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ATI Graphic problems(ati9800)

9 posts by 3 people · 21 Sep 2003 03:52 UTC - 24 Sep 2003 16:15 UTC

Dave Henrie 21 Sep 2003 03:52 UTC#53810
I've seen others post about this, but most of the problems seem to solve themselves. Here is what I get. With either of the EA F1 sims, the cars will display poorly. Missing textures or missing poly's make big holes in the car or textures tear and look like crossbars stretched from the airbox to the nose. None of this causes a performance problem, and thankfully, from the cockpit view there seem to be no big errors. But the replays of the F1 cars or outside views are all littered with these missing polygons. Now here is the wierd part...I have a beta of the F12k2 LeMans Mod that was quickly ported over to F1C. Using the Mod's cars I see almost NO texture/polygon problems. The Ferrari 360 had a couple of small triangles missing from the roof, and a Viper seemed to have no missing textures at all. So WHY does the mod display properly(or at least 95% better) when the original F1 cars do not? Here is a link to a couple of screenshots that displays the problem. http://home.comcast.net/~davehenrie/Simvid_index.html Anyone have ideas how to clean this up? (my appologies about the width of the website. I have very little experience with webstuff) Ati 9800(non Pro)No overclocking Catalyst 3.7 drivers..but every version I have used has the same problems Win98se Amd Xp2100+(no overclocking) fsaa and ansio and Vsync disabled. 512mb pc2100ddr ram. old A7A266motherboard(ali chipset) 4xagp max. dave henrie
Dave...if you remember i had exactly the same thing when i bought the Ati 9700 Pro and you tried to help me ..LOL It is really simple and after many many hours of trying everything it was such a relief to find the answer. I further backed up my own cure by trawling the forums with the precise search words and bingo ALOT of people had experienced the same problem,and into the bargain i became quite a well thanked person for the info :)) So Dave...after all the slobber...:)...here is the reason. Your motherboard. Your mobo maker might have an updated driver on the main site by now,it might be cured by using the very latest mobo GART drivers(AGP) or the latest BIOS update might do it. But for certain a change of mobo WILL do it. AD
"Aidee" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:bkjr0f$ag5$[email hidden]:
Quoted text (12 lines)> So Dave...after all the slobber...:)...here is the reason. > > Your motherboard. > > Your mobo maker might have an updated driver on the main site by > now,it might be cured by using the very latest mobo GART drivers(AGP) > or the latest BIOS update might do it. > > But for certain a change of mobo WILL do it. > > AD >
That sounds like the problem. A couple of users at RacesimCentral even had the same motherboard as I have. Since I had to SNEAK the vidcard puchase...a motherboard is gonna be a tough sell...hehehehe dave henrie
> That sounds like the problem. A couple of users at RacesimCentral even > had the same motherboard as I have. Since I had to SNEAK the vidcard > puchase...a motherboard is gonna be a tough sell...hehehehe > dave henrie Just curious what motherboard/chipset are you using? I have ran my 9700 pro on both my old ASUS A7M-266 (amd/via chipset) and my Leadtek K7N (Nforce2 chipset) and never saw anything like that, thank goodness MadDAWG
"MadDAWG" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:[email hidden]:
Quoted text (12 lines)>> That sounds like the problem. A couple of users at RacesimCentral >> even >> had the same motherboard as I have. Since I had to SNEAK the vidcard >> puchase...a motherboard is gonna be a tough sell...hehehehe >> dave henrie > > Just curious what motherboard/chipset are you using? I have ran my > 9700 pro on both my old ASUS A7M-266 (amd/via chipset) and my Leadtek > K7N (Nforce2 chipset) and never saw anything like that, thank goodness > > MadDAWG >
Asus A7A266. an ALI chipset. THey whipped it out I think when the first VIA chipsets had all sorts of problems. It also has memory slots for DDR and SDram so it's more of a one board fits all type of arrangement. Seems like all the local dealers here in town went for 'lowest common denominator' when they bought their supplies. And since at the time of my purchase the AMD/VIA/Soundblaster combo seemed to be having tons of problems, I jumped at the chance to avoid a VIA based board. I have an updated bios, but I think there is one more update version available. Not sure what difference that will make, the bios update is to enable compatibility with the 2600+ Thourobred CPU. I'd also like to move to a Barton AMD cpu so a new mb is becomming more and more important. dh
Yes Dave i have the same A7A266 board....it is used in the home network as pc3 now so it isnt important anymore :) AD
> Seems like all the local dealers here in town went for 'lowest common > denominator' when they bought their supplies. It was real common around here at first, but they started having a ton of problems with them so the local store started going for the A7M which has an AMD north bridge/VIA south bridge. The board is rock steady, but its limited to a 2000xp Palomino core chip so its now pc2 with a GF3. A good second setup for friends when they come over. My main box is a Leadtek K7N with the Nforce2 chipset and it runs the ATI9700 pro great. I just need a more powerful cpu. MadDAWG
"MadDAWG" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:[email hidden]:
Quoted text (14 lines)>> Seems like all the local dealers here in town went for 'lowest common >> denominator' when they bought their supplies. > > It was real common around here at first, but they started having a ton > of problems with them so the local store started going for the A7M > which has an AMD north bridge/VIA south bridge. The board is rock > steady, but its limited to a 2000xp Palomino core chip so its now pc2 > with a GF3. A good second setup for friends when they come over. My > main box is a Leadtek K7N with the Nforce2 chipset and it runs the > ATI9700 pro great. I just need a more powerful cpu. > > MadDAWG > >
My old A7A has updated bios' that allow it to run all the way up to 2600 Thoroughbred XP+ cpus. I would guess the the A7m's can be updated as well. dave henrie
> My old A7A has updated bios' that allow it to run all the way up to2600 > Thoroughbred XP+ cpus. I would guess the the A7m's can be updated aswell. > > dave henrie Last time I checked support for the A7Ms was discontinued and the 2100 palomino core was the top dog. I bought what was suppose to have been a 2100 palomino core chip, but it turned out to be a t-bred. At that point I said screw it and went for a new motherboard. MadDAWG

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