ECCI Trackstar 6000

Looked into ordering one today, says their out of stock. If they've sold that many of them surely someone here has one and can give us the scoop before we plunk down a grand for one of these puppies. David Stamper http://www.ecci.net

Talked with Andy Cers (ECCI's CEO) today, and he says the impression that the new 6000-series is "out of stock" is in error. It's a small company, so they aren't sitting on a warehouse full of these things, but Andy says they can ship an order within a day or two of the order being placed. Direct link here: http://ecci6000.com/consumerhome.htm Based on ECCI's previous "prosumer" efforts (most of their recent sales have been to commercial simulators), the 6000 is built like a brick outhouse and will last practically forever (I have one of their first units from a previous century and it still looks brand new inside). What's new is USB connectivity (a gameport connector is available if you still have a PDPI card and an ISA slot) and fully adjustable pedal geometry. The pedals are now suspended from above, just like the pedals in most RW race cars. In my experience, what makes ECCI gear worth the big bucks is not the steering mechanism itself (smoother, silkier, and more accurate than *any* FF unit I've tried), but the pedals. Where RW drivers score big improvements in lap times is in the ability to sense, sustain, and modulate "threshold" braking (just short of lockup). In the early days of sims, this didn't matter--you *couldn't* lock up the brakes in IndyCar Racing--but ever since GPL and the advent of Schumacher-like simultaneous application of the brake and throttle, great pedals are more important than great steering. Particularly in N2003, where injudicious use of the brakes can flat-spot a tire and cost you a pit stop or even the race. --Steve Smith "David Stamper" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:jt1cb.2994$k74.559@lakeread05...

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> Looked into ordering one today, says their out of stock. If they've sold > that many of them surely someone here has one and can give us the scoop > before we plunk down a grand for one of these puppies. > > David Stamper > > http://www.ecci.net > > >

I order mine direct from Andy last Thursday and its on its way today. Rush "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:_o5cb.143950$[email hidden]... > Talked with Andy Cers (ECCI's CEO) today, and he says the impression that > the new 6000-series is "out of stock" is in error. It's a small company,so > they aren't sitting on a warehouse full of these things, but Andy saysthey > can ship an order within a day or two of the order being placed. Direct > link here: > > http://ecci6000.com/consumerhome.htm > > Based on ECCI's previous "prosumer" efforts (most of their recent saleshave > been to commercial simulators), the 6000 is built like a brick outhouseand

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> will last practically forever (I have one of their first units from a > previous century and it still looks brand new inside). What's new is USB > connectivity (a gameport connector is available if you still have a PDPI > card and an ISA slot) and fully adjustable pedal geometry. The pedals are > now suspended from above, just like the pedals in most RW race cars. > > In my experience, what makes ECCI gear worth the big bucks is not the > steering mechanism itself (smoother, silkier, and more accurate than *any* > FF unit I've tried), but the pedals. Where RW drivers score big > improvements in lap times is in the ability to sense, sustain, and

modulate > "threshold" braking (just short of lockup). In the early days of sims,this > didn't matter--you *couldn't* lock up the brakes in IndyCar Racing--butever > since GPL and the advent of Schumacher-like simultaneous application ofthe

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> brake and throttle, great pedals are more important than great steering. > Particularly in N2003, where injudicious use of the brakes can flat-spot a > tire and cost you a pit stop or even the race. > > --Steve Smith > > "David Stamper" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:jt1cb.2994$k74.559@lakeread05... > > Looked into ordering one today, says their out of stock. If they've

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> > that many of them surely someone here has one and can give us the scoop > > before we plunk down a grand for one of these puppies. > > > > David Stamper > > > > http://www.ecci.net > > > > > > > >

Thanks Steve, Yea I had a CDS 4000. There is no comparison to any other wheel in my opinion. I am dying to get one of these 6000's just got to get the wife to go along or just promise not to leave me if I get one. ;) David Stamper Steve Smith <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:_o5cb.143950$[email hidden]... > Talked with Andy Cers (ECCI's CEO) today, and he says the impression that > the new 6000-series is "out of stock" is in error. It's a small company,so > they aren't sitting on a warehouse full of these things, but Andy saysthey > can ship an order within a day or two of the order being placed. Direct > link here: > > http://ecci6000.com/consumerhome.htm > > Based on ECCI's previous "prosumer" efforts (most of their recent saleshave > been to commercial simulators), the 6000 is built like a brick outhouseand

