How do you use your pedals - one foot or two?

I've had my Momo Racing combo for about 3 weeks now. As in my car, I've been using my right foot to accelerate and brake. A friend told me that race car drivers typically use both feet - one for braking and one for acceleration. Is this true? How do you all use your pedals? One foot or two?

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> I've had my Momo Racing combo for about 3 weeks now. > As in my car, I've been using my right foot to accelerate and brake. > A friend told me that race car drivers typically use both feet - one > for braking and one for acceleration. > Is this true? > > How do you all use your pedals? One foot or two?

I use two for the sake of not wearing my feet out switching all the time throughout a race. J.R.

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> I've had my Momo Racing combo for about 3 weeks now. > As in my car, I've been using my right foot to accelerate and brake. > A friend told me that race car drivers typically use both feet - one > for braking and one for acceleration. > Is this true? > > How do you all use your pedals? One foot or two?

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> I've had my Momo Racing combo for about 3 weeks now. > As in my car, I've been using my right foot to accelerate and brake. > A friend told me that race car drivers typically use both feet - one > for braking and one for acceleration. > Is this true? > > How do you all use your pedals? One foot or two?

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> I've had my Momo Racing combo for about 3 weeks now. > As in my car, I've been using my right foot to accelerate and brake. > A friend told me that race car drivers typically use both feet - one > for braking and one for acceleration. > Is this true? > > How do you all use your pedals? One foot or two?

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> I've had my Momo Racing combo for about 3 weeks now. > As in my car, I've been using my right foot to accelerate and brake. > A friend told me that race car drivers typically use both feet - one > for braking and one for acceleration. > Is this true? > > How do you all use your pedals? One foot or two?

I use the 2 foot technique, have since I started racing sims back in 96. -- Don Burnette remove clothes when replying via email

I use 2 feet for the same reason that most simmers and race drivers do, it gives you better times through corners, as there is no delay in swapping from throttle to brake pedal. When I drive my real car I use 1 foot as I am not usually going quite as fast :-) Darf "Ashley McConnell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:blhfue$h0j$[email hidden]...

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> > "B. Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > I've had my Momo Racing combo for about 3 weeks now. > > As in my car, I've been using my right foot to accelerate and brake. > > A friend told me that race car drivers typically use both feet - one > > for braking and one for acceleration. > > Is this true? > > > > How do you all use your pedals? One foot or two? > > 2! > > Ash > http://www.siroccoracing.com > >

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> I've had my Momo Racing combo for about 3 weeks now. > As in my car, I've been using my right foot to accelerate and brake. > A friend told me that race car drivers typically use both feet - one > for braking and one for acceleration. > Is this true? > > How do you all use your pedals? One foot or two?

I'm a right-foot-only driver when sim racing. I've been told that it might be costing me some time at some tracks under some circumstances, but I live in fear of screwing up my footwork in the event that my next car will be a manual-transmission'd vehicle and my coordination in a position where a Shift-R can't get me a new car will be all messed up and I wind up in real world trouble. It probably won't ever happen, but why chance it?

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> "B. Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > I've had my Momo Racing combo for about 3 weeks now. > > As in my car, I've been using my right foot to accelerate and brake. > > A friend told me that race car drivers typically use both feet - one > > for braking and one for acceleration. > > Is this true? > > > > How do you all use your pedals? One foot or two? > > I'm a right-foot-only driver when sim racing. I've been told that it might > be costing me some time at some tracks under some circumstances, but I

live > in fear of screwing up my footwork in the event that my next car will be a > manual-transmission'd vehicle and my coordination in a position where a > Shift-R can't get me a new car will be all messed up and I wind up in real > world trouble. It probably won't ever happen, but why chance it? > > LOL! That's good. Trust me, it's easy to shift from 1 to 2 foot driving when going between manual and auto trannies in street cars. I own a couple of each and I am 2 footed in my automatic autos (and in the sim, where I don't have a clutch pedal and use the lone help 'auto-clutch' sometimes, somtimes not) and obviously brake and gas with one foot in my manual autos. The heel-toe method for 2 foot driving a manual only works in my Vette where the pedals are setup a little closer together and are condusive to this style. Even then I only do it when I'm in the mountains and the roads are condusive to shifting that much at one time. Of course I grew up doing stuff such as that and may be more comfortable than most in that situation. Do what you please, but you're over-thinking the street car thing a tad much. Do what you need to do to go fast in the sim and it will not hurt your street driving instincts one bit IMHO.

