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Racing back to the yellow

7 posts by 6 people · 19 Sep 2003 16:48 UTC - 19 Sep 2003 22:19 UTC

Mitch_A 19 Sep 2003 16:48 UTC#53884
In case anyone missed the news. ---------------------------------------------- DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. -- Rule procedure revisions that eliminate racing back to the yellow (caution) flag and modify pit road entry for the NASCAR Winston Cup Series, NASCAR Busch Series and NASCAR Craftsman Truck Series will go into effect beginning this weekend, NASCAR officials announced Thursday. The revisions will be in place for the NASCAR Winston Cup Series and NASCAR Busch Series races at Dover International Speedway and for the NASCAR Craftsman Truck Series event at California Speedway, all of which are being held this weekend. "We have monitored and continually discussed internally the situation regarding racing back to the yellow throughout the season, and have reached the conclusion that it is time for us to take this step," NASCAR President Mike Helton said. "We will eliminate the practice completely and no longer depend on the gentlemen's agreement by the drivers in an effort to further ensure the safety of the competitors." The new rule will not permit any passing once the caution flag is displayed. Other aspects of this procedure revision as well as the pit road entry modifications will be outlined to the NASCAR Winston Cup and NASCAR Busch Series competitors at a combined meeting scheduled for 10:30 a.m. ET Saturday in the garage area at Dover International Speedway. The Craftsman Truck Series will have the revisions outlined in their scheduled driver/crew chief meeting scheduled for 10:45 a.m. PT Saturday. NASCAR officials' decisions regarding these new procedures will not be subject to review or appeal. "We needed to find a better way to do it rather than racing back to the yellow, and the new procedures we are putting in place are the first step in the process," Helton said. "We will monitor and evaluate the new procedures and fine-tune them if needed as we move forward."
This should be a huge change in the sport. Mainly, it will be practically impossible to make up lap once you go a lap down even if the lap down car is a teammate. -Tim "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ArGab.2187$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (10 lines)> In case anyone missed the news. > ---------------------------------------------- > > DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. -- Rule procedure revisions that eliminate racing back > to the yellow (caution) flag and modify pit road entry for the NASCAR > Winston Cup Series, NASCAR Busch Series and NASCAR Craftsman Truck Series > will go into effect beginning this weekend, NASCAR officials announced > Thursday. > > The revisions will be in place for the NASCAR Winston Cup Series and
NASCAR > Busch Series races at Dover International Speedway and for the NASCAR > Craftsman Truck Series event at California Speedway, all of which arebeing > held this weekend. > > "We have monitored and continually discussed internally the situation > regarding racing back to the yellow throughout the season, and havereached
Quoted text (8 lines)> the conclusion that it is time for us to take this step," NASCAR President > Mike Helton said. > > "We will eliminate the practice completely and no longer depend on the > gentlemen's agreement by the drivers in an effort to further ensure the > safety of the competitors." > > The new rule will not permit any passing once the caution flag is
displayed.
