Logitech momo FF wheel and paddle shift

This is maybe a silly question, but which side of the column is usually shifting up? Left or right? We are just setting up a GTR2 simulation on a computer with a Logitech steering wheel that has paddle shift and have to decide which side to allocate up and which side down. Thanks..

constantine wrote: > This is maybe a silly question, but which side of the column is usually > shifting up? Left or right? We are just setting up a GTR2 simulation on a > computer with a Logitech steering wheel that has paddle shift and have to > decide which side to allocate up and which side down. > > Thanks.. http://www.forbesautos.com/gallery/2005/ferrari/f430/?slide=18&play=t This shows a Ferrari with the DOWN on the left. I am assuming that UP would be on the right. Mike

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> This is maybe a silly question, but which side of the column is usually > shifting up? Left or right? We are just setting up a GTR2 simulation on a > computer with a Logitech steering wheel that has paddle shift and have to > decide which side to allocate up and which side down. > > Thanks.. > > >

Shift down on the left. Up on the right. For using a sequential 'back/forward' shifter it is pull towards yourself to shift up, push away to shift down. Anyone that doesn't shift this way is a freak and should be socially avoided. Full stop. End of discussion. MRSisson -- LOAD "GPL",8 SEARCHING FOR GPL LOADING READY. RUN

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> This is maybe a silly question, but which side of the column is usually > shifting up? Left or right? We are just setting up a GTR2 simulation on a > computer with a Logitech steering wheel that has paddle shift and have to > decide which side to allocate up and which side down. > > Thanks.. >

I couldn't conceive using the right for shifting down and the left for shifting up. I don't understand you question about "what side of the column...." If you mean the actual column (the gear-shifter, that is) on an actual car, then there's no logical transference from there to the paddles on a computer racing wheel. But for a person who is right-handed and views the world as a right-hander, right is always up and left is always down, the exact opposite of my political views. Alanb

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> In article <DgrLi.3419$[email hidden]>, > [email hidden] says... >> This is maybe a silly question, but which side of the column is usually >> shifting up? Left or right? We are just setting up a GTR2 simulation on >> a >> computer with a Logitech steering wheel that has paddle shift and have to >> decide which side to allocate up and which side down. >> >> Thanks.. >> >> >> > > Shift down on the left. Up on the right. > > For using a sequential 'back/forward' shifter it is pull towards > yourself to shift up, push away to shift down. > >

I don't agree with this. The Logitech Momo wheel has this type of stick; and though I don't use it for shifting because it means I can't have two hands on the wheel at all times, when I did use it to shift pushing away was always shifting up and pulling down was always shifting down. I mean, it's away from you and up and down towards you and down. There's no way I can conceive of this any differently. Alan

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> > "Michael Sisson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > For using a sequential 'back/forward' shifter it is pull towards > > yourself to shift up, push away to shift down. > > > > > > I don't agree with this. The Logitech Momo wheel has this type of stick; > and though I don't use it for shifting because it means I can't have two > hands on the wheel at all times, when I did use it to shift pushing away was > always shifting up and pulling down was always shifting down. I mean, it's > away from you and up and down towards you and down. There's no way I can > conceive of this any differently. > > > Alan >

FREAK! I ain't talking to you no more. MRSisson P.S. http://youtube.com/watch?v=8w7FpDU7b2w P.P.S. I'd think that real life drivers do it this way is due to the positive and negative Gs under accel and decel - pull when positive, push when negative. Just a guess. Hey, I'm not talking to you! -- LOAD "GPL",8 SEARCHING FOR GPL LOADING READY. RUN

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> > "constantine" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:DgrLi.3419$[email hidden]... >> This is maybe a silly question, but which side of the column is usually >> shifting up? Left or right? We are just setting up a GTR2 simulation on >> a computer with a Logitech steering wheel that has paddle shift and have >> to decide which side to allocate up and which side down. >> >> Thanks.. >> > > I couldn't conceive using the right for shifting down and the left for > shifting up. > > I don't understand you question about "what side of the column...." If > you mean the actual column (the gear-shifter, that is) on an actual car, > then there's no logical transference from there to the paddles on a > computer racing wheel. > > But for a person who is right-handed and views the world as a > right-hander, right is always up and left is always down, the exact > opposite of my political views. > > Alanb >

I understood him perfectly well. He can only be talking about the paddles either side of the 'column'. Right = up and left = down. For sequential lever; back = up and forward = down.

