :) Bruce "elrikk" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9Ky8b.84300$[email hidden]... > Must be my 1950 - late 60's education rearing its picky head again. ;o) > > Elrikk
Joachim Trensz wrote: > I remember him, and now, he doesn't play FB with us anymore. I guess he's > allways busy <g> Definately. <G> -- Gerry Aitken ...and a friend shall lose a friend's hammer -- Book of Cyril, chapter 6, verse 16
Yep......because they've never been taught to spell correctly, whereas you aliens :) are taught not only the grammar but also the spelling. Bruce. "Ruud Dingemans" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:bjubu1$7om$[email hidden]... > Yeah, I wondered many a time about this as well. Funnily enough, it > seems it's mainly the Anglo-Saxon speaking peeps who zpel it rong.
Leo Landman wrote: > Here's another common one: alot (or even allot!) instead of a lot. > Tsk. Tsk. And 'antidissestablishmentaryanism' is another common one. -- Gerry Aitken ...and a friend shall lose a friend's hammer -- Book of Cyril, chapter 6, verse 16
"Colin Harris" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:OVy8b.3679$[email hidden]... > Agreed - Top posting is awful :-P Yeah, but great if your client is Outlook Express - both for read and write. > > Seriously, though, 'should of/have' is, indeed, almost as bad as > 'lose/loose' ALMOST ?? Grammatical errors look dumb, are dumb - and in relation to spelling errors, are heinous outrages. Spelling errors are relatively inocuous. > > "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > That's another thing that gets on my wick: "should OF" instead of"should
Quoted text (12 lines)> > HAVE" - and any other similar combination ("must of", for example). > > > > Bruce. > > > > "Tim Miser" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > I know, I should of asked.... > > > > > > > >
Ahh! I see; it's an "in joke", the butt of which must be kept ignorant of the meaning if he isn't part of the clique. Just like fifth form at school, eh Gerry? Bruce. "Gerry Aitken" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Hehe, never mind. Readers of Viz will uderstand! ;) >
Bruce Kennewell wrote: > Ahh! I see; it's an "in joke", the butt of which must be kept ignorant of > the meaning if he isn't part of the clique. > > Just like fifth form at school, eh Gerry? Well, at first I thought you would think it was funny, and I was going to tell you. But on reflection, I decided you wouldn't, so i didn't. In terms of a verbal conversation, it's a 'never mind, forget it' type of thing. Right, I'm off to the tuck shop to get some wagon wheels! -- Gerry Aitken ...and a friend shall lose a friend's hammer -- Book of Cyril, chapter 6, verse 16
"Gerry Aitken" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Bruce Kennewell wrote: > > Ahh! I see; it's an "in joke", the butt of which must be kept ignorantof
Quoted text (11 lines)> > the meaning if he isn't part of the clique. > > > > Just like fifth form at school, eh Gerry? > > > Well, at first I thought you would think it was funny, and I was going > to tell you. But on reflection, I decided you wouldn't, so i didn't. > In terms of a verbal conversation, it's a 'never mind, forget it' type > of thing. > > Right, I'm off to the tuck shop to get some wagon wheels!
Mmmmm .... Wagon Wheels
Quoted text (8 lines)> > -- > > Gerry Aitken > > ...and a friend shall lose a friend's hammer -- Book of Cyril, chapter > 6, verse 16 >
DerekR 14 Sep 2003 15:12 UTC↳ reply to Sue#293709
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 21:10:43 GMT, "Sue" <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (11 lines)>> "Usenetter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:bjsa9i$57f$[email hidden]... >> > Tell you what REALLY gets up my nose - adding an s after an apostrophe >> .... >> > Jesus's, Simmonds's ..... <AAAARGH!> drives me nuts. > >This one depends on the context. >Example: >John is coming to see me is correct as "John's coming to see me." But "John's car" would actually mean John is car, which is >wrong of course >
No it doesn't, in the above example the apostrophe is used to denote possession i.e John's car = the car belonging to John. See http://www.apostrophe.fsnet.co.uk/ -- DerekR, Edinburgh, Scotland (don't use 'reply to' address, it's dead. Use my name in front of @blueyonder.co.uk)
In article <7ig8b.15957$[email hidden]>, "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> writes: >I'll try to keep it in mind (for I know I have most *definitely* sinned). > But since English is not your first language, you're given a bit of leeway... Eldred -- .sig file is at the cleaners... Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank -2.4 N2k3 rank ? Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
"DerekR" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (7 lines)> On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 18:29:20 +1000, "Bruce Kennewell" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Rant over; go about your normal business. > > Not quite, another one which also annoys me is "I keep my socks in a > draw", no you don't, you keep them in a DRAWER.
