GPL + V3 3000 freeze problem

Today I bought a V3 3000 AGP card, because GP3 didn't run on my V2 SLI cards. GP3 runs perfect now. BUT: When I start gpl, I get the starting screen with the gpl logo, and then the system freezes. I have to manually reset my pc after the freeze. I have installed Dx70a, the latest 3dfx drivers (1.05.00), ofcourse the GPL 1.2 patch, and I have disabled triple buffering. I also reinstalled all of the above again tonight just to make sure. Any help please? Andre

On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 20:28:31 GMT, Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> wrote: >Today I bought a V3 3000 AGP card, because GP3 didn't run on my V2 SLI >cards. GP3 runs perfect now. >BUT: When I start gpl, I get the starting screen with the gpl logo, >and then the system freezes. I have to manually reset my pc after the >freeze. You may wish to consider grabbing the D3D rasterizer from the Papyrus site and running your V3 with it instead of the Glide rasterizer. From what I've heard so far it's equivalent in performance and may have some benefits, to boot. Worth a shot, anyway. Regards, Brett C. Cammack That's Racing! Motorsports Pompano Beach, Fl

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> > Today I bought a V3 3000 AGP card, because GP3 didn't run on my V2 SLI > cards. GP3 runs perfect now. > BUT: When I start gpl, I get the starting screen with the gpl logo, > and then the system freezes. I have to manually reset my pc after the > freeze. > > I have installed Dx70a, the latest 3dfx drivers (1.05.00), ofcourse > the GPL 1.2 patch, and I have disabled triple buffering. > I also reinstalled all of the above again tonight just to make sure. > > Any help please? > > Andre

Do you have anything in PCI slot 1? I used to have a modem in there which caused freezes like you are getting.

Today I bought a V3 3000 AGP card, because GP3 didn't run on my V2 SLI cards. GP3 runs perfect now. BUT: When I start gpl, I get the starting screen with the gpl logo, and then the system freezes. I have to manually reset my pc after the freeze. I have installed Dx70a, the latest 3dfx drivers (1.05.00), ofcourse the GPL 1.2 patch, and I have disabled triple buffering. I also reinstalled all of the above again tonight just to make sure. Any help please? Andre

On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 21:59:00 +0100, "G.Aitken" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> > >Andre Warringa wrote: >> >> Today I bought a V3 3000 AGP card, because GP3 didn't run on my V2 SLI >> cards. GP3 runs perfect now. >> BUT: When I start gpl, I get the starting screen with the gpl logo, >> and then the system freezes. I have to manually reset my pc after the >> freeze. >> >> I have installed Dx70a, the latest 3dfx drivers (1.05.00), ofcourse >> the GPL 1.2 patch, and I have disabled triple buffering. >> I also reinstalled all of the above again tonight just to make sure. >> >> Any help please? >> >> Andre > >Do you have anything in PCI slot 1? I used to have a modem in there >which >caused freezes like you are getting.

No, PCI slot 1 is free. Someone at VROC told me to look at irq conflicts, and indeed, both my SBLive card and my V3 card shared IRQ 10. I moved the SBLive card from PCI slot 4 to slot 2 and now V3 has IRQ 10 all for itself. I was hoping this would solve the problem, but unfortunately GPL still hangs after the intro screen... Andre

On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 21:19:32 GMT, [email hidden] (Brett C. Cammack) wrote:

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>On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 20:28:31 GMT, Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> >wrote: >>Today I bought a V3 3000 AGP card, because GP3 didn't run on my V2 SLI >>cards. GP3 runs perfect now. >>BUT: When I start gpl, I get the starting screen with the gpl logo, >>and then the system freezes. I have to manually reset my pc after the >>freeze. > >You may wish to consider grabbing the D3D rasterizer from the Papyrus >site and running your V3 with it instead of the Glide rasterizer. >From what I've heard so far it's equivalent in performance and may >have some benefits, to boot.