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> will last practically forever (I have one of their first units from a > previous century and it still looks brand new inside). What's new is USB > connectivity (a gameport connector is available if you still have a PDPI > card and an ISA slot) and fully adjustable pedal geometry. The pedals are > now suspended from above, just like the pedals in most RW race cars. > > In my experience, what makes ECCI gear worth the big bucks is not the > steering mechanism itself (smoother, silkier, and more accurate than *any* > FF unit I've tried), but the pedals. Where RW drivers score big > improvements in lap times is in the ability to sense, sustain, and

modulate > "threshold" braking (just short of lockup). In the early days of sims,this > didn't matter--you *couldn't* lock up the brakes in IndyCar Racing--butever > since GPL and the advent of Schumacher-like simultaneous application ofthe

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> brake and throttle, great pedals are more important than great steering. > Particularly in N2003, where injudicious use of the brakes can flat-spot a > tire and cost you a pit stop or even the race. > > --Steve Smith > > "David Stamper" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:jt1cb.2994$k74.559@lakeread05... > > Looked into ordering one today, says their out of stock. If they've

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> > that many of them surely someone here has one and can give us the scoop > > before we plunk down a grand for one of these puppies. > > > > David Stamper > > > > http://www.ecci.net > > > > > > > >

You better give us a full report when you get it. Did you get the GT? David Samper Rush <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:zx6cb.3523$[email hidden]...

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> I order mine direct from Andy last Thursday and its on its way today. > > Rush > > > "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:_o5cb.143950$[email hidden]... > > Talked with Andy Cers (ECCI's CEO) today, and he says the impression

that > > the new 6000-series is "out of stock" is in error. It's a smallcompany,

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> so > > they aren't sitting on a warehouse full of these things, but Andy says > they > > can ship an order within a day or two of the order being placed. Direct > > link here: > > > > http://ecci6000.com/consumerhome.htm > > > > Based on ECCI's previous "prosumer" efforts (most of their recent sales > have > > been to commercial simulators), the 6000 is built like a brick outhouse > and > > will last practically forever (I have one of their first units from a > > previous century and it still looks brand new inside). What's new is

USB > > connectivity (a gameport connector is available if you still have a PDPI > > card and an ISA slot) and fully adjustable pedal geometry. The pedalsare > > now suspended from above, just like the pedals in most RW race cars. > > > > In my experience, what makes ECCI gear worth the big bucks is not the > > steering mechanism itself (smoother, silkier, and more accurate than*any*

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> > FF unit I've tried), but the pedals. Where RW drivers score big > > improvements in lap times is in the ability to sense, sustain, and > modulate > > "threshold" braking (just short of lockup). In the early days of sims, > this > > didn't matter--you *couldn't* lock up the brakes in IndyCar Racing--but > ever > > since GPL and the advent of Schumacher-like simultaneous application of > the > > brake and throttle, great pedals are more important than great steering. > > Particularly in N2003, where injudicious use of the brakes can flat-spot

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> > tire and cost you a pit stop or even the race. > > > > --Steve Smith > > > > "David Stamper" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:jt1cb.2994$k74.559@lakeread05... > > > Looked into ordering one today, says their out of stock. If they've > sold > > > that many of them surely someone here has one and can give us the

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> > > before we plunk down a grand for one of these puppies. > > > > > > David Stamper > > > > > > http://www.ecci.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

I am going with the GTS. John Pribble even added the higher ratio pulley on the dampener. I like a workout when I race. Know anyone wanting a fully loaded CDS4000 Pocono for $300 plus shipping? "David Stamper" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:D47cb.3036$k74.304@lakeread05...

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> You better give us a full report when you get it. Did you get the GT? > > David Samper > > Rush <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:zx6cb.3523$[email hidden]... > > I order mine direct from Andy last Thursday and its on its way today. > > > > Rush > > > > > > "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:_o5cb.143950$[email hidden]... > > > Talked with Andy Cers (ECCI's CEO) today, and he says the impression > that > > > the new 6000-series is "out of stock" is in error. It's a small > company, > > so > > > they aren't sitting on a warehouse full of these things, but Andy says > > they > > > can ship an order within a day or two of the order being placed.