>How do you all use your pedals? One foot or two? I switched over to left-foot braking a couple years ago. It probably dropped my GPLRank by about 10 seconds. Not a lot, granted - but faster. Eldred -- .sig file is at the cleaners... Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank -2.4 N2k3 rank ? Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

> > How do you all use your pedals? One foot or two? One foot. I've been trying to make the transition to left foot braking lately, but am still very clumsy at it. I've been assured that with some practice, there are a lot of spots where I can shave some time off through corners with left foot braking. Old habits die hard, though, and I'm still a couple seconds per track faster in GPL with right foot braking. itazura GPLRank -40

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> I've had my Momo Racing combo for about 3 weeks now. > As in my car, I've been using my right foot to accelerate and brake. > A friend told me that race car drivers typically use both feet - one > for braking and one for acceleration. > Is this true? > > How do you all use your pedals? One foot or two?

Two here. -- Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups. ICQ: 138579247

says... Two here. -- Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups. ICQ: 138579247

Two... At some courses, using fixed setups, you HAVE to. Some of the setups are terribly loose on entry, and if you don't pre-load the brakes and let the slight front brake bias help you, you are gonna spin out. If I remember correctly, the Rock was a very prime example of this. Richmond is also easier to handle with the brakes just slightly pre-loaded before letting up. -Larry "B. Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> I've had my Momo Racing combo for about 3 weeks now. > As in my car, I've been using my right foot to accelerate and brake. > A friend told me that race car drivers typically use both feet - one > for braking and one for acceleration. > Is this true? > > How do you all use your pedals? One foot or two?

I use 3 feet, one for the accelerator, one for the brake and one for the clutch. "B. Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> I've had my Momo Racing combo for about 3 weeks now. > As in my car, I've been using my right foot to accelerate and brake. > A friend told me that race car drivers typically use both feet - one > for braking and one for acceleration. > Is this true? > > How do you all use your pedals? One foot or two?

We already knew youre an alien Mikey :) "Mike Grandy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:5QYeb.5832$[email hidden]...

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> I use 3 feet, one for the accelerator, one for the brake and one for the > clutch. > > > "B. Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > I've had my Momo Racing combo for about 3 weeks now. > > As in my car, I've been using my right foot to accelerate and brake. > > A friend told me that race car drivers typically use both feet - one > > for braking and one for acceleration. > > Is this true? > > > > How do you all use your pedals? One foot or two? > >

Depends if the cops are chasing me. "B. Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> I've had my Momo Racing combo for about 3 weeks now. > As in my car, I've been using my right foot to accelerate and brake. > A friend told me that race car drivers typically use both feet - one > for braking and one for acceleration. > Is this true? > > How do you all use your pedals? One foot or two?

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> I've had my Momo Racing combo for about 3 weeks now. > As in my car, I've been using my right foot to accelerate and brake. > A friend told me that race car drivers typically use both feet - one > for braking and one for acceleration. > Is this true? > > How do you all use your pedals? One foot or two?

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> I've had my Momo Racing combo for about 3 weeks now. > As in my car, I've been using my right foot to accelerate and brake. > A friend told me that race car drivers typically use both feet - one > for braking and one for acceleration. > Is this true? > > How do you all use your pedals? One foot or two?

I use left-foot braking on ovals (and at times in LFS... those FWD need some help from time to time..) and I use right-foot braking on road-courses. (got to heel 'n toe :-) In F1-2002 etc. I use two feets att the time as theres no point in doing anything else 'cause the cars got so damn short power-band. -- ed_ http://rascar.racesimcentral.com ----------------------------------------------- $10 says Petter Solberg wins the 2003 WRC

