OT: I thought I was toast

Since I can't seem to neatly place a heatsink on a cpu with jussssst the right amount of artic silver gooey stuff on it, I have this obnoxiously hot chip. I tried a superfast 90mm fan but that mother was so loud I finally went back to the 60mm stock fan. ANd bought a small one-room air conditioner to try and keep the gameroom cool enough so that I could get by. That was all well and good til last night when a small trickle of condensated water leaked from the AC unit and dribbled down into the back of my 4 year old 19inch flat screen monitor. There was a bright vertical flash at the center of the screen and then all went black. I still had power, but no picture at all. As you can see...whew....I came back this morning and it fired up after drying out I guess. Time to re-arrange the room and get away from the leaky Air Conditioner.

"Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Since I can't seem to neatly place a heatsink on a cpu with jussssst the > right amount of artic silver gooey stuff on it, I have this obnoxiouslyhot > chip. I guess you realise this already but proper seating & the right amount of thermal paste (ie very little) makes quite a difference. For a year or so I put up with a hot CPU (around 50 C) assuming my Zalman flower cooler just wasn't as good as the noisy HSF it replaced. I recently had to remove the mobo, and after rebuilding the same PC it now runs at 37 C with the same ambient temperature. Malc.

In article <XDzfb.3340$[email hidden]>, Malc <[email hidden]> writes

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>"Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> Since I can't seem to neatly place a heatsink on a cpu with jussssst the >> right amount of artic silver gooey stuff on it, I have this obnoxiously >hot >> chip. > >I guess you realise this already but proper seating & the right amount of >thermal paste (ie very little) makes quite a difference. > >For a year or so I put up with a hot CPU (around 50 C) assuming my Zalman >flower cooler just wasn't as good as the noisy HSF it replaced. >I recently had to remove the mobo, and after rebuilding the same PC it now >runs at 37 C with the same ambient temperature. > >

As Malc said, the compound is only there to ensure that the whole cpu makes contact with heatsink. It is used because heatsinks for various reasons don't make contact with the cpu right across its surface. In theory, if they did, then you wouldn't need any compound at all. The compound is there to fill in the gaps where the heatsink doesn't touch the cpu so you don't need very much and using too much can actually have an adverse affect on cpu cooling. I would imagine though that, unless you have really made a mess of things with the compound that perhaps, as Malc also suggested, the heatsink isn't seating itself properly, ie. close enough to the cpu, in the first place. -- Peter Ives (AKA Pete Ivington) Remove ALL_STRESS before replying via email If you know what's good for you, don't listen to me :) GPLRank Joystick -50.63 Wheel -21.77

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> > "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Since I can't seem to neatly place a heatsink on a cpu with jussssst the > > right amount of artic silver gooey stuff on it, I have this obnoxiously > hot > > chip. > > I guess you realise this already but proper seating & the right amount of > thermal paste (ie very little) makes quite a difference. > > For a year or so I put up with a hot CPU (around 50 C) assuming my Zalman > flower cooler just wasn't as good as the noisy HSF it replaced. > I recently had to remove the mobo, and after rebuilding the same PC it now > runs at 37 C with the same ambient temperature.

It also depends on your MoBo, ASUS for instance reports higher CPU temps than most other boards Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

"Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > It also depends on your MoBo, ASUS for instance reports higher CPU temps > than most other boards I haven't had all that many mobo's with temp sensors, but I would guess that it's dependant on how far the sensor is from the bottom of the CPU. It may not just be dependant on make/design, it may differ from board to board too. Malc.

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> > Since I can't seem to neatly place a heatsink on a cpu with jussssst the > right amount of artic silver gooey stuff on it, I have this obnoxiously hot > chip. I tried a superfast 90mm fan but that mother was so loud I finally > went back to the 60mm stock fan. ANd bought a small one-room air > conditioner to try and keep the gameroom cool enough so that I could get > by. That was all well and good til last night when a small trickle of > condensated water leaked from the AC unit and dribbled down into the back > of my 4 year old 19inch flat screen monitor. > There was a bright vertical flash at the center of the screen and then > all went black. I still had power, but no picture at all. As you can > see...whew....I came back this morning and it fired up after drying out I > guess. Time to re-arrange the room and get away from the leaky Air > Conditioner.

Ouch.....lucky there Herr von Henrie, you should now by now that ze water should not be in ze computer Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

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> > "Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > It also depends on your MoBo, ASUS for instance reports higher CPU temps > > than most other boards > > I haven't had all that many mobo's with temp sensors, but I would guess that > it's dependant on how far the sensor is from the bottom of the CPU. It may > not just be dependant on make/design, it may differ from board to board too.

I'm sure you are correct about this, as for the ASUS boards it's by design as I believe they report core temps rather than surface temps, but I could be wrong about that bit Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

"Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > It also depends on your MoBo, ASUS for instance reports higher CPU temps > than most other boards Not my Asus P4B533. P4 1.8A runs at 34c, OC to 2.2ghz runs at 38c. That's pretty low for a cpu OC by 400mhz.

"Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I'm sure you are correct about this, as for the ASUS boards it's by > design as I believe they report core temps rather than surface temps, > but I could be wrong about that bit No, surface temp. Core temps are way higher than surface temps and the cpu would have to contain a sensor inside the core to report the core temp.

"Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Ouch.....lucky there Herr von Henrie, you should now by now that ze > water should not be in ze computer Yea, never let your wife/girlfriend stick a potted plant on top of your PC or monitor like they like to do with stereo speakers.

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> > "Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > It also depends on your MoBo, ASUS for instance reports higher CPU temps > > than most other boards > > Not my Asus P4B533. P4 1.8A runs at 34c, OC to 2.2ghz runs at 38c. That's > pretty low for a cpu OC by 400mhz.

Ah yes, I guess I should have pointed out that this only concerns AMD's, P4's have built in temp sensors and most MoBo's report roughly the same temps on those, my mistake Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

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> > "Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > I'm sure you are correct about this, as for the ASUS boards it's by > > design as I believe they report core temps rather than surface temps, > > but I could be wrong about that bit > > No, surface temp. Core temps are way higher than surface temps and the cpu > would have to contain a sensor inside the core to report the core temp.

Silly me, of course Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

Nothing, NOTHING beats a LaserPrinter full of Cat Pee... Larry "Replicant" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > "Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Ouch.....lucky there Herr von Henrie, you should now by now that ze > > water should not be in ze computer > > Yea, never let your wife/girlfriend stick a potted plant on top of your PC > or monitor like they like to do with stereo speakers. > >

"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:oPhgb.58448$a16.46627@lakeread01...

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> Nothing, NOTHING beats a LaserPrinter full of Cat Pee... > > Larry > > "Replicant" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > > "Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Ouch.....lucky there Herr von Henrie, you should now by now that ze > > > water should not be in ze computer > > > > Yea, never let your wife/girlfriend stick a potted plant on top of your

PC > > or monitor like they like to do with stereo speakers. > > The pee that our cat deposited into a VCR must have come very close... And btw, most insurance policies exclude damage caused by pets!

>The pee that our cat deposited into a VCR must have come very close... > >And btw, most insurance policies exclude damage caused by pets! That makes sense... Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Member Screamers Racing League IICC League GPLRank -2.4 MoGPL rank +302.38 ChallengeRank +54.48 MoC +743.77 Hist. +82.82 MoH in progress N2k3 rank:in progress Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.