Direct > > > link here: > > > > > > http://ecci6000.com/consumerhome.htm > > > > > > Based on ECCI's previous "prosumer" efforts (most of their recentsales > > have > > > been to commercial simulators), the 6000 is built like a brickouthouse > > and > > > will last practically forever (I have one of their first units from a > > > previous century and it still looks brand new inside). What's new is > USB > > > connectivity (a gameport connector is available if you still have aPDPI

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> > > card and an ISA slot) and fully adjustable pedal geometry. The pedals > are > > > now suspended from above, just like the pedals in most RW race cars. > > > > > > In my experience, what makes ECCI gear worth the big bucks is not the > > > steering mechanism itself (smoother, silkier, and more accurate than > *any* > > > FF unit I've tried), but the pedals. Where RW drivers score big > > > improvements in lap times is in the ability to sense, sustain, and > > modulate > > > "threshold" braking (just short of lockup). In the early days of

sims, > > this > > > didn't matter--you *couldn't* lock up the brakes in IndyCarRacing--but > > ever > > > since GPL and the advent of Schumacher-like simultaneous applicationof > > the > > > brake and throttle, great pedals are more important than greatsteering. > > > Particularly in N2003, where injudicious use of the brakes canflat-spot

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> a > > > tire and cost you a pit stop or even the race. > > > > > > --Steve Smith > > > > > > "David Stamper" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:jt1cb.2994$k74.559@lakeread05... > > > > Looked into ordering one today, says their out of stock. If they've > > sold > > > > that many of them surely someone here has one and can give us the > scoop > > > > before we plunk down a grand for one of these puppies. > > > > > > > > David Stamper > > > > > > > > http://www.ecci.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

I couldnt find anything but do they sell the 6000 pedals separately and if so how much. I dont need the clutch but would like the PMB2 option. Mitch "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:_o5cb.143950$[email hidden]... > Talked with Andy Cers (ECCI's CEO) today, and he says the impression that > the new 6000-series is "out of stock" is in error. It's a small company,so > they aren't sitting on a warehouse full of these things, but Andy saysthey > can ship an order within a day or two of the order being placed. Direct > link here: > > http://ecci6000.com/consumerhome.htm > > Based on ECCI's previous "prosumer" efforts (most of their recent saleshave > been to commercial simulators), the 6000 is built like a brick outhouseand

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> will last practically forever (I have one of their first units from a > previous century and it still looks brand new inside). What's new is USB > connectivity (a gameport connector is available if you still have a PDPI > card and an ISA slot) and fully adjustable pedal geometry. The pedals are > now suspended from above, just like the pedals in most RW race cars. > > In my experience, what makes ECCI gear worth the big bucks is not the > steering mechanism itself (smoother, silkier, and more accurate than *any* > FF unit I've tried), but the pedals. Where RW drivers score big > improvements in lap times is in the ability to sense, sustain, and

modulate > "threshold" braking (just short of lockup). In the early days of sims,this > didn't matter--you *couldn't* lock up the brakes in IndyCar Racing--butever > since GPL and the advent of Schumacher-like simultaneous application ofthe

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> brake and throttle, great pedals are more important than great steering. > Particularly in N2003, where injudicious use of the brakes can flat-spot a > tire and cost you a pit stop or even the race. > > --Steve Smith > > "David Stamper" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:jt1cb.2994$k74.559@lakeread05... > > Looked into ordering one today, says their out of stock. If they've

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> > that many of them surely someone here has one and can give us the scoop > > before we plunk down a grand for one of these puppies. > > > > David Stamper > > > > http://www.ecci.net > > > > > > > >

From what I've seen they do sell the 3000 series pedals ($200). I had a set just like these with my CDS 4000. And mine had the PMB2 brake system. "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:lQ7cb.5768$[email hidden]...