The problem is Don gets confused and tries to use gas with left foot and brake with right foot.... it's a site to see! ;) -- Scott B. Husted ICQ# 439540 http://www.Husted.cc Remove BOGUS from address for e-mail. "I would rather have a German division in front of me than a French one behind me." - General George S. Patton "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > B. Jones wrote: > > I've had my Momo Racing combo for about 3 weeks now. > > As in my car, I've been using my right foot to accelerate and brake. > > A friend told me that race car drivers typically use both feet - one > > for braking and one for acceleration. > > Is this true? > > > > How do you all use your pedals? One foot or two? > > I use the 2 foot technique, have since I started racing sims back in 96. > > -- > Don Burnette > > remove clothes when replying via email > >

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> I use 3 feet, one for the accelerator, one for the brake and one > for the clutch. > > > "B. Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... >> I've had my Momo Racing combo for about 3 weeks now. >> As in my car, I've been using my right foot to accelerate and >> brake. A friend told me that race car drivers typically use both >> feet - one for braking and one for acceleration. >> Is this true? >> >> How do you all use your pedals? One foot or two? > >

You save a significant amount of money by going back to two legs. First, you don't have to pay for the upgrade to the footpedals *with* clutch. Second, you don't have to pay your tailor for those custom trousers. Third, you might not have to pay women to date you. (Maybe they pay you, I'm only assuming that most women would run away screaming if they saw a three legged man -- and I am *not* speaking of the short, middle leg here.) YMMV, -- Darryl

I bet you can't race with your legs crossed. :-) Pete "Scott B. Husted�" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:oD%eb.8712$[email hidden]...

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> The problem is Don gets confused and tries to use gas with left foot and > brake with right foot.... it's a site to see! ;) > > -- > Scott B. Husted > ICQ# 439540 > http://www.Husted.cc >

2, left foot for clutch pedal, right foot for gas & brake pedal, im using actlabs 3 pedal set (performance pedal) [email hidden] (B. Jones) wrote in news:[email hidden]:

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> I've had my Momo Racing combo for about 3 weeks now. > As in my car, I've been using my right foot to accelerate and brake. > A friend told me that race car drivers typically use both feet - one > for braking and one for acceleration. > Is this true? > > How do you all use your pedals? One foot or two? >

[email hidden] (B. Jones) wrote in news:e6ca440a.0310020659.1f32f048 @posting.google.com: > How do you all use your pedals? One foot or two? Right-foot brake here, baby! (Am I the only one???) The fastest guys are pretty much all left-foot brakers. But I'm -20 in GPL and that's not horrible. (Except to the aliens I guess) --- Ped "RFB" Xing

So, Darryl. How short IS that middle leg? Have I got some SPAM for you! Jim Darryl Johnson wrote:

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>Mike Grandy wrote in news:5QYeb.5832$[email hidden]: > > > >>I use 3 feet, one for the accelerator, one for the brake and one >>for the clutch. >> >> >>"B. Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>news:[email hidden]... >> >> >>>I've had my Momo Racing combo for about 3 weeks now. >>>As in my car, I've been using my right foot to accelerate and >>>brake. A friend told me that race car drivers typically use both >>>feet - one for braking and one for acceleration. >>>Is this true? >>> >>>How do you all use your pedals? One foot or two? >>> >>> >> >> > >You save a significant amount of money by going back to two legs. >First, you don't have to pay for the upgrade to the footpedals *with* >clutch. Second, you don't have to pay your tailor for those custom >trousers. Third, you might not have to pay women to date you. (Maybe >they pay you, I'm only assuming that most women would run away >screaming if they saw a three legged man -- and I am *not* speaking >of the short, middle leg here.) > >YMMV, > >

Use 'em or lose 'em. I keep 'em both busy. Jim B. Jones wrote:

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>I've had my Momo Racing combo for about 3 weeks now. >As in my car, I've been using my right foot to accelerate and brake. >A friend told me that race car drivers typically use both feet - one >for braking and one for acceleration. >Is this true? > >How do you all use your pedals? One foot or two? > >

Speaking of Mike.. How are those drop down pedals of that new ECCI? Do you notice a big difference ? "Mike Grandy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:5QYeb.5832$[email hidden]...

