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EA Secures Exclusive Rights for NASCAR [26-09-2003 | DH | Comments (3) ] Electronic Arts today announced an exclusive relationship with NASCAR� for worldwide rights to develop, publish and distribute NASCAR-branded interactive racing games through 2009. Terms of the deals were not disclosed. This agreement allows EA to create interactive games on a number of gaming platforms, including consoles and PCs, using NASCAR properties. begin 666 blank.gif M1TE&.#EA!0`%`)$``````/_______P```"'Y! $```(`+ `````%``4```($ &E(^I6 `[ ` end

It will take at least until 2009 for them to get this multiplayer crap they have now any better. Face it, they do not care, and they don't have to. There are enough Dolts out there that do not want to bother setting up a computer much less a car to race. They would rather sit there fat @$$ on the couch and play an arcade racer where they win every race and lead every lap. Its another sad day to hear this, can PFW keep up to further what we have? Or will this hobby/sport I love die do to capitalism at its finest? SD "BClay" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > EA Secures Exclusive Rights for NASCAR [26-09-2003 | DH | Comments (3) ] > Electronic Arts today announced an exclusive relationship with NASCAR� for > worldwide rights to develop, publish and distribute NASCAR-branded > interactive racing games through 2009. Terms of the deals were not > disclosed. This agreement allows EA to create interactive games on anumber > of gaming platforms, including consoles and PCs, using NASCAR properties. > > >

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> It will take at least until 2009 for them to get this multiplayer crap they > have now any better. > > Face it, they do not care, and they don't have to. There are enough Dolts > out there that do not want to bother setting up a computer much less a car > to race. They would rather sit there fat @$$ on the couch and play an > arcade racer where they win every race and lead every lap. Its another sad > day to hear this, can PFW keep up to further what we have? Or will this > hobby/sport I love die do to capitalism at its finest? > > SD >

Hopefully N2003 and it's users will be around for a long time... the same as how GPL has survived. The little kids can go play with their arcade boxes while the serious simmers will have N2003 all to themselves.

LOL, what does capitalism haev to do with it? Papyrus decided to quit making the games, not EA ... "SDager34" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > It will take at least until 2009 for them to get this multiplayer crapthey > have now any better. > > Face it, they do not care, and they don't have to. There are enough Dolts > out there that do not want to bother setting up a computer much less a car > to race. They would rather sit there fat @$$ on the couch and play an > arcade racer where they win every race and lead every lap. Its anothersad

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> day to hear this, can PFW keep up to further what we have? Or will this > hobby/sport I love die do to capitalism at its finest? > > SD > > > > > "BClay" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > > EA Secures Exclusive Rights for NASCAR [26-09-2003 | DH | Comments (3) ] > > Electronic Arts today announced an exclusive relationship with NASCAR�

for > > worldwide rights to develop, publish and distribute NASCAR-branded > > interactive racing games through 2009. Terms of the deals were not > > disclosed. This agreement allows EA to create interactive games on a > number > > of gaming platforms, including consoles and PCs, using NASCARproperties. > > > > > > > >

LOL, capitalism was all there was to it. NASCAR could license to the developer who would make the best quality product that would have the longest term positive impact on the sport/industry, or, sell to the highest bidder--EA. Making decisions seemingly with money as the only criteria is the definition of "economic man" and rabid capitalism. Marc "Phillip Malphrus, Jr." <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > LOL, what does capitalism haev to do with it? Papyrus decided to quitmaking

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> the games, not EA ... > > > "SDager34" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > It will take at least until 2009 for them to get this multiplayer crap > they > > have now any better. > > > > Face it, they do not care, and they don't have to. There are enough

Dolts > > out there that do not want to bother setting up a computer much less acar

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> > to race. They would rather sit there fat @$$ on the couch and play an > > arcade racer where they win every race and lead every lap. Its another > sad > > day to hear this, can PFW keep up to further what we have? Or will this > > hobby/sport I love die do to capitalism at its finest? > > > > SD > > > > > > > > > > "BClay" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > EA Secures Exclusive Rights for NASCAR [26-09-2003 | DH | Comments

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> > > Electronic Arts today announced an exclusive relationship with NASCAR� > for > > > worldwide rights to develop, publish and distribute NASCAR-branded > > > interactive racing games through 2009. Terms of the deals were not > > > disclosed. This agreement allows EA to create interactive games on a > > number > > > of gaming platforms, including consoles and PCs, using NASCAR > properties. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 00:17:41 -0400, "Phillip Malphrus, Jr." <[email hidden]> wrote: >LOL, what does capitalism haev to do with it? Papyrus decided to quit making >the games, not EA ... You can't make a Nascar sim if you can't get a license for it. Jason

Makes you wonder if they really 'quit', or did they know they were going to lose the contract to EA. :( -- Tim White "Phillip Malphrus, Jr." <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > LOL, what does capitalism haev to do with it? Papyrus decided to quit making the games, not EA ... >

What are you talking about? Papy was talking about making GTA3 clones a year before N2003 ever came out ... You think its taken EA a year and a half to do this contract??? "Marc Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:%X8db.6439$[email hidden]...