And where do you keep your drawers ?
Quoted text (13 lines)> > See also: > > lose/loose > quiet/quite > > ...and many more I can't think of right now. > > -- > DerekR, > Edinburgh, Scotland > (don't use 'reply to' address, it's dead. > Use my name in front of @blueyonder.co.uk)
In article <_nh8b.51607$[email hidden]>, elrikk <[email hidden]> writes
Quoted text (25 lines)> >"RM" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:0gg8b.4158588$[email hidden]... >> Now no one knows the diff between "loose" and "lose". This is easily the >> most common mistake I see. >> >> >> "Aidee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:bjs2pk$eso$[email hidden]... >> > The most common spelling error when i was at school....it still bugs me >> now >> > when i see it wrong lol >> > >> > AD > > >I beg to differ. The most common error is not "loose"/"lose" its >"its"/"it's". ;o) > > >Elrikk > >PS. Yeah, I know it's "it's". > >
Unless it's possessive, in which case it's its. :) -- Peter Ives (AKA Pete Ivington) Remove ALL_STRESS before replying via email If you know what's good for you, don't listen to me :) GPLRank Joystick -50.63 Wheel -21.77
Wow, a breathing, pulsating spell checker :) What will they think of next? Larry "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Jeez! > The number of people who stuff-up the spelling of this word is incredible > and has finally irritated me to the point of posting this stupid message! > > For those of you who haven't a clue as to how to spell, for "definite",just
Quoted text (9 lines)> think of the word "finite" and stick a bloody "de" in front of it. > > (Even the Wests can't spell it properly!) > > Rant over; go about your normal business. > > Bruce the Bellicose. > >
Larry 15 Sep 2003 05:26 UTC↳ reply to RM#54260
All I can say is, in my race at Loudon Saturday my car was definately not lose. Larry "RM" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:0gg8b.4158588$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (15 lines)> Now no one knows the diff between "loose" and "lose". This is easily the > most common mistake I see. > > > "Aidee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:bjs2pk$eso$[email hidden]... > > The most common spelling error when i was at school....it still bugs me > now > > when i see it wrong lol > > > > AD > > > > > >
" i've got..." is the most annoying example of bad english I see/hear. So commonplace it's pervaded all forms of media. On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 18:29:20 +1000, "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (13 lines)>Jeez! >The number of people who stuff-up the spelling of this word is incredible >and has finally irritated me to the point of posting this stupid message! > >For those of you who haven't a clue as to how to spell, for "definite", just >think of the word "finite" and stick a bloody "de" in front of it. > >(Even the Wests can't spell it properly!) > >Rant over; go about your normal business. > >Bruce the Bellicose. >
"George Adams" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > >From: "Tim Miser" > > >I met a girl the other day that had a t-shirt on that said, "Born toolose." > > Maybe meant "Born too loose" {;-) Thank you George. At least SOMEBODY got the joke! ;) -Tim
"Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > That's another thing that gets on my wick: "should OF" instead of "should > HAVE" - and any other similar combination ("must of", for example). > > Bruce. Now wait just a dog-gone minute! Spelling errors are one thing but grammar corrections in a forum like this are rude and just plain wrong! This is a computer game entertainment forum which means, and I can only speak for myself; casual conversation and grammar applies. We are not here writing business letters, we are only conveying the words and language we use in our normal (casual) speech which also conveyes our personalities in our words and grammar. For example, I speak differently when I am at work speaking in a business meeting or writing a business letter than I do when I'm with the guys talking computer games. If I were to tell you this joke in person and verbally said, "I should of asked." You would not sit there and correct my grammar now would you? We are with 'the guys' here now so if you want to correct my "should of" with a "should have" I'll pour my virtual beer on your head and send you back to the Xbox kids! ;) Stay cool man! -Tim
Tough. As far as *I'm* concerned, the same rules of grammar are used 100% of the time; I don't have one set of grammar for casual conversation and another for official occasions! Sloppy grammar is just as bad as sloppy spelling and denotes either laziness or ignorance or both. Bruce. "Tim Miser" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > Now wait just a dog-gone minute! Spelling errors are one thing butgrammar > corrections in a forum like this are rude and just plain wrong!
"Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:[email hidden]:
Quoted text (9 lines)> Tough. > As far as *I'm* concerned, the same rules of grammar are used 100% of > the time; I don't have one set of grammar for casual conversation and > another for official occasions! > > Sloppy grammar is just as bad as sloppy spelling and denotes either > laziness or ignorance or both. > > Bruce.
I do. I could give a hoot if I am correct by the rules. I USUALLY get my point across. The more rules the teachers piled on in school, the less I paid attention. English and math, two very rule-ruled, classes were not my best subjects. dh
"Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Tough. > As far as *I'm* concerned, the same rules of grammar are used 100% of the > time; I don't have one set of grammar for casual conversation and another > for official occasions! > > Sloppy grammar is just as bad as sloppy spelling and denotes eitherlaziness
Quoted text (10 lines)> or ignorance or both. > > Bruce. > > "Tim Miser" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > > Now wait just a dog-gone minute! Spelling errors are one thing but > grammar > > corrections in a forum like this are rude and just plain wrong!
That is something up with which I shall not put. W.C. ;o) There are other things it could denote but they all involve a modicum of insight into the general human condition. One could perchance take some situations with a tad more lightness. Elrikk
OK fine, I'm leaving this thread of geeks and moving to a new thread with cool people. You are all a bunch of hypocrites since you are posting this in rec.autos.simulator. Shouldn't it be rec.auto.simulators?? Freekin Geeks! -Tim "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Tough. > As far as *I'm* concerned, the same rules of grammar are used 100% of the > time; I don't have one set of grammar for casual conversation and another > for official occasions! > > Sloppy grammar is just as bad as sloppy spelling and denotes eitherlaziness
Quoted text (12 lines)> or ignorance or both. > > Bruce. > > "Tim Miser" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > > Now wait just a dog-gone minute! Spelling errors are one thing but > grammar > > corrections in a forum like this are rude and just plain wrong! > >
Maths very rule-ruled??? Jeezuz, Dave, I should bloody-well hope so.m If it weren't we;d all be in strife! If there is one subject which must rely on rules it's mathematics, mate! :) Casual maths:- "Two plus two equals anything between three and five". Sure - that'd REALLY work!! :) (I wonder if the blokes who put together the data for the Mars mission - the one which had the screwed-up distances - used "Casual Mathematics"?!) Bruce. "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > English and math, two very rule-ruled, classes were not my bestsubjects.
Well, if you want to be pedantic, perhaps it should be "recreations.automobiles.simulations", n'est pas? Bruce. "Tim Miser" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Bpx9b.362665$cF.108505@rwcrnsc53... >rec.autos.simulator. Shouldn't it be rec.auto.simulators?? Freekin Geeks!
If >I< want to be pedantic??? Puleeez!! -Tim "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3f66ad8a$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (8 lines)> Well, if you want to be pedantic, perhaps it should be > "recreations.automobiles.simulations", n'est pas? > > Bruce. > > "Tim Miser" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Bpx9b.362665$cF.108505@rwcrnsc53... > >rec.autos.simulator. Shouldn't it be rec.auto.simulators?? Freekin
Geeks! > > >
I'm simply inviting you into the water, Tim. :) Bruce. "Tim Miser" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:%xA9b.270670$[email hidden]... > If >I< want to be pedantic??? Puleeez!!
"Tim Miser" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:%xA9b.270670$[email hidden]... > If >I< want to be pedantic??? Puleeez!! LOL but "please" watch that spelling. ;o) Elrikk
Quoted text (9 lines)> -Tim > > > "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:3f66ad8a$[email hidden]... > > Well, if you want to be pedantic, perhaps it should be > > "recreations.automobiles.simulations", n'est pas? > > > > Bruce.