Quoted text (13 lines)> Other aspects of this procedure revision as well as the pit road entry > modifications will be outlined to the NASCAR Winston Cup and NASCAR Busch > Series competitors at a combined meeting scheduled for 10:30 a.m. ET > Saturday in the garage area at Dover International Speedway. > > The Craftsman Truck Series will have the revisions outlined in their > scheduled driver/crew chief meeting scheduled for 10:45 a.m. PT Saturday. > > NASCAR officials' decisions regarding these new procedures will not be > subject to review or appeal. > > "We needed to find a better way to do it rather than racing back to the > yellow, and the new procedures we are putting in place are the first step
in > the process," Helton said. "We will monitor and evaluate the newprocedures > and fine-tune them if needed as we move forward." > > >
Biz 19 Sep 2003 19:31 UTC↳ reply to Tim Miser#53888
I think that lap vehicles will still be able to get their laps back using this new rule. All they have to do is make it only for lead lap cars.... "Tim Miser" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > This should be a huge change in the sport. Mainly, it will be practically > impossible to make up lap once you go a lap down even if the lap down caris
Quoted text (10 lines)> a teammate. > > -Tim > > "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:ArGab.2187$[email hidden]... > > In case anyone missed the news. > > ---------------------------------------------- > > > > DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. -- Rule procedure revisions that eliminate racing
back > > to the yellow (caution) flag and modify pit road entry for the NASCAR > > Winston Cup Series, NASCAR Busch Series and NASCAR Craftsman TruckSeries
Quoted text (14 lines)> > will go into effect beginning this weekend, NASCAR officials announced > > Thursday. > > > > The revisions will be in place for the NASCAR Winston Cup Series and > NASCAR > > Busch Series races at Dover International Speedway and for the NASCAR > > Craftsman Truck Series event at California Speedway, all of which are > being > > held this weekend. > > > > "We have monitored and continually discussed internally the situation > > regarding racing back to the yellow throughout the season, and have > reached > > the conclusion that it is time for us to take this step," NASCAR
President
Quoted text (10 lines)> > Mike Helton said. > > > > "We will eliminate the practice completely and no longer depend on the > > gentlemen's agreement by the drivers in an effort to further ensure the > > safety of the competitors." > > > > The new rule will not permit any passing once the caution flag is > displayed. > > Other aspects of this procedure revision as well as the pit road entry > > modifications will be outlined to the NASCAR Winston Cup and NASCAR
Busch > > Series competitors at a combined meeting scheduled for 10:30 a.m. ET > > Saturday in the garage area at Dover International Speedway. > > > > The Craftsman Truck Series will have the revisions outlined in their > > scheduled driver/crew chief meeting scheduled for 10:45 a.m. PTSaturday. > > > > NASCAR officials' decisions regarding these new procedures will not be > > subject to review or appeal. > > > > "We needed to find a better way to do it rather than racing back to the > > yellow, and the new procedures we are putting in place are the firststep
Quoted text (9 lines)> in > > the process," Helton said. "We will monitor and evaluate the new > procedures > > and fine-tune them if needed as we move forward." > > > > > > > >
jason moyer 19 Sep 2003 19:47 UTC↳ reply to Biz#53743
On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 19:31:26 GMT, "Biz" <[email hidden]> wrote: >I think that lap vehicles will still be able to get their laps back using >this new rule. All they have to do is make it only for lead lap cars.... Wasn't the car that almost hit Jarrett last Sunday off the lead lap? Jason
On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 12:28:59 -0700, "Tim Miser" <[email hidden]> wrote: >This should be a huge change in the sport. Mainly, it will be practically >impossible to make up lap once you go a lap down even if the lap down car is >a teammate. > >-Tim > While NASCAR purists might moan (and I don't really blame them), this should improve safety team response times. When I was at the Indy race, it took an ambulance about _5_ minutes to get to Dale Jarrett's crewmember (who got clipped by Dale when he tried to pit). What if the guy is laying there bleeding to death, and we got cars still zooming by at near race speeds even AFTER the leaders have crossed the S/F? It would kill some of the drama like in the '79 Daytona 500, but is a good call (even if the speed maniac inside me hates it)... John DiFool
Tim Miser 19 Sep 2003 21:33 UTC↳ reply to Biz#53749