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> I use 3 feet, one for the accelerator, one for the brake and one for the > clutch. > > > "B. Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > I've had my Momo Racing combo for about 3 weeks now. > > As in my car, I've been using my right foot to accelerate and brake. > > A friend told me that race car drivers typically use both feet - one > > for braking and one for acceleration. > > Is this true? > > > > How do you all use your pedals? One foot or two? > >

Hey, it works!! :) Don Scott B. Husted� wrote:

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> The problem is Don gets confused and tries to use gas with left foot > and brake with right foot.... it's a site to see! ;) > > > "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... >> B. Jones wrote: >>> I've had my Momo Racing combo for about 3 weeks now. >>> As in my car, I've been using my right foot to accelerate and brake. >>> A friend told me that race car drivers typically use both feet - one >>> for braking and one for acceleration. >>> Is this true? >>> >>> How do you all use your pedals? One foot or two? >> >> I use the 2 foot technique, have since I started racing sims back in >> 96. >> >> -- >> Don Burnette >> >> remove clothes when replying via email

I've always used 1 but after reading this thread may try 2. I'm heavy into MB World Racing and will always have at least one F1 game on the go. Two feet makes sense; it does save time and at racing speeds (even in a MB S430 :) ), half-seconds count. - F50 GT B. Jones wrote:

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> I've had my Momo Racing combo for about 3 weeks now. > As in my car, I've been using my right foot to accelerate and brake. > A friend told me that race car drivers typically use both feet - one > for braking and one for acceleration. > Is this true? > > How do you all use your pedals? One foot or two?

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> > I've had my Momo Racing combo for about 3 weeks now. > As in my car, I've been using my right foot to accelerate and brake. > A friend told me that race car drivers typically use both feet - one > for braking and one for acceleration. > Is this true? > > How do you all use your pedals? One foot or two?

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> Right-foot brake here, baby! (Am I the only one???) > > The fastest guys are pretty much all left-foot brakers. But I'm -20 in GPL > and that's not horrible. (Except to the aliens I guess) > > --- > Ped "RFB" Xing

I also right foot brake and I'm -67.xx in GPLrank, fastest RFB guy I know is Joosa Riekkinen at -86.454 (in top10 of GPLrank). Both of us also use H-shifter for shifting. Your right that most fast guys left foot brake but IMO right foot braking is not at all slower then left foot braking, it just requires a different driving style. I for example use very little trailbraking, quite the opposite of how I drove when I left foot braked. I was stuck at -52 rank when I switched to right foot braking and after a month or so I was faster then I ever was with LFB. I still use LFB on some games (modern F1-sims, Nascar on ovals, GTR2002). Aku "Slightly OT" Pietik�inen

1 I've raced some Karts where I had to use both feet and I got used to it pretty quick. There are places I do 2 foot at Nurburgring. 2 footed stock car setups are a nightmare for me unless I shift some weight around. Boby Labonte is a 1 footer I've heard. I can do 1:04's at Watkins Glen in the Eagle (GPL) 1 footed so it cant be all that terrible for your driving.. but maybe it is the difference? ;) "Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > > "B. Jones" wrote: > > > > I've had my Momo Racing combo for about 3 weeks now. > > As in my car, I've been using my right foot to accelerate and brake. > > A friend told me that race car drivers typically use both feet - one > > for braking and one for acceleration. > > Is this true? > > > > How do you all use your pedals? One foot or two? > > 2 > > > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy > "goyl at nettx dot no" > > http://www.theuspits.com > > "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" > --Groucho Marx--

I actually tried that on a dare once. It's hard :) -Larry "Pete" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:0r0fb.4202$[email hidden]...

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> I bet you can't race with your legs crossed. :-) > > Pete > > "Scott B. Husted�" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:oD%eb.8712$[email hidden]... > > The problem is Don gets confused and tries to use gas with left foot and > > brake with right foot.... it's a site to see! ;) > > > > -- > > Scott B. Husted > > ICQ# 439540 > > http://www.Husted.cc > > > >

Or better yet. Just try using your left foot for both. I tore up the tendons in my right leg playing tennis and had to do that for 8 weeks. Found it was worse driving a real car though. :-) Pete "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:h4efb.47086$a16.38658@lakeread01... > I actually tried that on a dare once. It's hard :) > > -Larry >

On 2 Oct 2003 07:59:54 -0700, [email hidden] (B. Jones) wrote: >How do you all use your pedals? One foot or two? One. Jason

One most of the time. Sometimes I get my extra wooden legs out of the closet and I use 3 or 4 <G> Nim "B. Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> I've had my Momo Racing combo for about 3 weeks now. > As in my car, I've been using my right foot to accelerate and brake. > A friend told me that race car drivers typically use both feet - one > for braking and one for acceleration. > Is this true? > > How do you all use your pedals? One foot or two?