"Bruce Kennewell"
Quoted text (9 lines)> Casual maths:- "Two plus two equals anything between three and five". > > Sure - that'd REALLY work!! :) > > (I wonder if the blokes who put together the data for the Mars mission > - the one which had the screwed-up distances - used "Casual > Mathematics"?!) > > Bruce.
Thats why we have scientists Bruce. I let THEM pay attention for me. :) apparently some paid attention to teachers with Foreign accents.... dave
"Tim Miser" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > That's another thing that gets on my wick: "should OF" instead of"should > > HAVE" - and any other similar combination ("must of", for example). > > > > Bruce. > > Now wait just a dog-gone minute! Spelling errors are one thing butgrammar > corrections in a forum like this are rude and just plain wrong! This is a > computer game entertainment forum which means, and I can only speak for > myself; casual conversation and grammar applies. We are not here writing > business letters, we are only conveying the words and language we use inour > normal (casual) speech which also conveyes our personalities in our words > and grammar. For example, I speak differently when I am at work speakingin > a business meeting or writing a business letter than I do when I'm withthe > guys talking computer games. > > If I were to tell you this joke in person and verbally said, "I should of > asked." You would not sit there and correct my grammar now would you? Indeed not. But you are still wrong. The fact is that we only correct childrens' spoken language, but when grammatical errors are committed in the written word - it just looks ignorant and begs correction. Sorry to seem pedantically churlish, but I think you'll find a written grammatical mistake is most definitely NOT in the same error category as a spoken one.
Quoted text (11 lines)> > We are with 'the guys' here now so if you want to correct my "should of" > with a "should have" I'll pour my virtual beer on your head and send you > back to the Xbox kids! ;) > > Stay cool man! > > -Tim > > >
"Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Maths very rule-ruled??? > Jeezuz, Dave, I should bloody-well hope so.m If it weren't we;d all be in > strife! > If there is one subject which must rely on rules it's mathematics, mate!:) > > Casual maths:- "Two plus two equals anything between three and five". > > Sure - that'd REALLY work!! :) > > (I wonder if the blokes who put together the data for the Mars mission -the > one which had the screwed-up distances - used "Casual Mathematics"?!) LOL. Class response.
Quoted text (10 lines)> > Bruce. > > > "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > English and math, two very rule-ruled, classes were not my best > subjects. > >
Von Gibbling 16 Sep 2003 15:05 UTC#531188
LOL. Class response.
Quoted text (7 lines)> Bruce. > > English and math, two very rule-ruled, classes were not my best > subjects.
"Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (13 lines)> "Bruce Kennewell" > > > Casual maths:- "Two plus two equals anything between three and five". > > > > Sure - that'd REALLY work!! :) > > > > (I wonder if the blokes who put together the data for the Mars mission > > - the one which had the screwed-up distances - used "Casual > > Mathematics"?!) > > > > Bruce. > > Thats why we have scientists Bruce. I let THEM pay attention for me.
But you make yourself sound so freaking dumb ! "I let others do my thinking for me" sorta thing. > :) > apparently some paid attention to teachers with Foreign accents.... > dave >
Actually, geeks tend to have poor language skills - which are a sub-set of social skills. Keep working on it, though - sooner or later, you're bound to get something right. "Tim Miser" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Bpx9b.362665$cF.108505@rwcrnsc53... > OK fine, I'm leaving this thread of geeks and moving to a new thread with > cool people. > > You are all a bunch of hypocrites since you are posting this in > rec.autos.simulator. Shouldn't it be rec.auto.simulators?? FreekinGeeks!