OK, if that is correct then there really is not much change....just that the gentleman agreement is now an official rule. Only that doesn't solve the safety issue as we'll still have lap down cars screaming at high speed through accident scenes. -Tim "Biz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:iQIab.149490$[email hidden]... > I think that lap vehicles will still be able to get their laps back using > this new rule. All they have to do is make it only for lead lap cars.... > "Tim Miser" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > This should be a huge change in the sport. Mainly, it will bepractically > > impossible to make up lap once you go a lap down even if the lap downcar
Quoted text (34 lines)> is > > a teammate. > > > > -Tim > > > > "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:ArGab.2187$[email hidden]... > > > In case anyone missed the news. > > > ---------------------------------------------- > > > > > > DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. -- Rule procedure revisions that eliminate racing > back > > > to the yellow (caution) flag and modify pit road entry for the NASCAR > > > Winston Cup Series, NASCAR Busch Series and NASCAR Craftsman Truck > Series > > > will go into effect beginning this weekend, NASCAR officials announced > > > Thursday. > > > > > > The revisions will be in place for the NASCAR Winston Cup Series and > > NASCAR > > > Busch Series races at Dover International Speedway and for the NASCAR > > > Craftsman Truck Series event at California Speedway, all of which are > > being > > > held this weekend. > > > > > > "We have monitored and continually discussed internally the situation > > > regarding racing back to the yellow throughout the season, and have > > reached > > > the conclusion that it is time for us to take this step," NASCAR > President > > > Mike Helton said. > > > > > > "We will eliminate the practice completely and no longer depend on the > > > gentlemen's agreement by the drivers in an effort to further ensure
the
Quoted text (18 lines)> > > safety of the competitors." > > > > > > The new rule will not permit any passing once the caution flag is > > displayed. > > > Other aspects of this procedure revision as well as the pit road entry > > > modifications will be outlined to the NASCAR Winston Cup and NASCAR > Busch > > > Series competitors at a combined meeting scheduled for 10:30 a.m. ET > > > Saturday in the garage area at Dover International Speedway. > > > > > > The Craftsman Truck Series will have the revisions outlined in their > > > scheduled driver/crew chief meeting scheduled for 10:45 a.m. PT > Saturday. > > > > > > NASCAR officials' decisions regarding these new procedures will not be > > > subject to review or appeal. > > > > > > "We needed to find a better way to do it rather than racing back to
the
Quoted text (13 lines)> > > yellow, and the new procedures we are putting in place are the first > step > > in > > > the process," Helton said. "We will monitor and evaluate the new > > procedures > > > and fine-tune them if needed as we move forward." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Now we need a new patch :-) "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ArGab.2187$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (10 lines)> In case anyone missed the news. > ---------------------------------------------- > > DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. -- Rule procedure revisions that eliminate racing back > to the yellow (caution) flag and modify pit road entry for the NASCAR > Winston Cup Series, NASCAR Busch Series and NASCAR Craftsman Truck Series > will go into effect beginning this weekend, NASCAR officials announced > Thursday. > > The revisions will be in place for the NASCAR Winston Cup Series and
NASCAR > Busch Series races at Dover International Speedway and for the NASCAR > Craftsman Truck Series event at California Speedway, all of which arebeing > held this weekend. > > "We have monitored and continually discussed internally the situation > regarding racing back to the yellow throughout the season, and havereached
Quoted text (8 lines)> the conclusion that it is time for us to take this step," NASCAR President > Mike Helton said. > > "We will eliminate the practice completely and no longer depend on the > gentlemen's agreement by the drivers in an effort to further ensure the > safety of the competitors." > > The new rule will not permit any passing once the caution flag is
displayed.
Quoted text (13 lines)> Other aspects of this procedure revision as well as the pit road entry > modifications will be outlined to the NASCAR Winston Cup and NASCAR Busch > Series competitors at a combined meeting scheduled for 10:30 a.m. ET > Saturday in the garage area at Dover International Speedway. > > The Craftsman Truck Series will have the revisions outlined in their > scheduled driver/crew chief meeting scheduled for 10:45 a.m. PT Saturday. > > NASCAR officials' decisions regarding these new procedures will not be > subject to review or appeal. > > "We needed to find a better way to do it rather than racing back to the > yellow, and the new procedures we are putting in place are the first step
in > the process," Helton said. "We will monitor and evaluate the newprocedures > and fine-tune them if needed as we move forward." > > >

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