IndyCar Series - anyone playing it?

Just got this on the PC, quite impressed so far after a quick race at Phoenix and Nazareth. Terrible driver arms though - can you switch them off?! Physics seems pretty good, maybe the suspension movement is a bit exaggerated, but to my mind that's acceptable for a computer simulation. Doesn't seem as though many people are playing it though? Hope I don't have to do my own setups, haven't really got the patience to be a race engineer. Anyway, I found ICS worth the money and quite a nice diversion from my near-obsession with trying to complete a shift-R free lap of the Isle of Man:) One day... - Michael

On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 14:13:24 +0100, "MichaelJP" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Doesn't seem as though many people are playing it though? Hope I don't have >to do my own setups, haven't really got the patience to be a race engineer. Give me a day or two after the sim comes out and I'll post complete setups (in ascii, should require 2 lines per track) that will own the AI everywhere. Or the money you paid for this post back. Jason

On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 14:13:24 +0100, "MichaelJP" <[email hidden]> wrote: <snip> >Anyway, I found ICS worth the money and quite a nice diversion from my >near-obsession with trying to complete a shift-R free lap of the Isle of >Man:) One day... > >- Michael I gave it a brief try - but the steering felt so bad with my Momo that I gave up after 5 minutes. Also I know some C64 racing games which have a better drawn dashboard :-/ Andre

In article <3f65baee$0$33808$[email hidden]>, "MichaelJP" <[email hidden]> writes: >Just got this on the PC, quite impressed so far after a quick race at >Phoenix and Nazareth. Terrible driver arms though - can you switch them >off?! I tried the demo, and could NOT get it to recognize my TSW wheel and pedals correctly. In short, I couldn't drive the damn thing, so I'm not about to waste money on the retail. Too bad, because I was really looking forward to this one. Stupid calibration routines probably put more people off a game than anything else... :-( Eldred -- .sig file is at the cleaners... Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank -2.4 N2k3 rank ? Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Is it available in stores yet? "MichaelJP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3f65baee$0$33808$[email hidden]...

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> Just got this on the PC, quite impressed so far after a quick race at > Phoenix and Nazareth. Terrible driver arms though - can you switch them > off?! > > Physics seems pretty good, maybe the suspension movement is a bit > exaggerated, but to my mind that's acceptable for a computer simulation. > > Doesn't seem as though many people are playing it though? Hope I don't

have > to do my own setups, haven't really got the patience to be a raceengineer.

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> > Anyway, I found ICS worth the money and quite a nice diversion from my > near-obsession with trying to complete a shift-R free lap of the Isle of > Man:) One day... > > - Michael > >

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> In article <3f65baee$0$33808$[email hidden]>, "MichaelJP" > <[email hidden]> writes: > > >Just got this on the PC, quite impressed so far after a quick race at > >Phoenix and Nazareth. Terrible driver arms though - can you switch them > >off?! > > I tried the demo, and could NOT get it to recognize my TSW wheel and

pedals > correctly. In short, I couldn't drive the damn thing, so I'm not about to > waste money on the retail. Too bad, because I was really looking forwardto > this one. > Stupid calibration routines probably put more people off a game thananything > else... :-( > > Eldred I can't speak for the calibration routines, they worked OK for me - I'm using a joystick - but it might be worth trying the retail from somewhere you can take it back if you can't get it to work? - Michael

One question: Does it support multiple simultaneous controllers, like the EA and Papy sims? If so, I'll probably try it. MichaelJP wrote:

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> Just got this on the PC, quite impressed so far after a quick race at > Phoenix and Nazareth. Terrible driver arms though - can you switch them > off?! > > Physics seems pretty good, maybe the suspension movement is a bit > exaggerated, but to my mind that's acceptable for a computer simulation. > > Doesn't seem as though many people are playing it though? Hope I don't have > to do my own setups, haven't really got the patience to be a race engineer. > > Anyway, I found ICS worth the money and quite a nice diversion from my > near-obsession with trying to complete a shift-R free lap of the Isle of > Man:) One day... > > - Michael

One question: Does it support multiple simultaneous controllers, like the EA and Papy sims? If so, I'll probably try it.