Thanks Brett, I'll try that, let you know the results. Andre

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> >Worth a shot, anyway. > >Regards, >Brett C. Cammack >That's Racing! Motorsports >Pompano Beach, Fl

On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 21:19:32 GMT, [email hidden] (Brett C. Cammack) wrote:

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>On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 20:28:31 GMT, Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> >wrote: >>Today I bought a V3 3000 AGP card, because GP3 didn't run on my V2 SLI >>cards. GP3 runs perfect now. >>BUT: When I start gpl, I get the starting screen with the gpl logo, >>and then the system freezes. I have to manually reset my pc after the >>freeze. > >You may wish to consider grabbing the D3D rasterizer from the Papyrus >site and running your V3 with it instead of the Glide rasterizer. >From what I've heard so far it's equivalent in performance and may >have some benefits, to boot.

Brett, I tried it. After I installed the D3D patch, I started GPL. After 10 seconds still no menu screen, and I thought GPL had crashed again. In frustration I pressed ctrl-alt-delete a couple of times, and to my surprise I saw the menu screen. Seemd weird, but after a couple of restarts it turns out that GPL takes about 30 seconds now to show the menu screen, instead of the +/- 10 seconds it took with my V2 card. I started racing in training mode, looking good, 36 fps, allthough I liked the graphics in 3dfx better. The D3D graphics look a little bit jagged. Anyway, tried a race against AI, and the fps was not good. 24 fps at the start (had 26-27 with my V2 SLI) but after the start fps was between 30-33, while with my SLI the fps jumped to 36fps right after the start. Only when the other cars were away from me I had 36fps again. So clearly it's a Glide problem. I switched back to Glide an restarted GPL. After a minute, the menu screen appeared. I went to Graphics, but instead of 3dfx, None mode was selected. GPL can't start in Glide for some reason. BTW, maybe this is interesting, in the Graphics menu, I see this: 3DFX 3DFX NONE D3D Rendition So I have 3DFX 2 times in my list. If anyone has some suggestions, please help... Andre >Worth a shot, anyway. > >Regards, >Brett C. Cammack >That's Racing! Motorsports >Pompano Beach, Fl

If you are not certain you got all the registry entries for the v2, there is is a utility at the 3dfx gamers site named delv.inf. I think it is in the banshee faq. If the screen is going blank, it could also be a monitor refresh rate prob. In article <[email hidden]>, Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> wrote: > On Sun, 30 Jul 2000 02:17:27 GMT, Gollum <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Your problem is that you did not fully remove all traces of Glidefrom your > >system (from your old V2 setup). Depending on board manufacturer,many of > >their Utilities had a "Glide Sweep" option which would remove all old > >traces. > > > >I'd suggest removing all traces of the V2 and Glide from yoursystem, esp.

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> >the registry, then do a clean install of the V3. > > I manually removed all the old drivers and entries from the registry. > Then I reinstalled the V3 drivers and DX7 again. > Now GPL works again (!) but still in a strange way. > I start GPL, get the intro screen, then it seems to hang. > I have to press ctrl-alt-delete a couple of times, and after a minute > or so the menu screen appears. Then GPL works perfect (quite a fps > improvement, and the picture looks just better compared to the V2). > Tomorrow I'll do I clean install of Windows (yikes), clearly GPL is > still having problems with older V2 drivers. > > Thanks for the help all, > Andre >

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Your problem is that you did not fully remove all traces of Glide from your system (from your old V2 setup). Depending on board manufacturer, many of their Utilities had a "Glide Sweep" option which would remove all old traces. I'd suggest removing all traces of the V2 and Glide from your system, esp. the registry, then do a clean install of the V3. Andre Warringa wrote:

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> On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 21:19:32 GMT, [email hidden] (Brett C. > Cammack) wrote: > > >On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 20:28:31 GMT, Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> > >wrote: > >>Today I bought a V3 3000 AGP card, because GP3 didn't run on my V2 SLI > >>cards. GP3 runs perfect now. > >>BUT: When I start gpl, I get the starting screen with the gpl logo, > >>and then the system freezes. I have to manually reset my pc after the > >>freeze. > > > >You may wish to consider grabbing the D3D rasterizer from the Papyrus > >site and running your V3 with it instead of the Glide rasterizer. > >From what I've heard so far it's equivalent in performance and may > >have some benefits, to boot. > > Brett, I tried it. After I installed the D3D patch, I started GPL. > After 10 seconds still no menu screen, and I thought GPL had crashed > again. In frustration I pressed ctrl-alt-delete a couple of times, and > to my surprise I saw the menu screen. > > Seemd weird, but after a couple of restarts it turns out that GPL > takes about 30 seconds now to show the menu screen, instead of the +/- > 10 seconds it took with my V2 card. > I started racing in training mode, looking good, 36 fps, allthough I > liked the graphics in 3dfx better. The D3D graphics look a little bit > jagged. > > Anyway, tried a race against AI, and the fps was not good. > 24 fps at the start (had 26-27 with my V2 SLI) but after the start fps > was between 30-33, while with my SLI the fps jumped to 36fps right > after the start. Only when the other cars were away from me I had > 36fps again. > > So clearly it's a Glide problem. > I switched back to Glide an restarted GPL. After a minute, the menu > screen appeared. I went to Graphics, but instead of 3dfx, None mode > was selected. GPL can't start in Glide for some reason. > BTW, maybe this is interesting, in the Graphics menu, I see this: > > 3DFX > 3DFX > NONE > D3D > Rendition > > So I have 3DFX 2 times in my list. > > If anyone has some suggestions, please help... > > Andre > > >Worth a shot, anyway. > > > >Regards, > >Brett C. Cammack > >That's Racing! Motorsports > >Pompano Beach, Fl

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> > Today I bought a V3 3000 AGP card, because GP3 didn't run on my V2 SLI > cards. GP3 runs perfect now. > BUT: When I start gpl, I get the starting screen with the gpl logo, > and then the system freezes. I have to manually reset my pc after the > freeze. > > I have installed Dx70a, the latest 3dfx drivers (1.05.00), ofcourse > the GPL 1.2 patch, and I have disabled triple buffering. > I also reinstalled all of the above again tonight just to make sure. > > Any help please? > > Andre

Tried losing the V2's drivers from the GPL folder yet? -- Chuck Kandler Windows is just a virus with a GUI

On Sun, 30 Jul 2000 02:17:27 GMT, Gollum <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Your problem is that you did not fully remove all traces of Glide from your >system (from your old V2 setup). Depending on board manufacturer, many of >their Utilities had a "Glide Sweep" option which would remove all old >traces. > >I'd suggest removing all traces of the V2 and Glide from your system, esp. >the registry, then do a clean install of the V3.

I manually removed all the old drivers and entries from the registry. Then I reinstalled the V3 drivers and DX7 again. Now GPL works again (!) but still in a strange way. I start GPL, get the intro screen, then it seems to hang. I have to press ctrl-alt-delete a couple of times, and after a minute or so the menu screen appears. Then GPL works perfect (quite a fps improvement, and the picture looks just better compared to the V2). Tomorrow I'll do I clean install of Windows (yikes), clearly GPL is still having problems with older V2 drivers. Thanks for the help all, Andre

On Sun, 30 Jul 2000 03:41:00 GMT, Uncle Fester <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Andre Warringa wrote: >> >> Today I bought a V3 3000 AGP card, because GP3 didn't run on my V2 SLI >> cards. GP3 runs perfect now. >> BUT: When I start gpl, I get the starting screen with the gpl logo, >> and then the system freezes. I have to manually reset my pc after the >> freeze. >> >> I have installed Dx70a, the latest 3dfx drivers (1.05.00), ofcourse >> the GPL 1.2 patch, and I have disabled triple buffering. >> I also reinstalled all of the above again tonight just to make sure. >> >> Any help please? >> >> Andre > > > >Tried losing the V2's drivers from the GPL folder yet?

Which files are those? Only the glide2x.dll file? I deleted that one... Andre

On Sun, 30 Jul 2000 16:06:40 GMT, [email hidden] wrote: >If you are not certain you got all the registry entries for the v2, >there is is a utility at the 3dfx gamers site named delv.inf. I think >it is in the banshee faq. If the screen is going blank, it could also >be a monitor refresh rate prob. Thanks, I'll check it out, perhaps it saves me a fresh windows installation... Andre

On Sun, 30 Jul 2000 16:06:40 GMT, [email hidden] wrote: >If you are not certain you got all the registry entries for the v2, >there is is a utility at the 3dfx gamers site named delv.inf. I think >it is in the banshee faq. If the screen is going blank, it could also >be a monitor refresh rate prob. Unfortunately it doesn't work. It's reinstall Windows time... :) Andre