Nim Cross wrote: > > One most of the time. Sometimes I get my extra wooden legs out of the > closet and I use 3 or 4 <G> ROFL, Monty Python couldn't have done that better Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

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> I also right foot brake and I'm -67.xx in GPLrank, fastest RFB guy I > know is Joosa Riekkinen at -86.454 (in top10 of GPLrank). Both of us > also use H-shifter for shifting. Your right that most fast guys left > foot brake but IMO right foot braking is not at all slower then left > foot braking, it just requires a different driving style. I for > example use very little trailbraking, quite the opposite of how I > drove when I left foot braked.

Yes, but you guys are Finnish. That by itself has to be worth -40 points in GPLRank. ;-) Wow, right-foot brake and H-shifting! Joosa has world records too, if I remember correctly... > > I was stuck at -52 rank when I switched to right foot braking and "Stuck" on -52? I'd love to be "stuck" there. ;-)

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In article <[email hidden]>, Ped Xing <[email hidden]> writes: >> I was stuck at -52 rank when I switched to right foot braking and > >"Stuck" on -52? I'd love to be "stuck" there. ;-) > I'd love to just get to -20... Eldred -- .sig file is at the cleaners... Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank -2.4 N2k3 rank ? Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

I only use one pedal - the one on the right. What's the other one for? ;) Regards, Rudy (GPLRank -10)

EldredP wrote: >>>I was stuck at -52 rank when I switched to right foot braking and >> >>"Stuck" on -52? I'd love to be "stuck" there. ;-) > > I'd love to just get to -20... I'd love to get to -11 :) Regards, Rudy (GPLRank -10)

One foot ...... but then I only use one pedal. I only race in CMR's 2 and 3 (for now) - and don't bother with the brakes, as speeds reached aren't that high. I'm sure this must affect my lap times, but I can still beat expert AI's on all CMR2 arcade circuits. The trouble is, I can't tell how heavily I'm braking - as there are no FF pedals I know of, so it's a bit off-putting. Still, it's made me curious enough to try with some braking. "B. Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> I've had my Momo Racing combo for about 3 weeks now. > As in my car, I've been using my right foot to accelerate and brake. > A friend told me that race car drivers typically use both feet - one > for braking and one for acceleration. > Is this true? > > How do you all use your pedals? One foot or two?

[email hidden] (EldredP) wrote in news:[email hidden]: > I'd love to just get to -20... You can do it, Eldred. Just take the Lotus out for some laps at all tracks. :-)

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>[email hidden] (EldredP) wrote in >news:[email hidden]: > >> I'd love to just get to -20... > >You can do it, Eldred. Just take the Lotus out for some laps at all >tracks. :-) >

I've already done that. All my PBs (except Mexico, I think) are in the Lotus. That was what got me from +8 or so to -2.. So, I'm *already* using the fastest car... Eldred -- Member Screamers Racing League IICC League Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank -2.4 MoGPL rank +302.38 ChallengeRank +54.48 MoC +743.77 Hist. +82.82 MoH in progress N2k3 rank:in progress Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

EldredP wrote: > That was what got me from +8 or so to -2.. So, I'm *already* using the fastest > car... Ask around for a fast driver to to the job ;) Regards, Rudy PS. The only way to get there FAST is to attack the Ring.

[email hidden] (EldredP) wrote in news:[email hidden]: > I've already done that. All my PBs (except Mexico, I think) are in > the Lotus. That was what got me from +8 or so to -2.. So, I'm > *already* using the fastest car... Like Rudy said, spend some time at the Ring. ;-)

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>EldredP wrote: > >> That was what got me from +8 or so to -2.. So, I'm *already* using the >fastest >> car... > >Ask around for a fast driver to to the job ;) > >Regards, Rudy > >PS. The only way to get there FAST is to attack the Ring.