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> Just got this on the PC, quite impressed so far after a quick race at > Phoenix and Nazareth. Terrible driver arms though - can you switch them > off?! > Physics seems pretty good, maybe the suspension movement is a bit > exaggerated, but to my mind that's acceptable for a computer simulation. > Doesn't seem as though many people are playing it though? Hope I don't have > to do my own setups, haven't really got the patience to be a race engineer. > Anyway, I found ICS worth the money and quite a nice diversion from my > near-obsession with trying to complete a shift-R free lap of the Isle of > Man:) One day... > - Michael

On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 17:50:57 -0400, BRH <"bertrh<no-spam>"@comcast.net> wrote: >One question: Does it support multiple simultaneous controllers, like the EA >and Papy sims? If so, I'll probably try it. The controller config is exactly the same at Rally Trophy. Jason

It recognises my Gravis Analogue Pro joystick perfectly, Eldred. :) Bruce. "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > I tried the demo, and could NOT get it to recognize my TSW wheel andpedals > correctly.

Calibration issues.How true.Why can't every game follow GPL or N2003 's routines -- Steve H "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <3f65baee$0$33808$[email hidden]>, "MichaelJP" > <[email hidden]> writes: > > >Just got this on the PC, quite impressed so far after a quick race at > >Phoenix and Nazareth. Terrible driver arms though - can you switch them > >off?! > > I tried the demo, and could NOT get it to recognize my TSW wheel and pedals > correctly. In short, I couldn't drive the damn thing, so I'm not about to > waste money on the retail. Too bad, because I was really looking forward to > this one. > Stupid calibration routines probably put more people off a game than anything > else... :-( > > Eldred > -- > .sig file is at the cleaners... > > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPLRank -2.4 > N2k3 rank ? > > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Yes it is. Even in Belgium <G> "Mike Grandy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:YLk9b.35112$[email hidden]...

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> Is it available in stores yet? > > "MichaelJP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:3f65baee$0$33808$[email hidden]... > > Just got this on the PC, quite impressed so far after a quick race at > > Phoenix and Nazareth. Terrible driver arms though - can you switch them > > off?! > > > > Physics seems pretty good, maybe the suspension movement is a bit > > exaggerated, but to my mind that's acceptable for a computer simulation. > > > > Doesn't seem as though many people are playing it though? Hope I don't > have > > to do my own setups, haven't really got the patience to be a race > engineer. > > > > Anyway, I found ICS worth the money and quite a nice diversion from my > > near-obsession with trying to complete a shift-R free lap of the Isle of > > Man:) One day... > > > > - Michael > > > > > >

"Trick Dacy" wrote... > Yes it is. Even in Belgium <G> Yeah, selling like crazy, apparently. Jan. ;-) =---

Well, I got it to work with RT, albeit with a bit of difficulty. Thanks, Jason. jason moyer wrote:

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> On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 17:50:57 -0400, BRH > <"bertrh<no-spam>"@comcast.net> wrote: > > >One question: Does it support multiple simultaneous controllers, like the EA > >and Papy sims? If so, I'll probably try it. > > The controller config is exactly the same at Rally Trophy. > > Jason

Well, I got it to work with RT, albeit with a bit of difficulty. Thanks, Jason.

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> On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 17:50:57 -0400, BRH > >One question: Does it support multiple simultaneous controllers, like the EA > >and Papy sims? If so, I'll probably try it. > The controller config is exactly the same at Rally Trophy. > Jason

In article <[email hidden]>, "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> writes: >It recognises my Gravis Analogue Pro joystick perfectly, Eldred. :) > <slaps Bruce with a trout> Wow - those still EXIST?!? I thought that was a GREAT joystick. When mine broke, I couldn't find a replacement, dammit. Eldred -- .sig file is at the cleaners... Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank -2.4 N2k3 rank ? Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <3f65e42b$0$33796$[email hidden]>, "MichaelJP" <[email hidden]> writes: >I can't speak for the calibration routines, they worked OK for me - I'm >using a joystick - but it might be worth trying the retail from somewhere >you can take it back if you can't get it to work? Do those places still exist? The last place I knew of that had a return policy(Electronics Boutique) eliminated it... :-( Eldred -- .sig file is at the cleaners... Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank -2.4 N2k3 rank ? Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

I think Best Buy still has a return policy. "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > Do those places still exist? The last place I knew of that had a return > policy(Electronics Boutique) eliminated it... :-( > > Eldred > -- > .sig file is at the cleaners... > > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPLRank -2.4 > N2k3 rank ? > > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <[email hidden]>, "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> writes: >I think Best Buy still has a return policy. Nope. "No returns on opened:Computer Software, DVD and VHS Videos, Video Gamnes and Music." Eldred -- .sig file is at the cleaners... Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank -2.4 N2k3 rank ? Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

I was lucky enough to be involved in running a computer games shop at the time these went out of production. When the shop closed down (1998) we still had several in stock. I was able to snaffle two of them :) Bruce. "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > Wow - those still EXIST?!? I thought that was a GREAT joystick. Whenmine > broke, I couldn't find a replacement, dammit.