Quoted text (8 lines)> > -Tim > > > "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Tough. > > As far as *I'm* concerned, the same rules of grammar are used 100% of
the > > time; I don't have one set of grammar for casual conversation andanother
Quoted text (18 lines)> > for official occasions! > > > > Sloppy grammar is just as bad as sloppy spelling and denotes either > laziness > > or ignorance or both. > > > > Bruce. > > > > "Tim Miser" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > Now wait just a dog-gone minute! Spelling errors are one thing but > > grammar > > > corrections in a forum like this are rude and just plain wrong! > > > > > >
Bruce Kennewell wrote:
Quoted text (12 lines)> > Maths very rule-ruled??? > Jeezuz, Dave, I should bloody-well hope so.m If it weren't we;d all be in > strife! > If there is one subject which must rely on rules it's mathematics, mate! :) > > Casual maths:- "Two plus two equals anything between three and five". > > Sure - that'd REALLY work!! :) > > (I wonder if the blokes who put together the data for the Mars mission - the > one which had the screwed-up distances - used "Casual Mathematics"?!)
In the words of Monty Python.... And the Lord spake, saying, Thou shalt count to four, no more, no less. Four shalt be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be four. Five shalt thou not count, nor either count thou three, excepting that thou then proceed to four. Six is right out. Once the number four, being the fourth number, be reached, then shalt thou stop as this be the correct sum Obviously I'm not very good at this as I couldn't come up with a decent ending to it Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--
Usenetter wrote:
Quoted text (19 lines)> > "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > "Bruce Kennewell" > > > > > Casual maths:- "Two plus two equals anything between three and five". > > > > > > Sure - that'd REALLY work!! :) > > > > > > (I wonder if the blokes who put together the data for the Mars mission > > > - the one which had the screwed-up distances - used "Casual > > > Mathematics"?!) > > > > > > Bruce. > > > > Thats why we have scientists Bruce. I let THEM pay attention for me. > > But you make yourself sound so freaking dumb ! > "I let others do my thinking for me" sorta thing.
He has the same approach to sim racing, I'll let the other guys drive fast, at least Herr von Henrie is consistent Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--
Bruce Kennewell wrote: > Well, if you want to be pedantic, perhaps it should be > "recreations.automobiles.simulations", n'est pas? That should be "n'est-ce pas" Bruce ;) Regards, Rudy (GPLRank -8.5) BTW, if some native speaker writes 'should of' that definitely sounds strange - to say the least - to the rest of us who actually had to sit through English lessons since it wasn't our first language.
"Usenetter" > > But you make yourself sound so freaking dumb ! > "I let others do my thinking for me" sorta thing. > > Time is my enemy. I don't have time to sit and ponder the mysteries of the universe. So I let others do it for me...if that is dumb then I am. I still have to wade thru zillions of posts and billions and billions of threads before I get my 10 lap practice session in tonight at Malaysia for RasF1. (and Goy is wright...hehehe...I let other folks go fast too...) dh
HAAAA! Oh dear - I remember that so well, Goy! :) It appears that Python has an answer for everything, doesn't it? Except for The Meaning of Life, The Universe and Everything, which was supplied by Douglas Adams and is, as we all know, "Forty-two". Bruce. "Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > In the words of Monty Python.... >
Thank you, Ruud. It's a lo-o-ong time since I did French at school. :) And yes, I would imagine that "should of", etc., *would* appear strange to one whose first language is not English. Bruce. "Ruud Dingemans" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:bk7vlp$b6r$[email hidden]... > > > That should be "n'est-ce pas" Bruce ;) >
"Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3f67c7df$[email hidden]... > HAAAA! > Oh dear - I remember that so well, Goy! :) > > It appears that Python has an answer for everything, doesn't it? Exceptfor > The Meaning of Life, The Universe and Everything, which was supplied by > Douglas Adams and is, as we all know, "Forty-two". 42 is actually a cosmological constant (I think .... an Einsteinian 'fudge' factor compensating for the anomoly between theoretical and actual universe-expansion rate - if memory serves).
Quoted text (11 lines)> > Bruce. > > "Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > > In the words of Monty Python.... > > > > >
"Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:3f67c7df$[email hidden]:
Quoted text (9 lines)> HAAAA! > Oh dear - I remember that so well, Goy! :) > > It appears that Python has an answer for everything, doesn't it? > Except for The Meaning of Life, The Universe and Everything, which was > supplied by Douglas Adams and is, as we all know, "Forty-two". > > Bruce. >
RIP....I tried to esplain that answer to my wife...she didn't 'get' it. dave(who always travels with a towel)henrie
Bruce Kennewell wrote:
Quoted text (7 lines)> > HAAAA! > Oh dear - I remember that so well, Goy! :) > > It appears that Python has an answer for everything, doesn't it? Except for > The Meaning of Life, The Universe and Everything, which was supplied by > Douglas Adams and is, as we all know, "Forty-two".