Michael Sisson wrote: > For using a sequential 'back/forward' shifter it is pull towards > yourself to shift up, push away to shift down. I think this is the most intuitive - think of a typical H pattern and you pull towards yourself to change up to 4th and push away to change down to 3rd, similar with 1st and 2nd. Other changes are dog legs so you don't have the same sensation. BUT just about every road car tiptronic box is set the other way - up push forward, down pull back. So this thread should have some form of disclaimer :) Cheers Tony

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>> >> I don't agree with this. The Logitech Momo wheel has this type of stick; >> and though I don't use it for shifting because it means I can't have two >> hands on the wheel at all times, when I did use it to shift pushing away >> was >> always shifting up and pulling down was always shifting down. I mean, >> it's >> away from you and up and down towards you and down. There's no way I can >> conceive of this any differently. >> >> >> Alan >> > > FREAK! > > I ain't talking to you no more. > >

haha Alanb

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> > "Alan Bernardo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:46fe8509$0$32556$[email hidden]... >> >> "constantine" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:DgrLi.3419$[email hidden]... >>> This is maybe a silly question, but which side of the column is usually >>> shifting up? Left or right? We are just setting up a GTR2 simulation on >>> a computer with a Logitech steering wheel that has paddle shift and have >>> to decide which side to allocate up and which side down. >>> >>> Thanks.. >>> >> >> I couldn't conceive using the right for shifting down and the left for >> shifting up. >> >> I don't understand you question about "what side of the column...." If >> you mean the actual column (the gear-shifter, that is) on an actual car, >> then there's no logical transference from there to the paddles on a >> computer racing wheel. >> >> But for a person who is right-handed and views the world as a >> right-hander, right is always up and left is always down, the exact >> opposite of my political views. >> >> Alanb >> > > I understood him perfectly well. He can only be talking about the paddles > either side of the 'column'. > > Right = up and left = down. > > For sequential lever; back = up and forward = down.

Oh, that column. Well, I thought he was talking of the actual shifter column in a real car. But the paddles and right for up and left for down I understood. I've never heard of anyone using the right for downshifting. That would be very odd. Alanb

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> > "Albert Ross" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:qcwLi.43675$[email hidden]... >> >> "Alan Bernardo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:46fe8509$0$32556$[email hidden]... >>> >>> "constantine" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>> news:DgrLi.3419$[email hidden]... >>>> This is maybe a silly question, but which side of the column is usually >>>> shifting up? Left or right? We are just setting up a GTR2 simulation >>>> on a computer with a Logitech steering wheel that has paddle shift and >>>> have to decide which side to allocate up and which side down. >>>> >>>> Thanks.. >>>> >>> >>> I couldn't conceive using the right for shifting down and the left for >>> shifting up. >>> >>> I don't understand you question about "what side of the column...." If >>> you mean the actual column (the gear-shifter, that is) on an actual car, >>> then there's no logical transference from there to the paddles on a >>> computer racing wheel. >>> >>> But for a person who is right-handed and views the world as a >>> right-hander, right is always up and left is always down, the exact >>> opposite of my political views. >>> >>> Alanb >>> >> >> I understood him perfectly well. He can only be talking about the paddles >> either side of the 'column'. >> >> Right = up and left = down. >> >> For sequential lever; back = up and forward = down. > > Oh, that column. Well, I thought he was talking of the actual shifter > column in a real car. But the paddles and right for up and left for down > I understood. I've never heard of anyone using the right for > downshifting. That would be very odd. >

Obviously it's the steering column. Never heard anyone call the gear lever a 'column' before...very odd term to use.

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> Shift down on the left. Up on the right. > > For using a sequential 'back/forward' shifter it is pull towards > yourself to shift up, push away to shift down. > > > Anyone that doesn't shift this way is a freak and should be socially > avoided. Full stop. End of discussion. > > > MRSisson

I'm a real freak, and lazy, I use auto-shifting. F1 cars have semi-auto-shifting anyway.

"Juarez" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:5oHOi.302586$[email hidden]... > I'm a real freak, and lazy, I use auto-shifting. F1 cars have > semi-auto-shifting anyway. F1 regs require the driver to initiate the shift; the shift is actually done by the hydraulics and computers. It can refuse to shift if it would be outside parameters (too fast for the lower gear), and it can retry the shift repeatedly if it fails to engage, but it can't choose its own timing. It also won't cue the downshift for later; it can only shift, or not shift. IMO, auto-shift is sub-optimal and just makes for surprises. It might not be so bad with traction control and ABS, but that's not driving an F1 car. All 3 technologies are verboten by their rules.