Attacking the ring gets me into a tree, FAST<g>. I dunno, just something about that track. It's an 8+ minute lap, but I can't find the 2 *seconds* that would get me negative there... :-( Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Member Screamers Racing League IICC League GPLRank -2.4 MoGPL rank +302.38 ChallengeRank +54.48 MoC +743.77 Hist. +82.82 MoH in progress N2k3 rank:in progress Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

EldredP wrote: > Attacking the ring gets me into a tree, FAST <g>. While you're there, could you throw me that bundle of Lotuses I left up in the branches? ;) > that track. It's an 8+ minute lap, but I can't find the 2 *seconds* that would > get me negative there... :-( You can if you're already that close. Then it's just a matter of putting in the laps and work at it like a pig for days (like I did... ;) Regards, Rudy (GPLRank -10)

"Darf" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3f7c4534$0$6524$[email hidden]... > I use 2 feet for the same reason that most simmers and race drivers do, > it gives you better times through corners, as there is no delay inswapping > from throttle to brake pedal. That isn't the main reason they do it - it's a way of moving brake/weight balance while braking/cornering. KK

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>[email hidden] (EldredP) wrote in >news:[email hidden]: > >> I've already done that. All my PBs (except Mexico, I think) are in >> the Lotus. That was what got me from +8 or so to -2.. So, I'm >> *already* using the fastest car... > >Like Rudy said, spend some time at the Ring. ;-)

I *have*. Actually, my 8:23 Ring lap last December 13th is what got me negative overall... I think I've only broken 8:30 TWICE since then... :-( Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Member Screamers Racing League IICC League GPLRank -2.4 MoGPL rank +302.38 ChallengeRank +54.48 MoC +743.77 Hist. +82.82 MoH in progress N2k3 rank:in progress Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

"EldredP" wrote... > I *have*. Actually, my 8:23 Ring lap last December 13th > is what got me negative overall... I think I've only > broken 8:30 TWICE since then... :-( Then go drive it some more, but don't do it in GPL. Get the "rough and ready" conversion for F12k2/F1C and have at it with the GTR2002 N-GT Ferrari and Doug Arnao's Spa setup. Not only will that get you near or under the 8-minute mark in no time (always good for the ego), the grippier car will also allow you to play with your line through the corner sequences. It also helps you get used to the scenery zipping by at an alarming rate. 'cos That's what it's all about at the Ring. Driving a good line and using all of the track. If you push yourself to the very limit this track will bite you, so it's a matter of working with it to go as fast as you can at 98%. Anyhow, trust me, you will begin to see "through" the sections better in F1C. Along with some setup improvement (care to try some of my current ones?), it helped me to knock another 6 seconds off my times in GPL. Jan. =---

> >Then go drive it some more, but don't do it in GPL. Get the "rough and >ready" conversion for F12k2/F1C and have at it with the GTR2002 N-GT Ferrari >and Doug Arnao's Spa setup. I haven't loaded *any* mods for it yet. I had serious problems trying to load a couple of JB's mods for another game, so I've been leery of mods ever since. :-(

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>Not only will that get you near or under the 8-minute mark in no time >(always good for the ego), the grippier car will also allow you to play with >your line through the corner sequences. It also helps you get used to the >scenery zipping by at an alarming rate. > >'cos That's what it's all about at the Ring. Driving a good line and using >all of the track.

That's something I still have to work on, but I don't know how. Looking at the replay, it's very obvious that I don't use all the track. But when I'm driving, it seems like I'm already at the edge. I think it's a perception problem, and I've noticed it in all the games I play. However, I don't have that problem in real life - I can put my car *exactly* where I want it. It's just something wrong in the games... :-( Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Member Screamers Racing League IICC League GPLRank -2.4 MoGPL rank +302.38 ChallengeRank +54.48 MoC +743.77 Hist. +82.82 MoH in progress N2k3 rank:in progress Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

"Alan J. Claffie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<blhh01$ccf49$[email hidden]>... > I'm a right-foot-only driver when sim racing. I've been told that it might > be costing me some time at some tracks under some circumstances, but I live > in fear of screwing up my footwork in the event that my next car will be a > manual-transmission'd vehicle and my coordination in a position where a > Shift-R can't get me a new car will be all messed up and I wind up in real > world trouble. It probably won't ever happen, but why chance it? It won't happen. You won't be braking with your left foot because you will need it to work the clutch. Once that motion is burned in your sub-conscious, it is hard to shake. It actually makes it harder to go the other way, from a manual to an auto. I have (on more than one occasion, sadly) completely locked all four wheels in an automatic because I tried to disengage the non-existant clutch by stomping on the brake pedal with my left foot.