At some point I must find the time to sit down with DA's books, I tried one of them quite a few years ago and it didn't "click" with me, however I saw a documentary about the man a short while ago and immediately I was like "how could I not like a book written by this man", his books are on my wish list for b-day and xmas :-) And yes, Monty Python do have the answer to almost everything, even how to enjoy a funeral... Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003, Goy Larsen wrote:
Quoted text (9 lines)> > It appears that Python has an answer for everything, doesn't it? Except for > > The Meaning of Life, The Universe and Everything, which was supplied by > > Douglas Adams and is, as we all know, "Forty-two". > > At some point I must find the time to sit down with DA's books, I tried > one of them quite a few years ago and it didn't "click" with me, however > I saw a documentary about the man a short while ago and immediately I > was like "how could I not like a book written by this man", his books > are on my wish list for b-day and xmas :-)
Douglas Adams' books are great, but the *best* version of the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is the original BBC Radiophonic Workshop radio play. The acting and sound effects are still awesome. Afaik, this was 12 episodes of a half-hour each. Not sure where to get them. There was a revised version available on cassette (a friend had some of them), but, imo it wasn't as good as the original--which was played on public radio in the USA, in the 1980's.
"Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (8 lines)> > > Bruce Kennewell wrote: > > > > HAAAA! > > Oh dear - I remember that so well, Goy! :) > > > > It appears that Python has an answer for everything, doesn't it? Except
for
Quoted text (8 lines)> > The Meaning of Life, The Universe and Everything, which was supplied by > > Douglas Adams and is, as we all know, "Forty-two". > > At some point I must find the time to sit down with DA's books, I tried > one of them quite a few years ago and it didn't "click" with me, however > I saw a documentary about the man a short while ago and immediately I > was like "how could I not like a book written by this man", his books > are on my wish list for b-day and xmas :-)
A great starting point would be "Last chance to see" - about DA's world tour of endangered species. Lovely to read as the man had such a benign and magnanamous SOH.
Quoted text (13 lines)> > And yes, Monty Python do have the answer to almost everything, even how > to enjoy a funeral... > > > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy > "goyl at nettx dot no" > > http://www.theuspits.com > > "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" > --Groucho Marx--
You can pick'em up off P2P. "Doug Milliken" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > On Wed, 17 Sep 2003, Goy Larsen wrote: > > > > It appears that Python has an answer for everything, doesn't it?Except for > > > The Meaning of Life, The Universe and Everything, which was suppliedby
Quoted text (13 lines)> > > Douglas Adams and is, as we all know, "Forty-two". > > > > At some point I must find the time to sit down with DA's books, I tried > > one of them quite a few years ago and it didn't "click" with me, however > > I saw a documentary about the man a short while ago and immediately I > > was like "how could I not like a book written by this man", his books > > are on my wish list for b-day and xmas :-) > > Douglas Adams' books are great, but the *best* version of the Hitchhiker's > Guide to the Galaxy is the original BBC Radiophonic Workshop radio play. > The acting and sound effects are still awesome. Afaik, this was 12 > episodes of a half-hour each. Not sure where to get them. There was a > revised version available on cassette (a friend had some of them), but,
imo > it wasn't as good as the original--which was played on public radio in the > USA, in the 1980's. >
Doug Milliken wrote:
Quoted text (20 lines)> > On Wed, 17 Sep 2003, Goy Larsen wrote: > > > > It appears that Python has an answer for everything, doesn't it? Except for > > > The Meaning of Life, The Universe and Everything, which was supplied by > > > Douglas Adams and is, as we all know, "Forty-two". > > > > At some point I must find the time to sit down with DA's books, I tried > > one of them quite a few years ago and it didn't "click" with me, however > > I saw a documentary about the man a short while ago and immediately I > > was like "how could I not like a book written by this man", his books > > are on my wish list for b-day and xmas :-) > > Douglas Adams' books are great, but the *best* version of the Hitchhiker's > Guide to the Galaxy is the original BBC Radiophonic Workshop radio play. > The acting and sound effects are still awesome. Afaik, this was 12 > episodes of a half-hour each. Not sure where to get them. There was a > revised version available on cassette (a friend had some of them), but, imo > it wasn't as good as the original--which was played on public radio in the > USA, in the 1980's.