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> I couldnt find anything but do they sell the 6000 pedals separately and if > so how much. I dont need the clutch but would like the PMB2 option. > > Mitch > > > "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:_o5cb.143950$[email hidden]... > > Talked with Andy Cers (ECCI's CEO) today, and he says the impression

that > > the new 6000-series is "out of stock" is in error. It's a smallcompany,

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> so > > they aren't sitting on a warehouse full of these things, but Andy says > they > > can ship an order within a day or two of the order being placed. Direct > > link here: > > > > http://ecci6000.com/consumerhome.htm > > > > Based on ECCI's previous "prosumer" efforts (most of their recent sales > have > > been to commercial simulators), the 6000 is built like a brick outhouse > and > > will last practically forever (I have one of their first units from a > > previous century and it still looks brand new inside). What's new is

USB > > connectivity (a gameport connector is available if you still have a PDPI > > card and an ISA slot) and fully adjustable pedal geometry. The pedalsare > > now suspended from above, just like the pedals in most RW race cars. > > > > In my experience, what makes ECCI gear worth the big bucks is not the > > steering mechanism itself (smoother, silkier, and more accurate than*any*

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> > FF unit I've tried), but the pedals. Where RW drivers score big > > improvements in lap times is in the ability to sense, sustain, and > modulate > > "threshold" braking (just short of lockup). In the early days of sims, > this > > didn't matter--you *couldn't* lock up the brakes in IndyCar Racing--but > ever > > since GPL and the advent of Schumacher-like simultaneous application of > the > > brake and throttle, great pedals are more important than great steering. > > Particularly in N2003, where injudicious use of the brakes can flat-spot

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> > tire and cost you a pit stop or even the race. > > > > --Steve Smith > > > > "David Stamper" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:jt1cb.2994$k74.559@lakeread05... > > > Looked into ordering one today, says their out of stock. If they've > sold > > > that many of them surely someone here has one and can give us the

scoop

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> > > before we plunk down a grand for one of these puppies. > > > > > > David Stamper > > > > > > http://www.ecci.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

That's a good price. The last one I saw on eBay went for over $400. "Rush" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:0r7cb.3576$[email hidden]... > I am going with the GTS. John Pribble even added the higher ratio pulleyon

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> the dampener. I like a workout when I race. > > Know anyone wanting a fully loaded CDS4000 Pocono for $300 plus shipping? > > > "David Stamper" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:D47cb.3036$k74.304@lakeread05... > > You better give us a full report when you get it. Did you get the GT? > > > > David Samper > > > > Rush <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:zx6cb.3523$[email hidden]... > > > I order mine direct from Andy last Thursday and its on its way today. > > > > > > Rush > > > > > > > > > "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:_o5cb.143950$[email hidden]... > > > > Talked with Andy Cers (ECCI's CEO) today, and he says the impression > > that > > > > the new 6000-series is "out of stock" is in error. It's a small > > company, > > > so > > > > they aren't sitting on a warehouse full of these things, but Andy

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> > > they > > > > can ship an order within a day or two of the order being placed. > Direct > > > > link here: > > > > > > > > http://ecci6000.com/consumerhome.htm > > > > > > > > Based on ECCI's previous "prosumer" efforts (most of their recent > sales > > > have > > > > been to commercial simulators), the 6000 is built like a brick > outhouse > > > and > > > > will last practically forever (I have one of their first units from

a > > > > previous century and it still looks brand new inside). What's newis > > USB > > > > connectivity (a gameport connector is available if you still have a > PDPI > > > > card and an ISA slot) and fully adjustable pedal geometry. Thepedals > > are > > > > now suspended from above, just like the pedals in most RW race cars. > > > > > > > > In my experience, what makes ECCI gear worth the big bucks is notthe

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> > > > steering mechanism itself (smoother, silkier, and more accurate than > > *any* > > > > FF unit I've tried), but the pedals. Where RW drivers score big > > > > improvements in lap times is in the ability to sense, sustain, and > > > modulate > > > > "threshold" braking (just short of lockup). In the early days of > sims, > > > this > > > > didn't matter--you *couldn't* lock up the brakes in IndyCar > Racing--but > > > ever > > > > since GPL and the advent of Schumacher-like simultaneous application > of > > > the > > > > brake and throttle, great pedals are more important than great > steering. > > > > Particularly in N2003, where injudicious use of the brakes can > flat-spot > > a > > > > tire and cost you a pit stop or even the race. > > > > > > > > --Steve Smith > > > > > > > > "David Stamper" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:jt1cb.2994$k74.559@lakeread05... > > > > > Looked into ordering one today, says their out of stock. If