EldredP wrote: > replay, it's very obvious that I don't use all the track. But when I'm > driving, it seems like I'm already at the edge. I think it's a perception > problem, and I've noticed it in all the games I play. However, I don't have > that problem in real life - I can put my car *exactly* where I want it. It's > just something wrong in the games... :-( So the games are to blame, are they ;) Perhaps you need to get a bigger monitor, or sit closer to it. I noticed I'm losing vision and perception if I don't get me nose close enough to the old tube. I'm not surprised you can put your car where you want it in real life though. There, you tend to get excellent 3D (force! ;) feedback and, most importantly, you've probably never driven your real car to the very, very limit like we do in GPL et al. And *that's* when it starts to get difficult. Regards, Rudy (GPLRank -10)

>So the games are to blame, are they ;) >Well, the games or my perception thereof. I'll allow that maybe I'm just not processing the limited information I get from the creeen efficiently.

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>Perhaps you need to get a bigger monitor, or sit closer to it. I noticed >I'm losing vision and perception if I don't get me nose close enough to >the old tube. > >I'm not surprised you can put your car where you want it in real life >though. There, you tend to get excellent 3D (force! ;) feedback and, >most importantly, you've probably never driven your real car to the >very, very limit like we do in GPL et al. And *that's* when it starts >to get difficult.

I have problems in the games even at slow speed. I can't run the proper line and use all the track even in an F3 car. I *have* driven a Skip Barber car before, and was able to hit the marks fine with that. That's probably as close to the limit as I get in GPL. Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Member Screamers Racing League IICC League GPLRank -2.4 MoGPL rank +302.38 ChallengeRank +54.48 MoC +743.77 Hist. +82.82 MoH in progress N2k3 rank:in progress Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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> "B. Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > I've had my Momo Racing combo for about 3 weeks now. > > As in my car, I've been using my right foot to accelerate and brake. > > A friend told me that race car drivers typically use both feet - one > > for braking and one for acceleration. > > Is this true? > > > > How do you all use your pedals? One foot or two? > > I'm a right-foot-only driver when sim racing. I've been told that it might > be costing me some time at some tracks under some circumstances, but I

live > in fear of screwing up my footwork in the event that my next car will be a > manual-transmission'd vehicle and my coordination in a position where a > Shift-R can't get me a new car will be all messed up and I wind up in real > world trouble. It probably won't ever happen, but why chance it? > > I recently got a manual transmission car, I've been driving standard for probably 20 years solid. Anyway, having been a two footed sim driver I can say that it took very little time to get comfortable using a clutch again. The *REAL* problem is that now I really want a three pedal setup for sim racing :-( Sean

In article <[email hidden]>, "McWhom" <[email hidden]> writes: >I recently got a manual transmission car, I've been driving standard for >probably 20 years solid. Anyway, having been a two footed sim driver I can >say that it took very little time to get comfortable using a clutch again. >The *REAL* problem is that now I really want a three pedal setup for sim >racing :-( TSW2mod - Mine has 3 pedals. I got that one on purpose(more realism?), but I never got comfortable enough with my driving to deal with the clutch as well...<g> Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Member Screamers Racing League IICC League GPLRank -2.4 MoGPL rank +302.38 ChallengeRank +54.48 MoC +743.77 Hist. +82.82 MoH in progress N2k3 rank:in progress Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

"EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <[email hidden]>, "McWhom" > <[email hidden]> writes: > > >I recently got a manual transmission car, I've been driving standard for > >probably 20 years solid. Anyway, having been a two footed sim driver Ican > >say that it took very little time to get comfortable using a clutchagain. > >The *REAL* problem is that now I really want a three pedal setup for sim > >racing :-( > > TSW2mod - Mine has 3 pedals. I got that one on purpose(more realism?),but I > never got comfortable enough with my driving to deal with the clutch as > well...<g> > > Eldred Man, that website is making me drool :-)~ I still have to upgrade my pc to a decent gaming system before I can even begin to think about that kind of layout of pedals or a controller system. sean