Yes, I agree. I wasn't overly infatuated with the demo but today I bought the retail release and have tried it at two circuits - Indy (of course!) and Phoenix. I must admit to being quite pleased with it after being somewhat hesitant about outlaying AUS$90-00 for the package. Except for the lack of mirrors it scrubs up pretty nicely and is quite fun, with just the right amount of "physics" to offer a realism level that is challenging without being totally over-the-top. ICS really does bring back memories of what Papyrus' Indycar Racing used to be like, and that's no bad thing at all. Now - if we can just get Codemasters to give us rear-view mirrors............. :) Bruce. "MichaelJP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3f65baee$0$33808$[email hidden]... > Just got this on the PC, quite impressed so far after a quick race at > Phoenix and Nazareth. > Anyway, I found ICS worth the money and quite a nice diversion .......

"Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:[email hidden]: > > Now - if we can just get Codemasters to give us rear-view > mirrors............. :) > > Bruce. you might find a better experience at Indy with the Open WHeel mod that John Bodin and others put together for F1 C. dh

Where's that available from, Dave?? Bruce. "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote in > news:[email hidden]: > > you might find a better experience at Indy with the Open WHeel mod that > John Bodin and others put together for F1 C. >

"Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:[email hidden]: > Where's that available from, Dave?? > > Bruce. > I was afraid you'd ask...Someday I'll figure out a good bookeeping system that keeps track of what I've installed and where I got it.... (20 minutes later) ok, here's the link. http://www.game-connect.com/xrlow/ there are two mods here, the irl based cars and drivers and then lower down the page basically the same cars but with NAscar paint and drivers. dave henrie

On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 05:05:10 GMT, Dave Henrie <[email hidden]> wrote: > you might find a better experience at Indy with the Open WHeel mod that >John Bodin and others put together for F1 C. Have they fixed the problems with the AI not being able to exit or enter the pits without driving straight through the other cars? This happens at every oval I've either personally converted to F1C or downloaded from the ORL/XRL/etc sites. Jason

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> On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 05:05:10 GMT, Dave Henrie <[email hidden]> > wrote: > >> you might find a better experience at Indy with the Open WHeel mod >> that >>John Bodin and others put together for F1 C. > > Have they fixed the problems with the AI not being able to exit or > enter the pits without driving straight through the other cars? > > This happens at every oval I've either personally converted to F1C or > downloaded from the ORL/XRL/etc sites. > > Jason

I haven't messed with it enough to even know. However, I do know the original tracks uploaded with the XRL mod for 2k2 had aiw done by CJ, whose pretty good at that editing. I'll ask him what's up with it... dave henrie

On 15 Sep 2003 15:15:31 GMT, EldredP wrote: > Stupid calibration routines probably put more people off a game than anything > else... :-( Eldi, have you tried DX9 yet? Apparently it fixed the controller issues I was having with my TSW2 in all non-Papy titles. All the best, uwe -- mail replies to Uwe at schuerkamp dot de ( yahoo address is spambox) Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

On 20 Sep 2003 14:05:35 GMT, EldredP wrote: > > Wow - those still EXIST?!? I thought that was a GREAT joystick. When mine > broke, I couldn't find a replacement, dammit. Want one? I think I still have a spare in the cellar somewhere. uwe -- mail replies to Uwe at schuerkamp dot de ( yahoo address is spambox) Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

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>On 15 Sep 2003 15:15:31 GMT, EldredP wrote: > >> Stupid calibration routines probably put more people off a game than >anything >> else... :-( > >Eldi, have you tried DX9 yet? Apparently it fixed the controller >issues I was having with my TSW2 in all non-Papy titles.

I haven't tried it since my initial install That was before I had to rebuild my system. I loaded DX9 with F1c, I think. The initial disgust of the Indycar game meant it wasn't even on my radar anymore. So I'd have to find that big-ass demo file to download again... :-( Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Member Screamers Racing League IICC League GPLRank -2.4 MoGPL rank +302.38 ChallengeRank +54.48 MoC +743.77 Hist. +82.82 MoH in progress N2k3 rank:in progress Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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>On 20 Sep 2003 14:05:35 GMT, EldredP wrote: >> >> Wow - those still EXIST?!? I thought that was a GREAT joystick. When mine >> broke, I couldn't find a replacement, dammit. > >Want one? I think I still have a spare in the cellar somewhere. >

If you lived closer, maybe. The shipping on that would make it not worthwhile... Thanks anyway. Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Member Screamers Racing League IICC League GPLRank -2.4 MoGPL rank +302.38 ChallengeRank +54.48 MoC +743.77 Hist. +82.82 MoH in progress N2k3 rank:in progress Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.