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> > > sold > > > > > that many of them surely someone here has one and can give us the > > scoop > > > > > before we plunk down a grand for one of these puppies. > > > > > > > > > > David Stamper > > > > > > > > > > http://www.ecci.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Very good price. I tried to email you on this but the spam blocker got me. Send me a mail if you haven't sold it yet. "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:rQfcb.1116$[email hidden]... > That's a good price. The last one I saw on eBay went for over $400. > > "Rush" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:0r7cb.3576$[email hidden]... > > I am going with the GTS. John Pribble even added the higher ratiopulley > on > > the dampener. I like a workout when I race. > > > > Know anyone wanting a fully loaded CDS4000 Pocono for $300 plusshipping?

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> > > > > > "David Stamper" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:D47cb.3036$k74.304@lakeread05... > > > You better give us a full report when you get it. Did you get the GT? > > > > > > David Samper > > > > > > Rush <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:zx6cb.3523$[email hidden]... > > > > I order mine direct from Andy last Thursday and its on its way

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> > > > > > > > Rush > > > > > > > > > > > > "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:_o5cb.143950$[email hidden]... > > > > > Talked with Andy Cers (ECCI's CEO) today, and he says the

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> > > that > > > > > the new 6000-series is "out of stock" is in error. It's a small > > > company, > > > > so > > > > > they aren't sitting on a warehouse full of these things, but Andy > says > > > > they > > > > > can ship an order within a day or two of the order being placed. > > Direct > > > > > link here: > > > > > > > > > > http://ecci6000.com/consumerhome.htm > > > > > > > > > > Based on ECCI's previous "prosumer" efforts (most of their recent > > sales > > > > have > > > > > been to commercial simulators), the 6000 is built like a brick > > outhouse > > > > and > > > > > will last practically forever (I have one of their first units

from > a > > > > > previous century and it still looks brand new inside). What's new > is > > > USB > > > > > connectivity (a gameport connector is available if you still havea > > PDPI > > > > > card and an ISA slot) and fully adjustable pedal geometry. The > pedals > > > are > > > > > now suspended from above, just like the pedals in most RW racecars. > > > > > > > > > > In my experience, what makes ECCI gear worth the big bucks is not > the > > > > > steering mechanism itself (smoother, silkier, and more accuratethan

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> > > *any* > > > > > FF unit I've tried), but the pedals. Where RW drivers score big > > > > > improvements in lap times is in the ability to sense, sustain, and > > > > modulate > > > > > "threshold" braking (just short of lockup). In the early days of > > sims, > > > > this > > > > > didn't matter--you *couldn't* lock up the brakes in IndyCar > > Racing--but > > > > ever > > > > > since GPL and the advent of Schumacher-like simultaneous

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> > of > > > > the > > > > > brake and throttle, great pedals are more important than great > > steering. > > > > > Particularly in N2003, where injudicious use of the brakes can > > flat-spot > > > a > > > > > tire and cost you a pit stop or even the race. > > > > > > > > > > --Steve Smith > > > > > > > > > > "David Stamper" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > news:jt1cb.2994$k74.559@lakeread05... > > > > > > Looked into ordering one today, says their out of stock. If > they've > > > > sold > > > > > > that many of them surely someone here has one and can give us

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> > > scoop > > > > > > before we plunk down a grand for one of these puppies. > > > > > > > > > > > > David Stamper > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.ecci.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

I have an E1000/E2000 wheel & pedals and got my new unit last week and it's great. There are more adjustments than you could imagine for the pedals. I mostly play F1C and my times on all tracks is a lot better. The feel of the pedals and wheel is great. I highly recommend it if you want a super wheel and pedals. "David Stamper" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:jt1cb.2994$k74.559@lakeread05...

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> Looked into ordering one today, says their out of stock. If they've sold > that many of them surely someone here has one and can give us the scoop > before we plunk down a grand for one of these puppies. > > David Stamper > > http://www.ecci.net > > > >