Time to fire up WinMX again :-) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--
Goy Larsen <[email hidden]> wrote in
Quoted text (12 lines)> Time to fire up WinMX again :-) > > > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy > "goyl at nettx dot no" > > http://www.theuspits.com > > "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" > --Groucho Marx-- >
Won't the evil US Record companies try to sue you??? dave henrie
I completely concur. I just couldn't "get into" his books, but bought the set of CD's when they were re-released a couple of year's ago following DA's death. In my extremely humble opinion, listening to the radio series is the *best* way to enjoy the H-HGTTG. Goy, try Ebay. Regards, Bruce. "Doug Milliken" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > > Douglas Adams' books are great, but the *best* version of the Hitchhiker's > Guide to the Galaxy is the original BBC Radiophonic Workshop radio play.
"Von Gibbling" <[email hidden]> skrev i melding news:bkakf6$4n5$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (11 lines)> > "Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > Bruce Kennewell wrote: > > > > > > HAAAA! > > > Oh dear - I remember that so well, Goy! :) > > > > > > It appears that Python has an answer for everything, doesn't it?
Except > for > > > The Meaning of Life, The Universe and Everything, which was suppliedby
Quoted text (10 lines)> > > Douglas Adams and is, as we all know, "Forty-two". > > > > At some point I must find the time to sit down with DA's books, I tried > > one of them quite a few years ago and it didn't "click" with me, however > > I saw a documentary about the man a short while ago and immediately I > > was like "how could I not like a book written by this man", his books > > are on my wish list for b-day and xmas :-) > > > A great starting point would be "Last chance to see" - about DA's world
tour > of endangered species. > Lovely to read as the man had such a benign and magnanamous SOH. Actually - if you start appreciating his work, then get the lot! Unfortunately, there isn't really that much..sigh. What a shame he passed away so early. He was clearly not of this earth! I would recommend the two Dirk Gently books, and also the post-mortem "Salmon of doubt". Some great speeches and small notes there. Oh, and I have the original BBC TV production of THHGTTG on VHS. It absolutely rocks! Super low-budget, but hillarious. Almost perfect! /Matt
Dave Henrie wrote: > > Won't the evil US Record companies try to sue you??? For the time being, it's not illegal to DL music and movies from the internet for *personal* use in Norway, it's illegal to share those files with others again and it will soon be illegal to DL as well Simply put, the legal system hasn't caught up with the digital world we live in just yet and these laws are from the days when people such as myself would tape songs from the radio or a borrowed LP, so the clever people who make our laws decided that the artists needed some kind of compensation for this and put a fee on "recordable media", namely tapes, the proceeds was to be distributed among artists according to certain calculations There's no fee on CD's or DVD's btw as they were not around at the time these laws were passed :-), besides, no US lawyer in their right mind would come to Norway to sue someone, they'd freeze their butts off Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--
Goy Larsen besides, no US lawyer in their right mind
Quoted text (7 lines)> would come to Norway to sue someone, they'd freeze their butts off > > > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy > "goyl at nettx dot no" >
Well then you had better find yer own legal beagle...lawyers definately ain't in their right minds...
No worries. I hope that you are successful - you'll love it! :) "Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > I'm currently the high bidder :-), thx mate >
Bruce Kennewell wrote: > > No worries. > I hope that you are successful - you'll love it! :) It' mine I tell you !!! All mine !!! Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--
That's great, Goy. :) Bruce. "Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (18 lines)> > > Bruce Kennewell wrote: > > > > No worries. > > I hope that you are successful - you'll love it! :) > > It' mine I tell you !!! All mine !!! > > > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy > "goyl at nettx dot no" > > http://www.theuspits.com > > "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" > --Groucho Marx--

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