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> LOL, capitalism was all there was to it. > > NASCAR could license to the developer who would make the best quality > product that would have the longest term positive impact on the > sport/industry, or, sell to the highest bidder--EA. Making decisions > seemingly with money as the only criteria is the definition of "economic > man" and rabid capitalism. > > Marc > > > "Phillip Malphrus, Jr." <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > LOL, what does capitalism haev to do with it? Papyrus decided to quit > making > > the games, not EA ... > > > > > > "SDager34" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > It will take at least until 2009 for them to get this multiplayer crap > > they > > > have now any better. > > > > > > Face it, they do not care, and they don't have to. There are enough > Dolts > > > out there that do not want to bother setting up a computer much less a > car > > > to race. They would rather sit there fat @$$ on the couch and play an > > > arcade racer where they win every race and lead every lap. Its

another > > sad > > > day to hear this, can PFW keep up to further what we have? Or willthis

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> > > hobby/sport I love die do to capitalism at its finest? > > > > > > SD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "BClay" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > EA Secures Exclusive Rights for NASCAR [26-09-2003 | DH | Comments > (3) ] > > > > Electronic Arts today announced an exclusive relationship with

NASCAR�

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> > for > > > > worldwide rights to develop, publish and distribute NASCAR-branded > > > > interactive racing games through 2009. Terms of the deals were not > > > > disclosed. This agreement allows EA to create interactive games on a > > > number > > > > of gaming platforms, including consoles and PCs, using NASCAR > > properties. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 17:16:43 GMT, "Tim" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Makes you wonder if they really 'quit', or did they know they were going to lose >the contract to EA. Isn't this announcement just an extension of an already exclusive contract? I thought an exclusive contract had been announced ages ago. Jason

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> > On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 17:16:43 GMT, "Tim" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Makes you wonder if they really 'quit', or did they know they were going to lose > >the contract to EA. > > Isn't this announcement just an extension of an already exclusive > contract? I thought an exclusive contract had been announced ages > ago.

I believe the previous "exclusive" was for consoles only, not PC Personally I think this would be a great opp for Papy to do an AussieV8 sim !!! Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

Both those are correct, EA had got the exclusive for Consoles and Papy knew it could not survive on PC only any longer. This happened at least a year ago now. Then Papy announced the next venture was to start making cross platform games for BOTH consoles and PC's, in order to be a viable thriving company and be able to keep the doors open. Papy did not give up or quit, good ole capitolism forced them to do this in order to make what the majority of the Walmart crowd NASCAR fan wants. An Arcade game they can sit in front of the TV and play on there stupid PS2, so they do not have to get of the couch.....they can lead every lap, wreck every driver they don't like (read Jimmy Spencer), and still win the race by a whole lap. Thats what most Dolts want and they get with EA and there crap GAMES. I would not be surprised to see Papy make a PC version of whatever they are working on and have some really cool unlockable stuff for us TRUE simulation crowd, but I could be wrong they may not have the time allowed to do that. SD "Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > > jason moyer wrote: > > > > On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 17:16:43 GMT, "Tim" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > >Makes you wonder if they really 'quit', or did they know they were

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> > >the contract to EA. > > > > Isn't this announcement just an extension of an already exclusive > > contract? I thought an exclusive contract had been announced ages > > ago. > > I believe the previous "exclusive" was for consoles only, not PC > > Personally I think this would be a great opp for Papy to do an AussieV8 > sim !!! > > > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy > "goyl at nettx dot no" > > http://www.theuspits.com > > "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" > --Groucho Marx--

Yeah, right. And Papyrus/Sierra were in it for the benefit they were making to humankind and NASCAR races have free access for the down-trodden masses. Gimme a break! The entire world is now based on capitalism. Bruce. "Marc Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:%X8db.6439$[email hidden]...

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> Making decisions > seemingly with money as the only criteria is the definition of "economic > man" and rabid capitalism. > > Marc > > > "Phillip Malphrus, Jr." <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > LOL, what does capitalism haev to do with it? Papyrus decided to quit > making > > the games, not EA ... > > > > > > "SDager34" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > It will take at least until 2009 for them to get this multiplayer crap > > they > > > have now any better. > > > > > > Face it, they do not care, and they don't have to. There are enough > Dolts > > > out there that do not want to bother setting up a computer much less a > car > > > to race. They would rather sit there fat @$$ on the couch and play an > > > arcade racer where they win every race and lead every lap. Its

another > > sad > > > day to hear this, can PFW keep up to further what we have? Or willthis

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> > > hobby/sport I love die do to capitalism at its finest? > > > > > > SD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "BClay" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > EA Secures Exclusive Rights for NASCAR [26-09-2003 | DH | Comments > (3) ] > > > > Electronic Arts today announced an exclusive relationship with

NASCAR�

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> > for > > > > worldwide rights to develop, publish and distribute NASCAR-branded > > > > interactive racing games through 2009. Terms of the deals were not > > > > disclosed. This agreement allows EA to create interactive games on a > > > number > > > > of gaming platforms, including consoles and PCs, using NASCAR > > properties. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

You said it! Bruce. "Steven Dager" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > .... but I could be wrong they may not have the time allowed to do that. >

[email hidden] (jason moyer) wrote in message > >LOL, what does capitalism haev to do with it? Papyrus decided to quit making > >the games, not EA ... > > You can't make a Nascar sim if you can't get a license for it. > > Jason You can make it you just can't sell it. But why does anyone care if EA has the rights to the brand name if there are better titles out there now? Let them sell to the couch potato market how does that hurt you?

On this day of our lord, Fri, 26 Sep 2003 20:48:50 -0500, "SDager34" <[email hidden]> quilled:

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>It will take at least until 2009 for them to get this multiplayer crap they >have now any better. > >Face it, they do not care, and they don't have to. There are enough Dolts >out there that do not want to bother setting up a computer much less a car >to race. They would rather sit there fat @$$ on the couch and play an >arcade racer where they win every race and lead every lap. Its another sad >day to hear this, can PFW keep up to further what we have? Or will this >hobby/sport I love die do to capitalism at its finest? > >SD

Oh no, the sky is falling! EA will probably take the same route as they did with F1 and turn their Nascar franchise into a decent sim eventually. Even NHL2004 is damn good this year so give them a bit of credit.